Datacolor User to User Support Group.

Matthew Kraus
  I still need some help understanding how to use Spyder2Pro.  As I 
change the contrast(backlight brightness) control on my LCD monitor, is 
there a way to see the luminance values change in real time, or do I 
need to keep opening and checking the colorimeter with each adjustment?

Thanks,
Matthew Kraus

Thanks for the reply.  If you would please stay with me with this, I 
still don't quite get it.  After I select Backlight in the Identity 
Control window, it appears I have to select Measured as the Luminance 
Mode in order to have the option to put in my chosen White Luminance 
Value.  After I do this, I again confirm Backlight choice and procede 
with the calibration process, hoping to be able to adjust the monitor 
Luminance control while it is calibrating.  I do not see 
the "horizontal bar" you refer to.  Am I doing something wrong in my 
workflow to not see it or is there a technical glitch?
Thanks,
Matthew Kraus

--- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, CDTobie@... wrote:
>
> 
> In a message dated 1/13/08 11:40:45 AM, mkraus1044@... writes:
> 
> 
> >   I still need some help understanding how to use Spyder2Pro.  As 
I
> > change the contrast(backlight brightness) control on my LCD 
monitor, is
> > there a way to see the luminance values change in real time, or 
do I
> > need to keep opening and checking the colorimeter with each 
adjustment?
> > 
> 
> The colorimeter window is not part of the Assistant process. If you 
have the 
> necessary hardware controls, mark them in the software, choose a 
defined 
> luminance target, and calibrate, then during the process a 
horizontal bar will 
> appear, with your target value in the center. You then adjust your 
luminance until 
> the bar is as close as possible to the center (depending on the 
units of your 
> controls, exactly centered may not be possible). It sounds like you 
are not 
> getting this step in your process, which would tend to indicate you 
aren't 
> going through the right steps previously, or that there is some 
quirk in the 
> process on your system.
> 
> C. David Tobie
> Product Technology Manager
> Digital Imaging & Home Theater
> Datacolor Inc.
> CDTobie@...
> www.datacolor.com/spyder3
> 
> 
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--- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, "tech4x5" <mkraus1044@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the reply.  If you would please stay with me with this, I 
> still don't quite get it.  After I select Backlight in the Identity 
> Control window, it appears I have to select Measured as the Luminance 
> Mode in order to have the option to put in my chosen White Luminance 
> Value.  After I do this, I again confirm Backlight choice and procede 
> with the calibration process, hoping to be able to adjust the monitor 
> Luminance control while it is calibrating.  I do not see 
> the "horizontal bar" you refer to.  Am I doing something wrong in my 
> workflow to not see it or is there a technical glitch?
> Thanks,
> Matthew Kraus

After the first calibration run the software stops at this window (Mac) where White Luminance 
is adjusted via monitor's on-screen controls:

http://homepage.mac.com/johnvito/spyder_lum.png

Once White Luminance is corrected click "Continue" to finish the profile building process...

Thanks John,
     That's a great window and seems to have all the information I'd 
like ot see.  Unfortuately, I'm on Windows.  Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Matthew Kraus


--- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, "John Vitollo" <jvlist@...> 
wrote:
>
> --- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, "tech4x5" <mkraus1044@> 
wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the reply.  If you would please stay with me with 
this, I 
> > still don't quite get it.  After I select Backlight in the 
Identity 
> > Control window, it appears I have to select Measured as the 
Luminance 
> > Mode in order to have the option to put in my chosen White 
Luminance 
> > Value.  After I do this, I again confirm Backlight choice and 
procede 
> > with the calibration process, hoping to be able to adjust the 
monitor 
> > Luminance control while it is calibrating.  I do not see 
> > the "horizontal bar" you refer to.  Am I doing something wrong in 
my 
> > workflow to not see it or is there a technical glitch?
> > Thanks,
> > Matthew Kraus
> 
> After the first calibration run the software stops at this window 
(Mac) where White Luminance 
> is adjusted via monitor's on-screen controls:
> 
> http://homepage.mac.com/johnvito/spyder_lum.png
> 
> Once White Luminance is corrected click "Continue" to finish the 
profile building process...
>

--- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, "tech4x5" <mkraus1044@...> wrote:

> > http://homepage.mac.com/johnvito/spyder_lum.png
> Thanks John,
>      That's a great window and seems to have all the information I'd 
> like ot see.  Unfortuately, I'm on Windows.  Any suggestions?

Geez...other than getting a Mac...no! 8-} 

But seriously I don't know how different the Sypder2Pro interface is between Windows and 
Mac.

Are you waiting long enough after the first calibration process to have the White Luminance 
window appear as it takes awhile on slow computers.

--- Thanks again John.  My PC window isn't exactly like your Mac's, 
but I do see the 4 white squares for White Luminance.  What I don't 
see is a box to view real time changes in the White Luminance 
comparing the adjusted changes to ther target value as I change the 
monitor's brightness controls.  That's what I am missing.  

Matthew Kraus

In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, "John Vitollo" <jvlist@...> 
wrote:
>
> --- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, "tech4x5" <mkraus1044@> 
wrote:
> 
> > > http://homepage.mac.com/johnvito/spyder_lum.png
> > Thanks John,
> >      That's a great window and seems to have all the information 
I'd 
> > like ot see.  Unfortuately, I'm on Windows.  Any suggestions?
> 
> Geez...other than getting a Mac...no! 8-} 
> 
> But seriously I don't know how different the Sypder2Pro interface 
is between Windows and 
> Mac.
> 
> Are you waiting long enough after the first calibration process to 
have the White Luminance 
> window appear as it takes awhile on slow computers.
>

--- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, "tech4x5" <mkraus1044@...> wrote:
>
> --- Thanks again John.  My PC window isn't exactly like your Mac's, 
> but I do see the 4 white squares for White Luminance.  What I don't 
> see is a box to view real time changes in the White Luminance 
> comparing the adjusted changes to ther target value as I change the 
> monitor's brightness controls.  That's what I am missing.  
> 
> Matthew Kraus

Did you contact Colorvision support directly...that's your best bet? 

 http://support.colorvision.ch/index.php?_m=tickets&_a=submit

--- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, "tech4x5" <mkraus1044@...> wrote:
>
> --- Thanks again John.  My PC window isn't exactly like your Mac's, 
> but I do see the 4 white squares for White Luminance.  

What you are seeing might be a different "White Luminance" window earlier on in the 
process. There's 4 white squares also in the "Set White Luminance" window...but this window 
is only few steps in from the beginning of the process, (even before the Spyder is attached to 
the screen). Is that what your are seeing? 

Did you run the Spyder at all?

--- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, "tech4x5" <mkraus1044@...> wrote:
>
> --- Thanks again John.  My PC window isn't exactly like your Mac's, 
> but I do see the 4 white squares for White Luminance.  What I don't 
> see is a box to view real time changes in the White Luminance 
> comparing the adjusted changes to ther target value as I change the 
> monitor's brightness controls.  That's what I am missing.  

After some thinking....

Maybe you are stuck on this first "White Luminance" window expecting to adjust the 
brightness with the Spyder? It's not here where you use the Spyder this window is telling you 
to adjust the monitor to full brightness via the monitor's controls.

If so skip this window and go on to the profiling process where the software will ask you to 
attach the Spyder to the monitor. In mid test another "White Luminance" window will open 
and it's here where you adjust the brightness/backlight of the monitor while measuring with 
the Spyder.

--- John...Thank you, thank you thank you!  In following your further 
instructions, I finally found the elusive window.  It just goes to 
show you, "after some more thinking" sometimes pays off.  Thanks 
again.

Matthew Kraus

In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, "John Vitollo" <jvlist@...> 
wrote:
>
> --- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, "tech4x5" <mkraus1044@> 
wrote:
> >
> > --- Thanks again John.  My PC window isn't exactly like your 
Mac's, 
> > but I do see the 4 white squares for White Luminance.  What I 
don't 
> > see is a box to view real time changes in the White Luminance 
> > comparing the adjusted changes to ther target value as I change 
the 
> > monitor's brightness controls.  That's what I am missing.  
> 
> After some thinking....
> 
> Maybe you are stuck on this first "White Luminance" window 
expecting to adjust the 
> brightness with the Spyder? It's not here where you use the Spyder 
this window is telling you 
> to adjust the monitor to full brightness via the monitor's controls.
> 
> If so skip this window and go on to the profiling process where the 
software will ask you to 
> attach the Spyder to the monitor. In mid test another "White 
Luminance" window will open 
> and it's here where you adjust the brightness/backlight of the 
monitor while measuring with 
> the Spyder.
>

--- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, "tech4x5" <mkraus1044@...> wrote:
>
> --- John...Thank you, thank you thank you!  In following your further 
> instructions, I finally found the elusive window.  It just goes to 
> show you, "after some more thinking" sometimes pays off.  Thanks 
> again.

You are welcome...but please read the manual and help files.

Thanks everyone for your input.  I think I've finally got it and it's 
working as I'd hoped.  If I have any more problems, I'll repost.

Thanks,
Matthew Kraus

--- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, CDTobie@... wrote:
>
> 
> In a message dated 1/14/08 4:07:29 PM, mkraus1044@... writes:
> 
> 
> >      That's a great window and seems to have all the information 
I'd
> > like ot see.  Unfortuately, I'm on Windows.  Any suggestions?
> > 
> 
> First, make sure you are using the latest version of the software. 
Then, put 
> in a support ticket to colorvision.com, noting "Attention: Dana" in 
the 
> subject line. Include all your system info, your software version, 
and see what they 
> can do for you.
> 
> C. David Tobie
> Product Technology Manager
> Digital Imaging & Home Theater
> Datacolor
> CDTobie@...
> www.datacolor.com/Spyder3
> 
> 
> **************
> Start the year off right.  Easy ways 
> to stay in shape.
>      
> http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?
NCID=aolcmp00300000002489
>