Datacolor User to User Support Group.

>
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> Quick question regarding monitor calibration with a Spyder3 Elite. I have realised that there are some colour settings within my graphics card settings which can be used to change the gamma, brightness and contrast. My configuration is:
> 
> Dell 2709W
> Windows XP
> ATI Radeon X800 XT
> 
> Can someone please advise what if anything I should do to these settings before I start calibrating the monitor? The default settings are:
> 
> Gamma: 1.0 (scale = 0.5 to 3.50
> Brightness: 0 (scale = -100 to 100)
> Contrast: 100 (scale = 0 to 200)
> 
> Also, on the Dell 2709W OSD panel there are contrast and brightness settings. I believe the brightness should be turned right down to near zero (in order to try and get the luminance down to the desired 100-120 cd/m2) but how should the contrast be changed? I believe the factory default is to place it at the maximum value of 100.
> 
> Any advice appreciated.
> 
> Rgds
> Rick
>

>
> unfortunately the ati utility is the only way i've found to signal to allow
> for a portrait rather than landscape setting for my second monitor.
> 
> i've found no place within vista to configure that otherwise.
> 
> i've got no other use for the ati utility so if anyone has ideas i'd love to
> hear them. i don't mess with any of the ati settings otherwise.
> 
> tnx
> jtm
>

>
> 
> On May 31, 2009, at 12:26 PM, Jim Miller wrote:
> 
> > unfortunately the ati utility is the only way i've found to signal  
> > to allow for a portrait rather than landscape setting for my second  
> > monitor.
> 
> Yes, this is where people get stuck, there is some special feature  
> (resolution, portrait option, gaming mode) that they want from the  
> graphics card utility, but they also what color management. With some  
> configurations, both are not possible at once.
> 
> C. David Tobie
> Global Product Technology Manager
> Digital Imaging & Home Theater
> CDTobie@...
> 
> 
> 
> Datacolor
> www.datacolor.com/Spyder3
>

>
> yes, we often have the main monitor in a "normal" landscape orientation and
> the second monitor in a portrait orientation.
> 
> the ati utility is the only place i've found to do this.
> 
> tnx
> jtm
>

>
> the monitors are both dell 2408wfp. the software provided and preloaded is
> the ati software. i've not found any problems so far with having the ati
> software loaded and achieving a good profile.
> 
> i've yet to dive into profiling my hp9180 printer on vista64. the prints
> from it are consistently shifted slightly to the red as they were in winxp.
> more work to do there.
> 
> the reason for asking about alternatives for rotating the screen were to
> avoid having the ati utility loaded at all.
> 
> the 2408wfp has no sensor for an "autorotate" feature. perhaps i should
> google around for a piece of software which has rotation only as a feature.
> digging around in the ati utility when we want to rotate the screen is a
> pain.
> 
> tnx
> jtm
>

>
> just discovered that winv7 will have native support for monitor rotation!
> 
> woohoo!
> 
> jtm
>

>
> 
> On May 31, 2009, at 10:31 AM, rickbehl wrote:
> 
> > Quick question regarding monitor calibration with a Spyder3 Elite. I  
> > have realised that there are some colour settings within my graphics  
> > card settings which can be used to change the gamma, brightness and  
> > contrast. My configuration is:
> >
> > Dell 2709W
> > Windows XP
> > ATI Radeon X800 XT
> >
> > Can someone please advise what if anything I should do to these  
> > settings before I start calibrating the monitor?
> 
> Absolutely nothing. In fact, if you have a videocard utility loaded,  
> unload it. The problem is that videocard companies tend to forget that  
> the LUTs in the card are used for color management purposes, and offer  
> tools for making adjustments to the LUTs; which trashes the LUT data  
> that the color management software has place in the VLUTs... So stay  
> as far away from such tools and functions as possible, if you are  
> color managing your displays!
> 
> C. David Tobie
> Global Product Technology Manager
> Digital Imaging & Home Theater
> CDTobie@...
> 
> 
> 
> Datacolor
> www.datacolor.com/Spyder3
>

> 
> Thanks again,
> Rick
> 
> --- In datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com, C D Tobie <CDTobie@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > On May 31, 2009, at 10:31 AM, rickbehl wrote:
> > 
> > > Quick question regarding monitor calibration with a Spyder3 Elite. I  
> > > have realised that there are some colour settings within my graphics  
> > > card settings which can be used to change the gamma, brightness and  
> > > contrast. My configuration is:
> > >
> > > Dell 2709W
> > > Windows XP
> > > ATI Radeon X800 XT
> > >
> > > Can someone please advise what if anything I should do to these  
> > > settings before I start calibrating the monitor?
> > 
> > Absolutely nothing. In fact, if you have a videocard utility loaded,  
> > unload it. The problem is that videocard companies tend to forget that  
> > the LUTs in the card are used for color management purposes, and offer  
> > tools for making adjustments to the LUTs; which trashes the LUT data  
> > that the color management software has place in the VLUTs... So stay  
> > as far away from such tools and functions as possible, if you are  
> > color managing your displays!
> > 
> > C. David Tobie
> > Global Product Technology Manager
> > Digital Imaging & Home Theater
> > CDTobie@
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Datacolor
> > www.datacolor.com/Spyder3
> >
>

>
> --- In datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com, "rickbehl" <RickBehl@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi CDTobie,
> > 
> > Thanks for the reply. 
> > 
> > Questions though:
> > 
> > 1) Will unloading the ATI Catalyst Control Center cause any other issues I should know about before I do that?
> 
> It did not for me in my scenario.
> 
> > 2) I was using the ATI CCC software to lower the general brightness as otherwise even with the Dell 2709W set at Zero brightness on the OSD I still cannot achieve a luminance lower than 120-130cd/m2. If I remove the software what can I do to lower this?
> > 3) What are the guidelines for the settings for the contrast on this wide gamut monitor as the factory default is to max it out at 100?
> 
> I just did a Dell ultrasharp and just reset it to factory specs and it did great.  My Viewsonic on the other hand I believe I started it at a 50% reduction in the OSD.
> 
> 
> 
> > 4) I am also using the ATI software to manage the configuration for a dual screen setup (primary = Dell 2709W, 2nd = Dell 1709FP). Can I still do this without the ATI software?
> 
> 
> I was originally using the Microsoft Color Control applet, but realized that it was not necessary since the datacolor Spyder 3 software discovers the second monitor.  Once you go under settings and extend your monitor to the second, Datacolor will create a profile for each.
> 
> Having said this, this is in XP and if you have Vista, well I dont know!
> 
> 
> > 
> > Thanks again,
> > Rick
> > 
> > --- In datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com, C D Tobie <CDTobie@> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > On May 31, 2009, at 10:31 AM, rickbehl wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Quick question regarding monitor calibration with a Spyder3 Elite. I  
> > > > have realised that there are some colour settings within my graphics  
> > > > card settings which can be used to change the gamma, brightness and  
> > > > contrast. My configuration is:
> > > >
> > > > Dell 2709W
> > > > Windows XP
> > > > ATI Radeon X800 XT
> > > >
> > > > Can someone please advise what if anything I should do to these  
> > > > settings before I start calibrating the monitor?
> > > 
> > > Absolutely nothing. In fact, if you have a videocard utility loaded,  
> > > unload it. The problem is that videocard companies tend to forget that  
> > > the LUTs in the card are used for color management purposes, and offer  
> > > tools for making adjustments to the LUTs; which trashes the LUT data  
> > > that the color management software has place in the VLUTs... So stay  
> > > as far away from such tools and functions as possible, if you are  
> > > color managing your displays!
> > > 
> > > C. David Tobie
> > > Global Product Technology Manager
> > > Digital Imaging & Home Theater
> > > CDTobie@
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Datacolor
> > > www.datacolor.com/Spyder3
> > >
> >
>