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2002-01-10 by waimanliu2001
Does anybody know how to read the disklavier disk in the computer ? I try the utility that post in 'file' session before, but it is not success, the computer cannot regconize the diskette. my piano is MX100, I want to save the midi in disk and play those song in my piano, but i does not success..... Thanks a lot
2002-01-10 by Carol Beigel
You can't put a Yamaha disk into your computer and have it read. But you can use the dkcopy utility and make a COPY of your disk that the computer CAN read. Because your Disklavier is an MX100, it will only see 2DD disks and not 2HD floppies. Buy 2DD floppies from www.shoplet.com or tape over the bottom right hole of a 2HD diskette and format it as a 720k disk. Also, you will have to convert all MIDI files to ESEQ files for your Disklavier to play them. Remember, the dkcopy utility only works when you reboot your computer in DOS. Carol Beigel >From: "waimanliu2001" <waimanliu@...> >Reply-To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com >To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [disklavier] Read the disklavier disk in computer >Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 04:35:13 -0000 > >Does anybody know how to read the disklavier disk in the computer ? I >try the utility that post in 'file' session before, but it is not >success, the computer cannot regconize the diskette. >my piano is MX100, I want to save the midi in disk and play those >song in my piano, but i does not success..... > >Thanks a lot > > _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
2002-01-10 by waimanliu2001
Thank you Carol, so if I want to 1:1 copy my yamaha disc, I must do it in pure DOS mode with DKcopy utility? but how can I read the disc content? because I try to use eseq explorer, but the system said the disk cannot recognize. (I use the program under windows2000). so how can I put the eseq to the disk. --- In disklavier@y..., "Carol Beigel" <carolrpt@h...> wrote: > You can't put a Yamaha disk into your computer and have it read. But you > can use the dkcopy utility and make a COPY of your disk that the computer > CAN read. Because your Disklavier is an MX100, it will only see 2DD disks > and not 2HD floppies. Buy 2DD floppies from www.shoplet.com or tape over > the bottom right hole of a 2HD diskette and format it as a 720k disk. Also, > you will have to convert all MIDI files to ESEQ files for your Disklavier to > play them. > > Remember, the dkcopy utility only works when you reboot your computer in > DOS. > > Carol Beigel > > > >From: "waimanliu2001" <waimanliu@h...> > >Reply-To: disklavier@y... > >To: disklavier@y... > >Subject: [disklavier] Read the disklavier disk in computer > >Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 04:35:13 -0000 > > > >Does anybody know how to read the disklavier disk in the computer ? I > >try the utility that post in 'file' session before, but it is not > >success, the computer cannot regconize the diskette. > >my piano is MX100, I want to save the midi in disk and play those > >song in my piano, but i does not success..... > > > >Thanks a lot > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
2002-01-10 by Carol Beigel
The reason your computer won't see the Yamaha disk is something to do with the boot sector or whatever it is the computer looks for when it first sees a disk. The copy utility fixes that on the COPY of the disk. First, format a blank 720k disk in your computer. Then reboot into DOS mode. Start the dkvcopy utility and follow the instructions. Make sure you write protect your Yamaha disk so you don't accidently overwrite it! Make sure your Yamaha disk plays in your Disklavier - sometimes they go bad so the copy won't work either. Your computer will be able to see the COPY. You will see files with the extension .fil These are ESEQ files. You must use 720 disks. These 2DD disks only have one square hole; 2HD disks have 2 holes. Sometimes it does not work using the 1.4 disks and taping the bottom right hole. The particles on these higher density disks are much finer that the 720 disks. The heads that read 720 k disks are bigger than the heads that read 1.4 disks. If you want to put MIDI files onto a disk so your DKV will play them, first convert them to ESEQ files. Format a 720k disk and copy the new ESEQ files to it. Use the explorer program per directions. This should work! Carol Beigel >From: "waimanliu2001" <waimanliu@...> >Reply-To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com >To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [disklavier] Re: Read the disklavier disk in computer >Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 06:37:37 -0000 > >Thank you Carol, so if I want to 1:1 copy my yamaha disc, I must do >it in pure DOS mode with DKcopy utility? but how can I read the disc >content? because I try to use eseq explorer, but the system said the >disk cannot recognize. (I use the program under windows2000). so how >can I put the eseq to the disk. > >--- In disklavier@y..., "Carol Beigel" <carolrpt@h...> wrote: > > You can't put a Yamaha disk into your computer and have it read. >But you > > can use the dkcopy utility and make a COPY of your disk that the >computer > > CAN read. Because your Disklavier is an MX100, it will only see >2DD disks > > and not 2HD floppies. Buy 2DD floppies from www.shoplet.com or >tape over > > the bottom right hole of a 2HD diskette and format it as a 720k >disk. Also, > > you will have to convert all MIDI files to ESEQ files for your >Disklavier to > > play them. > > > > Remember, the dkcopy utility only works when you reboot your >computer in > > DOS. > > > > Carol Beigel > > > > > > >From: "waimanliu2001" <waimanliu@h...> > > >Reply-To: disklavier@y... > > >To: disklavier@y... > > >Subject: [disklavier] Read the disklavier disk in computer > > >Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 04:35:13 -0000 > > > > > >Does anybody know how to read the disklavier disk in the >computer ? I > > >try the utility that post in 'file' session before, but it is not > > >success, the computer cannot regconize the diskette. > > >my piano is MX100, I want to save the midi in disk and play those > > >song in my piano, but i does not success..... > > > > > >Thanks a lot > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: >http://messenger.msn.com > _________________________________________________________________ Join the world\ufffds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
2002-01-10 by Carol Beigel
I am told that Windows 2000 does not come with DOS. That is probably your problem as the DKV utilities, and the Giebler software only work in DOS. I use an old 386 Toshiba laptop with only a 80 mg hard drive and Windows 3.1 to make disks and copies of disks for my DKV. You can get these really cheaply now! Carol Beigel >From: "waimanliu2001" <waimanliu@...> >Reply-To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com >To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [disklavier] Re: Read the disklavier disk in computer >Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 06:37:37 -0000 > >Thank you Carol, so if I want to 1:1 copy my yamaha disc, I must do >it in pure DOS mode with DKcopy utility? but how can I read the disc >content? because I try to use eseq explorer, but the system said the >disk cannot recognize. (I use the program under windows2000). so how >can I put the eseq to the disk. > >--- In disklavier@y..., "Carol Beigel" <carolrpt@h...> wrote: > > You can't put a Yamaha disk into your computer and have it read. >But you > > can use the dkcopy utility and make a COPY of your disk that the >computer > > CAN read. Because your Disklavier is an MX100, it will only see >2DD disks > > and not 2HD floppies. Buy 2DD floppies from www.shoplet.com or >tape over > > the bottom right hole of a 2HD diskette and format it as a 720k >disk. Also, > > you will have to convert all MIDI files to ESEQ files for your >Disklavier to > > play them. > > > > Remember, the dkcopy utility only works when you reboot your >computer in > > DOS. > > > > Carol Beigel > > > > > > >From: "waimanliu2001" <waimanliu@h...> > > >Reply-To: disklavier@y... > > >To: disklavier@y... > > >Subject: [disklavier] Read the disklavier disk in computer > > >Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 04:35:13 -0000 > > > > > >Does anybody know how to read the disklavier disk in the >computer ? I > > >try the utility that post in 'file' session before, but it is not > > >success, the computer cannot regconize the diskette. > > >my piano is MX100, I want to save the midi in disk and play those > > >song in my piano, but i does not success..... > > > > > >Thanks a lot > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: >http://messenger.msn.com > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.
2002-01-10 by waimanliu2001
I see, thanks Carol, Thanks a lot... --- In disklavier@y..., "Carol Beigel" <carolrpt@h...> wrote: > > I am told that Windows 2000 does not come with DOS. That is probably your > problem as the DKV utilities, and the Giebler software only work in DOS. I > use an old 386 Toshiba laptop with only a 80 mg hard drive and Windows 3.1 > to make disks and copies of disks for my DKV. You can get these really > cheaply now! > > Carol Beigel > > >From: "waimanliu2001" <waimanliu@h...> > >Reply-To: disklavier@y... > >To: disklavier@y... > >Subject: [disklavier] Re: Read the disklavier disk in computer > >Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 06:37:37 -0000 > > > >Thank you Carol, so if I want to 1:1 copy my yamaha disc, I must do > >it in pure DOS mode with DKcopy utility? but how can I read the disc > >content? because I try to use eseq explorer, but the system said the > >disk cannot recognize. (I use the program under windows2000). so how > >can I put the eseq to the disk. > > > >--- In disklavier@y..., "Carol Beigel" <carolrpt@h...> wrote: > > > You can't put a Yamaha disk into your computer and have it read. > >But you > > > can use the dkcopy utility and make a COPY of your disk that the > >computer > > > CAN read. Because your Disklavier is an MX100, it will only see > >2DD disks > > > and not 2HD floppies. Buy 2DD floppies from www.shoplet.com or > >tape over > > > the bottom right hole of a 2HD diskette and format it as a 720k > >disk. Also, > > > you will have to convert all MIDI files to ESEQ files for your > >Disklavier to > > > play them. > > > > > > Remember, the dkcopy utility only works when you reboot your > >computer in > > > DOS. > > > > > > Carol Beigel > > > > > > > > > >From: "waimanliu2001" <waimanliu@h...> > > > >Reply-To: disklavier@y... > > > >To: disklavier@y... > > > >Subject: [disklavier] Read the disklavier disk in computer > > > >Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 04:35:13 -0000 > > > > > > > >Does anybody know how to read the disklavier disk in the > >computer ? I > > > >try the utility that post in 'file' session before, but it is not > > > >success, the computer cannot regconize the diskette. > > > >my piano is MX100, I want to save the midi in disk and play those > > > >song in my piano, but i does not success..... > > > > > > > >Thanks a lot > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: > >http://messenger.msn.com > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.
2002-01-10 by Sam Ho
Hi Carol, I have a Disklavier MPX 100 II. Do you know if it supports midi file ? If it does, how to copy midi files from PC to the diskette ? I have been using the Eexplore & Mid2eseq software to convert midi to ESEQ and copy to the floppy. Thanks & regards, Sammy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Beigel" <carolrpt@...> To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [disklavier] Read the disklavier disk in computer > You can't put a Yamaha disk into your computer and have it read. But you > can use the dkcopy utility and make a COPY of your disk that the computer > CAN read. Because your Disklavier is an MX100, it will only see 2DD disks > and not 2HD floppies. Buy 2DD floppies from www.shoplet.com or tape over > the bottom right hole of a 2HD diskette and format it as a 720k disk. Also, > you will have to convert all MIDI files to ESEQ files for your Disklavier to > play them. > > Remember, the dkcopy utility only works when you reboot your computer in > DOS. > > Carol Beigel > > > >From: "waimanliu2001" <waimanliu@...> > >Reply-To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > >To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > >Subject: [disklavier] Read the disklavier disk in computer > >Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 04:35:13 -0000 > > > >Does anybody know how to read the disklavier disk in the computer ? I > >try the utility that post in 'file' session before, but it is not > >success, the computer cannot regconize the diskette. > >my piano is MX100, I want to save the midi in disk and play those > >song in my piano, but i does not success..... > > > >Thanks a lot > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > > To Post a message to the group, send it to: disklavier@... > > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and moderator, send it to: > disklavier-owner@... > > To reach our group's web site go to: > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier > > Todd's family web site was completely rewritten in June 2001 and contains some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among other things, The url is: > http://MuncyFamily.com > > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP? > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail, go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead. That will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group. If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to:
> disklavier-unsubscribe@... > > Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a blank email to: > disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this link: > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >
2002-01-10 by Carol Beigel
Your MPX100II is the same piano as the MX100II except that is has the Silent feature. It only supports MIDI format 0 files (as well as ESEQ)and 2DD disks. Most of the MIDI files you find on the internet are MIDI format 1 files, so you will have to convert them to MIDI format 0 before you can use them. All you need to do is format a 2DD disk (720 k,one hole) in IBM format on your computer. Just drag and drop the MIDI format 0 files onto the disk and you should be good to go. Carol Beigel >From: "Sam Ho" <sammyho@...> >Reply-To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com >To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> >Subject: Re: [disklavier] Read the disklavier disk in computer >Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:46:30 +0800 > >Hi Carol, > >I have a Disklavier MPX 100 II. Do you know if it supports midi file ? If >it >does, how to copy midi files from PC to the diskette ? I have been using >the >Eexplore & Mid2eseq software to convert midi to ESEQ and copy to the >floppy. > >Thanks & regards, > >Sammy > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Carol Beigel" <carolrpt@...> >To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 2:26 PM >Subject: Re: [disklavier] Read the disklavier disk in computer > > > > You can't put a Yamaha disk into your computer and have it read. But >you > > can use the dkcopy utility and make a COPY of your disk that the >computer > > CAN read. Because your Disklavier is an MX100, it will only see 2DD >disks > > and not 2HD floppies. Buy 2DD floppies from www.shoplet.com or tape >over > > the bottom right hole of a 2HD diskette and format it as a 720k disk. >Also, > > you will have to convert all MIDI files to ESEQ files for your >Disklavier >to > > play them. > > > > Remember, the dkcopy utility only works when you reboot your computer in > > DOS. > > > > Carol Beigel > > > > > > >From: "waimanliu2001" <waimanliu@...> > > >Reply-To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > > >To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > > >Subject: [disklavier] Read the disklavier disk in computer > > >Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 04:35:13 -0000 > > > > > >Does anybody know how to read the disklavier disk in the computer ? I > > >try the utility that post in 'file' session before, but it is not > > >success, the computer cannot regconize the diskette. > > >my piano is MX100, I want to save the midi in disk and play those > > >song in my piano, but i does not success..... > > > > > >Thanks a lot > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > > > > > > To Post a message to the group, send it to: disklavier@... > > > > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and >moderator, send it to: > > disklavier-owner@... > > > > To reach our group's web site go to: > > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier > > > > Todd's family web site was completely rewritten in June 2001 and >contains >some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among other things, The >url is: > > http://MuncyFamily.com > > > > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP? > > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much >mail, >go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead. That >will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group. If you >insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to: > > disklavier-unsubscribe@... > > > > Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a blank email to: > > disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this link: > > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to >http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Join the world\ufffds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
2002-01-10 by Sam Ho
Thank you Carol for your prompt response. Please advise how to tell whether a midi file is format 0 or 1. Is there a software that can show the file format and how to convert from Midi 1 to 0 ? Many thanks. Sammy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Beigel" <carolrpt@...> To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 12:16 AM Subject: Re: [disklavier] Read the disklavier disk in computer > Your MPX100II is the same piano as the MX100II except that is has the Silent > feature. It only supports MIDI format 0 files (as well as ESEQ)and 2DD > disks. Most of the MIDI files you find on the internet are MIDI format 1 > files, so you will have to convert them to MIDI format 0 before you can use > them. > > All you need to do is format a 2DD disk (720 k,one hole) in IBM format on > your computer. Just drag and drop the MIDI format 0 files onto the disk and > you should be good to go. > > Carol Beigel > > > >From: "Sam Ho" <sammyho@...> > >Reply-To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > >To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> > >Subject: Re: [disklavier] Read the disklavier disk in computer > >Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:46:30 +0800 > > > >Hi Carol, > > > >I have a Disklavier MPX 100 II. Do you know if it supports midi file ? If > >it > >does, how to copy midi files from PC to the diskette ? I have been using > >the > >Eexplore & Mid2eseq software to convert midi to ESEQ and copy to the > >floppy. > > > >Thanks & regards, > > > >Sammy > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Carol Beigel" <carolrpt@...> > >To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> > >Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 2:26 PM > >Subject: Re: [disklavier] Read the disklavier disk in computer > > > > > > > You can't put a Yamaha disk into your computer and have it read. But > >you > > > can use the dkcopy utility and make a COPY of your disk that the > >computer > > > CAN read. Because your Disklavier is an MX100, it will only see 2DD > >disks > > > and not 2HD floppies. Buy 2DD floppies from www.shoplet.com or tape > >over > > > the bottom right hole of a 2HD diskette and format it as a 720k disk. > >Also, > > > you will have to convert all MIDI files to ESEQ files for your > >Disklavier > >to > > > play them. > > > > > > Remember, the dkcopy utility only works when you reboot your computer in > > > DOS. > > > > > > Carol Beigel > > > > > > > > > >From: "waimanliu2001" <waimanliu@...> > > > >Reply-To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > > > >To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > > > >Subject: [disklavier] Read the disklavier disk in computer > > > >Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 04:35:13 -0000 > > > > > > > >Does anybody know how to read the disklavier disk in the computer ? I > > > >try the utility that post in 'file' session before, but it is not > > > >success, the computer cannot regconize the diskette. > > > >my piano is MX100, I want to save the midi in disk and play those > > > >song in my piano, but i does not success..... > > > > > > > >Thanks a lot > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > > > > > > > > > > To Post a message to the group, send it to: disklavier@... > > > > > > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and > >moderator, send it to: > > > disklavier-owner@... > > > > > > To reach our group's web site go to: > > > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier > > > > > > Todd's family web site was completely rewritten in June 2001 and > >contains > >some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among other things, The > >url is: > > > http://MuncyFamily.com > > > > > > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP? > > > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much > >mail, > >go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead. That > >will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group. If you > >insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to: > > > disklavier-unsubscribe@... > > > > > > Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a blank email to: > > > disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this link: > > > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > >http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > To Post a message to the group, send it to: disklavier@... > > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and moderator, send it to: > disklavier-owner@... > > To reach our group's web site go to: > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier > > Todd's family web site was completely rewritten in June 2001 and contains some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among other things, The url is: > http://MuncyFamily.com > > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP? > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail, go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead. That will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group. If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to:
> disklavier-unsubscribe@... > > Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a blank email to: > disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this link: > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >
2002-01-10 by PianoBench@aol.com
Good morning everyone, In a message dated 1/10/02 11:21:24 AM, Carol writes: << Your MPX100II is the same piano as the MX100II except that is has the Silent feature. It only supports MIDI format 0 files (as well as ESEQ)and 2DD disks. Most of the MIDI files you find on the internet are MIDI format 1 files, so you will have to convert them to MIDI format 0 before you can use them. All you need to do is format a 2DD disk (720 k,one hole) in IBM format on your computer. Just drag and drop the MIDI format 0 files onto the disk and you should be good to go. >> This is an excellent explanation. Let me add that you should avoid putting anything on the disk other than Type 0 SMFs. Note, also, that the earliest Mark II Disklaviers have ROM chips that need updating in order to play these SMFs. I suggest that you try a properly configured disk to see if this works. If it does not, we may need to determine the version of the ROM chip. Note, further, that you do not have full use of the various transport contr ols on the Disklavier or remote when playing SMFs on a Mark II. For example, the search function does not work for SMFs. In other words, support for SMFs is not really complete. Another solution--and a much better one in my opinion--is to have the offical Mark II-->Mark IIXG upgrade installed. This will give you full support for both SMF Types 0 and 1, high density disks, and a tone generator (which is need for so many of the files that you encounter). A complete upgrade will involve removal of the upper panel of the instrument in which the control unit is housed, removal of the control unit, installation of a new panel that has no control unit built in, and new control unit that either sits on top or that can be mounted beneath the keys. Regards, PianoBench
2002-01-10 by Carol Beigel
Sometimes the file will say: Song(1).mid which is a MIDI 1 format. All PianoDisc songs are MIDI 0 files. A MIDI sequencer program like Cakewalk HOme Studio, or ProAudio Tracks will also tell you what format the MIDI file is in. Standard MIDI Format 0 (SMF-0) assembles all MIDI data on a single track, allowing playback on even the simplest of sequencers or playback devices. This format also offers the greatest compatibility. Standard MIDI Format 1 (SMF-1) is capable of handling multiple tracks, and is designed to work best with sequencers that allow different parts to be recorded and played back on different tracks - essential for editing and modifying data as well as simple playback. ESEQ is a Yamaha proprietary format for Disklaviers. All the files on genuine Yamaha PianoSoft disks are their proprietary E-SEQ format and usually have the extension .fil This is the ONLY file format that can be played on the MX100A/B, DGP and MX80 Disklaviers. Carol Beigel >From: "Sam Ho" <sammyho@...> >Reply-To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com >To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> >Subject: Re: [disklavier] Read the disklavier disk in computer >Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 00:26:41 +0800 > >Thank you Carol for your prompt response. > >Please advise how to tell whether a midi file is format 0 or 1. Is there a >software that can show the file format and how to convert from Midi 1 to 0 >? > >Many thanks. > >Sammy > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Carol Beigel" <carolrpt@...> >To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 12:16 AM >Subject: Re: [disklavier] Read the disklavier disk in computer > > > > Your MPX100II is the same piano as the MX100II except that is has the >Silent > > feature. It only supports MIDI format 0 files (as well as ESEQ)and 2DD > > disks. Most of the MIDI files you find on the internet are MIDI format >1 > > files, so you will have to convert them to MIDI format 0 before you can >use > > them. > > > > All you need to do is format a 2DD disk (720 k,one hole) in IBM format >on > > your computer. Just drag and drop the MIDI format 0 files onto the disk >and > > you should be good to go. > > > > Carol Beigel > > > > > > >From: "Sam Ho" <sammyho@...> > > >Reply-To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > > >To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> > > >Subject: Re: [disklavier] Read the disklavier disk in computer > > >Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:46:30 +0800 > > > > > >Hi Carol, > > > > > >I have a Disklavier MPX 100 II. Do you know if it supports midi file ? >If > > >it > > >does, how to copy midi files from PC to the diskette ? I have been >using > > >the > > >Eexplore & Mid2eseq software to convert midi to ESEQ and copy to the > > >floppy. > > > > > >Thanks & regards, > > > > > >Sammy > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Carol Beigel" <carolrpt@...> > > >To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> > > >Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 2:26 PM > > >Subject: Re: [disklavier] Read the disklavier disk in computer > > > > > > > > > > You can't put a Yamaha disk into your computer and have it read. >But > > >you > > > > can use the dkcopy utility and make a COPY of your disk that the > > >computer > > > > CAN read. Because your Disklavier is an MX100, it will only see 2DD > > >disks > > > > and not 2HD floppies. Buy 2DD floppies from www.shoplet.com or tape > > >over > > > > the bottom right hole of a 2HD diskette and format it as a 720k >disk. > > >Also, > > > > you will have to convert all MIDI files to ESEQ files for your > > >Disklavier > > >to > > > > play them. > > > > > > > > Remember, the dkcopy utility only works when you reboot your >computer >in > > > > DOS. > > > > > > > > Carol Beigel > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "waimanliu2001" <waimanliu@...> > > > > >Reply-To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > > > > >To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > > > > >Subject: [disklavier] Read the disklavier disk in computer > > > > >Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 04:35:13 -0000 > > > > > > > > > >Does anybody know how to read the disklavier disk in the computer ? >I > > > > >try the utility that post in 'file' session before, but it is not > > > > >success, the computer cannot regconize the diskette. > > > > >my piano is MX100, I want to save the midi in disk and play those > > > > >song in my piano, but i does not success..... > > > > > > > > > >Thanks a lot > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: >http://messenger.msn.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Post a message to the group, send it to: >disklavier@... > > > > > > > > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and > > >moderator, send it to: > > > > disklavier-owner@... > > > > > > > > To reach our group's web site go to: > > > > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier > > > > > > > > Todd's family web site was completely rewritten in June 2001 and > > >contains > > >some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among other things, >The > > >url is: > > > > http://MuncyFamily.com > > > > > > > > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP? > > > > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much > > >mail, > > >go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead. >That > > >will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group. 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2002-01-10 by vincentdeleur
By playing a Midi 1 format disk it is possible to hear all channels by editing the control unit, pianopart should be set on prg. I think this can work. In a sequence programm MIDI 1 format shows all channels seperate, it is easier to work with. -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Carol Beigel [mailto:carolrpt@...] Verzonden: donderdag 10 januari 2002 17:58 Aan: disklavier@yahoogroups.com Onderwerp: Re: [disklavier] Read the disklavier disk in computer Sometimes the file will say: Song(1).mid which is a MIDI 1 format. All PianoDisc songs are MIDI 0 files. A MIDI sequencer program like Cakewalk HOme Studio, or ProAudio Tracks will also tell you what format the MIDI file is in. Standard MIDI Format 0 (SMF-0) assembles all MIDI data on a single track, allowing playback on even the simplest of sequencers or playback devices. This format also offers the greatest compatibility. Standard MIDI Format 1 (SMF-1) is capable of handling multiple tracks, and is designed to work best with sequencers that allow different parts to be recorded and played back on different tracks - essential for editing and modifying data as well as simple playback. ESEQ is a Yamaha proprietary format for Disklaviers. All the files on genuine Yamaha PianoSoft disks are their proprietary E-SEQ format and usually have the extension .fil This is the ONLY file format that can be played on the MX100A/B, DGP and MX80 Disklaviers. Carol Beigel >From: "Sam Ho" <sammyho@...> >Reply-To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com >To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> >Subject: Re: [disklavier] Read the disklavier disk in computer >Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 00:26:41 +0800 > >Thank you Carol for your prompt response. > >Please advise how to tell whether a midi file is format 0 or 1. Is there a >software that can show the file format and how to convert from Midi 1 to 0 >? > >Many thanks. > >Sammy > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Carol Beigel" <carolrpt@...> >To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 12:16 AM >Subject: Re: [disklavier] Read the disklavier disk in computer > > > > Your MPX100II is the same piano as the MX100II except that is has the >Silent > > feature. It only supports MIDI format 0 files (as well as ESEQ)and 2DD > > disks. Most of the MIDI files you find on the internet are MIDI format >1 > > files, so you will have to convert them to MIDI format 0 before you can >use > > them. > > > > All you need to do is format a 2DD disk (720 k,one hole) in IBM format >on > > your computer. Just drag and drop the MIDI format 0 files onto the disk >and > > you should be good to go. > > > > Carol Beigel > > > > > > >From: "Sam Ho" <sammyho@...> > > >Reply-To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > > >To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> > > >Subject: Re: [disklavier] Read the disklavier disk in computer > > >Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:46:30 +0800 > > > > > >Hi Carol, > > > > > >I have a Disklavier MPX 100 II. Do you know if it supports midi file ? >If > > >it > > >does, how to copy midi files from PC to the diskette ? I have been >using > > >the > > >Eexplore & Mid2eseq software to convert midi to ESEQ and copy to the > > >floppy. > > > > > >Thanks & regards, > > > > > >Sammy > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Carol Beigel" <carolrpt@...> > > >To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> > > >Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 2:26 PM > > >Subject: Re: [disklavier] Read the disklavier disk in computer > > > > > > > > > > You can't put a Yamaha disk into your computer and have it read. >But > > >you > > > > can use the dkcopy utility and make a COPY of your disk that the > > >computer > > > > CAN read. Because your Disklavier is an MX100, it will only see 2DD > > >disks > > > > and not 2HD floppies. Buy 2DD floppies from www.shoplet.com or tape > > >over > > > > the bottom right hole of a 2HD diskette and format it as a 720k >disk. > > >Also, > > > > you will have to convert all MIDI files to ESEQ files for your > > >Disklavier > > >to > > > > play them. > > > > > > > > Remember, the dkcopy utility only works when you reboot your >computer >in > > > > DOS. > > > > > > > > Carol Beigel > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "waimanliu2001" <waimanliu@...> > > > > >Reply-To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > > > > >To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > > > > >Subject: [disklavier] Read the disklavier disk in computer > > > > >Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 04:35:13 -0000 > > > > > > > > > >Does anybody know how to read the disklavier disk in the computer ? >I > > > > >try the utility that post in 'file' session before, but it is not > > > > >success, the computer cannot regconize the diskette. > > > > >my piano is MX100, I want to save the midi in disk and play those > > > > >song in my piano, but i does not success..... > > > > > > > > > >Thanks a lot > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: >http://messenger.msn.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Post a message to the group, send it to: >disklavier@... > > > > > > > > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and > > >moderator, send it to: > > > > disklavier-owner@... > > > > > > > > To reach our group's web site go to: > > > > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier > > > > > > > > Todd's family web site was completely rewritten in June 2001 and > > >contains > > >some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among other things, >The > > >url is: > > > > http://MuncyFamily.com > > > > > > > > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP? > > > > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much > > >mail, > > >go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead. >That > > >will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group. If >you > > >insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to: > > > > disklavier-unsubscribe@... > > > > > > > > Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a blank email to: > > > > disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this link: > > > > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > >http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > > > To Post a message to the group, send it to: disklavier@... > > > > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and >moderator, send it to: > > disklavier-owner@... > > > > To reach our group's web site go to: > > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier > > > > Todd's family web site was completely rewritten in June 2001 and >contains >some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among other things, The >url is: > > http://MuncyFamily.com > > > > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP? > > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much >mail, >go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead. That >will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group. If you >insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to: > > disklavier-unsubscribe@... > > > > Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a blank email to: > > disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this link: > > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to >http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. To Post a message to the group, send it to: disklavier@... To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and moderator, send it to: disklavier-owner@... To reach our group's web site go to: http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier Todd's family web site was completely rewritten in June 2001 and contains some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among other things, The url is: http://MuncyFamily.com THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP? If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail, go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead. That will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group. If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to: disklavier-unsubscribe@... Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a blank email to: disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this link: http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
2002-01-11 by Sam Ho
Thank you Carol for your great help and support. Best regards, Sammy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Beigel" <carolrpt@...> To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 12:58 AM Subject: Re: [disklavier] Read the disklavier disk in computer > Sometimes the file will say: Song(1).mid which is a MIDI 1 format. All > PianoDisc songs are MIDI 0 files. A MIDI sequencer program like Cakewalk > HOme Studio, or ProAudio Tracks will also tell you what format the MIDI file > is in. > > Standard MIDI Format 0 (SMF-0) assembles all MIDI data on a single track, > allowing playback on even the simplest of sequencers or playback devices. > This format also offers the greatest compatibility. > > Standard MIDI Format 1 (SMF-1) is capable of handling multiple tracks, and > is designed to work best with sequencers that allow different parts to be > recorded and played back on different tracks - essential for editing and > modifying data as well as simple playback. > > ESEQ is a Yamaha proprietary format for Disklaviers. All the files on > genuine Yamaha PianoSoft disks are their proprietary E-SEQ format and > usually have the extension .fil This is the ONLY file format that can be > played on the MX100A/B, DGP and MX80 Disklaviers. > > Carol Beigel > > > > >From: "Sam Ho" <sammyho@...> > >Reply-To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > >To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> > >Subject: Re: [disklavier] Read the disklavier disk in computer > >Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 00:26:41 +0800 > > > >Thank you Carol for your prompt response. > > > >Please advise how to tell whether a midi file is format 0 or 1. Is there a > >software that can show the file format and how to convert from Midi 1 to 0 > >? > > > >Many thanks. > > > >Sammy > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Carol Beigel" <carolrpt@...> > >To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> > >Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 12:16 AM > >Subject: Re: [disklavier] Read the disklavier disk in computer > > > > > > > Your MPX100II is the same piano as the MX100II except that is has the > >Silent > > > feature. It only supports MIDI format 0 files (as well as ESEQ)and 2DD > > > disks. Most of the MIDI files you find on the internet are MIDI format > >1 > > > files, so you will have to convert them to MIDI format 0 before you can > >use > > > them. > > > > > > All you need to do is format a 2DD disk (720 k,one hole) in IBM format > >on > > > your computer. Just drag and drop the MIDI format 0 files onto the disk > >and > > > you should be good to go. > > > > > > Carol Beigel > > > > > > > > > >From: "Sam Ho" <sammyho@...> > > > >Reply-To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > > > >To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> > > > >Subject: Re: [disklavier] Read the disklavier disk in computer > > > >Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:46:30 +0800 > > > > > > > >Hi Carol, > > > > > > > >I have a Disklavier MPX 100 II. Do you know if it supports midi file ? > >If > > > >it > > > >does, how to copy midi files from PC to the diskette ? I have been > >using > > > >the > > > >Eexplore & Mid2eseq software to convert midi to ESEQ and copy to the > > > >floppy. > > > > > > > >Thanks & regards, > > > > > > > >Sammy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "Carol Beigel" <carolrpt@...> > > > >To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> > > > >Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 2:26 PM > > > >Subject: Re: [disklavier] Read the disklavier disk in computer > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can't put a Yamaha disk into your computer and have it read. > >But > > > >you > > > > > can use the dkcopy utility and make a COPY of your disk that the > > > >computer > > > > > CAN read. Because your Disklavier is an MX100, it will only see 2DD > > > >disks > > > > > and not 2HD floppies. Buy 2DD floppies from www.shoplet.com or tape > > > >over > > > > > the bottom right hole of a 2HD diskette and format it as a 720k > >disk. > > > >Also, > > > > > you will have to convert all MIDI files to ESEQ files for your > > > >Disklavier > > > >to > > > > > play them. > > > > > > > > > > Remember, the dkcopy utility only works when you reboot your > >computer > >in > > > > > DOS. > > > > > > > > > > Carol Beigel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "waimanliu2001" <waimanliu@...> > > > > > >Reply-To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > > > > > >To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > > > > > >Subject: [disklavier] Read the disklavier disk in computer > > > > > >Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 04:35:13 -0000 > > > > > > > > > > > >Does anybody know how to read the disklavier disk in the computer ? > >I > > > > > >try the utility that post in 'file' session before, but it is not > > > > > >success, the computer cannot regconize the diskette. > > > > > >my piano is MX100, I want to save the midi in disk and play those > > > > > >song in my piano, but i does not success..... > > > > > > > > > > > >Thanks a lot > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: > >http://messenger.msn.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Post a message to the group, send it to: > >disklavier@... > > > > > > > > > > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and > > > >moderator, send it to: > > > > > disklavier-owner@... > > > > > > > > > > To reach our group's web site go to: > > > > > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier > > > > > > > > > > Todd's family web site was completely rewritten in June 2001 and > > > >contains > > > >some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among other things, > >The > > > >url is: > > > > > http://MuncyFamily.com > > > > > > > > > > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP? > > > > > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much > > > >mail, > > > >go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead. > >That > > > >will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group. If > >you > > > >insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to: > > > > > disklavier-unsubscribe@... > > > > > > > > > > Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a blank email to: > > > > > disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this link: > > > > > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > > >http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > > > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > To Post a message to the group, send it to: disklavier@... > > > > > > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and > >moderator, send it to: > > > disklavier-owner@... > > > > > > To reach our group's web site go to: > > > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier > > > > > > Todd's family web site was completely rewritten in June 2001 and > >contains > >some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among other things, The > >url is: > > > http://MuncyFamily.com > > > > > > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP? > > > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much > >mail, > >go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead. That > >will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group. If you > >insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to: > > > disklavier-unsubscribe@... > > > > > > Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a blank email to: > > > disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this link: > > > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > >http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > > To Post a message to the group, send it to: disklavier@... > > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and moderator, send it to: > disklavier-owner@... > > To reach our group's web site go to: > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier > > Todd's family web site was completely rewritten in June 2001 and contains some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among other things, The url is: > http://MuncyFamily.com > > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP? > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail, go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead. That will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group. If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to:
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2002-01-11 by Sam Ho
Thank you PianoBench for the additional information on Mark II machines. Best regards, Sammy ----- Original Message ----- From: <PianoBench@...> To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 12:56 AM Subject: Re: [disklavier] Read the disklavier disk in computer > Good morning everyone, > > In a message dated 1/10/02 11:21:24 AM, Carol writes: > > << Your MPX100II is the same piano as the MX100II except that is has the > Silent > feature. It only supports MIDI format 0 files (as well as ESEQ)and 2DD > disks. Most of the MIDI files you find on the internet are MIDI format 1 > files, so you will have to convert them to MIDI format 0 before you can use > them. > > All you need to do is format a 2DD disk (720 k,one hole) in IBM format on > your computer. Just drag and drop the MIDI format 0 files onto the disk and > you should be good to go. >> > > This is an excellent explanation. Let me add that you should avoid putting > anything on the disk other than Type 0 SMFs. Note, also, that the earliest > Mark II Disklaviers have ROM chips that need updating in order to play these > SMFs. I suggest that you try a properly configured disk to see if this works. > If it does not, we may need to determine the version of the ROM chip. > > Note, further, that you do not have full use of the various transport contr > ols on the Disklavier or remote when playing SMFs on a Mark II. For example, > the search function does not work for SMFs. In other words, support for SMFs > is not really complete. > > Another solution--and a much better one in my opinion--is to have the offical > Mark II-->Mark IIXG upgrade installed. This will give you full support for > both SMF Types 0 and 1, high density disks, and a tone generator (which is > need for so many of the files that you encounter). > > A complete upgrade will involve removal of the upper panel of the instrument > in which the control unit is housed, removal of the control unit, > installation of a new panel that has no control unit built in, and new > control unit that either sits on top or that can be mounted beneath the keys. > > Regards, > PianoBench > > > To Post a message to the group, send it to: disklavier@... > > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and moderator, send it to: > disklavier-owner@... > > To reach our group's web site go to: > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier > > Todd's family web site was completely rewritten in June 2001 and contains some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among other things, The url is: > http://MuncyFamily.com > > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP? > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail, go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead. That will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group. If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to:
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