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2004-01-07 by Carol Beigel
The DGA1XG is what you have. It is a play-only MarkII XG Disklavier. It it NOT a DGA1 which is a MarkIII unit. It can only be upgraded with a DSR1. No way will a MarkIII control unit with a built-in CD player ever work on this unit. You got an acoustic piano with digital playback capabilities. Carol Beigel
2004-01-07 by Jim Schelling
To Carol and Piano Bench, It seems that the dealer did a switch on me and did not give me the grand I picked out in his showroom and then add the DKV to it. He told me it would take a few weeks to install all the DKV parts, but was probably checking all his stores for the MarkII XG. I guess I am happy with what I have and will investigate the purchase of a DSR1. Do you have any idea of the cost of this unit? Can I order it from Yamaha, or do I have to go through a dealer? Thanks for helping out an uneducated user. If I had known about DUG before I purchased the piano, I could have dealt more intelligently with the dealer, although he gave me a good price and took our KAWAI digital piano in on trade.
-----Original Message----- From: Carol Beigel [mailto:crbrpt@...] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:34 PM To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com Subject: [disklavier] Re: DGA1XG (was reply...) The DGA1XG is what you have. It is a play-only MarkII XG Disklavier. It it NOT a DGA1 which is a MarkIII unit. It can only be upgraded with a DSR1. No way will a MarkIII control unit with a built-in CD player ever work on this unit. You got an acoustic piano with digital playback capabilities. Carol Beigel To Post a message to the group, send it to: disklavier@... To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and moderator, send it to: disklavier-owner@... To reach our group's web site go to: http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier Todd's family web site was completely updated 012/22/03. It contains some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among many other things, The url is: http://MuncyFamily.com THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP? If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail, go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead. That will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group. If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to: disklavier-unsubscribe@... Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a blank email to: disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this link: http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/disklavier/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: disklavier-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Service.
2004-01-07 by Amanda Heidemann MD
Jim, I'm glad that you're happy with your piano, despite the dealer's shenanigans. I don't know if anyone else knows if there is some way to make a complaint about this kind of behaviour to Yamaha (telling a client they are installing the DKV at the shop is such a blatant mis-statement....) or not. Chances are if they are misleading to one client, they are misleading more people.... knowing how much of an investment buying a DKV is to most families, it's irritating to see people mislead. Amanda Heidemann --- Jim Schelling <jimschelling@...> wrote: > To Carol and Piano Bench, > > It seems that the dealer did a switch on me and did > not give me the > grand I picked out in his showroom and then add the > DKV to it. He told > me it would take a few weeks to install all the DKV > parts, but was > probably checking all his stores for the MarkII XG. > I guess I am happy > with what I have and will investigate the purchase > of a DSR1. Do you > have any idea of the cost of this unit? Can I order > it from Yamaha, or > do I have to go through a dealer? > > Thanks for helping out an uneducated user. If I had > known about DUG > before I purchased the piano, I could have dealt > more intelligently with > the dealer, although he gave me a good price and > took our KAWAI digital > piano in on trade. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carol Beigel [mailto:crbrpt@...] > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:34 PM > To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [disklavier] Re: DGA1XG (was reply...) > > The DGA1XG is what you have. It is a play-only > MarkII XG Disklavier. > It it > NOT a DGA1 which is a MarkIII unit. It can only be > upgraded with a > DSR1. > No way will a MarkIII control unit with a built-in > CD player ever work > on > this unit. You got an acoustic piano with digital > playback > capabilities. > > Carol Beigel __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus
2004-01-07 by Carol Beigel
A DSR-1 retails for $1295 from a Yamaha dealer. For anyone ever buying a "specific" piano, ALWAYS write down the serial number of the unit you think you are getting!!!! Having been in this business for over 25 years I am familiar with the scenario whereby what the customer hears is not what the salespeople intended. Salespeople can also be misinformed - especially when trying to piece together a "great deal" that just does not exist. Perhaps this dealership sold not only Disklavier, but PianoDisc or QRS as well. A newbie salesperson might not be aware that a Disklavier is ONLY factory installed. I am happy that you are pleased with your purchase. I doubt you got ripped off. You have a new instrument with a terrific warranty. You got a price you were happy with. Perhaps they can also make you a good deal on the DSR-1! Carol Beigel ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Schelling" <jimschelling@...> To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 11:00 AM Subject: RE: [disklavier] Re: DGA1XG (was reply...) > To Carol and Piano Bench, > > It seems that the dealer did a switch on me and did not give me the > grand I picked out in his showroom and then add the DKV to it. He told > me it would take a few weeks to install all the DKV parts, but was > probably checking all his stores for the MarkII XG. I guess I am happy > with what I have and will investigate the purchase of a DSR1. Do you > have any idea of the cost of this unit? Can I order it from Yamaha, or > do I have to go through a dealer? > > Thanks for helping out an uneducated user. If I had known about DUG > before I purchased the piano, I could have dealt more intelligently with > the dealer, although he gave me a good price and took our KAWAI digital > piano in on trade. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carol Beigel [mailto:crbrpt@...] > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:34 PM > To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [disklavier] Re: DGA1XG (was reply...) > > The DGA1XG is what you have. It is a play-only MarkII XG Disklavier. > It it > NOT a DGA1 which is a MarkIII unit. It can only be upgraded with a > DSR1. > No way will a MarkIII control unit with a built-in CD player ever work > on > this unit. You got an acoustic piano with digital playback > capabilities. > > Carol Beigel >
2004-01-08 by Jim Schelling
Thanks, Carol. Yamaha's SRP for the DSR-1 is $1395. The local dealer claimed it was $1495 and would sell the unit to me for $1295. This would give my piano the ability to play "Smart Piano Soft" along with some commercial CD's. Have you heard any of these? Would the DSR-1 give better sounds for the "synthesized" MIDI instruments? Those coming from the XG unit are not always the best. I'm trying to justify spending the extra money for the DSR-1. I would appreciate any input. I don't think the dealer intentionally tried to mislead me, but he didn't tell me about other pianos in the DKV line, just the digital piano, and I went into the buying experience with 'eyes wide shut'.
-----Original Message----- From: Carol Beigel [mailto:crbrpt@...] Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 6:43 PM To: dug Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: DGA1XG (was reply...) A DSR-1 retails for $1295 from a Yamaha dealer. For anyone ever buying a "specific" piano, ALWAYS write down the serial number of the unit you think you are getting!!!! Having been in this business for over 25 years I am familiar with the scenario whereby what the customer hears is not what the salespeople intended. Salespeople can also be misinformed - especially when trying to piece together a "great deal" that just does not exist. Perhaps this dealership sold not only Disklavier, but PianoDisc or QRS as well. A newbie salesperson might not be aware that a Disklavier is ONLY factory installed. I am happy that you are pleased with your purchase. I doubt you got ripped off. You have a new instrument with a terrific warranty. You got a price you were happy with. Perhaps they can also make you a good deal on the DSR-1! Carol Beigel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Schelling" <jimschelling@...> To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 11:00 AM Subject: RE: [disklavier] Re: DGA1XG (was reply...) > To Carol and Piano Bench, > > It seems that the dealer did a switch on me and did not give me the > grand I picked out in his showroom and then add the DKV to it. He told > me it would take a few weeks to install all the DKV parts, but was > probably checking all his stores for the MarkII XG. I guess I am happy > with what I have and will investigate the purchase of a DSR1. Do you > have any idea of the cost of this unit? Can I order it from Yamaha, or > do I have to go through a dealer? > > Thanks for helping out an uneducated user. If I had known about DUG > before I purchased the piano, I could have dealt more intelligently with > the dealer, although he gave me a good price and took our KAWAI digital > piano in on trade. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carol Beigel [mailto:crbrpt@...] > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:34 PM > To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [disklavier] Re: DGA1XG (was reply...) > > The DGA1XG is what you have. It is a play-only MarkII XG Disklavier. > It it > NOT a DGA1 which is a MarkIII unit. It can only be upgraded with a > DSR1. > No way will a MarkIII control unit with a built-in CD player ever work > on > this unit. You got an acoustic piano with digital playback > capabilities. > > Carol Beigel > To Post a message to the group, send it to: disklavier@... To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and moderator, send it to: disklavier-owner@... To reach our group's web site go to: http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier Todd's family web site was completely updated 012/22/03. It contains some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among many other things, The url is: http://MuncyFamily.com THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP? If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail, go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead. That will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group. If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to: disklavier-unsubscribe@... Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a blank email to: disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this link: http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/disklavier/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: disklavier-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Service.
2004-01-08 by rrl_edm
As to your question about whether the DSR-1 is better sounding than the XG unit , I would say that there should be no difference in the quality of the instrument sounds (referred to as `voices'). As information, the XG unit you are referring to is equivalent to sounds produces by a Yamaha MU50 tone generator. The DSR-1 has an internal tone generator that uses the same `wavetable' as the Yamaha MU50. That is, both devices have identical high quality voice samples as both use the same method of tone generation known as `Advanced Wave Memory 2' (AWM2) and both devices are 32-note polyphonic and 16-part multi-timbral. Appreciate that while the MU50 is a dedicated (standalone) hardware tone generator, the DSR-1 is a device specifically designed for use with a Disklavier (provides disk drive, playback of PianoSoft disks and Standard MIDI Files, Disklavier recording capability, etc.). --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Schelling" <jimschelling@a...> wrote: > Thanks, Carol. Yamaha's SRP for the DSR-1 is $1395. The local dealer > claimed it was $1495 and would sell the unit to me for $1295. This would > give my piano the ability to play "Smart Piano Soft" along with some > commercial CD's. Have you heard any of these? Would the DSR-1 give > better sounds for the "synthesized" MIDI instruments? Those coming from > the XG unit are not always the best. I'm trying to justify spending the > extra money for the DSR-1. I would appreciate any input. > > I don't think the dealer intentionally tried to mislead me, but he > didn't tell me about other pianos in the DKV line, just the digital > piano, and I went into the buying experience with 'eyes wide shut'. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carol Beigel [mailto:crbrpt@b...] > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 6:43 PM > To: dug > Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: DGA1XG (was reply...) > > A DSR-1 retails for $1295 from a Yamaha dealer. For anyone ever buying a > "specific" piano, ALWAYS write down the serial number of the unit you > think > you are getting!!!! Having been in this business for over 25 years I am > familiar with the scenario whereby what the customer hears is not what > the > salespeople intended. Salespeople can also be misinformed - especially > when > trying to piece together a "great deal" that just does not exist. > Perhaps > this dealership sold not only Disklavier, but PianoDisc or QRS as well. > A > newbie salesperson might not be aware that a Disklavier is ONLY factory > installed. > > I am happy that you are pleased with your purchase. I doubt you got > ripped > off. You have a new instrument with a terrific warranty. You got a > price > you were happy with. Perhaps they can also make you a good deal on the
> DSR-1! > > Carol Beigel
2004-01-09 by Jim Schelling
I'm seriously considering adding a DSR-1 to my MarkIIXG. Will this add benefits other than the ability to play PianoSmart disks? Have you heard any of the PianoSmart disk/CD combos? I would appreciate feedback from yourself and PianoBench. My technical knowledge is mostly in computers and I am pretty dumb about the DKV systems ( as you can probably tell).
-----Original Message----- From: Carol Beigel [mailto:crbrpt@...] Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 6:43 PM To: dug Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: DGA1XG (was reply...) A DSR-1 retails for $1295 from a Yamaha dealer. For anyone ever buying a "specific" piano, ALWAYS write down the serial number of the unit you think you are getting!!!! Having been in this business for over 25 years I am familiar with the scenario whereby what the customer hears is not what the salespeople intended. Salespeople can also be misinformed - especially when trying to piece together a "great deal" that just does not exist. Perhaps this dealership sold not only Disklavier, but PianoDisc or QRS as well. A newbie salesperson might not be aware that a Disklavier is ONLY factory installed. I am happy that you are pleased with your purchase. I doubt you got ripped off. You have a new instrument with a terrific warranty. You got a price you were happy with. Perhaps they can also make you a good deal on the DSR-1! Carol Beigel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Schelling" <jimschelling@...> To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 11:00 AM Subject: RE: [disklavier] Re: DGA1XG (was reply...) > To Carol and Piano Bench, > > It seems that the dealer did a switch on me and did not give me the > grand I picked out in his showroom and then add the DKV to it. He told > me it would take a few weeks to install all the DKV parts, but was > probably checking all his stores for the MarkII XG. I guess I am happy > with what I have and will investigate the purchase of a DSR1. Do you > have any idea of the cost of this unit? Can I order it from Yamaha, or > do I have to go through a dealer? > > Thanks for helping out an uneducated user. If I had known about DUG > before I purchased the piano, I could have dealt more intelligently with > the dealer, although he gave me a good price and took our KAWAI digital > piano in on trade. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carol Beigel [mailto:crbrpt@...] > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:34 PM > To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [disklavier] Re: DGA1XG (was reply...) > > The DGA1XG is what you have. It is a play-only MarkII XG Disklavier. > It it > NOT a DGA1 which is a MarkIII unit. It can only be upgraded with a > DSR1. > No way will a MarkIII control unit with a built-in CD player ever work > on > this unit. You got an acoustic piano with digital playback > capabilities. > > Carol Beigel > To Post a message to the group, send it to: disklavier@... To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and moderator, send it to: disklavier-owner@... To reach our group's web site go to: http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier Todd's family web site was completely updated 012/22/03. It contains some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among many other things, The url is: http://MuncyFamily.com THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP? If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail, go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead. That will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group. If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to: disklavier-unsubscribe@... Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a blank email to: disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this link: http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/disklavier/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: disklavier-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Service.
2004-02-03 by PianoBench@aol.com