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2008-10-14 by driller010165
Hi, Someone is asking me what format my Disklavier Mark III can play and I had no idea what it meant. Which one has the best quality for Mark III with record function? I have a Yamaha DGC1-B. His choices were: GM GM2 GM-XG XG The GS did not play on my Mark III. TIA
2008-10-14 by Carol Beigel
MIDI format 0 and MIDI format 1 will play on your Disklavier. The XG sounds are the best on your list and Yamaha developed them! GM stands for General MIDI which was standardized in the 1980's. Originally MIDI was in different proprietary formats and the various systems could not talk to each other. XG was the next generation of GM. Carol Beigel ----- Original Message -----
From: "driller010165" <dokhanchi@...> To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 10:40 AM Subject: [disklavier] Which MIDI format sound best on Mark III > Hi, > > Someone is asking me what format my Disklavier Mark III can play and I > had no idea what it meant. Which one has the best quality for Mark III > with record function? I have a Yamaha DGC1-B. His choices were: > > GM > GM2 > GM-XG > XG > > The GS did not play on my Mark III. > > TIA > > > ------------------------------------ > > To Post a message to the group, send it to: disklavier@... > > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and > moderator, send it to: > disklavier-owner@... > > To reach our group's web site go to: > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier > > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP? > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail, > go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead. That > will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group. If you > insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to: > disklavier-unsubscribe@... > > Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a blank email to: > disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this link: > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > Internal Virus Database is out of date. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.7.3/1694 - Release Date: 9/26/2008 > 6:55 PM > > >
2008-10-15 by Dokhanchi
Thank you. Very helpful. Quite new to this stuff. Bob Dokhanchi --- On Tue, 10/14/08, Carol Beigel <thecarolb@...> wrote: From: Carol Beigel <thecarolb@...> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Which MIDI format sound best on Mark III To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 5:52 PM MIDI format 0 and MIDI format 1 will play on your Disklavier. The XG sounds are the best on your list and Yamaha developed them! GM stands for General MIDI which was standardized in the 1980's. Originally MIDI was in different proprietary formats and the various systems could not talk to each other. XG was the next generation of GM. Carol Beigel ----- Original Message -----
From: "driller010165" <dokhanchi@yahoo. com> To: <disklavier@yahoogro ups.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 10:40 AM Subject: [disklavier] Which MIDI format sound best on Mark III > Hi, > > Someone is asking me what format my Disklavier Mark III can play and I > had no idea what it meant. Which one has the best quality for Mark III > with record function? I have a Yamaha DGC1-B. His choices were: > > GM > GM2 > GM-XG > XG > > The GS did not play on my Mark III. > > TIA > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > To Post a message to the group, send it to: disklavier@YahooGro ups.com > > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and > moderator, send it to: > disklavier-owner@ Yahoogroups. com > > To reach our group's web site go to: > http://Yahoogroups. com/group/ disklavier > > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP? > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail, > go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead. That > will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group. If you > insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to: > disklavier-unsubscr ibe@yahooGroups. com > > Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a blank email to: > disklavier-subscrib e@eGroups. com or give them this link: > http://Yahoogroups. com/group/ disklavier/ join > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > Internal Virus Database is out of date. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.7.3/1694 - Release Date: 9/26/2008 > 6:55 PM > > >
2008-10-15 by JORGE FERNANDEZ
Following Carol s comments, all off ... All are pure MIDI standards not exclusive to DKV s, so all of them should play fine in a Mark III, given that the
2008-10-15 by ISKI1@aol.com
You can put Midi files on a CD that plays on a Disklavier. http://dp70.dyndns.org/mid2pianocd/ The midi files are converted to wav files so you can only put about 15-20 songs on a CD. This only makes sense if you only have a CD player or you want to combine a Pianosoft Smart disk with the matching Midi file. However if you have a floopy drive on your Disklavier you can put about 70 midi files on a floppy (depending on the file size).
-----Original Message----- From: JORGE FERNANDEZ <jorgefedez@...> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 9:31 am Subject: Re: [disklavier] Which MIDI format sound best on Mark III Following Carol's comments, all off > GM > GM2 > GM-XG > XG > All are "pure" MIDI standards not exclusive to DKV's, so all of them should play fine in a Mark III, given that the "Channel set up" in the DKV correspond to the files, so that the piano play the piano parts and the orchestral sounds are played by the sound module. But what about the Yamaha own MIDI file standards for the DKV. Which ones play in the Mark III Bob has and which ones don't? Also, he wants put the MIDI files in a CD and play it on the DKV, as far a I remember this won´t work. He said he has an DGC1-B >Which one will play with best quality on this piano? (Mine is a Mark II, so i can't remember) 2008/10/14 Dokhanchi <d okhanchi@...> Thank you. Very helpful. Quite new to this stuff. Bob Dokhanchi --- On Tue, 10/14/08, Carol Beigel <thecarolb@...> wrote: From: Carol Beigel <thecarolb@...> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Which MIDI format sound best on Mark III To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 5:52 PM MIDI format 0 and MIDI format 1 will play on your Disklavier. The XG sounds are the best on your list and Yamaha developed them! GM stands for General MIDI which was standardized in the 1980's. Originally MIDI was in different proprietary formats and the various systems could not talk to each other. XG was the next generation of GM. Carol Beigel ----- Original Message ----- From: "driller010165" <dokhanchi@yahoo. com> To: <disklavier@yahoogro ups.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 10:40 AM Subject: [disklavier] Which MIDI format sound best on Mark III > Hi, > > Someone is asking me what format my Disklavier Mark III can play and I > had no idea what it meant. Which one has the best quality for Mark III > with record function? I have a Yamaha DGC1-B. His choices were: > > GM > GM2 > GM-XG > XG > > The GS did not play on my Mark III. > > TIA > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > To Post a message to the group, send it to: disklavier@YahooGro ups.com > > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the g roup's founder and > moderator, send it to: > disklavier-owner@ Yahoogroups. com > > To reach our group's web site go to: > http://Yahoogroups. com/group/ disklavier > > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP? > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail, > go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead. That > will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group. If you > insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to: > disklavier-unsubscr ibe@yahooGroups. com > > Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a blank email to: > disklavier-subscrib e@eGroups. com or give them this link: > http://Yahoogroups. com/group/ disklavier/ join > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > Internal Virus Database is out of date. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.7.3/1694 - Release Date: 9/26/2008 > 6:55 PM > > > -- Saludos Jorge Fernández | ''' | | (0 0) |___,,,^..^,,,__/----oOO---(_)---OOo---
2008-10-15 by Dokhanchi
From: ISKI1@...
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Which MIDI format sound best on Mark III
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 9:39 AM
You can put Midi files on a CD that plays on a Disklavier.
http://dp70. dyndns.org/ mid2pianocd/
The midi files are converted to wav files so you can only put about 15-20 songs on a CD.
This only makes sense if you only have a CD player or you want to combine a Pianosoft Smart disk with the matching Midi file.
However if you have a floopy drive on your Disklavier you can put about 70 midi files on a floppy (depending on the file size).
-----Original Message-----
From: JORGE FERNANDEZ
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 9:31 am
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Which MIDI format sound best on Mark III
Following Carol's comments, all off> GM> GM2> GM-XG> XG>All are "pure" MIDI standards not exclusive to DKV's, so all of them should play fine in a Mark III, given that the "Channel set up" in the DKV correspond to the files, so that the p iano play the piano parts and the orchestral sounds are played by the sound module.But what about the Yamaha own MIDI file standards for the DKV.Which ones play in the Mark III Bob has and which ones don't?Also, he wants put the MIDI files in a CD and play it on the DKV, as far a I remember this won´t work.He said he has an DGC1-B>Which one will play with best quality on this piano?(Mine is a Mark II, so i can't remember)2008/10/14 Dokhanchi <dokhanchi@yahoo. com>Thank you. Very helpful. Quite new to this stuff.Bob Dokhanchi--- On Tue, 10/14/08, Carol Beigel <thecarolb@comcast. net> wrote:From: Carol Beigel <thecarolb@comcast. net>Subject: Re: [disklavier] Wh ich MIDI format sound best on Mark IIITo: disklavier@yahoogro ups.comDate: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 5:52 PMMIDI format 0 and MIDI format 1 will play on your Disklavier. The XG soundsare the best on your list and Yamaha developed them! GM stands for GeneralMIDI which was standardized in the 1980's. Originally MIDI was in differentproprietary formats and the various systems could not talk to each other.XG was the next generation of GM.Carol Beigel----- Original Message -----From: "driller010165" <dokhanchi@yahoo. com>To: <disklavier@yahoogro ups.com>Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 10:40 AMSubject: [disklavier] Which MIDI format sound best on Mark III> Hi,>> Someone is asking me what format my Disklavier Mark III can play and I> had no idea what it meant. Which one has the best quality for Mark III> with record function? I have a Yamaha DGC1-B. His choices were:>> GM> GM2> GM-XG> XG>> The GS did not play on my Mark III. div>>> TIA>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------>> To Post a message to the group, send it to: disklavier@YahooGro ups.com>> To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and> moderator, send it to:> disklavier-owner@ Yahoogroups. com>> To reach our group's web site go to:> http://Yahoogroups. com/group/ disklavier>>; THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?> If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail,> go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead. That> will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group. If you> insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to:> disklavier-unsubscr ibe@yahooGroups. com>> Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a blank email to:> disklavier-subscrib e@eGroups. com or give them this link:> ; http://Yahoogroups. com/group/ disklavier/ join> Yahoo! Groups Links>>>>> Internal Virus Database is out of date.> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.7.3/1694 - Release Date: 9/26/2008> 6:55 PM>>>--SaludosJorge Fernández| '''| | (0 0)|___,,,^..^, ,,__/---- oOO---(_ ) ---OOo---
2008-10-15 by JORGE FERNANDEZ
Bob. Some Yamaha s MIDI File formats for DKV just have extra information that not all DKVs can decode, this extra information is put there when you Record a
2008-10-16 by George F. Litterst
Good morning, everyone. On Oct 14, 2008, at 10:40 AM, driller010165 wrote: > Hi, > > Someone is asking me what format my Disklavier Mark III can play and I > had no idea what it meant. Which one has the best quality for Mark III > with record function? I have a Yamaha DGC1-B. His choices were: > > GM > GM2 > GM-XG > XG > > The GS did not play on my Mark III. > > TIA > Just to be clear: There are MIDI file formats and then there are MIDI protocols for setting the correct sounds. Modern Disklaviers read MIDI file formats called: --Standard MIDI File Type 0 --Standard MIDI File Type 1 --E-SEQ SMF 0 and 1 are industry standard formats. E-SEQ is an older, proprietary format pioneered by Yamaha before SMF was defined. Natively, modern Disklaviers record in SMF. However, Yamaha has typically published song files in E-SEQ in order to maintain backward compatibility with older instruments. GM, GM2, XG, and GS are names for sets of sounds, not file formats. In the old days, each manufacturer had a proprietary set of sounds that were uniquely numbered. For example, Sound #7 might be flute in one case on bass in another. In order to make it possible for MIDI file authors to create files that played back a broad range of devices from different manufacturers, the industry adopted a set of sounds called General MIDI (GM). The quality of GM sounds varies from one instrument to another. But when you hear a GM file played on any GM device, you can be confident that you are hearing the correct sounds. There are 128 sounds in the GM set plus a drum kit. Of course, MIDI file authors want even more choices. Accordingly, Yamaha came up with a superset of GM called XG. Roland came up with a different superset called GS. A couple of years ago, there was an attempt to make an industry-standard superset of GM called GM2. I don't know of any professionally authored files that use GM2, and GM2 does not seem to have caught the public's imagination. There are lots of XG and GS MIDI files, however. If you play an XG, GM2, or GS file on a device that only knows about GM, the file should play reasonably accurately, with appropriate voice substitutions. Since the Mark II, Disklaviers have had a GM and XG tone set. Some Disklaviers have also included a tone set called TG300B, which is really a GS voice set in disguise. I don't think that Mark IVs include that set. Regards, PianoBench
2008-10-16 by athomik