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Any interest in some high quality jazz improv?

Any interest in some high quality jazz improv?

2010-01-03 by Kevin

I'm trying to gauge interest in some "pianosoft+audio-like" jazz improv songs.

These would work on any disklavier that can play those CD audio+Midi formats.  I think that means some (all?) Mark IIIs and all MarkIVs.  Maybe others?

The "+audio" is basically jazz accompaniment.  So, think upright bass, and a drum kit.

All of these songs are played by a real live musician, with no editing, and no planning ahead...it's basically real jazz improv played from lead sheets.  I think that it is quite a bit better than the stuff that you generally run across.

Anyway, I've put together 5 samples of these for anyone who is interested to download.  I'd love to hear any and all feedback.  The files are zipped, and in the zips are WAV files.  To play these on a MarkIV, you only need to get them into your piano's FromToPC folder.  On a Mark III, you'd need to either burn the WAVs as an audio CD, or play them back on a computer plugged into the correct jacks on the piano.

This is a link to the "folder" where each of the files can be downloaded, or all can be downloaded at once.

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=354a9ad4dadcd31c4d287c5461e4af2212241d17b18db8d24eb74d8a6cde9cae

Thanks in advance for any and all feedback.


-Kevin

Re: [disklavier] Any interest in some high quality jazz improv?

2010-01-03 by Laurel Lapin

Hi Kevin,
I downloaded "Ain't Misbehavin'" and my computer opened the file in iTunes (I am running Windows XP). When iTunes played the file, there was a high pitched 'ting' half way between a ride cymbal and an electronic beep. Any ideas?
Phil in Oak Park, CA




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From: Kevin <kgoroway@...>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, January 2, 2010 5:18:41 PM
Subject: [disklavier] Any interest in some high quality jazz improv?

  
I'm trying to gauge interest in some "pianosoft+audio- like" jazz improv songs.

These would work on any disklavier that can play those CD audio+Midi formats.  I think that means some (all?) Mark IIIs and all MarkIVs.  Maybe others?

The "+audio" is basically jazz accompaniment.  So, think upright bass, and a drum kit.

All of these songs are played by a real live musician, with no editing, and no planning ahead...it's basically real jazz improv played from lead sheets.  I think that it is quite a bit better than the stuff that you generally run across.

Anyway, I've put together 5 samples of these for anyone who is interested to download.  I'd love to hear any and all feedback.  The files are zipped, and in the zips are WAV files.  To play these on a MarkIV, you only need to get them into your piano's FromToPC folder.  On a Mark III, you'd need to either burn the WAVs as an audio CD, or play them back on a computer plugged into the correct jacks on the piano.

This is a link to the "folder" where each of the files can be downloaded, or all can be downloaded at once.

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=354a9ad4dadcd31c4d287c5461e4af2212241d17b18db8d24eb74d8a6cde9cae

Thanks in advance for any and all feedback.

-Kevin

Re: [disklavier] Any interest in some high quality jazz improv?

2010-01-03 by Carol Beigel

With these CDs, the MIDI is on one track and the audio is on the other.  I think this is how the companies got around the copyright - one company put the audio on the Left channel and the MIDI data on the R, and the other company switched tracks.

iTunes does not play MIDI files.  The hum you hear is the MIDI data. These are not normal audio CDs.  If you wanted them to be, then you would need to use the proper codecs (41000Hz and 16bit).  The MIDI files would need to be run through virtual instruments to make them audio tracks, and the entire CD would need to be mastered - IF you wanted to produce an audio CD.

OR, all the files on the CD could be MIDI files with the accompaniment being MIDI files played through a tone generator.

If you really wanted to make MIDI plus audio CDs for the Disklavier, you may need to switch the L and R tracks witht he audio and MIDI.

Carol Beigel
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Laurel Lapin 
  To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [disklavier] Any interest in some high quality jazz improv?





  Hi Kevin,
  I downloaded "Ain't Misbehavin'" and my computer opened the file in iTunes (I am running Windows XP). When iTunes played the file, there was a high pitched 'ting' half way between a ride cymbal and an electronic beep. Any ideas?
  Phil in Oak Park, CA




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  From: Kevin <kgoroway@...>
  To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Sat, January 2, 2010 5:18:41 PM
  Subject: [disklavier] Any interest in some high quality jazz improv?

    
  I'm trying to gauge interest in some "pianosoft+audio- like" jazz improv songs.

  These would work on any disklavier that can play those CD audio+Midi formats. I think that means some (all?) Mark IIIs and all MarkIVs. Maybe others?

  The "+audio" is basically jazz accompaniment. So, think upright bass, and a drum kit.

  All of these songs are played by a real live musician, with no editing, and no planning ahead...it's basically real jazz improv played from lead sheets. I think that it is quite a bit better than the stuff that you generally run across.

  Anyway, I've put together 5 samples of these for anyone who is interested to download. I'd love to hear any and all feedback. The files are zipped, and in the zips are WAV files. To play these on a MarkIV, you only need to get them into your piano's FromToPC folder. On a Mark III, you'd need to either burn the WAVs as an audio CD, or play them back on a computer plugged into the correct jacks on the piano.

  This is a link to the "folder" where each of the files can be downloaded, or all can be downloaded at once.

  http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=354a9ad4dadcd31c4d287c5461e4af2212241d17b18db8d24eb74d8a6cde9cae

  Thanks in advance for any and all feedback.

  -Kevin






  
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Re: [disklavier] Any interest in some high quality jazz improv?

2010-01-03 by Spencer_Lists

Greetings Kevin,

Tried playing one of the samples on my Live Performance LX. No luck, the piano part is intermittent.
Do you know if the server is reliable? Have you downloaded the files and tried the downloaded versions?
I find these "free" services to be a real pain. Did not want to sign up for premium service. Also odd that the
WAV and zip are nearly the same size. I find that the WAVs for DKV usually compress by a factor of
about 10.

Saturday, January 2, 2010, 5:18:41 PM, you wrote:


I'm trying to gauge interest in some "pianosoft+audio-like" jazz improv songs.

These would work on any disklavier that can play those CD audio+Midi formats. I think that means some (all?) Mark IIIs and all MarkIVs. Maybe others?

The "+audio" is basically jazz accompaniment. So, think upright bass, and a drum kit.

All of these songs are played by a real live musician, with no editing, and no planning ahead...it's basically real jazz improv played from lead sheets. I think that it is quite a bit better than the stuff that you generally run across.

Anyway, I've put together 5 samples of these for anyone who is interested to download. I'd love to hear any and all feedback. The files are zipped, and in the zips are WAV files. To play these on a MarkIV, you only need to get them into your piano's FromToPC folder. On a Mark III, you'd need to either burn the WAVs as an audio CD, or play them back on a computer plugged into the correct jacks on the piano.

This is a link to the "folder" where each of the files can be downloaded, or all can be downloaded at once.

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=354a9ad4dadcd31c4d287c5461e4af2212241d17b18db8d24eb74d8a6cde9cae

Thanks in advance for any and all feedback.

-Kevin



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Re: [disklavier] Any interest in some high quality jazz improv?

2010-01-03 by Kevin Goroway

No, these audio tracks are made to be played on a Disklavier...not via iTunes, or anything else. iTunes happily plays them because they are in a standard audio format (that the piano also happens to want).

If you played them back on your Disklavier, you would hear the audio tracks just fine, and the high pitched sound on the other channel would be absorbed by the piano.  The piano uses that information to actually *play* the piano keys along with the background accompaniment.


As Carol says, other piano manufacturers have different encoding schemes.  I could also produce sample files for those pianos, but I started here since I *know* what they sound like on my Disklavier (DC3M4t).

Please follow the instructions in my earlier email to play them back on
your piano.  I can see that the files have been downloaded numerous
times, so I'd love to hear any opinions.

Thanks!




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From: Carol Beigel <thecarolb@...>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, January 3, 2010 12:10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Any interest in some high quality jazz improv?

  
 
With these CDs, the MIDI is on one track and the audio is 
on the other.  I think this is how the companies got around the copyright - 
one company put the audio on the Left channel and the MIDI data on the R, and 
the other company switched tracks.
 
iTunes does not play MIDI files.  The hum you hear is 
the MIDI data. These are not normal audio CDs.  If you wanted them to be, 
then you would need to use the proper codecs (41000Hz and 16bit).  The MIDI 
files would need to be run through virtual instruments to make them audio 
tracks, and the entire CD would need to be mastered - IF you wanted to produce 
an audio CD.
 
OR, all the files on the CD could be MIDI files with the 
accompaniment being MIDI files played through a tone generator.
 
If you really wanted to make MIDI plus audio CDs for the 
Disklavier, you may need to switch the L and R tracks witht he audio and 
MIDI.
 
Carol Beigel
 
 
 
----- Original Message ----- 
>From: Laurel 
>  Lapin 
>To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com 
>Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:58 
>  PM
>Subject: Re: [disklavier] Any interest in 
>  some high quality jazz improv?
>
>
>Hi Kevin,
>I downloaded "Ain't Misbehavin'" and my computer opened the 
>  file in iTunes (I am running Windows XP). When iTunes played the file, there 
>  was a high pitched 'ting' half way between a ride cymbal and an electronic 
>  beep. Any ideas?
>Phil in Oak Park, CA
>
>
>
>
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 From: Kevin <kgoroway@yahoo. com>
>To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
>Sent: Sat, January 2, 2010 5:18:41 
>  PM
>Subject: [disklavier] Any 
>  interest in some high quality jazz improv?
>
>  
>I'm trying to gauge interest in some "pianosoft+audio- like" jazz improv 
>  songs.
>
>These would work on any disklavier that can play those CD 
>  audio+Midi formats. I think that means some (all?) Mark IIIs and all MarkIVs. 
>  Maybe others?
>
>The "+audio" is basically jazz accompaniment. So, think 
>  upright bass, and a drum kit.
>
>All of these songs are played by a real 
>  live musician, with no editing, and no planning ahead...it's basically real 
>  jazz improv played from lead sheets. I think that it is quite a bit better 
>  than the stuff that you generally run across.
>
>Anyway, I've put together 
>  5 samples of these for anyone who is interested to download. I'd love to hear 
>  any and all feedback. The files are zipped, and in the zips are WAV files. To 
>  play these on a MarkIV, you only need to get them into your piano's FromToPC 
>  folder. On a Mark III, you'd need to either burn the WAVs as an audio CD, or 
>  play them back on a computer plugged into the correct jacks on the 
>  piano.
>
>This is a link to the "folder" where each of the files can be 
>  downloaded, or all can be downloaded at once.
>
>http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=354a9ad4dadcd31c4d287c5461e4af2212241d17b18db8d24eb74d8a6cde9cae
>
>Thanks 
>  in advance for any and all 
>  feedback.
>
>-Kevin
>
>
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>Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com 
>Version: 8.0.406 / Virus Database: 271.14.123/2593 - Release Date: 12/29/2009 7:14 PM
>

Re: Any interest in some high quality jazz improv?

2010-01-03 by Joan

They sound pretty nice on my DC7M4 too!


--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin" <kgoroway@...> wrote:
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>
> I'm trying to gauge interest in some "pianosoft+audio-like" jazz improv songs.
> 
> These would work on any disklavier that can play those CD audio+Midi formats.  I think that means some (all?) Mark IIIs and all MarkIVs.  Maybe others?
> 
> The "+audio" is basically jazz accompaniment.  So, think upright bass, and a drum kit.
> 
> All of these songs are played by a real live musician, with no editing, and no planning ahead...it's basically real jazz improv played from lead sheets.  I think that it is quite a bit better than the stuff that you generally run across.
> 
> Anyway, I've put together 5 samples of these for anyone who is interested to download.  I'd love to hear any and all feedback.  The files are zipped, and in the zips are WAV files.  To play these on a MarkIV, you only need to get them into your piano's FromToPC folder.  On a Mark III, you'd need to either burn the WAVs as an audio CD, or play them back on a computer plugged into the correct jacks on the piano.
> 
> This is a link to the "folder" where each of the files can be downloaded, or all can be downloaded at once.
> 
> http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=354a9ad4dadcd31c4d287c5461e4af2212241d17b18db8d24eb74d8a6cde9cae
> 
> Thanks in advance for any and all feedback.
> 
> 
> -Kevin
>

Re: [disklavier] Any interest in some high quality jazz improv?

2010-01-03 by Phil Blah

Hello Spencer,

I thought you would know this :) as they are .zip files they won't extract unless the CRC is 100%. So if it extracts at your end then the file is 100% perfect. If the server was giving bad packets/data then you would certainly know about it... Using .zip is the best method for this reason.  

Also the files won't compress much as zip is pattern based and losless, so PCM Audio is virtually hard to compress using standard .zip format. A 256 MP3's would be nice, but it would prob bust up the midi overlay for sure.

My Mark4 played them fine.

Cheers,

Philip





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From: Spencer_Lists <lists@...>
To: Kevin <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, 3 January, 2010 4:12:52 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Any interest in some high quality jazz improv?

  
Greetings Kevin,

Tried playing one of the samples on my Live Performance LX. No luck, the piano part is intermittent. 
Do you know if the server is reliable? Have you downloaded the files and tried the downloaded versions?
I find these "free" services to be a real pain. Did not want to sign up for premium service. Also odd that the 
WAV and zip are nearly the same size. I find that the WAVs for DKV usually compress by a factor of 
about 10. 

Saturday, January 2, 2010, 5:18:41 PM, you wrote: 
 

   
I'm trying to gauge interest in some "pianosoft+audio- like" jazz improv songs.

These would work on any disklavier that can play those CD audio+Midi formats. I think that means some (all?) Mark IIIs and all MarkIVs. Maybe others?

The "+audio" is basically jazz accompaniment. So, think upright bass, and a drum kit.

All of these songs are played by a real live musician, with no editing, and no planning ahead...it's basically real jazz improv played from lead sheets.. I think that it is quite a bit better than the stuff that you generally run across.

Anyway, I've put together 5 samples of these for anyone who is interested to download. I'd love to hear any and all feedback. The files are zipped, and in the zips are WAV files. To play these on a MarkIV, you only need to get them into your piano's FromToPC folder. On a Mark III, you'd need to either burn the WAVs as an audio CD, or play them back on a computer plugged into the correct jacks on the piano.

This is a link to the "folder" where each of the files can be downloaded, or all can be downloaded at once.

http://www.mediafir e.com/?sharekey= 354a9ad4dadcd31c 4d287c5461e4af22 12241d17b18db8d2 4eb74d8a6cde9cae

Thanks in advance for any and all feedback.

-Kevin

  

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 mailto:lists@ spencerserolls. com 
67550 Bell Springs Rd. 
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. 
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@spencersero lls.com 
http://www.spencers erolls.com 
(707) 984-8356 
(707) 972-3149
 


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Re: [disklavier] Any interest in some high quality jazz improv?

2010-01-03 by George Kopeczky

Yepp... if the MIDI on MIDI+audio mixed format PianoSoft CD's would be only Mac/PC recognizable, I wouldn't have two big boxful's of such discs sitting around, waiting for a program that will let me read & study them.

Luckily the MIDI-only ones work fine.

George

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No, these audio tracks are made to be played on a Disklavier.. .not via iTunes, or anything else.

Re: [disklavier] Any interest in some high quality jazz improv?

2010-01-03 by Phil Blah

Hey Kevin,

Yes I am interested in these songs for sure. Nothing better than raw, warm, heart filling jazz! 

Anyway, they sound great, I can however notice the piano in the background, I suppose it's hard to have that completly isiolated from the recording without having the piano far away from each mic on the base/drums and or each band memeber in a recording cell. 

On the song "In you're own sweet way" I noticed a slight - funny sort of reverb but it's more of an pipe echo, it also reminds me of a low res MP3 compression artifact noise but it seems to fade in and out.. but this is common if you listen carfully to some other .wave audio on the Mark4 for some reason, some songs are worse than others.. 

Where did these come from?

Cheers,

Philip





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From: Kevin <kgoroway@yahoo.com>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 3 January, 2010 12:18:41 PM
Subject: [disklavier] Any interest in some high quality jazz improv?

  
I'm trying to gauge interest in some "pianosoft+audio- like" jazz improv songs.

These would work on any disklavier that can play those CD audio+Midi formats.  I think that means some (all?) Mark IIIs and all MarkIVs.  Maybe others?

The "+audio" is basically jazz accompaniment.  So, think upright bass, and a drum kit..

All of these songs are played by a real live musician, with no editing, and no planning ahead...it's basically real jazz improv played from lead sheets.  I think that it is quite a bit better than the stuff that you generally run across.

Anyway, I've put together 5 samples of these for anyone who is interested to download.  I'd love to hear any and all feedback..  The files are zipped, and in the zips are WAV files.  To play these on a MarkIV, you only need to get them into your piano's FromToPC folder.  On a Mark III, you'd need to either burn the WAVs as an audio CD, or play them back on a computer plugged into the correct jacks on the piano.

This is a link to the "folder" where each of the files can be downloaded, or all can be downloaded at once.

http://www.mediafir e.com/?sharekey= 354a9ad4dadcd31c 4d287c5461e4af22 12241d17b18db8d2 4eb74d8a6cde9cae

Thanks in advance for any and all feedback.

-Kevin


 


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Re: [disklavier] Any interest in some high quality jazz improv?

2010-01-04 by Kevin Goroway

Phil,

The other piano you hear is intentional.  It isn't an acoustic, it's an electronic piano and the blending of the sounds is something we were looking for...including the reverb effect.

I'm producing them myself along with the musician.

Glad you liked them!  And thanks for the feedback...It helps!

-Kevin




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From: Phil Blah <phil.blah@...>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, January 3, 2010 6:53:02 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Any interest in some high quality jazz improv?

  
Hey Kevin,

Yes I am interested in these songs for sure. Nothing better than raw, warm, heart filling jazz! 

Anyway, they sound great, I can however notice the piano in the background, I suppose it's hard to have that completly isiolated from the recording without having the piano far away from each mic on the base/drums and or each band memeber in a recording cell. 

On the song "In you're own sweet way" I noticed a slight - funny sort of reverb but it's more of an pipe echo, it also reminds me of a low res MP3 compression artifact noise but it seems to fade in and out.. but this is common if you listen carfully to some other .wave audio on the Mark4 for some reason, some songs are worse than others.. 

Where did these come from?

Cheers,

Philip





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From: Kevin <kgoroway@yahoo. com>
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Sun, 3 January, 2010 12:18:41 PM
Subject: [disklavier] Any interest in some high quality jazz improv?

  
I'm trying to gauge interest in some "pianosoft+audio- like" jazz improv songs.

These would work on any disklavier that can play those CD audio+Midi formats.  I think that means some (all?) Mark IIIs and all MarkIVs.  Maybe others?

The "+audio" is basically jazz accompaniment.  So, think upright bass, and a drum kit.

All of these songs are played by a real live musician, with no editing, and no planning ahead...it's basically real jazz improv played from lead sheets.  I think that it is quite a bit better than the stuff that you generally run across.

Anyway, I've put together 5 samples of these for anyone who is interested to download.  I'd love to hear any and all feedback.  The files are zipped, and in the zips are WAV files.  To play these on a MarkIV, you only need to get them into your piano's FromToPC folder.  On a Mark III, you'd need to either burn the WAVs as an audio CD, or play them back on a computer plugged into the correct jacks on the piano.

This is a link to the "folder" where each of the files can be downloaded, or all can be downloaded at once.

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=354a9ad4dadcd31c4d287c5461e4af2212241d17b18db8d24eb74d8a6cde9cae

Thanks in advance for any and all feedback.

-Kevin


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Re: [disklavier] Any interest in some high quality jazz improv?

2010-01-04 by Phil Blah

Hey Kevin,

I was actually going to ask if it was an electronic piano, I first was thinking that you had a duplicate track and the built in synth was playing. I can tell a fake piano a mile away lol.

Why would you want to do this? it's great to know that the only piano is 'your own real one' and I think that's the beauty of live playing... I normally hate when you have a Musicsoft+Audio and the piano is just played over the top of the real one... also even if you have everything in 'tune' 2 pianos doing the same notes will always be slightly off.. 

Anyway they are cool, well done!

Just for the fun of feedback...since you and your muician are doing this, perhaps each song could have just a little solo for a 20 or 40 seconds just to break up the song a bit.. even a base solo would be cool ;-)

Cheers,

Philip





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From: Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@...>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 4 January, 2010 11:10:25 AM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Any interest in some high quality jazz improv?

  
Phil,

The other piano you hear is intentional.  It isn't an acoustic, it's an electronic piano and the blending of the sounds is something we were looking for...including the reverb effect.

I'm producing them myself along with the musician.

Glad you liked them!  And thanks for the feedback...It helps!

-Kevin




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From: Phil Blah <phil.blah@yahoo. com>
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Sun, January 3, 2010 6:53:02 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Any interest in some high quality jazz improv?

  
Hey Kevin,

Yes I am interested in these songs for sure. Nothing better than raw, warm, heart filling jazz! 

Anyway, they sound great, I can however notice the piano in the background, I suppose it's hard to have that completly isiolated from the recording without having the piano far away from each mic on the base/drums and or each band memeber in a recording cell. 

On the song "In you're own sweet way" I noticed a slight - funny sort of reverb but it's more of an pipe echo, it also reminds me of a low res MP3 compression artifact noise but it seems to fade in and out.. but this is common if you listen carfully to some other .wave audio on the Mark4 for some reason, some songs are worse than others.. 

Where did these come from?

Cheers,

Philip





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From: Kevin <kgoroway@yahoo. com>
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Sun, 3 January, 2010 12:18:41 PM
Subject: [disklavier] Any interest in some high quality jazz improv?

  
I'm trying to gauge interest in some "pianosoft+audio- like" jazz improv songs.

These would work on any disklavier that can play those CD audio+Midi formats.  I think that means some (all?) Mark IIIs and all MarkIVs.  Maybe others?

The "+audio" is basically jazz accompaniment.  So, think upright bass, and a drum kit.

All of these songs are played by a real live musician, with no editing, and no planning ahead...it's basically real jazz improv played from lead sheets.  I think that it is quite a bit better than the stuff that you generally run across.

Anyway, I've put together 5 samples of these for anyone who is interested to download.  I'd love to hear any and all feedback.  The files are zipped, and in the zips are WAV files.  To play these on a MarkIV, you only need to get them into your piano's FromToPC folder.  On a Mark III, you'd need to either burn the WAVs as an audio CD, or play them back on a computer plugged into the correct jacks on the piano.

This is a link to the "folder" where each of the files can be downloaded, or all can be downloaded at once.

http://www.mediafir e.com/?sharekey= 354a9ad4dadcd31c 4d287c5461e4af22 12241d17b18db8d2 4eb74d8a6cde9cae

Thanks in advance for any and all feedback.

-Kevin


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Re: [disklavier] Any interest in some high quality jazz improv?

2010-01-04 by Kevin Goroway

The question of "why" it was done this way is a bit convoluted.  As it turns out, the first cut was done this way just because it was simpler.  After hearing the outcome, the musician felt that it really added a lot to the piano's sound...it made it more "interesting".  I agree that many times the pure piano sound is all that is required.  But, for now, this is the way it is...I'll see if I can create some without the backing electronic piano, but I don't know if it'll fly with the musician...  We never encountered the tuning issue...maybe it's because I have my piano tuned so often?  But it certainly could be an issue.

As far as solos go...I arbitrarily decided to cut most of these tracks at around 30 seconds (to keep the file sizes small).  There are certainly some piano solos, and a whole lot of short piano runs or licks.  Some of the other tracks also have horn sections which often play off of the piano...I didn't include any of those in this pass.  I'll discuss this with the musician and see if we can release a whole track.

Thanks for the feedback again, this is exactly what I'm looking for...Anyone else care to chime in?  

-Kevin




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From: Phil Blah <phil.blah@...>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, January 3, 2010 7:25:07 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Any interest in some high quality jazz improv?

  
Hey Kevin,

I was actually going to ask if it was an electronic piano, I first was thinking that you had a duplicate track and the built in synth was playing. I can tell a fake piano a mile away lol.

Why would you want to do this? it's great to know that the only piano is 'your own real one' and I think that's the beauty of live playing... I normally hate when you have a Musicsoft+Audio and the piano is just played over the top of the real one... also even if you have everything in 'tune' 2 pianos doing the same notes will always be slightly off.. 

Anyway they are cool, well done!

Just for the fun of feedback...since you and your muician are doing this, perhaps each song could have just a little solo for a 20 or 40 seconds just to break up the song a bit.. even a base solo would be cool ;-)

Cheers,

Philip





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From: Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@yahoo. com>
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Mon, 4 January, 2010 11:10:25 AM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Any interest in some high quality jazz improv?

  
Phil,

The other piano you hear is intentional.  It isn't an acoustic, it's an electronic piano and the blending of the sounds is something we were looking for...including the reverb effect.

I'm producing them myself along with the musician.

Glad you liked them!  And thanks for the feedback...It helps!

-Kevin




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From: Phil Blah <phil.blah@yahoo. com>
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Sun, January 3, 2010 6:53:02 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Any interest in some high quality jazz improv?

  
Hey Kevin,

Yes I am interested in these songs for sure. Nothing better than raw, warm, heart filling jazz! 

Anyway, they sound great, I can however notice the piano in the background, I suppose it's hard to have that completly isiolated from the recording without having the piano far away from each mic on the base/drums and or each band memeber in a recording cell. 

On the song "In you're own sweet way" I noticed a slight - funny sort of reverb but it's more of an pipe echo, it also reminds me of a low res MP3 compression artifact noise but it seems to fade in and out.. but this is common if you listen carfully to some other .wave audio on the Mark4 for some reason, some songs are worse than others.. 

Where did these come from?

Cheers,

Philip





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From: Kevin <kgoroway@yahoo. com>
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Sun, 3 January, 2010 12:18:41 PM
Subject: [disklavier] Any interest in some high quality jazz improv?

  
I'm trying to gauge interest in some "pianosoft+audio- like" jazz improv songs.

These would work on any disklavier that can play those CD audio+Midi formats.  I think that means some (all?) Mark IIIs and all MarkIVs.  Maybe others?

The "+audio" is basically jazz accompaniment.  So, think upright bass, and a drum kit.

All of these songs are played by a real live musician, with no editing, and no planning ahead...it's basically real jazz improv played from lead sheets.  I think that it is quite a bit better than the stuff that you generally run across.

Anyway, I've put together 5 samples of these for anyone who is interested to download.  I'd love to hear any and all feedback.  The files are zipped, and in the zips are WAV files.  To play these on a MarkIV, you only need to get them into your piano's FromToPC folder.  On a Mark III, you'd need to either burn the WAVs as an audio CD, or play them back on a computer plugged into the correct jacks on the piano.

This is a link to the "folder" where each of the files can be downloaded, or all can be downloaded at once.

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=354a9ad4dadcd31c4d287c5461e4af2212241d17b18db8d24eb74d8a6cde9cae

Thanks in advance for any and all feedback.

-Kevin


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Re: [disklavier] Any interest in some high quality jazz improv?

2010-01-06 by Kevin Goroway

The files download perfectly...They just aren't formatted for the LX.  I'm surprised that they play at all!

I expected better compression as well...not sure what went wrong there...




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From: Spencer_Lists <lists@...>
To: Kevin <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, January 3, 2010 12:12:52 AM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Any interest in some high quality jazz improv?

   
Greetings Kevin,

Tried playing one of the samples on my Live Performance LX. No luck, the piano part is intermittent. 
Do you know if the server is reliable? Have you downloaded the files and tried the downloaded versions?
I find these "free" services to be a real pain. Did not want to sign up for premium service. Also odd that the 
WAV and zip are nearly the same size. I find that the WAVs for DKV usually compress by a factor of 
about 10. 

Saturday, January 2, 2010, 5:18:41 PM, you wrote: 
 

   
I'm trying to gauge interest in some "pianosoft+audio- like" jazz improv songs.

These would work on any disklavier that can play those CD audio+Midi formats. I think that means some (all?) Mark IIIs and all MarkIVs. Maybe others?

The "+audio" is basically jazz accompaniment. So, think upright bass, and a drum kit.

All of these songs are played by a real live musician, with no editing, and no planning ahead...it's basically real jazz improv played from lead sheets. I think that it is quite a bit better than the stuff that you generally run across.

Anyway, I've put together 5 samples of these for anyone who is interested to download. I'd love to hear any and all feedback. The files are zipped, and in the zips are WAV files. To play these on a MarkIV, you only need to get them into your piano's FromToPC folder. On a Mark III, you'd need to either burn the WAVs as an audio CD, or play them back on a computer plugged into the correct jacks on the piano.

This is a link to the "folder" where each of the files can be downloaded, or all can be downloaded at once.

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=354a9ad4dadcd31c4d287c5461e4af2212241d17b18db8d24eb74d8a6cde9cae

Thanks in advance for any and all feedback.

-Kevin

  

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Re: [disklavier] Any interest in some high quality jazz improv?

2010-01-06 by Mark Fontana

The poor compression is due to the accompaniment track... in general,
PCM audio just doesn't compress well with ZIP (LZ algorithm), which is
why codecs like MP3, FLAC, AAC etc. were developed.

But Disklavier CD tracks *without* accompaniment compress fairly well
with ZIP due to repeating patterns in how the MIDI stream is encoded.

Mark Fontana

P.S. The LX was able to play this material because it supports
Disklavier, PianoDisc, Pianocorder and QRS formats in addition to its
own.
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On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 17:05 -0800, Kevin Goroway wrote:
> 
> The files download perfectly...They just aren't formatted for the LX.
> I'm surprised that they play at all!
> 
> I expected better compression as well...not sure what went wrong
> there...

Re: [disklavier] Any interest in some high quality jazz improv?

2010-01-06 by Spencer_Lists

Greetings Kevin,

My LX plays other DKV/audio files perfectly. I rarely listen to them
and only tested your file with a crappy amplified computer speaker,
not a good stereo which is in another room. I found the acoustic piano
to be very choppy, going on and off with no real relationship to the
accomp. It might sound better with a higher volume from the accomp.
Why is most of the piano a digital piano on the accomp and only
scattered real piano? I thought the idea of a disklavier was to sound
like a piano? Personally, I would like all the piano to be acoustic. I
just don't understand the reason for the accomp piano.

I think you can get better compression with LZMA compression than with
zip. I was expecting better compression because I compress piano only
files not piano with accomp. Since the accomp and piano alternate in
the WAV file it makes sense as Mark suggests that the compression
would be less.

Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 5:05:22 PM, you wrote: >
> The files download perfectly...They just aren't formatted for the
> LX.  I'm surprised that they play at all!

> I expected better compression as well...not sure what went wrong there...

> From: Spencer_Lists <lists@spencerserolls.com>
> To: Kevin <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sun, January 3, 2010 12:12:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Any interest in some high quality jazz improv?

>   

> Greetings Kevin,

> Tried playing one of the samples on my Live Performance LX. No
> luck, the piano part is intermittent. 
> Do you know if the server is reliable? Have you downloaded the
> files and tried the downloaded versions?
> I find these "free" services to be a real pain. Did not want to
> sign up for premium service. Also odd that the 
> WAV and zip are nearly the same size. I find that the WAVs for DKV usually compress by a factor of
> about 10. 

> Saturday, January 2, 2010, 5:18:41 PM, you wrote: 

>   
> I'm trying to gauge interest in some "pianosoft+audio- like" jazz improv songs.

> These would work on any disklavier that can play those CD
> audio+Midi formats. I think that means some (all?) Mark IIIs and all MarkIVs. Maybe others?

> The "+audio" is basically jazz accompaniment. So, think upright bass, and a drum kit.

> All of these songs are played by a real live musician, with no
> editing, and no planning ahead...it's basically real jazz improv
> played from lead sheets. I think that it is quite a bit better than
> the stuff that you generally run across.

> Anyway, I've put together 5 samples of these for anyone who is
> interested to download. I'd love to hear any and all feedback. The
> files are zipped, and in the zips are WAV files. To play these on a
> MarkIV, you only need to get them into your piano's FromToPC folder.
> On a Mark III, you'd need to either burn the WAVs as an audio CD, or
> play them back on a computer plugged into the correct jacks on the piano.

> This is a link to the "folder" where each of the files can be
> downloaded, or all can be downloaded at once.

> http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=354a9ad4dadcd31c4d287c5461e4af2212241d17b18db8d24eb74d8a6cde9cae

> Thanks in advance for any and all feedback.

> -Kevin

>  

> -- Best regards,
>  mailto:lists@ spencerserolls. com 
> 67550 Bell Springs Rd. 
> Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. 
> Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
> Spencer@spencersero lls.com 
> http://www.spencerserolls.com 
> (707) 984-8356 
> (707) 972-3149

> 
 

-- Best regards,
 mailto:lists@... 
67550 Bell Springs Rd. 
Garberville,CA 95542 Postal service only. 
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@spencerserolls.com 
http://www.spencerserolls.com 
(707) 984-8356 
(707) 972-3149

Re: [disklavier] Any interest in some high quality jazz improv?

2010-01-06 by Kevin Goroway

I don't understand why it doesn't play on the LX correctly if the LX is supposed to support these file types.  I think Mark is probably in the best situation to say why that is the case!

Anyway, it certainly isn't "all choppy" on a Disklavier...And the acoustic/accompaniment balance is set perfectly to play back on a Disklavier in its "reset" volume configuration. 

As for compression...I'm not terribly concerned right now since these were just samples.  If there had been more interest, I was going to produce a large number of these in native formats for all player pianos, arranged as albums to sell for whatever price the market demanded ...but that just doesn't seem to be the case.  

I think I could talk the artist out of the electronic piano sound that he really likes backing the acoustic piano, but if no one wants this music anyway, I get to avoid that delicate conversation. :-)

-Kevin



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From: Spencer_Lists <lists@spencerserolls.com>
To: Kevin Goroway <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 9:05:32 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Any interest in some high quality jazz improv?

  
Greetings Kevin,

My LX plays other DKV/audio files perfectly. I rarely listen to them
and only tested your file with a crappy amplified computer speaker,
not a good stereo which is in another room. I found the acoustic piano
to be very choppy, going on and off with no real relationship to the
accomp. It might sound better with a higher volume from the accomp.
Why is most of the piano a digital piano on the accomp and only
scattered real piano? I thought the idea of a disklavier was to sound
like a piano? Personally, I would like all the piano to be acoustic. I
just don't understand the reason for the accomp piano.

I think you can get better compression with LZMA compression than with
zip. I was expecting better compression because I compress piano only
files not piano with accomp. Since the accomp and piano alternate in
the WAV file it makes sense as Mark suggests that the compression
would be less.

Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 5:05:22 PM, you wrote: >
> The files download perfectly... They just aren't formatted for the
> LX.  I'm surprised that they play at all!

> I expected better compression as well...not sure what went wrong there...

> From: Spencer_Lists <lists@spencerseroll s.com>
> To: Kevin <disklavier@yahoogro ups.com>
> Sent: Sun, January 3, 2010 12:12:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Any interest in some high quality jazz improv?

> 

> Greetings Kevin,

> Tried playing one of the samples on my Live Performance LX. No
> luck, the piano part is intermittent. 
> Do you know if the server is reliable? Have you downloaded the
> files and tried the downloaded versions?
> I find these "free" services to be a real pain. Did not want to
> sign up for premium service. Also odd that the 
> WAV and zip are nearly the same size. I find that the WAVs for DKV usually compress by a factor of
> about 10. 

> Saturday, January 2, 2010, 5:18:41 PM, you wrote: 

> 
> I'm trying to gauge interest in some "pianosoft+audio- like" jazz improv songs.

> These would work on any disklavier that can play those CD
> audio+Midi formats. I think that means some (all?) Mark IIIs and all MarkIVs. Maybe others?

> The "+audio" is basically jazz accompaniment. So, think upright bass, and a drum kit.

> All of these songs are played by a real live musician, with no
> editing, and no planning ahead...it's basically real jazz improv
> played from lead sheets. I think that it is quite a bit better than
> the stuff that you generally run across.

> Anyway, I've put together 5 samples of these for anyone who is
> interested to download. I'd love to hear any and all feedback. The
> files are zipped, and in the zips are WAV files. To play these on a
> MarkIV, you only need to get them into your piano's FromToPC folder.
> On a Mark III, you'd need to either burn the WAVs as an audio CD, or
> play them back on a computer plugged into the correct jacks on the piano.

> This is a link to the "folder" where each of the files can be
> downloaded, or all can be downloaded at once.

> http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=354a9ad4dadcd31c4d287c5461e4af2212241d17b18db8d24eb74d8a6cde9cae

> Thanks in advance for any and all feedback.

> -Kevin

> 

> -- Best regards,
>  mailto:lists@ spencerserolls. com 
> 67550 Bell Springs Rd. 
> Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. 
> Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
> Spencer@spencersero lls.com 
> http://www.spencerserolls.com 
> (707) 984-8356 
> (707) 972-3149

> 


-- Best regards,
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67550 Bell Springs Rd. 
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. 
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@spencersero lls.com 
http://www.spencers erolls.com 
(707) 984-8356 
(707) 972-3149

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