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2001-05-22 by Larry McKenzie

In order to give the group a little bit of new direction, not that the group 
has been boring, fut for something different I have attached a midi file 
which I found on the internet.  I can't even remember where i got it or I 
sould give proper credit.  In the future I will send a URL with any files I 
include.  I hope to do this at least once a week.

For the first one I am attaching a file called Bumble.  It is a piano only 
boogie piano version of flight of the Bumblebee.  Enjoy!!!
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RE: [disklavier] (unknown)

2001-05-22 by Meyers and Rifkin

The arrangement is by a pianist called JACK FINA previously with the Freddie
Martin Orchestra.

DM.

Re: [disklavier] (unknown)

2002-01-12 by Kendell

DAT (Digital Audio Tape)  is audio.  Midi and Audio are totally different things and not meant to get confused.    Think of midi as a keystroke on your computer keyboard..  when you type a letter it tells the computer to print out a k on your computer screen----like wise with
midi......let's say when you type a k---it triggers the soundcard (in your diklavier / computer soundcard / sequencer, etc.) and plays the correct pitch....  In other words your sound card is translating the sound / taking care of the audio end of things.    Conclusion:  You are
going to have to re play every track on your dat tape over again into your disklavier // using your disklavier or keyboard and then saving it as a mid file.........

Kendell Healy
KLH Production Studios, llc.
Owner / Composer
ps.  Midi can be transformed into audio but not the other way around

allanz_2000 wrote:
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> Hello,
> I have a piano files in dat format.Anybody who knows how to convert
> it to mid files or eseq files. Thanks
>
>
> To Post a message to the group, send it to:   disklavier@...
>
> To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and moderator, send it to:
> disklavier-owner@...
>
> To reach our group's web site go to:
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>
> Todd's family web site was completely rewritten in June 2001 and contains some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among other things, The url is:
> http://MuncyFamily.com
>
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Re: [disklavier] (unknown)

2002-01-12 by Mark A. Fontana

Oh c'mon, I don't think he meant Digital Audio Tape. He probably meant
some file format with the extension ".dat". I'm afraid I don't know what
type of files those are, though.

Allan, if you email me one of the files you're trying to convert, I'll be
happy to check it out and see if I can figure out what it is. If you can
tell us where you got it (or what device created it) that would help too.
Show quoted textHide quoted text
On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Kendell wrote:

> DAT (Digital Audio Tape)  is audio.  Midi and Audio are totally different things and not meant to get confused.    Think of midi as a keystroke on your computer keyboard..  when you type a letter it tells the computer to print out a k on your computer screen----like wise with
> midi......let's say when you type a k---it triggers the soundcard (in your diklavier / computer soundcard / sequencer, etc.) and plays the correct pitch....  In other words your sound card is translating the sound / taking care of the audio end of things.    Conclusion:  You are
> going to have to re play every track on your dat tape over again into your disklavier // using your disklavier or keyboard and then saving it as a mid file.........
>
> Kendell Healy


> allanz_2000 wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > I have a piano files in dat format.Anybody who knows how to convert
> > it to mid files or eseq files. Thanks

Re: [disklavier] (unknown)

2002-01-12 by Carol Beigel

Perhaps you need a Giebler utility from www.giebler.com
He makes utility programs to convert Disklaver, PianoDisc and Kawai formats 
to MIDI.

Carol Beigel


>From: "allanz_2000" <aaz29@...>
>Reply-To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
>To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [disklavier] (unknown)
>Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 12:42:22 -0000
>
>Thanks Guys. I got this dd disk from Kawai Piano Player Disk. Its all
>in .dat extension format. I can't play it in my computer. The
>original disk can't even be read by my pc. Then  I copied it using
>dkvcopy and now it can be recognized by my computer but the problem
>is its format w/c is entirely different. Thanks again for any help.
>Allanz
>


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Re: (unknown)

2002-01-14 by allanz_2000

Carol,
Thanks for your reply regarding Kawai diskette. I have visit gieblers 
site but I think they only sell programs to residents of USA. How can 
I acquire this program here in the Philippines.Thanks again Carol.
--- In disklavier@y..., "Carol Beigel" <carolrpt@h...> wrote:
> Perhaps you need a Giebler utility from www.giebler.com
> He makes utility programs to convert Disklaver, PianoDisc and Kawai 
formats 
> to MIDI.
> 
> Carol Beigel
> 
> 
> >From: "allanz_2000" <aaz29@h...>
> >Reply-To: disklavier@y...
> >To: disklavier@y...
> >Subject: [disklavier] (unknown)
> >Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 12:42:22 -0000
> >
> >Thanks Guys. I got this dd disk from Kawai Piano Player Disk. Its 
all
> >in .dat extension format. I can't play it in my computer. The
> >original disk can't even be read by my pc. Then  I copied it using
> >dkvcopy and now it can be recognized by my computer but the problem
> >is its format w/c is entirely different. Thanks again for any help.
> >Allanz
> >
> 
> 
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Re: [disklavier] Re: (unknown)

2002-01-14 by Jihem

Hello,

allanz_2000 wrote:

>  I have visit gieblers
> site but I think they only sell programs to residents of USA.

No problem. I'm living in France and I bought one of their programs 3 years ago, just giving them a phone call and telling them my Visa card number. I received the disk about one week later and it works perfectly, in DOS mode as someone wrote. Not sure it's compatible with
Windows 2000 or more recent...

Best regards.

Jihem
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Re: [disklavier] (unknown)

2002-04-09 by Robert Welcyng

Suggest you contact Mark Wisner, Piano Service, Yamaha Corporation, 
mwisner@... or at 800 854 1569.  The last person on the list with 
that symptom had a broken disk drive.  Usually disk drives are changed 
out by an RPT with Disklavier training, although I'll bet you are 
capable.  One sure way to break a disk drive read head is to insert a 
disk upside down.



Edward Toughlian wrote:

> I own a disklavier piano that I purchased in 1996. The control unit (DKC5R) 
> stopped recognizing my disks (the error reads unformatted disk). This is 
> true of all purchased disks as well as disks I have formatted myself. Is 
> this unit worth repairing and if so who can I get to do it. Or am I better 
> off upgrading, and if so to which unit, how much will it cost, and where can 
> I get one?
> 
> Thanks
> Ed
> 
> 
> 
> _________________________________________________________________
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> To Post a message to the group, send it to:   disklavier@...
> 
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> disklavier-owner@...
> 
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> 
> Todd's family web site was completely rewritten in June 2001 and contains some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among other things, The url is:
> http://MuncyFamily.com
> 
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> If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail, go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead.  That will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group.  If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to:
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> 
> 
> 
> 


-- 
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Anchorage, Alaska

Re: [disklavier] (unknown)

2002-04-10 by Carol Beigel

You probably need a new floppy disk drive.  Call your Disklavier technician. 
  The DSR1 upgrade would probably be very beneficial to you.  Better check 
with your local dealer for prices.  My rough guestimates are at least $300 
to repair the floppy, and perhaps $1200 or less for the DSR1 - but those are 
only ballpark GUESSES.

Carol Beigel


>From: "Edward Toughlian" <etoughlian@...>
>Reply-To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
>To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [disklavier] (unknown)
>Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 18:36:57 -0400
>
>I own a disklavier piano that I purchased in 1996. The control unit (DKC5R)
>stopped recognizing my disks (the error reads unformatted disk). This is
>true of all purchased disks as well as disks I have formatted myself. Is
>this unit worth repairing and if so who can I get to do it. Or am I better
>off upgrading, and if so to which unit, how much will it cost, and where 
>can
>I get one?
>
>Thanks
>Ed
>
>
>
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Re: [disklavier] (unknown)

2002-04-10 by PianoBench@aol.com

Good morning, everyone.

In a message dated 4/9/02 6:38:22 PM, Ed writes:

<< I own a disklavier piano that I purchased in 1996. The control unit 
(DKC5R) 
stopped recognizing my disks (the error reads unformatted disk). This is 
true of all purchased disks as well as disks I have formatted myself. Is 
this unit worth repairing and if so who can I get to do it. Or am I better 
off upgrading, and if so to which unit, how much will it cost, and where can 
I get one? >>

Your Disklavier is called the MX80 series. In my opinion, your best 
alternative is to add a DSR1. This unit will give you all sorts of modern 
features, such as a built-in tone generator, support for high density (HD) 
disks, support of  Standard MIDI Files, etc.

If you choose not to replace your disk drive, playback should work fine using 
the DSR1, as far as I know. However, if you wish to record using the DSR1 or 
to play its internal voices from your Disklavier keyboard, you must insert a 
disk into the drive of the MX80 and engage the record button. This is 
necessary to get the MIDI data to go from the MX80 to the DSR1.

I believe that this will not be possible unless you have a functioning disk 
drive on the MX80.

For more information, I suggest that you call Mark Wisner at Yamaha Piano 
Service: (800) 854-1569 between 8:30-5:00 PST. Push 2 at the first menu 
choice and 2 at the second menu choice.

Regards,
PianoBench

Re: [disklavier] (unknown)

2004-06-09 by Carol Beigel

The floppy disk drive is the only user interface on a
Disklavier.  They just wear out or break.  Since it has
only been a few weeks, perhaps the part can still be
replaced under warranty, but you will probably still
incur the labor costs.  It just happens.  Make sure
your floppies are good quality.  I myself purchased
some new floppies from our local stationery supply
store and thought they were just a smidge too thick.
Alas, before my very eyes, the floppy drive on my own
Disklaivier (same model as yours) disintegrated!  It
just happens sometimes for no apparent reason.  The
most common causes I have seen for FD failure is that
the metal tab comes off in the drive, so make sure they
are not bent before you insert the disk.

You can connect a laptop or any other kind of computer
to your DKV through a MIDI interface and avoid having
to use the floppy drive altogether.

Carol Beigel

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "peter10tv" <davis10tv@...>
To: <disklavier@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 3:22 AM
Subject: [disklavier] (unknown)


> Hello to you all.  My name is Peter and I have just
joined the group.
>
> I have a query which someone may be able to help. I
have a MX100mk11XG
> fitted with a DKC500XG control unit.   This worked
very well until
> the Mitsubishi floppy drive failed.  A new drive was
supplied by
> Yamaha, this time a Mitsumi drive. This was extremely
noisy and was
> replaced by a similar but slightly less noisy unit.
> All was well for a few weeks until this Mitsumi unit
failed.  These
> are the extremely slim floppy drive units as fitted
to laptops etc.
> Qustion is: Has anyone else experienced problems with
these
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> replacement drive units?
>
> Many thanks for your time.
> Peter(England)
>
>

Re: [disklavier] (unknown)

2004-06-09 by Robert Welcyng

Peter,

The floppy drive of my Mark II has operated for over seven years with 
never a problem. When spinning a diskette, it does make a barely audible 
whine. I suggest you keep after your tech to have your unit replaced 
until you get one that operates reliably and quietly.  Should the third 
replacement drive fail, I would become suspicious of the control box 
itself, as three drive failures in a row seems highly improbable.

According to my tech, the drives are not fool-proof.  The most frequent 
reason he replaces one is that a floppy is inserted upside down, in 
which case it will quite certainly destroy a head.  And, as Carol 
cautions, use diskettes of a well-known brand so that you can be assured 
that they meet specifications.

peter10tv wrote:
> Hello to you all.  My name is Peter and I have just joined the group.
> 
> I have a query which someone may be able to help. I have a MX100mk11XG
> fitted with a DKC500XG control unit.   This worked very well until 
> the Mitsubishi floppy drive failed.  A new drive was supplied by 
> Yamaha, this time a Mitsumi drive. This was extremely noisy and was 
> replaced by a similar but slightly less noisy unit.
> All was well for a few weeks until this Mitsumi unit failed.  These 
> are the extremely slim floppy drive units as fitted to laptops etc.
> Qustion is: Has anyone else experienced problems with these 
> replacement drive units?
> 
> Many thanks for your time.  
> Peter(England)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> To Post a message to the group, send it to:   disklavier@...
> 
> To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and moderator, send it to:
> disklavier-owner@...
> 
> To reach our group's web site go to:
> http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
> 
> Todd's family web site was completely updated 012/22/03.  It contains some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among many other things, The url is:
> http://MuncyFamily.com 
> 
> THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
> If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail, go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead.  That will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group.  If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to:
> disklavier-unsubscribe@... 
> 
> Know someone who wants to join?  Have them send a blank email to:
> disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this link:
> http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join 
>  
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 


-- 
Robert Welcyng
Anchorage, Alaska

Re: [disklavier] (unknown)

2009-02-12 by Carol Beigel

The pedal solenoid needs adjustment. A technician needs to set it properly.
Carol Beigel
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 12:22 PM
Subject: [disklavier] (unknown)

Hello, I am a new comer in this place, based presently in Albania with a brand new disklavier IV. Congratulation for the initiative.
I have a small problem I would like to find solution.
After playing between 20 to 40 minutes, the right pedal stopped working and the PDA indicated it is temperature problem. I switch off the piano and then start again and it works ... until the next 20/40 minutes when the right pedal stops working again.
The room is climatised at 22 degree celcius, humidity is around 60% but I use a deshumidifcation equipment as I leave 50 meters from Adriatic sea.
How can I solve this problem ? I was thinking maybe the installation was not correct and the mechanism is "forcing" somewhere that creates this abnormal temperature on the solenoid ? Or just something to be adjusted ?
Thanks for your precious help by experience.
Julien

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Re: Pedal problem on new model

2009-02-12 by julien.roche@ymail.com

Thanks for your quick answer. Do you know when I can find the right 
technical manual to do the adjustment ? Here in Albania no 
specialist for Yamaha disklavier, but very good electronic 
technicians who can understand and provide the right adjustment.

Julien



- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Carol Beigel" <thecarolb@...> 
wrote:
>
> The pedal solenoid needs adjustment.  A technician needs to set it 
properly.
> 
> Carol Beigel
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Julien Roche 
>   To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 12:22 PM
>   Subject: [disklavier] (unknown)
> 
> 
>   Hello, I am a new comer in this place, based presently in 
Albania with a brand new disklavier IV. Congratulation for the 
initiative.
> 
>   I have a small problem I would like to find solution.
> 
>   After playing between 20 to 40 minutes, the right pedal stopped 
working and the PDA indicated it is temperature problem. I switch 
off the piano and then start again and it works ... until the next 
20/40 minutes when the right pedal stops working again.
> 
>   The room is climatised at 22 degree celcius, humidity is around 
60% but I use a deshumidifcation equipment as I leave 50 meters from 
Adriatic sea.
> 
>   How can I solve this problem ? I was thinking maybe the 
installation was not correct and the mechanism is "forcing" 
somewhere that creates this abnormal temperature on the solenoid ? 
Or just something to be adjusted ?
> 
>   Thanks for your precious help by experience.
> 
>   Julien
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> Internal Virus Database is out of date.
> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 
> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.10.19/1938 - Release Date: 
2/6/2009 5:28 PM
>

Re: [disklavier] Re: Pedal problem on new model

2009-02-13 by Carol Beigel

Inside the black metal cover over the pedal solenoids (on some models) is a 
diagram of how to adjust the pedal solenoid.  It is very simple.  However, 
for what a Mark IV costs, I would have both a piano technician and an 
electronic tech present to do the adjustments.  I would contact your Yamaha 
Dealer for a recommendation.

Carol Beigel

----- Original Message ----- 
Show quoted textHide quoted text
From: <julien.roche@...>
To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 12:46 PM
Subject: [disklavier] Re: Pedal problem on new model


>
> Thanks for your quick answer. Do you know when I can find the right
> technical manual to do the adjustment ? Here in Albania no
> specialist for Yamaha disklavier, but very good electronic
> technicians who can understand and provide the right adjustment.
>
> Julien
>
>
>
> - In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Carol Beigel" <thecarolb@...>
> wrote:
>>
>> The pedal solenoid needs adjustment.  A technician needs to set it
> properly.
>>
>> Carol Beigel
>>
>>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>>   From: Julien Roche
>>   To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
>>   Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 12:22 PM
>>   Subject: [disklavier] (unknown)
>>
>>
>>   Hello, I am a new comer in this place, based presently in
> Albania with a brand new disklavier IV. Congratulation for the
> initiative.
>>
>>   I have a small problem I would like to find solution.
>>
>>   After playing between 20 to 40 minutes, the right pedal stopped
> working and the PDA indicated it is temperature problem. I switch
> off the piano and then start again and it works ... until the next
> 20/40 minutes when the right pedal stops working again.
>>
>>   The room is climatised at 22 degree celcius, humidity is around
> 60% but I use a deshumidifcation equipment as I leave 50 meters from
> Adriatic sea.
>>
>>   How can I solve this problem ? I was thinking maybe the
> installation was not correct and the mechanism is "forcing"
> somewhere that creates this abnormal temperature on the solenoid ?
> Or just something to be adjusted ?
>>
>>   Thanks for your precious help by experience.
>>
>>   Julien
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Internal Virus Database is out of date.
>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
>> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.10.19/1938 - Release Date:
> 2/6/2009 5:28 PM
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> To Post a message to the group, send it to:   disklavier@...
>
> To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and 
> moderator, send it to:
> disklavier-owner@...
>
> To reach our group's web site go to:
> http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
>
> THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
> If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail, 
> go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead.  That 
> will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group.  If you 
> insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to:
> disklavier-unsubscribe@...
>
> Know someone who wants to join?  Have them send a blank email to:
> disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this link:
> http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
> Internal Virus Database is out of date.
> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.10.19/1938 - Release Date: 2/6/2009 
> 5:28 PM
>
>
>

Re: [disklavier] Re: Pedal problem on new model

2009-02-13 by Julien Roche

Thanks a lot
Julien

From: Carol Beigel To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 1:55:23 AM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: Pedal problem on new model

Inside the black metal cover over the pedal solenoids (on some models) is a
diagram of how to adjust the pedal solenoid. It is very simple. However,
for what a Mark IV costs, I would have both a piano technician and an
electronic tech present to do the adjustments. I would contact your Yamaha
Dealer for a recommendation.

Carol Beigel

----- Original Message -----
From: <julien.roche@ ymail.com>
To: <disklavier@yahoogro ups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 12:46 PM
Subject: [disklavier] Re: Pedal problem on new model

>
> Thanks for your quick answer. Do you know when I can find the right
> technical manual to do the adjustment ? Here in Albania no
> specialist for Yamaha disklavier, but very good electronic
> technicians who can understand and provide the right adjustment..
>
> Julien
>
>
>
> - In disklavier@yahoogro ups.com, "Carol Beigel"
>; wrote:
>>
>> The pedal solenoid needs adjustment. A technician needs to set it
> properly.
>>
>> Carol Beigel
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Julien Roche
>> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
>> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 12:22 PM
>> Subject: [disklavier] (unknown)
>>
>>
>> Hello, I am a new comer in this place, based presently in
> Albania with a brand new disklavier IV. Congratulation for the
> initiative.
>>
>> I have a small problem I would like to find solution.
>>
>> After playing between 20 to 40 minutes, the right pedal stopped
> working and the PDA indicated it is temperature problem. I switch
> off the piano and then start again and it works ... until the next
> 20/40 minutes when the right pedal stops working again.
>>
>> The room is climatised at 22 degree celcius, humidity is around
> 60% but I use a deshumidifcation equipment as I leave 50 meters from
> Adriatic sea.
>>;
>> How can I solve this problem ? I was thinking maybe the
> installation was not correct and the mechanism is "forcing"
> somewhere that creates this abnormal temperature on the solenoid ?
> Or just something to be adjusted ?
>>
>> Thanks for your precious help by experience.
>>
>> Julien
>>
>;>
>>
>>
>>
>> Internal Virus Database is out of date.
>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com
>> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.10.19/1938 - Release Date:
> 2/6/2009 5:28 PM
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------ --------- --------- ------
>
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>
> To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and
> moderator, send it to:
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>
> To reach our group's web site go to:
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>
> THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
> If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail,
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>
>
>
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Re: [disklavier] Re: Pedal problem on new model

2009-02-13 by Julien Roche

Hi Carol,
OK, we did what you recommand, we found the notice on the back of the black cover : "loosen lock nut A then rotate adjusting nut B until the upper line G on the rod is the same height as edge line F. Tighten nut A to lock it. When pedal adjustment is correct, line E never goes higher than edge line F when the pedal is fully depressed." very clear : we did it but previous position was ok at 1 millimeter, not so big change, still hot, maybe slightly less. Note : E is very far from level F when pedal is fully depressed. What is better that to be at exact level F : level G to be slightly upper level F or slightly down of level G ? Or maybe is another problem. Thanks so much for your help.
Julien

Show quoted textHide quoted text
From: Carol Beigel <thecarolb@...>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 1:55:23 AM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: Pedal problem on new model

Inside the black metal cover over the pedal solenoids (on some models) is a
diagram of how to adjust the pedal solenoid. It is very simple. However,
for what a Mark IV costs, I would have both a piano technician and an
electronic tech present to do the adjustments. I would contact your Yamaha
Dealer for a recommendation.

Carol Beigel

----- Original Message -----
From: <julien.roche@ ymail.com>
To: <disklavier@yahoogro ups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 12:46 PM
Subject: [disklavier] Re: Pedal problem on new model

>
> Thanks for your quick answer. Do you know when I can find the right
> technical manual to do the adjustment ? Here in Albania no
> specialist for Yamaha disklavier, but very good electronic
> technicians who can understand and provide the right adjustment..
>
>; Julien
>
>
>
> - In disklavier@yahoogro ups.com, "Carol Beigel"
> wrote:
>>
>> The pedal solenoid needs adjustment. A technician needs to set it
> properly.
>>
>> Carol Beigel
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Julien Roche
>> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
>> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 12:22 PM
>> Subject: [disklavier] (unknown)
>>
>>
>> Hello, I am a new comer in this place, based presently in
> Albania with a brand new disklavier IV. Congratulation for the
> initiative.
>>
>> I have a small problem I would like to find solution.
>>
>> After playing between 20 to 40 minutes, the right pedal stopped
> working and the PDA indicated it is temperature problem. I switch
> off the piano and then start again and it works ... until the next
> 20/40 minutes when the right pedal stops working again.
>>
>>; The room is climatised at 22 degree celcius, humidity is around
> 60% but I use a deshumidifcation equipment as I leave 50 meters from
> Adriatic sea.
>>
>> How can I solve this problem ? I was thinking maybe the
> installation was not correct and the mechanism is "forcing"
> somewhere that creates this abnormal temperature on the solenoid ?
> Or just something to be adjusted ?
>>
>;> Thanks for your precious help by experience.
>>
>> Julien
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Internal Virus Database is out of date.
>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com
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> 2/6/2009 5:28 PM
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Re: [disklavier] Re: Pedal problem on new model

2009-02-13 by Julien Roche

I think I may found the problem : the metal part on the top of the tube of right pedal, pushing the wooden square piece (recovered with leather) is not pushing in the middle of the square but on an angle of it, so the necessary force should be much bigger than if the pressure was in the middle of the piece. Your opinion ? (see attached a picture of the contact)

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From: Julien Roche
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 10:32:30 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: Pedal problem on new model

Hi Carol,
OK, we did what you recommand, we found the notice on the back of the black cover : "loosen lock nut A then rotate adjusting nut B until the upper line G on the rod is the same height as edge line F. Tighten nut A to lock it. When pedal adjustment is correct, line E never goes higher than edge line F when the pedal is fully depressed." very clear : we did it but previous position was ok at 1 millimeter, not so big change, still hot, maybe slightly less. Note : E is very far from level F when pedal is fully depressed. What is better that to be at exact level F : level G to be slightly upper level F or slightly down of level G ? Or maybe is another problem. Thanks so much for your help.
Julien

From: Carol Beigel
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 1:55:23 AM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: Pedal problem on new model

Inside the black metal cover over the pedal solenoids (on some models) is a
diagram of how to adjust the pedal solenoid. It is very simple. However,
for what a Mark IV costs, I would have both a piano technician and an
electronic tech present to do the adjustments. I would contact your Yamaha
Dealer for a recommendation.

Carol Beigel

----- Original Message -----
From: <julien.roche@ ymail.com>
To: <disklavier@yahoogro ups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 12:46 PM
Subject: [disklavier] Re: Pedal problem on new model

>
> Thanks for your quick answer. Do you know when I can find the right
> technical manual to do the adjustment ? Here in Albania no
> specialist for Yamaha disklavier, but very good electronic
> technicians who can understand and provide the right adjustment...
>
> Julien
>
>
>
>; - In disklavier@yahoogro ups.com, "Carol Beigel"
> wrote:
>>
>> The pedal solenoid needs adjustment. A technician needs to set it
> properly.
>>
>> Carol Beigel
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Julien Roche
>> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
>> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 12:22 PM
>> Subject: [disklavier] (unknown)
>>
>>
>> Hello, I am a new comer in this place, based presently in
> Albania with a brand new disklavier IV. Congratulation for the
> initiative.
>>
>> I have a small problem I would like to find solution.
>>
>> After playing between 20 to 40 minutes, the right pedal stopped
> working and the PDA indicated it is temperature problem. I switch
> off the piano and then start again and it works ... until the next
> 20/40 minutes when the right pedal stops working again.
>>
>> The room is climatised at 22 degree celcius, humidity is around
> 60% but I use a deshumidifcation equipment as I leave 50 meters from
> Adriatic sea.
>>
>> How can I solve this problem ? I was thinking maybe the
> installation was not correct and the mechanism is "forcing"
> somewhere that creates this abnormal temperature on the solenoid ?
> Or just something to be adjusted ?
>>
>> Thanks for your precious help by experience.
>>
>> Julien
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Internal Virus Database is out of date.
>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com
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Re: [disklavier] Re: Pedal problem on new model

2009-02-15 by Carol Beigel

The angle should not make a difference. I have been trying to figure out a way to ask you about "lost motion" of the pedal stroke. When you press the damper pedal (the one on the Right) how far does the rod move before the dampers lift? There should be a minimal amount of motion. Since the solenoid appears to be in the proper place, perhaps the nut at the top of the brass rod needs to be adjusted so that the dampers move after the pedal has been pressed down only 1/8 inch.
Also, the capstan screw attached to the underside of the piano that connects to the square piece on the pedal rod can be unscrewed and adjusted downward to limit the travel of the pedal. It should be set to stop the pedal motion once the dampers have cleared the strings.
This is where a piano technician comes in handy! Perhaps the ideal situation would be to "Skype" a piano tech with a web cam to check this adjustment. This same video tech support could also guide you through the electronic adjustment of the pedal solenoid.
The folks who sold you this piano should have access to a proper technician.
Carol Beigel
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: Pedal problem on new model

I think I may found the problem : the metal part on the top of the tube of right pedal, pushing the wooden square piece (recovered with leather) is not pushing in the middle of the square but on an angle of it, so the necessary force should be much bigger than if the pressure was in the middle of the piece. Your opinion ? (see attached a picture of the contact)

From: Julien Roche
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 10:32:30 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: Pedal problem on new model

Hi Carol,
OK, we did what you recommand, we found the notice on the back of the black cover : "loosen lock nut A then rotate adjusting nut B until the upper line G on the rod is the same height as edge line F. Tighten nut A to lock it. When pedal adjustment is correct, line E never goes higher than edge line F when the pedal is fully depressed." very clear : we did it but previous position was ok at 1 millimeter, not so big change, still hot, maybe slightly less. Note : E is very far from level F when pedal is fully depressed. What is better that to be at exact level F : level G to be slightly upper level F or slightly down of level G ? Or maybe is another problem. Thanks so much for your help.
Julien

From: Carol Beigel
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 1:55:23 AM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: Pedal problem on new model

Inside the black metal cover over the pedal solenoids (on some models) is a
diagram of how to adjust the pedal solenoid. It is very simple. However,
for what a Mark IV costs, I would have both a piano technician and an
electronic tech present to do the adjustments. I would contact your Yamaha
Dealer for a recommendation.

Carol Beigel

----- Original Message -----
From: <julien.roche@ ymail.com>
To: <disklavier@yahoogro ups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 12:46 PM
Subject: [disklavier] Re: Pedal problem on new model

>
> Thanks for your quick answer. Do you know when I can find the right
> technical manual to do the adjustment ? Here in Albania no
> specialist for Yamaha disklavier, but very good electronic
> technicians who can understand and provide the right adjustment...
>
> Julien
>
>
>
> - In disklavier@yahoogro ups.com, "Carol Beigel"
> wrote:
>>
>> The pedal solenoid needs adjustment. A technician needs to set it
> properly.
>>
>> Carol Beigel
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Julien Roche
>> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
>> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 12:22 PM
>> Subject: [disklavier] (unknown)
>>
>>
>> Hello, I am a new comer in this place, based presently in
> Albania with a brand new disklavier IV. Congratulation for the
> initiative.
>>
>> I have a small problem I would like to find solution.
>>
>> After playing between 20 to 40 minutes, the right pedal stopped
> working and the PDA indicated it is temperature problem. I switch
> off the piano and then start again and it works ... until the next
> 20/40 minutes when the right pedal stops working again.
>>;
>> The room is climatised at 22 degree celcius, humidity is around
> 60% but I use a deshumidifcation equipment as I leave 50 meters from
> Adriatic sea.
>>
>> How can I solve this problem ? I was thinking maybe the
> installation was not correct and the mechanism is "forcing"
> somewhere that creates this abnormal temperature on the solenoid ?
> Or just something to be adjusted ?
>>
>> Thanks for your precious help by experience.
>>
>> Julien
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Internal Virus Database is out of date.
>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com
>> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.10.19/1938 - Release Date:
> 2/6/2009 5:28 PM
>>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [disklavier] (unknown)

2009-02-22 by Robert 69

Hi Julien,

The pedal solenoid must be calibrated by a trained technition or the warranty can be voided.


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From: Julien Roche
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 11:22:43 AM
Subject: [disklavier] (unknown)

Hello, I am a new comer in this place, based presently in Albania with a brand new disklavier IV. Congratulation for the initiative.
I have a small problem I would like to find solution.
After playing between 20 to 40 minutes, the right pedal stopped working and the PDA indicated it is temperature problem. I switch off the piano and then start again and it works ... until the next 20/40 minutes when the right pedal stops working again.
The room is climatised at 22 degree celcius, humidity is around 60% but I use a deshumidifcation equipment as I leave 50 meters from Adriatic sea.
How can I solve this problem ? I was thinking maybe the installation was not correct and the mechanism is "forcing" somewhere that creates this abnormal temperature on the solenoid ? Or just something to be adjusted ?
Thanks for your precious help by experience.
Julien


Re: [disklavier] (unknown)

2009-03-01 by Julien Roche

Hi,
Thanks your message and advice: There is a local Yamaha official rep, but he never saw before a disklavier...


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From: Robert 69
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 5:26:56 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] (unknown)

Hi Julien,

The pedal solenoid must be calibrated by a trained technition or the warranty can be voided.


From: Julien Roche ymail.com>
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 11:22:43 AM
Subject: [disklavier] (unknown)

Hello, I am a new comer in this place, based presently in Albania with a brand new disklavier IV. Congratulation for the initiative.
I have a small problem I would like to find solution.
After playing between 20 to 40 minutes, the right pedal stopped working and the PDA indicated it is temperature problem. I switch off the piano and then start again and it works ... until the next 20/40 minutes when the right pedal stops working again.
The room is climatised at 22 degree celcius, humidity is around 60% but I use a deshumidifcation equipment as I leave 50 meters from Adriatic sea.
How can I solve this problem ? I was thinking maybe the installation was not correct and the mechanism is "forcing" somewhere that creates this abnormal temperature on the solenoid ? Or just something to be adjusted ?
Thanks for your precious help by experience.
Julien



Re: [disklavier] (unknown)

2009-03-05 by athomik


You can carry out the basic electronic pedal calibration yourself.

From the main Menu (not the piano interface pages) select the 'Service Centre'. In the next menu, you can select a pedal calibration routine. Click on this, and when the next page comes up, press 'Play'. The piano will slowly move each pedal in turn and measure the response and pedal travel. The screen will also tell you what it is doing, as well as the measurement values. At the end, it should say 'OK' at the bottom of the screen. The pedal travel should be about 16mm to 18mm. If you get an error message, there may be an electronic problem or the overall pedal geometry may be incorrect. If this is the case, you will need to get a technician to have a look at it.


athomik

On Mar 1 2009, Julien Roche wrote:

>
>
>Hi,
>
>Thanks your message and advice: There is a local Yamaha official rep, but he never saw before a disklavier...
>
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
>From: Robert 69
>To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 5:26:56 PM
>Subject: Re: [disklavier] (unknown)
>
>
>Hi Julien,
>
>The pedal solenoid must be calibrated by a trained technition or the warranty can be voided.
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
>From: Julien Roche
>To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
>Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 11:22:43 AM
>Subject: [disklavier] (unknown)
>
>
>Hello, I am a new comer in this place, based presently in Albania with a brand new disklavier IV. Congratulation for the initiative.
>
>I have a small problem I would like to find solution.
>
>After playing between 20 to 40 minutes, the right pedal stopped working and the PDA indicated it is temperature problem. I switch off the piano and then start again and it works ... until the next 20/40 minutes when the right pedal stops working again.
>
>The room is climatised at 22 degree celcius, humidity is around 60% but I use a deshumidifcation equipment as I leave 50 meters from Adriatic sea.
>
>How can I solve this problem ? I was thinking maybe the installation was not correct and the mechanism is "forcing" somewhere that creates this abnormal temperature on the solenoid ? Or just something to be adjusted ?
>
>Thanks for your precious help by experience.
>
>Julien
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [disklavier] (unknown)

2009-03-06 by Julien Roche

Thanks a lot, I will try right now !
I ll keep you informed.


From: athomik To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2009 3:26:00 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] (unknown)


You can carry out the basic electronic pedal calibration yourself.

From the main Menu (not the piano interface pages) select the 'Service Centre'. In the next menu, you can select a pedal calibration routine. Click on this, and when the next page comes up, press 'Play'. The piano will slowly move each pedal in turn and measure the response and pedal travel. The screen will also tell you what it is doing, as well as the measurement values. At the end, it should say 'OK' at the bottom of the screen. The pedal travel should be about 16mm to 18mm. If you get an error message, there may be an electronic problem or the overall pedal geometry may be incorrect. If this is the case, you will need to get a technician to have a look at it.


athomik

On Mar 1 2009, Julien Roche wrote:

>
>
>Hi,
>
>Thanks your message and advice: There is a local Yamaha official rep, but he never saw before a disklavier.. .
>
>
>
>
>
>____________ _________ _________ __
>From: Robert 69
>To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
>Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 5:26:56 PM
>Subject: Re: [disklavier] (unknown)
>
>
>Hi Julien,
>
>The pedal solenoid must be calibrated by a trained technition or the warranty can be voided.
>
>
>
>
>____________ _________ _________ __
>From: Julien Roche
>To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
>Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 11:22:43 AM
>Subject: [disklavier] (unknown)
>
>
>Hello, I am a new comer in this place, based presently in Albania with a brand new disklavier IV. Congratulation for the initiative.
>
>I have a small problem I would like to find solution.
>
>After playing between 20 to 40 minutes, the right pedal stopped working and the PDA indicated it is temperature problem. I switch off the piano and then start again and it works ... until the next 20/40 minutes when the right pedal stops working again.
>
>The room is climatised at 22 degree celcius, humidity is around 60% but I use a deshumidifcation equipment as I leave 50 meters from Adriatic sea.
>
>How can I solve this problem ? I was thinking maybe the installation was not correct and the mechanism is "forcing" somewhere that creates this abnormal temperature on the solenoid ? Or just something to be adjusted ?
>
>Thanks for your precious help by experience.
>
>Julien
>
>
>
>
>
>


Re: [disklavier] (unknown)

2009-03-06 by Julien Roche

I did the job. Following is what happened on the screen:
 
[LOUD PEDAL CALIBRATION]
Calibration : START
[MSG-box]  update your TRC
[MSG-box]  update your TRC
[MSG-box]  Your version …... (too old to get info)
[MSG-box]  Latest version : 1130
Calibration : END
Loud stroke : 13.33 mm
Stroke check : OK
 
I do not understand why my version is too old, the disklavier IV is brand new (1 month old) and I used it maybe 30 times. After 30  to 40mn then 
is displayed on my PRC 100 : right pedal has been stopped (heated)   
It is true that the box where are the solenoides there is a little bit hot.
 
Thanks for your precious help.
Kind regards
Julien




________________________________
From: athomik <mail@...>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2009 3:26:00 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] (unknown)



You can carry out the basic electronic pedal calibration yourself. 
From the main Menu (not the piano interface pages) select the 'Service Centre'. In the next menu, you can select a pedal calibration routine. Click on this, and when the next page comes up, press 'Play'. The piano will slowly move each pedal in turn and measure the response and pedal travel. The screen will also tell you what it is doing, as well as the measurement values. At the end, it should say 'OK' at the bottom of the screen. The pedal travel should be about 16mm to 18mm. If you get an error message, there may be an electronic problem or the overall pedal geometry may be incorrect. If this is the case, you will need to get a technician to have a look at it. 

athomik
Show quoted textHide quoted text
On Mar 1 2009, Julien Roche wrote: 

>
>
>Hi,
>
>Thanks your message and advice: There is a local Yamaha official rep, but he never saw before a disklavier.. .
>
> 
>
>
>
>____________ _________ _________ __
>From: Robert 69 
>To: disklavier@yahoogro ups..com
>Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 5:26:56 PM
>Subject: Re: [disklavier] (unknown)
>
>
>Hi Julien,
>
>The pedal solenoid must be calibrated by a trained technition or the warranty can be voided.
>
>
>
>
>____________ _________ _________ __
>From: Julien Roche 
>To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
>Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 11:22:43 AM
>Subject: [disklavier] (unknown)
>
>
>Hello, I am a new comer in this place, based presently in Albania with a brand new disklavier IV. Congratulation for the initiative.
>
>I have a small problem I would like to find solution.
>
>After playing between 20 to 40 minutes, the right pedal stopped working and the PDA indicated it is temperature problem. I switch off the piano and then start again and it works ... until the next 20/40 minutes when the right pedal stops working again.
>
>The room is climatised at 22 degree celcius, humidity is around 60% but I use a deshumidifcation  equipment as I leave 50 meters from Adriatic sea.
>
>How can I solve this problem ? I was thinking maybe the installation was not correct and the mechanism is "forcing" somewhere that creates this abnormal temperature on the solenoid ? Or just something to be adjusted ?
>
>Thanks for your precious help by experience.
>
>Julien
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [disklavier] (unknown)

2009-03-07 by michael z

I had the same problem, compounded with the sustain pedal being released very loudly on some recordings that added an unintended percussive element to the songs! I had the technician come out to adjust (covered under warranty) and everything is fine now. I actually had my original Mark IV replaced by Yamaha because of continuing problems with the right pedal suddenly stopping to work. They could not fix it, so they delivered a new piano. My new Mark IV has also had some problems like yours, but they seem fixable so far. Seems this is a common problem for the Mark IVs.
Michael


--- On Fri, 3/6/09, Julien Roche <julien.roche@...> wrote:
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> From: Julien Roche <julien.roche@...>
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] (unknown)
> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 10:20 AM
> Thanks a lot, I will try right now !
> I ll keep you informed.
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: athomik <mail@...>
> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2009 3:26:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] (unknown)
> 
> 
> 
> You can carry out the basic electronic pedal calibration
> yourself. 
> From the main Menu (not the piano interface pages) select
> the 'Service Centre'. In the next menu, you can
> select a pedal calibration routine. Click on this, and when
> the next page comes up, press 'Play'. The piano will
> slowly move each pedal in turn and measure the response and
> pedal travel. The screen will also tell you what it is
> doing, as well as the measurement values. At the end, it
> should say 'OK' at the bottom of the screen. The
> pedal travel should be about 16mm to 18mm. If you get an
> error message, there may be an electronic problem or the
> overall pedal geometry may be incorrect. If this is the
> case, you will need to get a technician to have a look at
> it. 
> 
> athomik
> 
> On Mar 1 2009, Julien Roche wrote: 
> 
> >
> >
> >Hi,
> >
> >Thanks your message and advice: There is a local Yamaha
> official rep, but he never saw before a disklavier.. .
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> >____________ _________ _________ __
> >From: Robert 69 
> >To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
> >Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 5:26:56 PM
> >Subject: Re: [disklavier] (unknown)
> >
> >
> >Hi Julien,
> >
> >The pedal solenoid must be calibrated by a trained
> technition or the warranty can be voided.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >____________ _________ _________ __
> >From: Julien Roche 
> >To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
> >Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 11:22:43 AM
> >Subject: [disklavier] (unknown)
> >
> >
> >Hello, I am a new comer in this place, based presently
> in Albania with a brand new disklavier IV. Congratulation
> for the initiative.
> >
> >I have a small problem I would like to find solution.
> >
> >After playing between 20 to 40 minutes, the right pedal
> stopped working and the PDA indicated it is temperature
> problem. I switch off the piano and then start again and it
> works ... until the next 20/40 minutes when the right pedal
> stops working again.
> >
> >The room is climatised at 22 degree celcius, humidity
> is around 60% but I use a deshumidifcation  equipment as I
> leave 50 meters from Adriatic sea.
> >
> >How can I solve this problem ? I was thinking maybe the
> installation was not correct and the mechanism is
> "forcing" somewhere that creates this abnormal
> temperature on the solenoid ? Or just something to be
> adjusted ?
> >
> >Thanks for your precious help by experience.
> >
> >Julien
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

Re: [disklavier] (unknown)

2009-03-08 by Julien Roche

Thanks for your experience. The problem here ther official Yamaha Rpe has no knowledge at all about disklavier (I am leaving in Albania, Europe)
Maybe I can make a remote test via internet and video cameras... If you have any ideas...
Julien


Show quoted textHide quoted text
From: michael z
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2009 1:01:41 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] (unknown)


I had the same problem, compounded with the sustain pedal being released very loudly on some recordings that added an unintended percussive element to the songs! I had the technician come out to adjust (covered under warranty) and everything is fine now. I actually had my original Mark IV replaced by Yamaha because of continuing problems with the right pedal suddenly stopping to work. They could not fix it, so they delivered a new piano. My new Mark IV has also had some problems like yours, but they seem fixable so far. Seems this is a common problem for the Mark IVs.
Michael

--- On Fri, 3/6/09, Julien Roche <julien.roche@ ymail.com> wrote:

> From: Julien Roche <julien.roche@ ymail.com>
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] (unknown)
> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
> Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 10:20 AM
> Thanks a lot, I will try right now !
> I ll keep you informed.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: athomik <mail@mangeztout. co.uk>
> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
> Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2009 3:26:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] (unknown)
>
>
>
> You can carry out the basic electronic pedal calibration
> yourself.
> From the main Menu (not the piano interface pages) select
> the 'Service Centre'. In the next menu, you can
> select a pedal calibration routine. Click on this, and when
> the next page comes up, press 'Play'. The piano will
> slowly move each pedal in turn and measure the response and
> pedal travel. The screen will also tell you what it is
> doing, as well as the measurement values. At the end, it
> should say 'OK' at the bottom of the screen. The
> pedal travel should be about 16mm to 18mm. If you get an
> error message, there may be an electronic problem or the
> overall pedal geometry may be incorrect. If this is the
> case, you will need to get a technician to have a look at
> it.
>
> athomik
>
> On Mar 1 2009, Julien Roche wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >Hi,
>; >
> >Thanks your message and advice: There is a local Yamaha
> official rep, but he never saw before a disklavier.. .
> >;
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >___________ _ _________ _________ __
> >From: Robert 69
> >To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
> >Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 5:26:56 PM
> >Subject: Re: [disklavier] (unknown)
> >
> >
> >Hi Julien,
> >
> >The pedal solenoid must be calibrated by a trained
> technition or the warranty can be voided.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >___________ _ _________ _________ __
> >From: Julien Roche
> >To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
> >Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 11:22:43 AM
> >Subject: [disklavier] (unknown)
> >
> >
> >Hello, I am a new comer in this place, based presently
> in Albania with a brand new disklavier IV. Congratulation
> for the initiative.
> >
> >I have a small problem I would like to find solution.
> >
> >After playing between 20 to 40 minutes, the right pedal
> stopped working and the PDA indicated it is temperature
> problem. I switch off the piano and then start again and it
> works ... until the next 20/40 minutes when the right pedal
> stops working again.
> >
> >The room is climatised at 22 degree celcius, humidity
> is around 60% but I use a deshumidifcation equipment as I
> leave 50 meters from Adriatic sea.
> >
> >How can I solve this problem ? I was thinking maybe the
>; installation was not correct and the mechanism is
> "forcing" somewhere that creates this abnormal
> temperature on the solenoid ? Or just something to be
> adjusted ?
> >
> >Thanks for your precious help by experience.
> >
> >Julien
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >


Re: [disklavier] (unknown)

2009-03-09 by Alan Chapman

I don't know how things work elsewhere - but you should insist that you get some help from Yamaha Japan. If Europe doesn't know how to help then go to Yamaha Japan. You have a warranty - Yamaha Europe has sold you a piano under warranty - they should help or get out of the business. Just my uninformed personal opinion.

Alan

Show quoted textHide quoted text
From: Julien Roche
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2009 1:14:28 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] (unknown)

Thanks for your experience. The problem here ther official Yamaha Rpe has no knowledge at all about disklavier (I am leaving in Albania, Europe)
Maybe I can make a remote test via internet and video cameras... If you have any ideas...
Julien


From: michael z
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2009 1:01:41 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] (unknown)


I had the same problem, compounded with the sustain pedal being released very loudly on some recordings that added an unintended percussive element to the songs! I had the technician come out to adjust (covered under warranty) and everything is fine now. I actually had my original Mark IV replaced by Yamaha because of continuing problems with the right pedal suddenly stopping to work. They could not fix it, so they delivered a new piano. My new Mark IV has also had some problems like yours, but they seem fixable so far. Seems this is a common problem for the Mark IVs.
Michael

--- On Fri, 3/6/09, Julien Roche <julien.roche@ ymail.com> wrote:

> From: Julien Roche <julien.roche@ ymail.com>
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] (unknown)
> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
> Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 10:20 AM
> Thanks a lot, I will try right now !
> I ll keep you informed.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: athomik <mail@mangeztout. co.uk>
> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
> Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2009 3:26:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] (unknown)
>
>
>
> You can carry out the basic electronic pedal calibration
> yourself.
> From the main Menu (not the piano interface pages) select
> the 'Service Centre'. In the next menu, you can
> select a pedal calibration routine. Click on this, and when
> the next page comes up, press 'Play'. The piano will
> slowly move each pedal in turn and measure the response and
> pedal travel. The screen will also tell you what it is
> doing, as well as the measurement values. At the end, it
> should say 'OK' at the bottom of the screen. The
> pedal travel should be about 16mm to 18mm. If you get an
> error message, there may be an electronic problem or the
> overall pedal geometry may be incorrect. If this is the
> case, you will need to get a technician to have a look at
> it.
>
> athomik
>
> On Mar 1 2009, Julien Roche wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >Hi,
> >
> >Thanks your message and advice: There is a local Yamaha
> official rep, but he never saw before a disklavier.. .
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >___________ _ _________ _________ __
> >From: Robert 69
> >To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
> >Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 5:26:56 PM
> >Subject: Re: [disklavier] (unknown)
> >
> >
> >Hi Julien,
> >
> >The pedal solenoid must be calibrated by a trained
> technition or the warranty can be voided.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >___________ _ _________ _________ __
> >From: Julien Roche
> >To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
> >Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 11:22:43 AM
> >Subject: [disklavier] (unknown)
> >
> >
> >Hello, I am a new comer in this place, based presently
> in Albania with a brand new disklavier IV. Congratulation
> for the initiative.
> >
> >I have a small problem I would like to find solution.
> >
> >After playing between 20 to 40 minutes, the right pedal
> stopped working and the PDA indicated it is temperature
> problem. I switch off the piano and then start again and it
> works ... until the next 20/40 minutes when the right pedal
> stops working again.
> >
> >The room is climatised at 22 degree celcius, humidity
> is around 60% but I use a deshumidifcation equipment as I
> leave 50 meters from Adriatic sea.
> >
> >How can I solve this problem ? I was thinking maybe the
> installation was not correct and the mechanism is
> "forcing" somewhere that creates this abnormal
> temperature on the solenoid ? Or just something to be
> adjusted ?
> >
> >Thanks for your precious help by experience.
> >
> >Julien
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >



Re: [disklavier] (unknown)

2009-03-09 by Julien Roche

Dear Alan,
Thanks for your advise, I will follow it.


Show quoted textHide quoted text
From: Alan Chapman
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2009 1:21:59 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] (unknown)

I don't know how things work elsewhere - but you should insist that you get some help from Yamaha Japan. If Europe doesn' t know how to help then go to Yamaha Japan. You have a warranty - Yamaha Europe has sold you a piano under warranty - they should help or get out of the business. Just my uninformed personal opinion.

Alan

From: Julien Roche ymail.com>
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2009 1:14:28 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] (unknown)

Thanks for your experience. The problem here ther official Yamaha Rpe has no knowledge at all about disklavier (I am leaving in Albania, Europe)
Maybe I can make a remote test via internet and video cameras... If you have any ideas...
Julien


From: michael z
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2009 1:01:41 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] (unknown)


I had the same problem, compounded with the sustain pedal being released very loudly on some recordings that added an unintended percussive element to the songs! I had the technician come out to adjust (covered under warranty) and everything is fine now. I actually had my original Mark IV replaced by Yamaha because of continuing problems with the right pedal suddenly stopping to work. They could not fix it, so they delivered a new piano. My new Mark IV has also had some problems like yours, but they seem fixable so far. Seems this is a common problem for the Mark IVs.
Michael

--- On Fri, 3/6/09, Julien Roche <julien.roche@ ymail..com> wrote:

> From: Julien Roche <julien.roche@ ymail.com>
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] (unknown)
> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups..com
> Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 10:20 AM
>; Thanks a lot, I will try right now !
> I ll keep you informed.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: athomik <mail@mangeztout. co.uk>
> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
> Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2009 3:26:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] (unknown)
>
>
>
> You can carry out the basic electronic pedal calibration
> yourself.
> From the main Menu (not the piano interface pages) select
> the 'Service Centre'. In the next menu, you can
> select a pedal calibration routine. Click on this, and when
> the next page comes up, press 'Play'. The piano will
> slowly move each pedal in turn and measure the response and
> pedal travel. The screen will also tell you what it is
> doing, as well as the measurement values. At the end, it
> should say 'OK' at the bottom of the screen. The
> pedal travel should be about 16mm to 18mm. If you get an
> error message, there may be an electronic problem or the
> overall pedal geometry may be incorrect. If this is the
> case, you will need to get a technician to have a look at
> it.
>
> athomik
>
> On Mar 1 2009, Julien Roche wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >Hi,
>; >
> >Thanks your message and advice: There is a local Yamaha
> official rep, but he never saw before a disklavier.. .
> >;
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >___________ _ _________ _________ __
> >From: Robert 69
> >To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
> >Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 5:26:56 PM
> >Subject: Re: [disklavier] (unknown)
> >
> >
> >Hi Julien,
> >
> >The pedal solenoid must be calibrated by a trained
> technition or the warranty can be voided.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >___________ _ _________ _________ __
> >From: Julien Roche
> >To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
> >Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 11:22:43 AM
> >Subject: [disklavier] (unknown)
> >
> >
> >Hello, I am a new comer in this place, based presently
> in Albania with a brand new disklavier IV. Congratulation
> for the initiative.
> >
> >I have a small problem I would like to find solution.
> >
> >After playing between 20 to 40 minutes, the right pedal
> stopped working and the PDA indicated it is temperature
> problem. I switch off the piano and then start again and it
> works ... until the next 20/40 minutes when the right pedal
> stops working again.
> >
> >The room is climatised at 22 degree celcius, humidity
> is around 60% but I use a deshumidifcation equipment as I
> leave 50 meters from Adriatic sea.
> >
> >How can I solve this problem ? I was thinking maybe the
> installation was not correct and the mechanism is
> "forcing" somewhere that creates this abnormal
> temperature on the solenoid ? Or just something to be
> adjusted ?
> >
> >Thanks for your precious help by experience.
> >
> >Julien
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >




Re: [disklavier] (unknown)

2009-03-10 by athomik

if the solenoid overheats, you definitely have a problem. Often, simple adjustment may cure the fault. However, there is always a possibilty that the solenoid itself is faulty (very rare). Overheating is usually due to the solenoid having to drive harder than it should. Adjustment or dirt are usually the cause.

athomik

On Mar 6 2009, Julien Roche wrote:

>I did the job. Following is what happened on the screen:

>[LOUD PEDAL CALIBRATION]
>Calibration : START
>[MSG-box] Â update your TRC
>[MSG-box]Â update your TRC
>[MSG-box]Â Your version â\u20ac¦... (too old to get info)
>[MSG-box]Â Latest version : 1130
>Calibration : END
>Loud stroke : 13.33 mm
>Stroke check : OK

>I do not understand why my version is too old, the disklavier IV is brand new (1 month old) and I used it maybe 30 times. After 30Â to 40mn then
>is displayed on my PRC 100 : right pedal has been stopped (heated)Â Â
>It is true that the box where are the solenoides there is a little bit hot.

>Thanks for your precious help.
>Kind regards
>Julien
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
>From: athomik
>To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2009 3:26:00 PM
>Subject: Re: [disklavier] (unknown)
>
>
>
>You can carry out the basic electronic pedal calibration yourself.
>From the main Menu (not the piano interface pages) select the 'Service Centre'. In the next menu, you can select a pedal calibration routine. Click on this, and when the next page comes up, press 'Play'. The piano will slowly move each pedal in turn and measure the response and pedal travel. The screen will also tell you what it is doing, as well as the measurement values. At the end, it should say 'OK' at the bottom of the screen. The pedal travel should be about 16mm to 18mm. If you get an error message, there may be an electronic problem or the overall pedal geometry may be incorrect. If this is the case, you will need to get a technician to have a look at it.
>
>athomik
>
>On Mar 1 2009, Julien Roche wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Thanks your message and advice: There is a local Yamaha official rep, but he never saw before a disklavier.. .
>>
>>Â
>>
>>
>>
>>____________ _________ _________ __
>>From: Robert 69
>>To: disklavier@yahoogro ups..com
>>Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 5:26:56 PM
>>Subject: Re: [disklavier] (unknown)
>>
>>
>>Hi Julien,
>>
>>The pedal solenoid must be calibrated by a trained technition or the warranty can be voided.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>____________ _________ _________ __
>>From: Julien Roche
>>To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
>>Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 11:22:43 AM
>>Subject: [disklavier] (unknown)
>>
>>
>>Hello, I am a new comer in this place, based presently in Albania with a brand new disklavier IV. Congratulation for the initiative.
>>
>>I have a small problem I would like to find solution.
>>
>>After playing between 20 to 40 minutes, the right pedal stopped working and the PDA indicated it is temperature problem. I switch off the piano and then start again and it works ... until the next 20/40 minutes when the right pedal stops working again.
>>
>>The room is climatised at 22 degree celcius, humidity is around 60% but I use a deshumidifcation equipment as I leave 50 meters from Adriatic sea.
>>
>>How can I solve this problem ? I was thinking maybe the installation was not correct and the mechanism is "forcing" somewhere that creates this abnormal temperature on the solenoid ? Or just something to be adjusted ?
>>
>>Thanks for your precious help by experience.
>>
>>Julien
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>

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