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Midi-ox sysex settings

2004-10-21 by gigolo_heidi

Hi everyone,

I'm unsure whether this has been mentioned before - but I can't seem
to find any information about it. I'm having trouble dumping sysex
from my machinedrum - I think it may be a buffer issue - can someone
tell me what these settings should be set to in MIDI-OX? 

Also I've been trying to dump everything at once (total dump) and I'm
finding that my PC is struggling to keep up in terms of memory etc
(although I have 1gig memory)? Is it possible that it is simply too
much for my PC to receive a full dump and I have to split it into the
pattern/kit dumps?

Please help

thanks

heidi

Re: [elektron] Midi-ox sysex settings

2004-10-25 by Joe Simon

Hi Heidi,
 
Interesting.  I posted a similar issue a while back.  I'm having the same problem with sysex_librarian under Mac osx.  But, I have no problem with Midiox under XP.  I too, have a gig of RAM on my XP box.  Under osx, I get error type 1 (length error) on about 2 sysex records, when I do the md verify on the entire ram dump.
 
So, I use the XP box for the total dump, and the mac g4 for smaller pattern+kit dumps.  All my production work is done on the g4, having to switch back and forth is a pain.
 
I'm not at my machine, but I'll try and get my Midiox settings when I get home tonight.
 
What midi interface are you using?
 
Best regards,
 
Joe

gigolo_heidi <gigolo_heidi@...> wrote:


Hi everyone,

I'm unsure whether this has been mentioned before - but I can't seem
to find any information about it. I'm having trouble dumping sysex
from my machinedrum - I think it may be a buffer issue - can someone
tell me what these settings should be set to in MIDI-OX? 

Also I've been trying to dump everything at once (total dump) and I'm
finding that my PC is struggling to keep up in terms of memory etc
(although I have 1gig memory)? Is it possible that it is simply too
much for my PC to receive a full dump and I have to split it into the
pattern/kit dumps?

Please help

thanks

heidi







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Re: [elektron] Midi-ox sysex settings

2004-10-26 by Joe Simon

Heidi,

My XP settings for midiox are the default settings,
size=256, number=16 for both input and output.  Maybe
you need to increase the size for your problem.  Hope
this helps.

Joe


--- gigolo_heidi <gigolo_heidi@...> wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I'm unsure whether this has been mentioned before -
> but I can't seem
> to find any information about it. I'm having trouble
> dumping sysex
> from my machinedrum - I think it may be a buffer
> issue - can someone
> tell me what these settings should be set to in
> MIDI-OX? 
> 
> Also I've been trying to dump everything at once
> (total dump) and I'm
> finding that my PC is struggling to keep up in terms
> of memory etc
> (although I have 1gig memory)? Is it possible that
> it is simply too
> much for my PC to receive a full dump and I have to
> split it into the
> pattern/kit dumps?
> 
> Please help
> 
> thanks
> 
> heidi
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


		
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Re: [elektron] Midi-ox sysex settings

2004-10-26 by gigolo_heidi

I'm just using a Edirol um-1 (1-in/1-out)... I don't really use a
computer too much in production - only for post-production and sample
editing, so i don't really have too much experience in midi-ing up the
computer - although i have no trouble with most things... 

I can use the PC to update my access virus etc. although this uses
.mid files rather than .syx - It's just the machinedrum which is
causing me grief. The PC has 1 gig ram too - but if you monitor the
performance in the task manager as you are trying to dump the
machinedrum to the PC you can see the memory usage growing rapidly up
to 800 meg sometimes - which seems very wrong to me.

Any midi-ox setting you can give me would be great - it sounds like
our pc's are roughly the same in terms of configuration...

thanks

Heidi

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Joe Simon <offlinedevice@y...>
wrote:
> 
> Hi Heidi,
>  
> Interesting.  I posted a similar issue a while back.  I'm having the
same problem with sysex_librarian under Mac osx.  But, I have no
problem with Midiox under XP.  I too, have a gig of RAM on my XP box.
 Under osx, I get error type 1 (length error) on about 2 sysex
records, when I do the md verify on the entire ram dump.
>  
> So, I use the XP box for the total dump, and the mac g4 for smaller
pattern+kit dumps.  All my production work is done on the g4, having
to switch back and forth is a pain.
>  
> I'm not at my machine, but I'll try and get my Midiox settings when
I get home tonight.
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>  
> What midi interface are you using?
>  
> Best regards,
>  
> Joe
> 
> gigolo_heidi <gigolo_heidi@y...> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I'm unsure whether this has been mentioned before - but I can't seem
> to find any information about it. I'm having trouble dumping sysex
> from my machinedrum - I think it may be a buffer issue - can someone
> tell me what these settings should be set to in MIDI-OX? 
> 
> Also I've been trying to dump everything at once (total dump) and I'm
> finding that my PC is struggling to keep up in terms of memory etc
> (although I have 1gig memory)? Is it possible that it is simply too
> much for my PC to receive a full dump and I have to split it into the
> pattern/kit dumps?
> 
> Please help
> 
> thanks
> 
> heidi
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [elektron] Midi-ox sysex settings

2004-10-26 by offlinedevice

Heidi,

From what you're telling me, I'm wondering if there's a problem with 
the Edirol driver in not being able to handle either the some of the 
large sysex records of the MD (the patterns with the parameter locks 
are large records), or that the entire sysex file is too large.  You 
might contact them.  It might be worth a try to increase your buffer 
size in MidiOx ( I provided my default settings to you in another 
message - those should be the same for you), but the entire MD dump 
is nowhere near hundreds of megs.  This sounds like some kind of 
memory leak.  I doubt the buffer size is going to matter.  Also, 
maybe contacting the author of MidiOx might get you pointed in the 
right direction.  Sorry I'm not much help.  Good luck.

Best Regards,

Joe

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "gigolo_heidi" 
<gigolo_heidi@y...> wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm just using a Edirol um-1 (1-in/1-out)... I don't really use a
> computer too much in production - only for post-production and 
sample
> editing, so i don't really have too much experience in midi-ing up 
the
> computer - although i have no trouble with most things... 
> 
> I can use the PC to update my access virus etc. although this uses
> .mid files rather than .syx - It's just the machinedrum which is
> causing me grief. The PC has 1 gig ram too - but if you monitor the
> performance in the task manager as you are trying to dump the
> machinedrum to the PC you can see the memory usage growing rapidly 
up
> to 800 meg sometimes - which seems very wrong to me.
> 
> Any midi-ox setting you can give me would be great - it sounds like
> our pc's are roughly the same in terms of configuration...
> 
> thanks
> 
> Heidi
> 
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Joe Simon 
<offlinedevice@y...>
> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Heidi,
> >  
> > Interesting.  I posted a similar issue a while back.  I'm having 
the
> same problem with sysex_librarian under Mac osx.  But, I have no
> problem with Midiox under XP.  I too, have a gig of RAM on my XP 
box.
>  Under osx, I get error type 1 (length error) on about 2 sysex
> records, when I do the md verify on the entire ram dump.
> >  
> > So, I use the XP box for the total dump, and the mac g4 for 
smaller
> pattern+kit dumps.  All my production work is done on the g4, having
> to switch back and forth is a pain.
> >  
> > I'm not at my machine, but I'll try and get my Midiox settings 
when
> I get home tonight.
> >  
> > What midi interface are you using?
> >  
> > Best regards,
> >  
> > Joe
> > 
> > gigolo_heidi <gigolo_heidi@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Hi everyone,
> > 
> > I'm unsure whether this has been mentioned before - but I can't 
seem
> > to find any information about it. I'm having trouble dumping sysex
> > from my machinedrum - I think it may be a buffer issue - can 
someone
> > tell me what these settings should be set to in MIDI-OX? 
> > 
> > Also I've been trying to dump everything at once (total dump) and 
I'm
> > finding that my PC is struggling to keep up in terms of memory etc
> > (although I have 1gig memory)? Is it possible that it is simply 
too
> > much for my PC to receive a full dump and I have to split it into 
the
> > pattern/kit dumps?
> > 
> > Please help
> > 
> > thanks
> > 
> > heidi
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [elektron] Midi-ox sysex settings

2004-10-26 by gigolo_heidi

That's what I was thinking too - there was definately something weird
going on if it's using that much memory - I'll try increasing the
buffer size tonight and see what happens... It seems to handle smaller
dumps okay - it's just the full one that fails - but i'm reluctant to
trust even the smaller ones given the problems i've been having... 

I'd be surprised if it was the midi device because i use it for other
similar dumps to an access virus and an evolver without any problems -
but i think the machinedrum might deal with substantially larger
files. It's probably just a glitch with the PC - it's relatively old
and perhaps it can't keep up with that much sysex data coming through
- that would explain the memory problems as I think the program
basically freezes but the machinedrum keeps sending data filling up
the memory and screwing everything up, as midi-ox can't free the
memory when it's frozen... 

I've got a mac powerbook as well, so if the bigger buffers don't work,
i'll give it a go with that - I guess that will help look into the
problem you were having too :)

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "offlinedevice"
<offlinedevice@y...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> 
> 
> Heidi,
> 
> From what you're telling me, I'm wondering if there's a problem with 
> the Edirol driver in not being able to handle either the some of the 
> large sysex records of the MD (the patterns with the parameter locks 
> are large records), or that the entire sysex file is too large.  You 
> might contact them.  It might be worth a try to increase your buffer 
> size in MidiOx ( I provided my default settings to you in another 
> message - those should be the same for you), but the entire MD dump 
> is nowhere near hundreds of megs.  This sounds like some kind of 
> memory leak.  I doubt the buffer size is going to matter.  Also, 
> maybe contacting the author of MidiOx might get you pointed in the 
> right direction.  Sorry I'm not much help.  Good luck.
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Joe
> 
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "gigolo_heidi" 
> <gigolo_heidi@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > I'm just using a Edirol um-1 (1-in/1-out)... I don't really use a
> > computer too much in production - only for post-production and 
> sample
> > editing, so i don't really have too much experience in midi-ing up 
> the
> > computer - although i have no trouble with most things... 
> > 
> > I can use the PC to update my access virus etc. although this uses
> > .mid files rather than .syx - It's just the machinedrum which is
> > causing me grief. The PC has 1 gig ram too - but if you monitor the
> > performance in the task manager as you are trying to dump the
> > machinedrum to the PC you can see the memory usage growing rapidly 
> up
> > to 800 meg sometimes - which seems very wrong to me.
> > 
> > Any midi-ox setting you can give me would be great - it sounds like
> > our pc's are roughly the same in terms of configuration...
> > 
> > thanks
> > 
> > Heidi
> > 
> > --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Joe Simon 
> <offlinedevice@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hi Heidi,
> > >  
> > > Interesting.  I posted a similar issue a while back.  I'm having 
> the
> > same problem with sysex_librarian under Mac osx.  But, I have no
> > problem with Midiox under XP.  I too, have a gig of RAM on my XP 
> box.
> >  Under osx, I get error type 1 (length error) on about 2 sysex
> > records, when I do the md verify on the entire ram dump.
> > >  
> > > So, I use the XP box for the total dump, and the mac g4 for 
> smaller
> > pattern+kit dumps.  All my production work is done on the g4, having
> > to switch back and forth is a pain.
> > >  
> > > I'm not at my machine, but I'll try and get my Midiox settings 
> when
> > I get home tonight.
> > >  
> > > What midi interface are you using?
> > >  
> > > Best regards,
> > >  
> > > Joe
> > > 
> > > gigolo_heidi <gigolo_heidi@y...> wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi everyone,
> > > 
> > > I'm unsure whether this has been mentioned before - but I can't 
> seem
> > > to find any information about it. I'm having trouble dumping sysex
> > > from my machinedrum - I think it may be a buffer issue - can 
> someone
> > > tell me what these settings should be set to in MIDI-OX? 
> > > 
> > > Also I've been trying to dump everything at once (total dump) and 
> I'm
> > > finding that my PC is struggling to keep up in terms of memory etc
> > > (although I have 1gig memory)? Is it possible that it is simply 
> too
> > > much for my PC to receive a full dump and I have to split it into 
> the
> > > pattern/kit dumps?
> > > 
> > > Please help
> > > 
> > > thanks
> > > 
> > > heidi
> > > 
> > > 
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Re: [elektron] Midi-ox sysex settings

2004-10-28 by Joe Simon

gigolo_heidi <gigolo_heidi@...> wrote:


That's what I was thinking too - there was definately something weird
going on if it's using that much memory - I'll try increasing the
buffer size tonight and see what happens... It seems to handle smaller
dumps okay - it's just the full one that fails - but i'm reluctant to
trust even the smaller ones given the problems i've been having... 


   Be sure to do a MD verify on those files before you 

   rely on them.

 


I'd be surprised if it was the midi device because i use it for other
similar dumps to an access virus and an evolver without any problems - but i think the machinedrum might deal with substantially larger
files. 

  I think that's true, plus, don't you use Soundiver for

   your virus, rather than midiox?

It's probably just a glitch with the PC - it's relatively old
and perhaps it can't keep up with that much sysex data coming through
- that would explain the memory problems as I think the program
basically freezes but the machinedrum keeps sending data filling up
the memory and screwing everything up, as midi-ox can't free the
memory when it's frozen... 


  I'm not sure I agree with that.  The MD will keep

  sending the data, but if the program has frozen, it

  won't do anything with the data.  It will just get

  ignored.

 

  Here's a thought.  Are you running any virus 

  (not access virus) protection software?  You might try

   disabling that.

 


I've got a mac powerbook as well, so if the bigger buffers don't work,
i'll give it a go with that - I guess that will help look into the
problem you were having too :)


  That would be a great help for me.  Thanks!


--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "offlinedevice"
<offlinedevice@y...> wrote:
> 
> 
> Heidi,
> 
> From what you're telling me, I'm wondering if there's a problem with 
> the Edirol driver in not being able to handle either the some of the 
> large sysex records of the MD (the patterns with the parameter locks 
> are large records), or that the entire sysex file is too large.  You 
> might contact them.  It might be worth a try to increase your buffer 
> size in MidiOx ( I provided my default settings to you in another 
> message - those should be the same for you), but the entire MD dump 
> is nowhere near hundreds of megs.  This sounds like some kind of 
> memory leak.  I doubt the buffer size is going to matter.  Also, 
> maybe contacting the author of MidiOx might get you pointed in the 
> right direction.  Sorry I'm not much help.  Good luck.
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Joe
> 
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "gigolo_heidi" 
> <gigolo_heidi@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > I'm just using a Edirol um-1 (1-in/1-out)... I don't really use a
> > computer too much in production - only for post-production and 
> sample
> > editing, so i don't really have too much experience in midi-ing up 
> the
> > computer - although i have no trouble with most things... 
> > 
> > I can use the PC to update my access virus etc. although this uses
> > .mid files rather than .syx - It's just the machinedrum which is
> > causing me grief. The PC has 1 gig ram too - but if you monitor the
> > performance in the task manager as you are trying to dump the
> > machinedrum to the PC you can see the memory usage growing rapidly 
> up
> > to 800 meg sometimes - which seems very wrong to me.
> > 
> > Any midi-ox setting you can give me would be great - it sounds like
> > our pc's are roughly the same in terms of configuration...
> > 
> > thanks
> > 
> > Heidi
> > 
> > --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Joe Simon 
> <offlinedevice@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hi Heidi,
> > >  
> > > Interesting.  I posted a similar issue a while back.  I'm having 
> the
> > same problem with sysex_librarian under Mac osx.  But, I have no
> > problem with Midiox under XP.  I too, have a gig of RAM on my XP 
> box.
> >  Under osx, I get error type 1 (length error) on about 2 sysex
> > records, when I do the md verify on the entire ram dump.
> > >  
> > > So, I use the XP box for the total dump, and the mac g4 for 
> smaller
> > pattern+kit dumps.  All my production work is done on the g4, having
> > to switch back and forth is a pain.
> > >  
> > > I'm not at my machine, but I'll try and get my Midiox settings 
> when
> > I get home tonight.
> > >  
> > > What midi interface are you using?
> > >  
> > > Best regards,
> > >  
> > > Joe
> > > 
> > > gigolo_heidi <gigolo_heidi@y...> wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi everyone,
> > > 
> > > I'm unsure whether this has been mentioned before - but I can't 
> seem
> > > to find any information about it. I'm having trouble dumping sysex
> > > from my machinedrum - I think it may be a buffer issue - can 
> someone
> > > tell me what these settings should be set to in MIDI-OX? 
> > > 
> > > Also I've been trying to dump everything at once (total dump) and 
> I'm
> > > finding that my PC is struggling to keep up in terms of memory etc
> > > (although I have 1gig memory)? Is it possible that it is simply 
> too
> > > much for my PC to receive a full dump and I have to split it into 
> the
> > > pattern/kit dumps?
> > > 
> > > Please help
> > > 
> > > thanks
> > > 
> > > heidi
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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