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anybody any idea if there's going to be another MD OS update?

RE: [elektron] anybody any idea if there's going to be another MD OSupdate?

2002-02-28 by Cryogenick

Well, the just finished the 1.10 os...give them some time eh?



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Subject: [elektron] anybody any idea if there's going to be another MD
OSupdate?

Just wondering if there's going to be another update, and if so,
what are they going to update. More hi- hat stuff would be nice :)





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Re: anybody any idea if there's going to be another MD OS update?

2002-03-01 by analogback

--- In elektron-users@y..., "buzzard2uk" <nosebleed@a...> wrote:
> Just wondering if there's going to be another update, and if so, 
> what are they going to update. More hi- hat stuff would be nice :)

i think the next update iz gonna be 3 midi channels on my sid :} 
WWOOOO HHOOOOO bring it on ELEKTRONNN!!!

Re: [elektron] i want a new SidStation OS too...

2002-03-01 by Doctor Whammo

I dont know if Elektron plans on ever updating the
Sid's OS again, but it sure would be nice.  There has
to be some more features they can cram in there...  Im
always supportive of making a good thing even better!

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Re: [elektron] i want a new SidStation OS too...

2002-03-01 by inform3r

on 3/1/02 12:00 PM, Doctor Whammo at docwhammo@... wrote:

> I dont know if Elektron plans on ever updating the
> Sid's OS again, but it sure would be nice.  There has
> to be some more features they can cram in there...  Im
> always supportive of making a good thing even better!

    It seems like ever since the Machinedrum came out Elektron could care
less about the Sidstation.

                -John

Re: [elektron] i want a new SidStation OS too...

2002-03-01 by Joeri Vankeirsbilck

>
>
>>I dont know if Elektron plans on ever updating the
>>Sid's OS again, but it sure would be nice.  There has
>>to be some more features they can cram in there...  Im
>>always supportive of making a good thing even better!
>>
>It seems like ever since the Machinedrum came out Elektron could care
>less about the Sidstation.
>
Isn't it normal that a company first wants to make sure its new product 
is perfect, before adding features to older products? And by the way, 
Elektron have recently introduced a new soundset for the SidStation, so 
they do care for their Sid customers.

Bye,
Joeri

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Re: [elektron] i want a new SidStation OS too...

2002-03-01 by - funkelectric -

> Elektron have recently introduced a new soundset for the SidStation, so 
> they do care for their Sid customers.
> 

Who is really cool Joeri :)

Btw, you going to the messe this year?

Cheers

Erik

Re: [elektron] i want a new SidStation OS too...

2002-03-01 by Janne G:son Berg

On Fri Mar 01 2002, Joeri Vankeirsbilck <joeri@...> wrote:

> Isn't it normal that a company first wants to make sure its new product 
> is perfect, before adding features to older products? And by the way, 
> Elektron have recently introduced a new soundset for the SidStation, so 
> they do care for their Sid customers.

Totally agree!

Technically, adding the feature for playing the three oscillatorsin
the SID-chip independently via midi shouldn't be that hard. User
interface is totally another thing. How should users interact with the
new functionality?

How is that functionality to be added into the existing OS? Is there
enough free memory to fit in everything? Should there be another
totally different set if patches for the tripple midi control mode?
Editing those patches? Do we have to remove 50 of the existing patches
to make room for the new patches?

So, please, give some thought to the amount of work that it takes to
develop some new functionality for something that already exists, then
think some more on how much work it is to come up with a new
product...

/Janne

P.S. I've been sequencing the SID from the MD and it is really fun! D.S.

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Re: [elektron] i want a new SidStation OS too...

2002-03-01 by Joeri Vankeirsbilck

>
>
>P.S. I've been sequencing the SID from the MD and it is really fun! D.S.
>
I still can't believe how massive that new MD bassdrum is. Fantastic. :-)))

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Re: [elektron] i want a new SidStation OS too...

2002-03-01 by Joeri Vankeirsbilck

>
>
>Btw, you going to the messe this year?
>
Of course! :-) How 'bout you?
I'll be there on Thursday and Friday. I'm staying in Novotel Frankfurt 
West, 5 minutes from the Messe.

We'll be lucky this year: no more hotel rooms to check out the MD. :-))) 
 This year, Elektron has a booth! They have a booth together with 
Sherman, Jomox and several other hardware manufacturers.

Cheers,
Joeri

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Re: [elektron] i want a new SidStation OS too...

2002-03-01 by Janne G:son Berg

On Fri Mar 01 2002, Joeri Vankeirsbilck <joeri@...> wrote:

> I still can't believe how massive that new MD bassdrum is. Fantastic. :-)))

Word! Intant stomp-a-thon! Especially when using the hold
parameter. The distortion though sounds a bit too "digital" for my
ears. I think I need to use LFOs to affect some parameters to make it
sound not as static.

Right now I am mostly making weird electronic percussion sounds with
the MD. Add some compression (I really like the built in compressor)
and it kicks like a mule!

/Janne

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Re: [elektron] i want a new SidStation OS too...

2002-03-01 by synthblock

>>This year, Elektron has a booth! They have a booth together with 
Sherman, Jomox and several other hardware manufacturers.<<

Info. at www.superbooth.com

regards,
jonathan
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Re: [elektron] i want a new SidStation OS too...

2002-03-01 by - funkelectric -

> Of course! :-) How 'bout you?
> I'll be there on Thursday and Friday. I'm staying in Novotel Frankfurt 
> West, 5 minutes from the Messe.

Going from 14th to saturday 16th. 

> 
> We'll be lucky this year: no more hotel rooms to check out the MD. :-))) 
>  This year, Elektron has a booth! They have a booth together with 
> Sherman, Jomox and several other hardware manufacturers.
> 

Yeah I seen that! :) but well the Elektron's room was nice .... lol

Re: [elektron] i want a new SidStation OS too...

2002-03-01 by Joeri Vankeirsbilck

>
>
>>I still can't believe how massive that new MD bassdrum is. Fantastic. :-)))
>>
>Word! Intant stomp-a-thon! Especially when using the hold
>parameter. The distortion though sounds a bit too "digital" for my
>ears.
>
Exactly my thoughts! However, if you use the distortion with the dirt 
parameter, you obtain completely new sounds that no other synth does. If 
I use the distortion, I use it in that context.


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Re: [elektron] i want a new SidStation OS too...

2002-03-01 by Rob

I agree, that's why I don't want to receive any more messages.  I have a SID
and I don't have a MD.  All that is ever discussed is the MD :-(

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Subject: Re: [elektron] i want a new SidStation OS too...


> on 3/1/02 12:00 PM, Doctor Whammo at docwhammo@... wrote:
>
> > I dont know if Elektron plans on ever updating the
> > Sid's OS again, but it sure would be nice.  There has
> > to be some more features they can cram in there...  Im
> > always supportive of making a good thing even better!
>
>     It seems like ever since the Machinedrum came out Elektron could care
> less about the Sidstation.
>
>                 -John
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Re: [elektron] i want a new SidStation OS too...

2002-03-01 by Rob

Yes and No, you shouldn't just drop support for existing products

----- Original Message -----
From: "Janne G:son Berg" <d3berg@...>
To: <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: [elektron] i want a new SidStation OS too...


> On Fri Mar 01 2002, Joeri Vankeirsbilck <joeri@...> wrote:
>
> > Isn't it normal that a company first wants to make sure its new product
> > is perfect, before adding features to older products? And by the way,
> > Elektron have recently introduced a new soundset for the SidStation, so
> > they do care for their Sid customers.
>
> Totally agree!
>
> Technically, adding the feature for playing the three oscillatorsin
> the SID-chip independently via midi shouldn't be that hard. User
> interface is totally another thing. How should users interact with the
> new functionality?
>
> How is that functionality to be added into the existing OS? Is there
> enough free memory to fit in everything? Should there be another
> totally different set if patches for the tripple midi control mode?
> Editing those patches? Do we have to remove 50 of the existing patches
> to make room for the new patches?
>
> So, please, give some thought to the amount of work that it takes to
> develop some new functionality for something that already exists, then
> think some more on how much work it is to come up with a new
> product...
>
> /Janne
>
> P.S. I've been sequencing the SID from the MD and it is really fun! D.S.
>
> --
> Janne G:son Berg, d3berg@...
http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d3berg
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Re: [elektron] i want a new SidStation OS too...

2002-03-01 by Corey Appleby

On Friday, March 1, 2002, at 04:19 PM, Rob wrote:

> Yes and No, you shouldn't just drop support for existing products

Well, I wouldn't say they've dropped support.  They just released a new 
bank of patches for the Sid.  And even if I were claiming they'd dropped 
support, I wouldn't blame the MD for it.  I bought my sidstation over 1 
year before the MD was released, and they haven't released an OS update 
for it yet.  They worked out all the bugs, which is all I can ask for.  
Adding extra features isn't really a requirement for me, since I bought 
it with the feature set it has.

Not to mention the MD is a more versatile piece, and most likely appeals 
to a wider market.  It makes sense for them to concentrate on that for 
now, and deal with the niche market the sidstation aims for later.  The 
MD has the potential to be huge (especially for a company as small as 
elektron.)  I'd like to see Elektron come out with a stripped down 
version of the MD at a cheaper price (maybe fewer effects, less knobs, 
only 2 outs, 1 in, and maybe fewer tracks) to get people introduced to 
their gear.  Imagine if in 2 years we'll all be listening to Kid SPS-1's 
latest album :)

Now having said that, I would like to see midi triggering of the 
individual oscillators added.  I have no idea if that's feasible tho.

c.

Re: [elektron] i want a new SidStation OS too...

2002-03-01 by NiftyTrick

I have a newer version of the os than what is on the site.  I wonder if they do have a newer version, just havn't updated the site with it.

As for the stripped down version of the md... I don't think I would like that.  I'm sure they would sell more, but I'm always for quality, not quantity.  The machinedrum is what it is because Elektron is a good company.  If they were to strip it down to sell more, they would be like microsoft... trying to get everyone to buy a stripped down version of something so they could profit from it.  I would much rather see them work on a keyboard, or on a sequencing groove box :)

-jared
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  Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 2:56 PM
  Subject: Re: [elektron] i want a new SidStation OS too...


  On Friday, March 1, 2002, at 04:19 PM, Rob wrote:

  > Yes and No, you shouldn't just drop support for existing products

  Well, I wouldn't say they've dropped support.  They just released a new 
  bank of patches for the Sid.  And even if I were claiming they'd dropped 
  support, I wouldn't blame the MD for it.  I bought my sidstation over 1 
  year before the MD was released, and they haven't released an OS update 
  for it yet.  They worked out all the bugs, which is all I can ask for.  
  Adding extra features isn't really a requirement for me, since I bought 
  it with the feature set it has.

  Not to mention the MD is a more versatile piece, and most likely appeals 
  to a wider market.  It makes sense for them to concentrate on that for 
  now, and deal with the niche market the sidstation aims for later.  The 
  MD has the potential to be huge (especially for a company as small as 
  elektron.)  I'd like to see Elektron come out with a stripped down 
  version of the MD at a cheaper price (maybe fewer effects, less knobs, 
  only 2 outs, 1 in, and maybe fewer tracks) to get people introduced to 
  their gear.  Imagine if in 2 years we'll all be listening to Kid SPS-1's 
  latest album :)

  Now having said that, I would like to see midi triggering of the 
  individual oscillators added.  I have no idea if that's feasible tho.

  c.


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Re: [elektron] i want a new SidStation OS too...

2002-03-01 by - funkelectric -

Better than 1.10 R33 ?
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Subject: Re: [elektron] i want a new SidStation OS too...


> I have a newer version of the os than what is on the site.  I wonder if
they do have a newer version, just havn't updated the site with it.
>

Re: [elektron] i want a new SidStation OS too...

2002-03-01 by NiftyTrick

My sid has 1.11 R34

-jared
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  Better than 1.10 R33 ?

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  > I have a newer version of the os than what is on the site.  I wonder if
  they do have a newer version, just havn't updated the site with it.
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Re: [elektron] i want a new SidStation OS too...

2002-03-01 by (El Dee Bee) Shaughn Struble

At 03:05 PM 3/1/02 -0800, you wrote:
>My sid has 1.11 R34
>
Wha?

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Re: [elektron] i want a new SidStation OS too...

2002-03-01 by Corey Appleby

On Friday, March 1, 2002, at 05:59 PM, NiftyTrick wrote:

> I have a newer version of the os than what is on the site.  I wonder if 
> they do have a newer version, just havn't updated the site with it.

Hm, the version I have is the latest listed on the site.

> As for the stripped down version of the md... I don't think I would 
> like that.  I'm sure they would sell more, but I'm always for quality, 
> not

Right.   I'm not saying sacrifice quality.  But there are a lot of 
people I know who are drooling over the MD but can't afford it.  I also 
think a miniature version of the MD would be so damn cute! :)

> microsoft... trying to get everyone to buy a stripped down version of 
> something so they could profit from it.  I would much rather see them 
> work on a keyboard, or on a sequencing groove box :)

I agree.  Although my preference would be a keyboard or rackmount 
synth.  Or maybe a sampler.  Or even a nice effects box (they seem to be 
damn good at making effects.)  Something different but still useful 
(granular synth? :)  Or maybe some competition for the sherman 
filterbank :)

c.

Re: [elektron] i want a new SidStation OS too...

2002-03-01 by NiftyTrick

That's right.  I turn on my sidstation and it boots up, flashes the elektron logo, and says, OS 1.11 R34
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  At 03:05 PM 3/1/02 -0800, you wrote:
  >My sid has 1.11 R34
  >
  Wha?

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Re: [elektron] i want a new SidStation OS too...

2002-03-02 by (El Dee Bee) Shaughn Struble

The writer see my stuff?

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Re: [elektron] i want a new SidStation OS too...

2002-03-02 by (El Dee Bee) Shaughn Struble

Ick.  REsponded to the wrong message.  Ignore me. :)

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Re: [elektron] i want a new SidStation OS too...

2002-03-02 by Janne G:son Berg

On Fri Mar 01 2002, Rob <robholding@...> wrote:

> Yes and No, you shouldn't just drop support for existing products

Elektron haven't dropped support for the Sidstation. They are still
selling it. They have 314 sid chips in stock. What do you consider
support? Regular OS updates? That is one thing you haven't got because
they have been busy. What else?

As far as I know Elektron have been extremely pressed getting the
Machinedrum out, no time for anything else. The word "vacation"
haven't existed in their vocabulary for two years...

/Janne

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Re: [elektron] i want a new SidStation OS too...

2002-03-02 by Rob

don't get so touchy!!!
All im saying is that its MD this and MD that.  Don't forget about the
SID....

if you read what my reply was to, you would have understood what I ment!! I
didn't say they had!!

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Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: [elektron] i want a new SidStation OS too...


> On Fri Mar 01 2002, Rob <robholding@...> wrote:
>
> > Yes and No, you shouldn't just drop support for existing products
>
> Elektron haven't dropped support for the Sidstation. They are still
> selling it. They have 314 sid chips in stock. What do you consider
> support? Regular OS updates? That is one thing you haven't got because
> they have been busy. What else?
>
> As far as I know Elektron have been extremely pressed getting the
> Machinedrum out, no time for anything else. The word "vacation"
> haven't existed in their vocabulary for two years...
>
> /Janne
>
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Re: [elektron] i want a new SidStation OS too...

2002-03-02 by Janne G:son Berg

On Sat Mar 02 2002, Rob <robholding@...> wrote:

> All im saying is that its MD this and MD that.  Don't forget about the
> SID....

Not a chance! :)

Now that I've got a midi-sequncer that I like (Machinedrum actually)
I've started using the SID lots more! I just don't want to sit in
front of a computer when making music.

The sound of the SID is to me very much trance, and electropop. Not
being that much into trance, the electropop part is what I love from
it! That chip is so evil when it comes to the strange and distorted
frequencis that creeps out of it! If you still think it is too soft,
add distortion. It roars.

> if you read what my reply was to, you would have understood what I ment!! I
> didn't say they had!!

Your mail was in reply to my mail. I got the impression that you
thought they had dropped support for the Sidstation. My apologies!

/Janne

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Re: [elektron] i want a new SidStation OS too...

2002-03-02 by Joeri Vankeirsbilck

Dr. Whammo wrote:

>I wanna know why everyone gets so defensive when people bring up the desire
>for possible new features on the SID.  Its seems like a personal affront!!
>
Perhaps those people (e.g. me) just wanted to explain their point of view?


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Re: i want a new SidStation OS too...

2002-03-03 by phonophobie

hi everybody!
i think some things could be better and some new features would be 
nice. midi oscilators is only one advantige. if somebody from 
elektron would think deep about new possibilties much things could be 
done...
i remember some guys from elektron keep in touch in this mailinglist 
in the past. HELLO! elektron are you still there! Please give us a 
reply ore just a note. haaaaaaallooooo ???  :O
kind regards :)
_phono

Re: i want a new SidStation OS too...

2002-03-04 by Aaron J. Grier

On Sat, Mar 02, 2002 at 04:00:56PM -0500, Dr. Whammo wrote:
> I wanna know why everyone gets so defensive when people bring up the
> desire for possible new features on the SID.  Its seems like a
> personal affront!!

elektron is kind of like the SID chip...  capable of really cool stuff,
but definitely with some drawbacks.  people identify closely with both
so of course when one is criticized, it can be taken personally.

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Re: [elektron] Re: i want a new SidStation OS too...

2002-03-04 by Corey Appleby

On Sunday, March 3, 2002, at 11:04 PM, Aaron J. Grier wrote:

>       "[...] I generally haven't found IDM guys to be very good
>        live acts, most of them just sit down at their laptop and
>        tweak reaktor."  -- Brandon Daniel

I don't know how far spread the phrase is yet, but that style of 
performance is apparently worthy of it's own genre name.

Tablecore.

Heh.

c.

So-called live-acts

2002-03-04 by CraZ

That's putting it nicely. In my opinion, a live-act can be very interesting 
and exciting... if it really IS a live act. I've seen Mike Dearborn do a 
live set.. with all the neat equipment we all love. No laptops here. But.. 
the good man never touched any of his synths. It gets worse.. switching 
from one song to another.. building up climaxes.. all without lifting a hand.

My respect goes out to the real cowboys out there. Who ride horses in stead 
of pickup trucks !

CraZ



At 05:11 2002.03.04, Corey Appleby wrote:
>On Sunday, March 3, 2002, at 11:04 PM, Aaron J. Grier wrote:
>
> >       "[...] I generally haven't found IDM guys to be very good
> >        live acts, most of them just sit down at their laptop and
> >        tweak reaktor."  -- Brandon Daniel
>
>I don't know how far spread the phrase is yet, but that style of
>performance is apparently worthy of it's own genre name.
>
>Tablecore.
>
>Heh.
>
>c.
>
>


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RE: [elektron] So-called live-acts

2002-03-05 by Zombie Nation

You?re right!
Laptop-Liveacts are only "allowed" with ambient in my opinion.
I don?t understand what?s the fun with looking where your cursor is.
And people that play from CD are not worth wasting a word.

Splank
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-----Original Message-----
From: CraZ [mailto:craz@...]
Sent: Dienstag, 5. Marz 2002 00:18
To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [elektron] So-called live-acts


That's putting it nicely. In my opinion, a live-act can be very interesting
and exciting... if it really IS a live act. I've seen Mike Dearborn do a
live set.. with all the neat equipment we all love. No laptops here. But..
the good man never touched any of his synths. It gets worse.. switching
from one song to another.. building up climaxes.. all without lifting a
hand.

My respect goes out to the real cowboys out there. Who ride horses in stead
of pickup trucks !

CraZ



At 05:11 2002.03.04, Corey Appleby wrote:
>On Sunday, March 3, 2002, at 11:04 PM, Aaron J. Grier wrote:
>
> >       "[...] I generally haven't found IDM guys to be very good
> >        live acts, most of them just sit down at their laptop and
> >        tweak reaktor."  -- Brandon Daniel
>
>I don't know how far spread the phrase is yet, but that style of
>performance is apparently worthy of it's own genre name.
>
>Tablecore.
>
>Heh.
>
>c.
>
>


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RE: So-called live-acts

2002-03-06 by Robert Babicz / ROB ACID

my Live-Setup is : TR909,Machinedrum,Tb303,Nord Modular,lots of FX 
and a powerbook with Ableton LIVE!, (before it was a MPC3000, but 
after 6 Year i need some new toys).

And i play really LIVE. I am improvising, so i dont know how the night will be.

check this out:
http://www.dj-sets.com/djs/sets.php3?dj=20#1


big greetz to all elektron fans
RobAcid


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RE: [elektron] So-called live-acts

2002-03-06 by tonsil@sgi.net

This is an interesting thread to me, because I'm thinking about 
putting together a live act, more towards industrial / experimental, 
but what is your opinion with this? Where can a group draw the line 
between prefab and live and still be okay? Does it depend on the 
kind of music?

I'm not even sure where I stand. I saw Juno Reactor, with a lot of 
prerecorded material, but then there was the whole tribal core 
pounding out the beats on drum kits and African percussion. It 
made for a good live set, even if much of the music came from 
disc. On the other side, I saw Nitzer Ebb once do a horrible set, 
with just three guys standing around doing as little as possible, 
occasionally pushing "the big red button" to start the next song. 

But what can you do? If you tried to play everything live, some of 
the music just wouldn't come out right. Trying to recreate a 
sequence that's a repetition of sixteenth notes quantized exactly to 
the beat might be difficult. Sometimes you need that machinelike 
quality only a sequencer can give. Same with drum machines. Live 
drummers kick ass, but it's a totally different feel. 

I guess personally I like that hybridization of man and machine, 
that balance between preset and improv that makes music come 
alive. But then again it comes down to the kind of music involved...

Re: [elektron] RE: So-called live-acts

2002-03-07 by CraZ

Hey Rob,

I didn't know you switched to Ableton Live! Recently I heard the 'Acid 
Junkies' are testing a similar approach to take on stage. And personally, I 
am very interested in giving it a go.

Is the transition from an MPC2000XL easy.. or is it pretty much a 'Start 
form scratch' thing.

Cheers,

CraZ



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At 15:12 2002.03.06, you wrote:
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>my Live-Setup is : TR909,Machinedrum,Tb303,Nord Modular,lots of FX
>and a powerbook with Ableton LIVE!, (before it was a MPC3000, but
>after 6 Year i need some new toys).
>
>And i play really LIVE. I am improvising, so i dont know how the night 
>will be.
>
>check this out:
><http://www.dj-sets.com/djs/sets.php3?dj=20#1>http://www.dj-sets.com/djs/sets.php3?dj=20#1
>
>
>big greetz to all elektron fans
>RobAcid
>
>
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Re: [elektron] RE: So-called live-acts

2002-03-07 by robert@egroups.00008.org

>I didn't know you switched to Ableton Live! Recently I heard the 'Acid
 >Junkies' are testing a similar approach to take on stage.

Interface, a Dutch electronic audio/music magazine (www.interface.nl),
reviewed Live last month. The review was done by Stefan Robbers,
coincidently one of the Acid Junkies :)

 >And personally, I am very interested in giving it a go.

Try the demo, it gives you a good idea of the program. Once I played with
the demo a bit, I couldn't wait to order it (online, direct from Ableton's
website, arrived within a week).

I run it on OSX, on which Live tends to be very stable, albeit somewhat
buggy at times (I've had it crash on certain .WAV files for no apparent
reason).

 >Is the transition from an MPC2000XL easy.. or is it pretty much a 'Start
 >form scratch' thing.

I'm not an MPC2000 man myself, but using Live is eerily easy to learn :)

                                                                    robert

Re: [elektron] RE: So-called live-acts

2002-03-08 by Flavio Alvarez

Rob, congrations on really nice music and a really
nice sound. And thanks for the awsome site. I've been
listening to Speedy J, Pacou, Adam Beyer and you all
day. All my co-workers are pissed.

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