Elektron Musical Instruments

Hey guys :)

Im just curious if its effective to use my Sidstation in a Cubase 5 
Environment.
Before i purchase the app, please share your experience with me.

Thank you

Lol.......... Ha ha haaaaaaa... Is he JOKING??????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tell me my dear... This is a joke rigth???

Hey isn't supposed any sizer/sampler/Fx or wattever instrument on this world
to work with a sequencer??? ??? ???
Of course you can play with live also... This is called a live
performance...
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh i am loosing my time...

Ok Kid... Haven't you ever seen a software or machine and you say yourself
ok i don't know how this is called but it is supposed to do this or this or
this...
Sooooo... i need it... Naaa??? NEVER????

Ok i seem a bit rude...
Man............ Looooool....   =; D
In your home-studio the sequencer is the center!!! So just make  achoice
between Cubase, Logic, Digital Performer, Sonar, Live or Pro Tools if you
have the money (BUT there is a free limited version) or a Hardware dedicated
sequencer... Or a Porta Studio like Yamaha AW4416, or... ... ... ...

Take care and sorry again...
Moreno

> Hey guys :)
>
> Im just curious if its effective to use my Sidstation in a Cubase 5
> Environment.
> Before i purchase the app, please share your experience with me.
>
> Thank you

--- In elektron-users@y..., "evilatombender" <jetsetradio@w...> wrote:
> Im just curious if its effective to use my Sidstation in a Cubase 5 
> Environment.
> Before i purchase the app, please share your experience with me.


  I think you asked the wrong question...

  The answer is:  Sure it's effective to use it with Cubase 5.

  But the real question you need to ask is:  Is Cubase 5 the right 
environment for you?  I wouldn't buy the app, if I were you, without 
trying it and all the other available sequencers in your price range 
first and decide which one you like most.  All of them have plusses 
and minuses and in the end the one that you can use best is the one 
that's going to work best for you.

HEY Man... come to say that in front of me...
But YOU have a problem to become so quickly angry and say so bad scary words
wooouuuuu...
I was just joking and i appolegized at the end!!!
and if you read carefully you are saying exactly what i did!!!

HEY... Does Wayne has a problem in his self person??????????? Psssshhhh...

Moreno


> -----Original Message-----
> From: wayneferrer [mailto:krupir@...]
> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 8:18 PM
> To: RENGA Moreno
> Subject: Re: [elektron] I want to use my Sidstation with Cubase 5 - Does
> it make sense?
>
> Shut up man ! Go get your bloody rack attack and stop playing Mister
> Master MF !
> The idea is if you want to play more than the 64 steps offered by the
> wavetables and plan to record midi sequences, you will need a
> sequencer, so cubase or any other will do. But nothing stops you from
> recording live typing melodies on your midi keyboard (taht one's for
> you RENGA !)
> Yo-
> Enjoy-
>
> > Lol.......... Ha ha haaaaaaa... Is he
> > JOKING??????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > Tell me my dear... This is a joke rigth???
> > Hey isn't supposed any sizer/sampler/Fx or wattever instrument on
> > this world
> > to work with a sequencer??? ??? ???
> > Of course you can play with live also... This is called a live
performance...
> > Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh i am loosing my time...
> > Ok Kid... Haven't you ever seen a software or machine and you say
yourself
> > ok i don't know how this is called but it is supposed to do this or this
or this...
> > Sooooo... i need it... Naaa??? NEVER????
> > Ok i seem a bit rude...
> > Man............ Looooool....   =; D
> > In your home-studio the sequencer is the center!!! So just make a choice
> > between Cubase, Logic, Digital Performer, Sonar, Live or Pro Tools
> > if you
> > have the money (BUT there is a free limited version) or a Hardware
dedicated

> > sequencer... Or a Porta Studio like Yamaha AW4416, or... ... ... ...
> > Take care and sorry again...
> > Moreno
> >

> > > Hey guys :)
> > > Im just curious if its effective to use my Sidstation in a Cubase 5
> > > Environment.
> > > Before i purchase the app, please share your experience with me.
> > >
> > > Thank you

Sorry, Dr W., but I have to disagree a little. You can
start a Protools package with an M-box. You get
Protools LE, a nice in/out portable rig and it will
cost you less than $500 (And I'm not contesting your
opinion of protools's MIDI capabilities). Of course,
later on, protools plug in are crazy expensive.
In terms of learning Sonar because it's "easier", I'd
say it's easier learning ONE program ever, and not
learning one now, one next year, and so on. If you
work in PC I'd say Cubase. If you work Mac, think
about it a little bit. Still, that Mbox looks very
appealing.






--- "Dr. W." <rajajuju@...> wrote:
>  So just make  achoice
> >between Cubase, Logic, Digital Performer, Sonar,
> Live or Pro Tools if you
> >have the money
> 
> Pro-Tools is not a sequencer, it is a DAW (although
> it has MIDI
> capabilities).  Pro-tools MIDI is pretty sub-par as
> far as features go,
> although HD has some improvements.  Nevertheless,
> you DO NOT want to buy
> pro-tools for MIDI.  Pro-tools is for very high end
> pro audio - and it costs
> a shitload of money to get a rig up and running. 
> The free version sucks
> balls and shouldnt be used for anything except
> instruction.
> 
> Evilataombender, since you are clearly a beginner,
> you should probably go
> with Sonar.  I think it is probably the most user
> friendly of the bunch.
> Its not the best, but you should start simple.
> 
> 


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So just make  achoice
>between Cubase, Logic, Digital Performer, Sonar, Live or Pro Tools if you
>have the money

Pro-Tools is not a sequencer, it is a DAW (although it has MIDI
capabilities).  Pro-tools MIDI is pretty sub-par as far as features go,
although HD has some improvements.  Nevertheless, you DO NOT want to buy
pro-tools for MIDI.  Pro-tools is for very high end pro audio - and it costs
a shitload of money to get a rig up and running.  The free version sucks
balls and shouldnt be used for anything except instruction.

Evilataombender, since you are clearly a beginner, you should probably go
with Sonar.  I think it is probably the most user friendly of the bunch.
Its not the best, but you should start simple.

> > So just make  achoice
> >between Cubase, Logic, Digital Performer, Sonar, Live or Pro Tools if you
> >have the money

> Pro-Tools is not a sequencer, it is a DAW (although it has MIDI
> capabilities).

You know what i ment...

> Pro-tools MIDI is pretty sub-par as far as features go,
> although HD has some improvements.  Nevertheless, you DO NOT want to buy
> pro-tools for MIDI.  Pro-tools is for very high end pro audio -
> and it costs
> a shitload of money to get a rig up and running.  The free version sucks
> balls and shouldnt be used for anything except instruction.

I totaly agree with you...

> Evilataombender, since you are clearly a beginner, you should probably go
> with Sonar.  I think it is probably the most user friendly of the bunch.
> Its not the best, but you should start simple.

The problem with Sonar is that there aren't much Fxs and i never understood
why they didn't put any Dynamic tools in the original package... Maybe this
has changed since Sonar... but in the past it was not the case... So if he
goes with Sonar he would have to buy extra FXs... But anyway the total price
Sonar+Dynamic Fxs compared with Cubase/Logic/DP's price would be nearly the
same...
And... a good advise Evilataombender, buy it second hand just in case you
would change of mind later.

Moreno

At 07:54 PM 9/13/2002 -0700, Dr. W. wrote:
> >Sorry, Dr W., but I have to disagree a little. You can
> >start a Protools package with an M-box. You get
> >Protools LE, a nice in/out portable rig and it will
> >cost you less than $500
>
>Well, good luck getting it to run on any non Digi soundcard.  And on that
>version you are very limited in your track count.  And you cant run VST
>stuff, so you have to buy the very expensive plugs.
>
>Evil, its best to learn small and then upgrade so you can broaden your
>perspective, but I suppose you could just jump into Cubase SX.  Its probably
>the best sequencer out there, although I prefer Nuendo.  Try out some demos.

I would tend to agree.  Most importantly, each individual has to look at 
what they're attempting to accomplish with their software.  In my case, I 
use MIDI and VST/VSTi's almost exclusively.  So, buying ProTools -- with 
it's emphasis on audio recording and hampered MIDI facilities -- would be a 
waste of money for my situation.  A package like Cubase -- which 
specializes in MIDI manipulation and VST support -- is a much better choice 
given my architecture.  However, if I were instead focusing on straight 
audio recording and trying to emulate a multi-track recording studio on my 
computer, I'd take a hard look at ProTools as that's where its strengths lie.

Since the original question dealt with program compatibilities in using 
MIDI with the Sidstation, I'd probably assume on the given information that 
a sequencer package like Cubase would make a much better choice than 
ProTools.  If that is indeed a proper assumption, it might also be worth 
checking out the current issue of "Computer Music" (issue #50) as one of 
the features is a shootout pitting a few of the common budget sequencers 
against each other.  That could give some leads as far as where next to go 
in the purchasing cycle.

         -c-

_____
"i want to reach my hand into the dark and *feel* what reaches back"
                                                 -recoil

>Sorry, Dr W., but I have to disagree a little. You can
>start a Protools package with an M-box. You get
>Protools LE, a nice in/out portable rig and it will
>cost you less than $500

Well, good luck getting it to run on any non Digi soundcard.  And on that
version you are very limited in your track count.  And you cant run VST
stuff, so you have to buy the very expensive plugs.

Evil, its best to learn small and then upgrade so you can broaden your
perspective, but I suppose you could just jump into Cubase SX.  Its probably
the best sequencer out there, although I prefer Nuendo.  Try out some demos.