Elektron Musical Instruments

A new OS is in the making.
I hope it brings a controlable Accent-Level for all steps.

Send your ideas for a new OS to electron !!!


Cheers waveformer

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "waveformer74" 
<waveformer@s...> wrote:
> A new OS is in the making.
> I hope it brings a controlable Accent-Level for all steps.
> 
> Send your ideas for a new OS to electron !!!

We have already collected feature suggestions and bug list for MD OS 
update some weeks ago. You can find it from older messages. It was 
also posted to Elekronn. I can't remember if it had that accent-idea 
allready (there were about 30 feature suggestions(!) and 10 bugs), 
but nothing stops you from sending it to Elektron.

Toni

just got my MD a few days ago and im trying to figure out the midi 
out settings. when i first hooked the MD to my Nord Mod and pressed 
play it played the nord on every channel(midi freakfest), but i just 
wanted to send midi out from the midi machines. i figured it was 
something in the global midi setup, probobly to do with the midi 
map, so i tryed to change the midi map to off, but they change back 
to defualt when u go to the next pattern..... i couldnt figure it 
out, so i changed the global setup and tryed all of them 1-8 and 
what do u know? the 8th one worked, so now i can trigger my nord 
from the MD and it works great.
my question is- how do i change the global setup so that i can use 
the MD in this way? i also want to use my mpd16 pad to play the pads 
so i want both worlds. should i just be happy i figured it out 
without making any changes?
by the way- great piece of kit, best since the nord modular. i luv 
this machine.

On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 05:33:02AM -0000, xxxxxxx232001 wrote:
>    my question is- how do i change the global setup so that i can use
>    the MD in this way?

the issue is that the MIDI channel you're using for the Nord conflicts
with the channels being used by the MD. just set the MD channels to
something different than what the Nord is using and you'll be fine
(or vice versa).

note mapping, I believe, is only sent on the MD base channel; so it's likely
this channel that is the same as what the Nord is using.

>    i also want to use my mpd16 pad to play the pads
>    so i want both worlds. should i just be happy i figured it out
>    without making any changes?

no, you can have the mpd16 send to the IN port on the MD's base channel
and just have it set up to map the pads to the same note mapping that the
MD is using.

Hope that helps!
Joe

"just set the MD channels to
 something different than what the Nord is using and you'll be fine
(or vice versa)."

so u can set each bank(even a bank with a non-midi machine) to 
trigger an external sound module somehow? for example, i could have a 
trx machine play a drum sound and also trigger my nord? the only midi 
settings i could find in the manual were in the global settings and 
the midi machine. wow, id be really happy if i figued this one out. 
thanks joe

On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 12:36:23AM -0000, xxxxxxx232001 wrote:
>    "just set the MD channels to
>    something different than what the Nord is using and you'll be fine
>    (or vice versa)."
>    so u can set each bank(even a bank with a non-midi machine) to
>    trigger an external sound module somehow?

umm....sort of. (and I think you mean "track" here, not "bank" right?)

so, there's two things that you can do in terms of MD MIDI mapping:
1) each track generates a MIDI note on the base channel (you want to
map your mpd-16 to these notes, by the way); so you can use
the buttons for the tracks as a keyboard to play your Nord if you like;
that is, given that the MD's base channel is set to the Nord's channel
(which you wouldn't normally want when you're playing back sequences; this
is what was giving you problems before)

2) each pattern can be triggered to start when the MD receives a specific
note on its base channel; so maybe note #C3 means pattern A1 should
start; when the MD receives note #C3 on the IN port, it will start
playing pattern A1

check in the global menu under the mapping section. there'll be one for
"track" (i.e. #1 above) and then one for each pattern bank (#2).

>    for example, i could have a
>    trx machine play a drum sound and also trigger my nord?

yes, but only one note on the Nord. for example, if in the global menu
you map track 1 to note #A2 and then put the TRX machine on track 1
(and the MD's base channel matches the Nord's channel), whenever you
trig the TRX machine on track 1 (either by pressing the button or by
the sequencer running), it will send note #A2 to the Nord.

>    the only midi
>    settings i could find in the manual were in the global settings and
>    the midi machine. wow, id be really happy if i figued this one out.
>    thanks joe

no problem :-)

hope that helps!  I feel like I could explain it better somehow, 
so feel free to email me if you're still unsure.

Joe

hmm...yeh, i dont want to change tracks with my nord, guess i just 
want to use the md midi machine 1 to trigger the synth in bank one 
of my nord mod and the md midi machine 2 to trigger the synth in 
bank two of my nord mod. all the rest of the md machines i want to 
do nothing but trigger internal sounds ie-trx, gnd ect.(unless there 
is a way that i can have a track trigger both the internal machines 
and trigger my nord, or just play the internal sounds). 
i wish there was a way that u could set the midi channel for each 
track, or set them off. if i understand correctly the midi machines 
correspond to the midi channel by the name, ie midi machine 1= midi 
channel 1, midi machine 2= midi channel 2 all the way to 4, becuase 
the base channel is only 1-4, right?
there actually may be a way
 
> check in the global menu under the mapping section. there'll be 
one for
> "track" (i.e. #1 above) and then one for each pattern bank (#2).
> 
> >    for example, i could have a
> >    trx machine play a drum sound and also trigger my nord?
> 
> yes, but only one note on the Nord. for example, if in the global 
menu
> you map track 1 to note #A2 and then put the TRX machine on track 1
> (and the MD's base channel matches the Nord's channel), whenever 
you
> trig the TRX machine on track 1 (either by pressing the button or 
by
> the sequencer running), it will send note #A2 to the Nord

On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 06:49:12AM -0000, xxxxxxx232001 wrote:
>    hmm...yeh, i dont want to change tracks with my nord, guess i just
>    want to use the md midi machine 1 to trigger the synth in bank one
>    of my nord mod and the md midi machine 2 to trigger the synth in
>    bank two of my nord mod.

you mean you want to use the MD's MIDI machine to create sequences for
those two banks, right? you need the MIDI machines for that.

>    all the rest of the md machines i want to
>    do nothing but trigger internal sounds ie-trx, gnd ect.(unless there
>    is a way that i can have a track trigger both the internal machines
>    and trigger my nord, or just play the internal sounds).

there is!  I guess I didn't explain it well enough :-) sorry about that.

the internal tracks are mapped to MIDI note #'s. these can be set in
the global menu. their mapping to MIDI note #'s allows you to play
the drum parts from an external keyboard or sequencer (or your mpd-16).
it also allows you to play other gear from the MD by pressing the track
buttons. when you do this, it generates the MIDI note # for that track
on the MD's out port. if there is a device listening to the same channel
that these notes are being sent on (which is the base channel), then it
will respond.

so you see that if you're Nord is listening to the MD's base channel, then
it will respond to you pressing the track buttons by playing the notes
those tracks are mapped to. AND it will play the notes of tracks
as those tracks are being trigged internally. so if you map your bass drum
to C3 and play it on beats 1 and 4, it will make the Nord play C3 on notes
1 and 4.

>    i wish there was a way that u could set the midi channel for each
>    track, or set them off.

I only wish for the latter case, since I pretty much do everything
internally with the MD.

>    if i understand correctly the midi machines
>    correspond to the midi channel by the name, ie midi machine 1= midi
>    channel 1, midi machine 2= midi channel 2 all the way to 4,

the MIDI tracks do correspond to the channel of their name, so you're
right there. but there are 16 of those machines, one for each MIDI channel.

> 	becuase
>    the base channel is only 1-4, right?

the channel *span* is four channels. so the MD requires four channels to
operate. the base channel is just the first channel in that span. you can
change what channels are being utilized. so if you're using 1-4 then
1 is the base channel. if you're using 13-16 then 13 is the base channel.
the base channel is what all the track trigs are sent/received on. it's
also utilized for parameters of tracks 1-4, tracks 5-8 are on the second
channel, etc.

Let me know if you need more help,
Joe