EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

The logic is explained here: (with some javascript proggiers to play 
with) :

http://www.lucytune.com/midi_and_keyboard/tempo.html


You will find the values for various notes at:

http://www.lucytune.com/midi_and_keyboard/LTCentsTempoMsecs.html

in pdf here:

http://www.lucytune.com/downloads/LTCents&Tempos.pdf


Well ..... someone did ask;-)


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Hi there,

I have access codes for:

- Logic Platinum 5 (Mac)
- EXS24 mkII (Mac)
- Logic Platinum 5 (Win)

The first two are authorized on my Mac, but what will happen when I 
install Logic on a PC - will I actually need the Windows access code, or 
will Logic and the EXS24 work on the PC with the current authorizations 
in the XS-Key?

(I can't just try it out cos I don't have a PC with a working USB port...)


Thanks in advance,   Bill Canty

It is the key that is authorized.  Anything that you authorize on your
key will carry over to any machine that you plug it in to.

You will have to enter the win code to authorize it.  You can probably
do it on either machine.

best, Nathan
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Nathan Rosenberg
Music Production                    www.doghouseNYC.com 
The Doghouse NYC                    www.pianoVOX.com

The Doghouse NYC wrote:
> It is the key that is authorized.  Anything that you authorize on your
> key will carry over to any machine that you plug it in to.
> 
> You will have to enter the win code to authorize it.  You can probably
> do it on either machine.

Thanks for the prompt response, Nathan! :-)

I take it, from your answer, that 2 separate Logic Platinum 5 
authorizations ARE required - one for Mac and one for Windows, yeah?

(BTW, the Windows one can't be done on the Mac - in the XSKey 
Authorization window there's only one entry for Logic Platinum. Guess 
I'll have to get that USB port on the PC working!)

But what about the EXS24 - will I need a separate Access Code in order 
to use it on the PC? (It is already authorized for the Mac.)


Thanks,   Bill Canty

I take it, from your answer, that 2 separate Logic Platinum 5 
authorizations ARE required - one for Mac and one for Windows, yeah?

>(BTW, the Windows one can't be done on the Mac - in the XSKey 
>Authorization window there's only one entry for Logic Platinum. Guess 
>I'll have to get that USB port on the PC working!)

>But what about the EXS24 - will I need a separate Access Code in order 
>to use it on the PC? (It is already authorized for the Mac.)
____________

I think you can probably just type the code in where it says 'enter code
here' or whatever and it will still authorize.  It is worth a try.

I believe that the exs is cross platform in that as long as logic is
authorized it will run.

best, Nathan
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Nathan Rosenberg
Music Production                    www.doghouseNYC.com 
The Doghouse NYC                    www.pianoVOX.com

The Doghouse NYC wrote:
> 
>>But what about the EXS24 - will I need a separate Access Code in order 
>>to use it on the PC? (It is already authorized for the Mac.)
> 
> I think you can probably just type the code in where it says 'enter code
> here' or whatever and it will still authorize.  It is worth a try.
> 
> I believe that the exs is cross platform in that as long as logic is
> authorized it will run.


Thanks again, Nathan. I hope you're right!

Anyone else care to confirm or deny?

Bill Canty wrote: 

>
> > I believe that the exs is cross platform in that as long as logic is
> > authorized it will run.
>
> Thanks again, Nathan. I hope you're right!
>
> Anyone else care to confirm or deny?


Logic Win people were offered the Mac authorization codes for free at the time
of the Apple buyout. If you asked for them nicely you were sent the codes and
typing them in authorised your XSKey for Logic Mac and the Mac versions of all
your plugins EXS24 etc.

What Apple/Emagic's current policy with regard to giving PC authorisation to
Mac licence holders I don't know -- you will have to ask them. 

They might just send it to you upon request, they might charge your for the
licence to the other platform (as they used to do before the buyout) or they
might simply say that Logic PC is kaput and decline to issue new licences to
it. 

Regards,
Murray

Night-owl (or insomniac?) Murray McDowall wrote, at about 1.41 a.m. 
Aussie Eastern Standard Time:
> 
>>>I believe that the exs is cross platform in that as long as logic is
>>>authorized it will run.
>>
>>Thanks again, Nathan. I hope you're right!
>>
>>Anyone else care to confirm or deny?
>  
> 
> What Apple/Emagic's current policy with regard to giving PC authorisation to
> Mac licence holders I don't know -- you will have to ask them. 
> 
> They might just send it to you upon request, they might charge your for the
> licence to the other platform (as they used to do before the buyout) or they
> might simply say that Logic PC is kaput and decline to issue new licences to
> it. 


Thanks Murray - a typically thorough (but potentially scary) answer!

I'd better ring the Electric Factory tomorrow, eh? Hope it's not too late...


Cheers,   Bill Canty

At 02:10 AM 10/14/03 +1000, Bill Canty wrote: 
>
> Night-owl (or insomniac?) Murray McDowall wrote, at about 1.41 a.m. 
> Aussie Eastern Standard Time:


Definitely the former.
;-)

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Bill Canty <bill@b...> wrote:

> > I believe that the exs is cross platform in that as long as logic 
is
> > authorized it will run.
> 
> 
> Thanks again, Nathan. I hope you're right!
> 
> Anyone else care to confirm or deny?

That is correct... I'm a windows user that just bought a G5. My XSkey 
now has codes for both. I picked up the EXS24 and EVOC20 over the 
weekend, and just received my A codes in email. Everything runs on 
both platforms.

Terry

Grayter1 wrote:
> 
>>>I believe that the exs is cross platform in that as long as logic is authorized it will run.
>>
>>Thanks again, Nathan. I hope you're right!
>>Anyone else care to confirm or deny?
> 
> That is correct...

Thanks Terry! :-)

> I'm a windows user that just bought a G5.

Ahhh, so Apple's strategy IS working! ;-)

> My XSkey 
> now has codes for both. I picked up the EXS24 and EVOC20 over the 
> weekend, and just received my A codes in email. Everything runs on 
> both platforms.

Just so I'm absolutely clear: did you get ONE access code for the EXS24 
which now enables you to use it on both platforms?


Cheers,   Bill Canty

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Bill Canty <bill@b...> wrote:
> > I'm a windows user that just bought a G5.
> 
> Ahhh, so Apple's strategy IS working! ;-)

Yeah.. I saved my pennies, and it's monster of a computer. Definately worth the 
money and the wait.

> Just so I'm absolutely clear: did you get ONE access code for the EXS24 
> which now enables you to use it on both platforms?

Yes. You get a 'B' authorization code in the box. It gives you a cross platform 84 day 
(or so) temp code. Today I received my permanent 'A' code. It replaces the temp code 
that came in the box. One code fits all...

Hope this helps...

Terry

Grayter1 wrote:
>>>I'm a windows user that just bought a G5.
>>
>>Ahhh, so Apple's strategy IS working! ;-)
> 
> Yeah.. I saved my pennies, and it's monster of a computer. Definately worth the 
> money and the wait.

I'm about to step the other way. Keeping the Mac, of course - it'll 
still be my main box. But the price of a mere Mac OS upgrade will get me 
1/4 of a very capable PC. I'm really warming to the idea of having both 
a Mac and a PC, connected with gigabit ethernet of course.

>>Just so I'm absolutely clear: did you get ONE access code for the EXS24 
>>which now enables you to use it on both platforms?
> 
> Yes. You get a 'B' authorization code in the box. It gives you a cross platform 84 day 
> (or so) temp code. Today I received my permanent 'A' code. It replaces the temp code 
> that came in the box. One code fits all...
> 
> Hope this helps...

Yes, it does, thankyou. :-)

Just need a PC with a working USB port now so I can try it out.


Cheers,  Bill Canty

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Bill Canty <bill@b...> wrote:

I'm really warming to the idea of having both 
> a Mac and a PC, connected with gigabit ethernet of course.
> 

I'm doing the same thing. My G5 will be used for music and video 
projects, and my PC for day to day things (games, internet, etc.).

Terry

I have a DP OS9/OSX box with 2GB of RAM.  I am using the Vienna
Symphonic Library on this machine along with Logic.  Any thoughts on how
much ram to give Logic?  Does the EXS take its RAM from the system or
from logic?

best, Nathan
___
Nathan Rosenberg
Music Production                    www.doghouseNYC.com 
The Doghouse NYC                    www.pianoVOX.com

On a fine day, 14-10-2003, The Doghouse NYC wrote:

>Does the EXS take its RAM from the system or from logic?

 From the system.

-- 
Hendrik Jan Veenstra   h @ k n o w a r e . n l
Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/

> >Does the EXS take its RAM from the system or from logic?
> 
>  From the system.

Hi Hendrik Jan-

So I suppose less ram to logic would be the prescription?  What would
you guess a good number to be, assuming I have 2GB installed?  Also, I
seem to recall that in OS9 I can't make use of any more than 1.5. Can
you confirm that?

best, Nathan
___
Nathan Rosenberg
Music Production                    www.doghouseNYC.com 
The Doghouse NYC                    www.pianoVOX.com

On a fine day, 14-10-2003, The Doghouse NYC wrote:

>  > >Does the EXS take its RAM from the system or from logic?
>>
>>   From the system.
>
>Hi Hendrik Jan-
>
>So I suppose less ram to logic would be the prescription?

Yes.

>What would you guess a good number to be, assuming I have 2GB installed?

Well, "whatever works" is the best answer I guess :).  How about some 
200-300 MB for starters?  I use 130 MB for Logic on a 500 MB system, 
and that works like a charm.  Just beware of the occasional plug-in 
that _does_ use Logic memory instead of system mem.  The LM4 is the 
only one I can think of right now (won't load all drum-samples if 
Logic has too little memory) but there are probably others.  But 
that's simply a matter of increasing mem-allocation if you suspect a 
lack of ram to be the problem.

>Also, I seem to recall that in OS9 I can't make use of any more than 1.5. Can
>you confirm that?

Yes, I recall the same, so I guess you're right.  Easy to check: in 
the Finder open the "About this computer" dialog from the Apple menu. 
If the system is reported to consume some 600 MB instead of the usual 
100 MB, then you'll know where the extra 500 MB comes from :).

-- 
Hendrik Jan Veenstra   h @ k n o w a r e . n l
Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/

Hello!

> I'm really warming to the idea of having both
> > a Mac and a PC, connected with gigabit ethernet of course.
> >
>
> I'm doing the same thing. My G5 will be used for music and video
> projects, and my PC for day to day things (games, internet, etc.).

Same here - I alwyas used to have 2 PCs - one for everything and one for
audio. I ordered a G5 - and that will be audio / video only exchanging one
of the PCs.

-thedi.


--
            electro-industrial and stuff:
               # http://www.kiew.org #

If you're using just the vienna symphonic library, you should give logic
only little ram, because EXS takes his own memory directly from the
system!

Greeting
Rainer

-----------------------------
Rainer Maier
EXS-Mapping-Team
Vienna Symphonic Library GmbH
Draschestrasse 89
A-1230 Vienna

Email: r.maier@...
http://www.vsl.co.at

At 10:53 PM 10/14/2003, you wrote:
> >What would you guess a good number to be, assuming I have 2GB installed?
>
>Well, "whatever works" is the best answer I guess :).  How about some
>200-300 MB for starters?  I use 130 MB for Logic on a 500 MB system,
>and that works like a charm.  Just beware of the occasional plug-in
>that _does_ use Logic memory instead of system mem.  The LM4 is the
>only one I can think of right now


Battery is the same way. I have a battery kit in my autoload, and it gets 
me every time I install a Logic update and forget to increase the Logic memory.

> If you're using just the vienna symphonic library, you should give
logic
> only little ram, because EXS takes his own memory directly from the
> system!
> 
> Greeting
> Rainer

Hi Rainer-
Should I just leave it at the default?  I have 2GB installed (although
OS9 only makes use of 1.5).  Where would _you_ set it?

best, Nathan
___
Nathan Rosenberg
Music Production                    www.doghouseNYC.com 
The Doghouse NYC                    www.pianoVOX.com

Nathan The Doghouse NYC wrote:

>  >Does the EXS take its RAM from the system or from logic?

From: Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...>

>  From the system.

(That's under OS 9, of course.) And this is an issue if you're trying 
to run parts of, say, the Vienna Symphonic Library and the 
East-West/Quantum Leap Symphony Orchestra (which uses an OEM version 
of Kompakt) on the same machine. Kompakt uses memory that is assigned 
to Logic, and the EXS uses memory that isn't!

 From what I've been lead to believe, the way Panther works with 
memory will be different; hopefully it'll solve this problem.
-- 

Nick Batzdorf
818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434

Hi Nathan!

Well i wouldn't give it more than 150-200mb! That should be enough for
logic to work properly. But maybe you could give it a try and set the
value even lower. But i must admit that we haven't tried it yet.... 

One tip: Have a look at our forum @ http://www.vsl.co.at. You'll find a
lot of very useful hints there. 

Greetings
Rainer Maier

-----------------------------
Rainer Maier
EXS-Mapping-Team
Vienna Symphonic Library GmbH
Draschestrasse 89
A-1230 Vienna

Email: r.maier@...
http://www.vsl.co.at

> Well i wouldn't give it more than 150-200mb! That should be enough for
> logic to work properly. But maybe you could give it a try and set the
> value even lower. But i must admit that we haven't tried it yet....
> 
> One tip: Have a look at our forum @ http://www.vsl.co.at. You'll find
a
> lot of very useful hints there.

Thanks Rainer- Indeed the VSL forum is great.  
In my short amount of experimentation, I did notice that I had to assign
more memory to logic (than the default) otherwise the Project Manager
couldn't load all the data.  

The system got a little flakey during the whole resolve process. In one
case, I couldn't open any plugins in a song that didn't even have any
VSL instruments. I still suspect it was due to PM trying to catalogue
all those samples (I wonder how big my PM data file must be).  The
default maximum was something like 140Mb.  I upped that to 200 and
things have been pretty smooth.

best, Nathan
___
Nathan Rosenberg
Music Production                    www.doghouseNYC.com 
The Doghouse NYC                    www.pianoVOX.com