EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Are you able to split a file up into different sections/ keyzones or place different 
regions of a sample onto different keys on the keyboard in the EXS sampler? For 
example load a beat into the EXS and then have the kick drum on one keyzone or 
region, have the HH on the second region, the snares on the thrid region, etc.

     I use Logic 6 Platinum on a MAC G5 1.8 Dual G5 and I'm using the EXS 24 MKII 
sampler. Any info is appreciated!


J

At 03:00 PM 01/23/2004, you wrote:
>      Are you able to split a file up into different sections/ keyzones or 
> place different
>regions of a sample onto different keys on the keyboard in the EXS 
>sampler? For
>example load a beat into the EXS and then have the kick drum on one 
>keyzone or
>region, have the HH on the second region, the snares on the thrid region, etc.

This would require extensive editing in the EXS. With Phatmatic Pro, 
however, it's a breeze!

On Jan 23, 2004, at 5:06 PM, Sean McCoy wrote:

> At 03:00 PM 01/23/2004, you wrote:
>>      Are you able to split a file up into different sections/ 
>> keyzones or
>> place different
>> regions of a sample onto different keys on the keyboard in the EXS
>> sampler? For
>> example load a beat into the EXS and then have the kick drum on one
>> keyzone or
>> region, have the HH on the second region, the snares on the thrid 
>> region, etc.
>
> This would require extensive editing in the EXS. With Phatmatic Pro,
> however, it's a breeze!

Or use Recycle and slice it.
Then you get to use that neato EXS option to Import Recycle.
Mapped and ready to go with midi sequence.

Chris
---
www.descentrecords.com
www.towelhead.net

i'm assuming phatmatic pro is a program, but is it emagic?


j

At 03:37 AM 1/24/04 +0000, you wrote: 
>
> i'm assuming phatmatic pro is a program, but is it emagic?


No it is a bitshift audio VSTi  for beat slicing.

On a fine day, 23-01-2004, Jean Luc De Lorme wrote:

>Are you able to split a file up into different sections/ keyzones or 
>place different regions of a sample onto different keys on the 
>keyboard in the EXS sampler?

Funny how everyone advices to use some other software, and no-one 
really answers the question :).  The answer is: yes, it can be done. 
What you can infer from the other posts though is that it's not too 
easy.  When you load an audio file in the EXS, you can set the 
sample's start and end point (in samples).  Obviously this allows you 
to set e.g. start=0 / end=44100, and start=44100 / end=88200 for two 
different zones that use the same sample.  It's equally obvious that 
this becomes quite cumbersome if you want to use 20 sections in 30 
different audio files (requiring to set start/end on 600 sections by 
hand).

For just a few zones it's not all that bad thgough: you can import 
the sample in the EXS, click the 'edit start/end' button which will 
open the sample in Logic's Sample Editor, and there you can 
graphically drag start and end markers around.  When you're done, 
close the Sample Editor, and the EXS will use the start/end values 
you've just set.

-- 
Hendrik Jan Veenstra   h @ k n o w a r e . n l
Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/

Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@k...> wrote:

> 
> Funny how everyone advices to use some other software, and no-one 
> really answers the question :).  The answer is: yes, it can be done. 
> What you can infer from the other posts though is that it's not too 
> easy.  When you load an audio file in the EXS, you can set the 
> sample's start and end point (in samples).  Obviously this allows you 
> to set e.g. start=0 / end=44100, and start=44100 / end=88200 for two 
> different zones that use the same sample.  It's equally obvious that 
> this becomes quite cumbersome if you want to use 20 sections in 30 
> different audio files (requiring to set start/end on 600 sections by 
> hand).
> 
> For just a few zones it's not all that bad thgough: you can import 
> the sample in the EXS, click the 'edit start/end' button which will 
> open the sample in Logic's Sample Editor, and there you can 
> graphically drag start and end markers around.  When you're done, 
> close the Sample Editor, and the EXS will use the start/end values 
> you've just set.
> 
> -- 
> Hendrik Jan Veenstra   h @ k n o w a r e . n l
> Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/

Thank you very much for your info! I was about to start looking at Native 
Instrument's Kontact for sampler instead of the EXS. It seems that compared to the features of Kontact, EXS doesn't really offer much except that it is 
E Magic and so is Logic. Thanks again!


J

"Jean Luc De Lorme" <atomicdream@...> wrote: 

>
> Thank you very much for your info! I was about to start looking at Native 
> Instrument's Kontact for sampler instead of the EXS. It seems that compared
> to the features of Kontact, EXS doesn't really offer much except that it is 
> E Magic and so is Logic. Thanks again!


I have both and hardly use Kontakt - which of these two you would prefer
depends on what you want to use a sampler for. 

Kontakt has some sound mangling features -- which EXS24 lacks -- and a lot of
pretty lame FX  (chorus, compressor etc). I would rather use other (decent)  FX
for these purposes. 

If you want to build mutli-sample instruments, Kontakt's instrument editor is a
nightmare. EXS24 has decent filters and is incredibly stable and efficient for
bread and butter sampling tasks. As of Logic Pro it will be built into Logic
(no longer an add-on)  so you can share instruments/collaborate with an even
larger body of Logic users.  Then there is this group which is itself a good
resource -- compare it to the Kontakt forum at NI and you will see what I mean.


Regards,
Murray

On a fine day, 24-01-2004, Jean Luc De Lorme wrote:

>Thank you very much for your info! I was about to start looking at Native
>Instrument's Kontact for sampler instead of the EXS. It seems that 
>compared to the features of Kontact, EXS doesn't really offer much 
>except that it is
>E Magic and so is Logic. Thanks again!

Now waidaminute...  Yes, the EXS is not the hyper-blitz 
sound-mangling tool from your wildest dreams maybe, but: it's 
integrated in Logic, extremely stable, *very* CPU-efficient, sample 
accurate, and sounds very good.  So if you want a stable, efficient 
sampler that will do any day-to-day tasks, you really can't go wrong 
with the EXS.  Even better: if you get the $199 upgrade to Logic Pro 
(if you now have Gold or Platinum), you'll get the EXS and all other 
Emagic plug-ins & instruments for that money.  Hard to beat that kind 
of offer :-).

-- 
Hendrik Jan Veenstra   h @ k n o w a r e . n l
Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/