EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Hello eartoyz,

You must mean Garritan Strings, right? I have the AKAI version. They're 
really beautiful, useful samples. The only problem is that the smaller AKAI 
version doesn't have p (soft) or f (loud) programs, only mp (medium soft) 
and mf (medium loud), so you don't have the range you need to do subtle 
work (good enough for pop, not for film soundtracks). As well, you don't 
get as many samples in a given program (every 3 keys instead of every key - 
that can be trouble when you play a chord with detache samples), and not as 
many articulations (no co legno, for eg). What you do get is a very 
professional-sounding, everyday-use string orchestra library. You can 
always move up to the full version later (when EXS reads GIGA, for eg). I 
give it two thumbs up.

As for runs, lines and melodies, I can think of Orchestral Colours and 
Scoring Tools. amongst others. But you should try them out before buying 
them, if possible.

Ned


http://www.nedfx.com

       Ned Bouhalassa

n e d @ n e d f x . c o m

Hello eartoyz,

I just bought (3 days ago) GigaStudio and the Garritan Strings. I decided to
go for the full meal deal after talking to Gary Garritan. The Giga Library
so huge that will take a long time to learn. Maestro Tools is only available
with the Giga version and without Maestro Tools a true string legato is not
possible. This factor alone is what convinced me and I can tell you in a
while what I think since I am still in the process of setting up and
learning and getting around in Windows 2000. I think it is very wise to go
with the big version if you are very much into string music and want to get
the best possible results in any type of music at almost any tempo. If you
have a more limited need for more static accompaniments that mostly feature
the strings as 'pads' then I would say that the Akai version would likely do
you just fine.

I am an ex-cello player so I have to say that I have never seen choices in
string samples like the choices I have with the Garritan set. It makes the
most attempt to get at what string playing could be all about. The Kirk
Hunter sounds good in certain situations but is quite limited compared to
the Garritan library.

Regards

Paul

> From: Ned Bouhalassa <ned@...>
> Organization: nedfx.com
> Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 20:59:35 -0400
> To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [exs] Garrison Strings GIGA vs Akai
> 
> Hello eartoyz,
> 
> You must mean Garritan Strings, right? I have the AKAI version. They're
> really beautiful, useful samples. The only problem is that the smaller AKAI
> version doesn't have p (soft) or f (loud) programs, only mp (medium soft)
> and mf (medium loud), so you don't have the range you need to do subtle
> work (good enough for pop, not for film soundtracks). As well, you don't
> get as many samples in a given program (every 3 keys instead of every key -
> that can be trouble when you play a chord with detache samples), and not as
> many articulations (no co legno, for eg). What you do get is a very
> professional-sounding, everyday-use string orchestra library. You can
> always move up to the full version later (when EXS reads GIGA, for eg). I
> give it two thumbs up.
> 
> As for runs, lines and melodies, I can think of Orchestral Colours and
> Scoring Tools. amongst others. But you should try them out before buying
> them, if possible.
> 
> Ned
> 
> 
> http://www.nedfx.com
> 
> Ned Bouhalassa
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> n e d @ n e d f x . c o m
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The Garritan site has an environment that is claimed to do what 
Maestro tools does, perhaps even more.

Since environments are cross platform, I wonder if the environment 
could be used with an EXS version of the string library on the Mac.

Comments?

Bob

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Founder, Cooper appreciation society.

"Who's naughty on this plane??

I AM!!!"

Here's the info from Gary Garritan's website:

VIRTUAL MAESTRO TOOLS for the EMAGIC LOGIC ENVIRONMENT by Roman Beilharz

In the Update package is a MaestroTools equivalent for the Logic Audio 
Environment and requires Emagic Logic Audio to operate. Maestro-Tools 
extends the capabilities of GigaStudio by intercepting and then 
manipulating MIDI data to produce, for example, alternating bow strokes and 
the ability to play in monophonic mode. Emagic's Logic Audio comes with a 
programmable MIDI architecture, enabling the user to create special MIDI 
features. Within Logic Audio, a user can accomplish most of the things 
MaestroTools does, but without the need for a stand-alone program. Many 
thanks to Roman Beilharz for producing the innovative programming. This 
program is available in MAC and PC formats. More information is included in 
the update package.

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Bob,

 From what I can gather, it seems to me that this is for people who control 
Gigastudio from Logic, not users of the AKAI version of GOS (Garritan 
Orchestral Strings). For one thing, there's no mention of EXS. Also, note 
that the 'update package', where one can find this environment, is for GIGA 
users.

I know that quite a few composers run Gigastudio from a PC and connect it 
to their MIDI interface. It basically becomes another sampler connected to 
your main computer (Mac or PC). It'll be interesting to see if the new 
version of EXS makes it easier to integrate more of the GIGA format's 
potential for expression...

Ned

splugapass wrote:

> The Garritan site has an environment that is claimed to do what
> Maestro tools does, perhaps even more.
> 
> Since environments are cross platform, I wonder if the environment
> could be used with an EXS version of the string library on the Mac.




http://www.nedfx.com

       Ned Bouhalassa

n e d @ n e d f x . c o m

on 7/29/02 3:54 PM, Ned Bouhalassa at ned@... wrote:

Here's the info from Gary Garritan's website:

VIRTUAL MAESTRO TOOLS for the EMAGIC LOGIC ENVIRONMENT by Roman Beilharz

In the Update package is a MaestroTools equivalent for the Logic Audio
Environment and requires Emagic Logic Audio to operate. Maestro-Tools
extends the capabilities of GigaStudio by intercepting and then
manipulating MIDI data to produce, for example, alternating bow strokes and
the ability to play in monophonic mode. Emagic's Logic Audio comes with a
programmable MIDI architecture, enabling the user to create special MIDI
features. Within Logic Audio, a user can accomplish most of the things
MaestroTools does, but without the need for a stand-alone program. Many
thanks to Roman Beilharz for producing the innovative programming. This
program is available in MAC and PC formats. More information is included in
the update package.

----------

Bob,

From what I can gather, it seems to me that this is for people who control
Gigastudio from Logic, not users of the AKAI version of GOS (Garritan
Orchestral Strings). For one thing, there's no mention of EXS. Also, note
that the 'update package', where one can find this environment, is for GIGA
users.

I know that quite a few composers run Gigastudio from a PC and connect it
to their MIDI interface. It basically becomes another sampler connected to
your main computer (Mac or PC). It'll be interesting to see if the new
version of EXS makes it easier to integrate more of the GIGA format's
potential for expression...

Ned

Hi guys,
I'm using the Maestro Tools emulator with logic now...I'm using a Halion
translation of Giga Garritan strings with Halion as a VST plugin in Logic.
Whether it's useful with EXS...from where I'm sitting...I haven't thought
this through carefully...but It looks like it might be irrelevant which
version of the library you would use at least for the alt patches...There
are alt patches with the Akai version?  Other features of the environment
employ key switching...so...you won't be able to use that stuff...

This environment alters the incoming midi of your keyboard before recording
the data to Logic that is sending data to your sampler.  If your sampler is
able to interpret the info...you're in business

I have a little PDF somewhere...I'll try to dig it up.

Julie  





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      Ned Bouhalassa

n e d @ n e d f x . c o m




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I just heard back from Gary Garritan today and he says they are working on 
an advanced exs24 Native version of Garritan strings. I plan on purchasing 
the native  version when its out. In my opinion the Akai version is too 
limited and the Giga version according to Gary probably will not translate 
very well to the exs24 at this time with something like CDXtrac. On the 
other hand the Akai version has the upgrade path to get us buy until the 
Native version is available. Any way I just though I would post that a 
native EXS24 version is in the works!

Paul Martinson
>From: "splugapass" <bobandmaria@...

>Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
>To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [exs] Garrison Strings GIGA vs Akai
>Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:28:47 -0000
>
>The Garritan site has an environment that is claimed to do what
>Maestro tools does, perhaps even more.
>
>Since environments are cross platform, I wonder if the environment
>could be used with an EXS version of the string library on the Mac.
>
>Comments?
>
>Bob
>
>--
>
>Founder, Cooper appreciation society.
>
>"Who's naughty on this plane??
>
>I AM!!!"
>




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Paul Martinson wrote:

> I just heard back from Gary Garritan today and he says they are working on
> an advanced exs24 Native version of Garritan strings. I plan on purchasing
> the native  version when its out. In my opinion the Akai version is too
> limited and the Giga version according to Gary probably will not translate
> very well to the exs24 at this time with something like CDXtrac. On the
> other hand the Akai version has the upgrade path to get us buy until the
> Native version is available. Any way I just though I would post that a
> native EXS24 version is in the works!
> 
> Paul Martinson

Sounds really cool! Thanks all that wrote,

Bob