EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

FWIW, I like the -6db setting on average, but I'll adjust it later 
depending on the instrument. One thing to consider is how many instruments 
you're planning to mix together. When I do a 'beat' piece 
(techno/rock/pop/jazz, etc), I might bring up the individual EXS 
instruments, but when I do a tv/film orchestral cue, I find that I have to 
lower them because of the number of parts and how these add up in the 
master output. That's why I find that -6 is a good middle ground. Of 
course, some samples are given to us at a 'low' level: I'm thinking of 
Miroslav Vitous' collection (can you say, overpriced?!!!), some of the 
loops in Peter Erskine's Living Drums, etc.

In the end, I wouldn't worry about it much, as you can always change the 
individual vol settings after the fact in the EXS window.



Ned



http://www.nedfx.com

       Ned Bouhalassa

n e d @ n e d f x . c o m

I recommend using 0bd for any Drum libraries. Backbeat sounds WAY punchier 
and slamming at 0 compared to -6. The EXS engine fattens up with hotter 
signals and there's no reason to be conservative, since it is very difficult 
to internally distort the EXS.

You can always turn the level down on the channel, but turning up the channel 
level doesn't make it fatter (but 0db DOES make it fatter and puchier).

best,

-EP
In a message dated 9/15/02 12:01:41 AM, technodork_2000@... writes:

>In converting Akai discs to EXS24, or any other discs for that 
>matter, is it good as a general rule to use the -6db attenuation in 
>the EXS24 conversion window, or in CDXtract or other programs.
>
>I converted the AKAI version of Spectrasonics BackBeat 
>CD-Rom to EXS24 without the attenuation, and it appeared to 
>be entirely to loud to be useable well over 6 db of clipping on the 
>meters with the fader set to 0. I notice that there are a couple of 
>different settings, - 3db  drums, - 6db Average, and none, for 
>now, the -6db average seems to do fine,
>
> Just curious if there are any general rules to consdier when 
>making these settings.

On 9/16/02 7:36 PM, "PersingEP@..." <PersingEP@...> wrote:

> I recommend using 0bd for any Drum libraries. Backbeat sounds WAY punchier
> and slamming at 0 compared to -6. The EXS engine fattens up with hotter
> signals and there's no reason to be conservative, since it is very difficult
> to internally distort the EXS.
> 
> You can always turn the level down on the channel, but turning up the channel
> level doesn't make it fatter (but 0db DOES make it fatter and puchier).
> 
> best,
> 
> -EP
> In a message dated 9/15/02 12:01:41 AM, technodork_2000@... writes:


No S==t ­ you mean the exs is a closet analog fan ? :)
-----------------
Malcolm Payne Music
NYC
http://www.malcolmpayne.com

In a message dated 9/16/02 4:48:56 PM, alt@... writes:

>
>
>No S==t - you mean the exs is a closet analog fan ? :)
>
>

;-)

Funny huh....this is really true of a lot of digital devices. Headroom can be 
incredibly important to get the best sound.

It's a device to device thing though. For instance, the Kurzweil K-2000/2500 
series really have a dramatic improvement in sound when you crank up the 
headroom. Same with the Roland JV/XV series.

But the Roland S-760/770 samplers and some other devices sound really good no 
matter what the headroom is. As a general digital rule though, almost 
everything sounds fuller when your levels are set to "audible distortion 
minus one". Of course, there are exceptions and you should always leave the 
final decision up to your ears and your own taste.

Best,

EP