EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Well now that you mention it...

I don't know about Trilogy, but I've had Atmosphere beta in my computer for 
10 days and I can tell you it is fantastic. Why? Well because Eric has an 
excellent collection of analog and digital synths, so the sound of the 
patches are varied, rich and high-quality sounding. He also has unique 
programming chops, so the patches come alive, they're soooo fat.

Oh, and there's so many patches, I had to spend a couple of days to get 
through them: it's got dark drones, and light swirly pads, moody strings, 
evolving textures, sweeps, analog sync monsters, etc. And it's not only a 
pad synthesizer (although that is its focus): the leads are superb. And of 
course, you can tweak the sounds to your liking, as there's a multimode 
filter, 2 ADSR enveloppes, moveable start-point, 4 LFOS, etc, etc. As well, 
you can combine any 2 patches to create a very large number of variations 
on the preset patches.

But, Ned, what does is it SOUND like??? 
MoogCS80AbsynthOberheimWavestationJupiterMaelstromDistortedReality in a 
blender.

Check out Spectrasonics' web site for more info.

I think this is a perfect complement to Absynth.

Ned

wass@... wrote:

> 
> Has anyone heard what Spectrasonics is showing at AES? They
> have hinted that there would be some announcements, but
> nothing is up on their web site yet. A bit OT, but since
> Eric P is on the list...
> 
> /wass
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Eric,

Any plans to move to Audio Units soon? I would love to be running
exclusively on OSX, but I have a feeling it'll be a while. Need those RME
drivers too! -Jer

> From: Ned Bouhalassa <ned@...>
> Organization: nedfx.com
> Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 11:01:12 -0400
> To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [exs] OT: Spectrasonics at AES?
> 
> Well now that you mention it...
> 
> I don't know about Trilogy, but I've had Atmosphere beta in my computer for
> 10 days and I can tell you it is fantastic. Why? Well because Eric has an
> excellent collection of analog and digital synths, so the sound of the
> patches are varied, rich and high-quality sounding. He also has unique
> programming chops, so the patches come alive, they're soooo fat.
> 
> Oh, and there's so many patches, I had to spend a couple of days to get
> through them: it's got dark drones, and light swirly pads, moody strings,
> evolving textures, sweeps, analog sync monsters, etc. And it's not only a
> pad synthesizer (although that is its focus): the leads are superb. And of
> course, you can tweak the sounds to your liking, as there's a multimode
> filter, 2 ADSR enveloppes, moveable start-point, 4 LFOS, etc, etc. As well,
> you can combine any 2 patches to create a very large number of variations
> on the preset patches.
> 
> But, Ned, what does is it SOUND like???
> MoogCS80AbsynthOberheimWavestationJupiterMaelstromDistortedReality in a
> blender.
> 
> Check out Spectrasonics' web site for more info.
> 
> I think this is a perfect complement to Absynth.
> 
> Ned
> 
> wass@... wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Has anyone heard what Spectrasonics is showing at AES? They
>> have hinted that there would be some announcements, but
>> nothing is up on their web site yet. A bit OT, but since
>> Eric P is on the list...
>> 
>> /wass
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> To unsubscribe from this group, send a blank email to:
>> exs-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>> For a list of places to get free samples please see:
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service
>> <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>.
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> http://www.nedfx.com
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> Ned Bouhalassa
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> 
> 
> 
> To unsubscribe from this group, send a blank email to:
> exs-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com
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On Mon, 2002-10-07 at 21:00, Jason Greenberg wrote:
> don't understand what is going on.  Do I need to manually map these files???
> I don't have any experience using the editor or mapping.
I have no experience of converting gig files, but if mapping is the only
problem it should be easy to sort out - I could explain how to do it
here but it would take me longer to type an explaination than it would
for you to fish out the mnaul and read the relevent page ; its v. simple
to do.

~Pev

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Hey Pev,

Good answer! Sometimes, it's best to try and do something yourself - 
through trial and error - before coming to the group with a question. 
There's no better way to learn than by getting your hands dirty.

Ned

Pev wrote:

> I could explain how to do it
> here but it would take me longer to type an explaination than it would
> for you to fish out the mnaul and read the relevent page ; its v. simple
> to do.
> 
> ~Pev




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       Ned Bouhalassa

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At 01:00 PM 10/7/02 -0700, you wrote: 
>
> This is my second post, nobody responded to my first post and I'm getting
> desperate.  I don't know what to do so I would really appreciate any help.



Hi Jason,

I would have replied last time but I wasn't sure if you were on a PC or a Mac
-- I thought probably Mac. I have the Malmsjo Grand too and I use it with the
EXS24 and with Gigasampler -- both on PC -- without problems. I only get one
Gig file (1,037,740 KB) though -- there is a GID file (9kB) too. 

OK -- I just checked on the CD and the situation is you have to go through a
procedure -- copying the big files which are _ gi!_ (sic) files and then
renaming them and then running a batch file called Malmsjo Acoustic Grand.bat
to generate the Gig file. Obviously this is all going to be just a leetle bit
tricky on a Mac. 

If you have access to a PC you could do the conversion to a gig file there and
transfer it across a network or span it across a couple of CDs as a zip file. 

Failing that -- I would contact the author (Hans Adamson) and see whether he
has a Mac utility for doing all this for you here's his email address:

"Hans Adamson" <hadamson@...>

Regards,
Murray

At 01:27 PM 10/7/02 -0400, you wrote: 
>
> Hey Pev,
>
> Good answer! Sometimes, it's best to try and do something yourself - 
> through trial and error - before coming to the group with a question. 
> There's no better way to learn than by getting your hands dirty.


Well guys -- it is probably true that you could merge the two parts of the
instrument by copying and pasting zones and groups in the Instrument editor. 
However,  there were never meant to be two parts and I am not sure that the
programming of the instrument would be complete going this route. 

The instrument is designed to be installed from within GigaStudio on a PC which
handles import of instruments which span multiple CDs automatically. The
procedure I referred to (see my other message) is for Halion users and is in a
MS Word file on one of the CDs.

Regards,
Murray

This is my second post, nobody responded to my first post and I'm getting
desperate.  I don't know what to do so I would really appreciate any help.

I have a 2 CD set of a sampled piano "Malmsjo Acoustic Grand".  Each CD has
a big GIG file as well as some small little windows files like txt and ini
files etc..  I need to know how I'm supposed to combine these files into one
gig file so that they can be seen as one instrument instead of two.

I'm pretty sure I set everything up correctly with the EXS because I have
done this many times using sample cell files.  I simply put the two gig
files into a folder and then put an alias of that folder into the sampler
instruments folder, then I open logic and the exs and open the Malmjo Grand
Piano alias in the EXS list.  Then I saw each sample get converted.  When
all this completed, only the first few octaves of the piano sounded.  I
don't understand what is going on.  Do I need to manually map these files???
I don't have any experience using the editor or mapping.

I really would appreciate any help because I really want to try my new Piano
CD and I'm not able to.

Thanks,
Jason

In a message dated 10/7/02 8:14:17 AM, HELP@... writes:

>Eric,
>
>Any plans to move to Audio Units soon? I would love to be running
>exclusively on OSX, but I have a feeling it'll be a while. Need those RME
>drivers too! -Jer

Yes....this was our news for AES. We are supporting ALL OSX platforms with 
the priority going to Audio Units first....it's an excellent standard.

Audio Units for Stylus and Atmosphere will be available for download by next 
month on our site. The work is going very well.

All other new OSX platforms (VST, MAS, RTAS) will also be supported as well, 
and available for download by the end of the year.

All OSX platforms are available to registered users free of charge :-)

I think we will be one of the very first virtual instrument companies to have 
a complete product line converted to Audio Units.

So good news all around!!

Best,

EP

Thanks for the thorough response, Eric!


You said:

Yes....this was our news for AES. We are supporting ALL OSX platforms with
the priority going to Audio Units first....it's an excellent standard.

Audio Units for Stylus and Atmosphere will be available for download by next
month on our site. The work is going very well.

All other new OSX platforms (VST, MAS, RTAS) will also be supported as well,
and available for download by the end of the year.

All OSX platforms are available to registered users free of charge :-)

I think we will be one of the very first virtual instrument companies to
have 
a complete product line converted to Audio Units.

So good news all around!!

Best,

EP

>  We are supporting ALL OSX platforms with
>the priority going to Audio Units first....it's an excellent standard.
>
>Audio Units for Stylus and Atmosphere will be available for download by next
>month on our site.

Great news Eric - thanks!! When will Atmosphere be released?

Also, a new group has been started for Stylus, so for those who are interested:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/stylus/

Regards - Colin

In a message dated 10/8/02 9:18:02 AM, musos@... writes:

>Great news Eric - thanks!! When will Atmosphere be released?

November 15th!

>
>Also, a new group has been started for Stylus, so for those who are 
interested:
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/stylus/

Wow...what a trip! That's going to keep us busy!

Very cool though....I'll check it out.

-EP

Jason wrote


>
> I will try to combine the files on my friends PC this weekend.
> You mention that I have to rename the files, what do I rename them as?


Instructions to Halion users are on the CD in a an MS word file -- that tells
you what to name them as. Your edition of the CD and mine might be different so
this may have changed. If it isn't there send me a private email and I will
send the instructions.


>
> I emailed Hans, and am awaiting his response.
> Are you happy with this piano sample set?


I think the Chopin midi files (Nocturnes, Preludes etc)  Hans Adamson offers a
link to on his site sound good using this piano. It sounds like a piano playing
in a room -- useful for film and TV. I find the lack of the usual dampers on
/dampers off arrangement means this instrument is a little too resonant for a
lot of things. I think if he was doing it again he would do the "four velocity
levels with the pedal, four velocity levels without the pedal" thing. His Cool
Vibes -- that I am very pleased with. 

The EXS gig file import utility might be doing a pretty good job of mapping the
files. You could try opening one of the 2 exs instruments in the editor
selecting all groups and zones (Control A on PC) and copying them and then open
the other half of the piano's  exs file in the editor and paste the copied
zones and groups. Save the combined instrument as a nesw exs instrument. 

The result would probably be pretty close to importing the whole piano gig file
(possibly identical) although you might end up with twice as many groups. I am
not sure how or even if the exs gig import routine reads the articulation info
in a gig file -- it may be there in both the sub parts I don't know. Worth a
try if you want some belated instant gratification. 

Regards,
Murray

Hi Murray,
Thank you very much for your response, I now have an idea of what needs to
be done, and I will try to combine the files on my friends PC this weekend.
You mention that I have to rename the files, what do I rename them as?
I emailed Hans, and am awaiting his response.
Are you happy with this piano sample set?
Thanks again for your help.
Jason

> 
> Hi Jason,
> 
> I would have replied last time but I wasn't sure if you were on a PC or a Mac
> -- I thought probably Mac. I have the Malmsjo Grand too and I use it with the
> EXS24 and with Gigasampler -- both on PC -- without problems. I only get one
> Gig file (1,037,740 KB) though -- there is a GID file (9kB) too.
> 
> OK -- I just checked on the CD and the situation is you have to go through a
> procedure -- copying the big files which are _ gi!_ (sic) files and then
> renaming them and then running a batch file called Malmsjo Acoustic Grand.bat
> to generate the Gig file. Obviously this is all going to be just a leetle bit
> tricky on a Mac. 
> 
> If you have access to a PC you could do the conversion to a gig file there and
> transfer it across a network or span it across a couple of CDs as a zip file.
>