EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

When using EXS24 virtual instruments, I can always hear the instrument 
in record and playback (set up as an audio instrument, using MIDI 
controller to play into the virtual instrument).  However, I can't seem 
to record to audio.  All my MIDI instruments go easily to audio upon 
record; I have them set up through OMS.  What step am I missing to 
record virtual instruments to audio?  For that matter, I can't seem to 
grasp how to mix multiple audio tracks to one stereo track.

Thanks,
Larry

P.S. I have read the FAQs, but maybe I missed something.

Thoughts from the mind of steinway03 <ltarof@...>, 30-12-2002:

>When using EXS24 virtual instruments, I can always hear the instrument
>in record and playback (set up as an audio instrument, using MIDI
>controller to play into the virtual instrument).  However, I can't seem
>to record to audio.  All my MIDI instruments go easily to audio upon
>record; I have them set up through OMS.  What step am I missing to
>record virtual instruments to audio?  For that matter, I can't seem to
>grasp how to mix multiple audio tracks to one stereo track.

Bounce, on the master fader.  Solo the midi track, hit the BNCE 
button, wait a bit, done.

-- 
Hendrik Jan Veenstra  <h@...>
Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@k...> wrote:
> Thoughts from the mind of steinway03 <ltarof@r...>, 30-12-2002:
> 
> >When using EXS24 virtual instruments, I can always hear the instrument
> >in record and playback (set up as an audio instrument, using MIDI
> >controller to play into the virtual instrument).  However, I can't seem
> >to record to audio.  All my MIDI instruments go easily to audio upon
> >record; I have them set up through OMS.  What step am I missing to
> >record virtual instruments to audio?  For that matter, I can't seem to
> >grasp how to mix multiple audio tracks to one stereo track.
> 
> Bounce, on the master fader.  Solo the midi track, hit the BNCE 
> button, wait a bit, done.
> 
> -- 
> Hendrik Jan Veenstra  <h@...>
> Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com
--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "HKC" <henrikkrogh@m...> wrote:
> You need to check out the bounce feature, it´s situated on the bottom of =
the outputs (bnce)in the audiomixer, click it and you´re rolling.
> Henrik Krogh
> henrikkrogh@m...

Thx for the bounce suggestion.  Here's my dilemma.  When AudioInst 1 is 
set to be Cha = "Instrument 1", then "bounce" doesn't appear on the 
master fader.  If, instead, Cha = "Output 1-2", bounce does appear, but 
when I click "bnce" I get a message that there is nothing to bounce.  

This is in contrast to the behavior in MIDI where I set up the track 
mixer, hit "record" for Audio 1 and get an audio recording either as 
SDII or AIFF.

What's my missing step?

Cheers, Larry

Thoughts from the mind of steinway03 <ltarof@...>, 30-12-2002:

>Thx for the bounce suggestion.  Here's my dilemma.  When AudioInst 1 is
>set to be Cha = "Instrument 1", then "bounce" doesn't appear on the
>master fader.

It does.  It's just not the fader called "master" but the one called 
"Output 1-2".

>If, instead, Cha = "Output 1-2",

...then you've changed the kind of object it is, and hence have lost 
the inserted VSTi, and so:

>when I click "bnce" I get a message that there is nothing to bounce.

...which is correct.

>This is in contrast to the behavior in MIDI where I set up the track
>mixer, hit "record" for Audio 1 and get an audio recording either as
>SDII or AIFF.
>
>What's my missing step?

You should look at the object whose Cha is set to "Output 1-2". 
*That* has the BNCE button on it.  Make sure that on Instrument-1 the 
output poup is set to "Output 1-2".  And in the Bounce dialog, enter 
proper start and end times.

This is totally unrelated to turning MIDI tracks for external synths 
into audio btw (which you're talking about in your last paragraph).

-- 
Hendrik Jan Veenstra  <h@...>
Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@k...> wrote:
> Thoughts from the mind of steinway03 <ltarof@r...>, 30-12-2002:
> 
> >Thx for the bounce suggestion.  Here's my dilemma.  When AudioInst 1 is
> >set to be Cha = "Instrument 1", then "bounce" doesn't appear on the
> >master fader.
> 
> It does.  It's just not the fader called "master" but the one called 
> "Output 1-2".
> >
> >What's my missing step?
> 
> You should look at the object whose Cha is set to "Output 1-2". 
> *That* has the BNCE button on it.  Make sure that on Instrument-1 the 
> output poup is set to "Output 1-2".  And in the Bounce dialog, enter 
> proper start and end times.
> 
> -- 
> Hendrik Jan Veenstra  <h@...>
> Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com

That did the trick.  Thanks so much!

I notice that the output is into two files labeled .aif and .air (which 
I assume means aif left and aif right?).  Two follow up questions:

1. Is there a setting whereby the stereo output can be directed into a 
single aif stereo file?
2. When I try to convert the separate l and r files to a stereo file, I 
usually get "no split files selected" despite that I clicked on them.  
I got it to convert once, but don't realize exactly what I did. (a) 
What is the procedure to convert to stereo file?  (b) Whenever I've 
done audio, the suffix .aif appears, but not this time.  Why? And is 
this really an aif file?

Cheers, Larry

Thoughts from the mind of steinway03 <ltarof@...>, 31-12-2002:

>  > You should look at the object whose Cha is set to "Output 1-2".
>>  *That* has the BNCE button on it.  Make sure that on Instrument-1 the
>>  output poup is set to "Output 1-2".  And in the Bounce dialog, enter
>  > proper start and end times.
>
>That did the trick.  Thanks so much!

Welcome...

>I notice that the output is into two files labeled .aif and .air (which
>I assume means aif left and aif right?).

You mean .ail instead of .aif I suppose?  Yes, that's left & right.

>1. Is there a setting whereby the stereo output can be directed into a
>single aif stereo file?

Options > Preferences > Audio Preferences: uncheck "Force record & 
convert interleaved into split stereo file(s)".  Also search the 
online help for "interleaved".

>2. When I try to convert the separate l and r files to a stereo file, I
>usually get "no split files selected" despite that I clicked on them. 
>I got it to convert once, but don't realize exactly what I did. (a)
>What is the procedure to convert to stereo file?  (b) Whenever I've
>done audio, the suffix .aif appears, but not this time.  Why? And is
>this really an aif file?

Audio window: both the "Audio File" and "Edit" menus have options 
regarding split stereo files.  Never used them myself, so can't 
comment any further.  However, once more look up  "interleaved" in 
the online help.

-- 
Hendrik Jan Veenstra  <h@...>
Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com