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Controll One Issue

2011-08-22 by Roundboy

I have tried two different cables and not sure whate the problem might be.
The pedals 1, 2, 6, and 7 all seem to have the same problem.
When I press them they light up brightly then dim, sometimes I have to tap them twice for the patch to stay.
When I pressed UTILITY on the GSP 2101 itself and I believe I hit 2, then 2, then 3 which lights up all the leds, 1, 2, 6, and 7 did not light up at all.

The first cable was a 5-pin din shielded Nuetrik and the second one was a 5 pin din cheap cable from Guitar Center.

I have tested all with different surge protectors and outlets.

Any help would be awesome.
Thanks,

RE: [gsp-2101] Controll One Issue

2011-08-22 by M M

Doesn't the Control 1 require a 7 pin DIN? And make sure it's connected to the right socket or damage could result.

To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
From: iwannabeinapunkband@...
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 16:36:20 +0000
Subject: [gsp-2101] Controll One Issue

I have tried two different cables and not sure whate the problem might be.
The pedals 1, 2, 6, and 7 all seem to have the same problem.
When I press them they light up brightly then dim, sometimes I have to tap them twice for the patch to stay.
When I pressed UTILITY on the GSP 2101 itself and I believe I hit 2, then 2, then 3 which lights up all the leds, 1, 2, 6, and 7 did not light up at all.

The first cable was a 5-pin din shielded Nuetrik and the second one was a 5 pin din cheap cable from Guitar Center.

I have tested all with different surge protectors and outlets.

Any help would be awesome.
Thanks,

Re: [gsp-2101] Controll One Issue

2011-08-22 by Graham Pearson

The Control One has a standard 5-pin female DIN socket. So does its counterpart socket on the back of the GSP-2101.

Many MIDI cables have only 3 wires, connecting only 3 out of the 5 terminals. The wire you use to connect the Control One to the GSP-2101 must have all 5 pins connected.

NEVER connect the Control One to the GSP-2101 with the GSP-2101 powered on. ALWAYS make sure the GSP-2101 is POWERED OFF before connecting the Control One. NEVER attempt to use the Control One socket on the back of the GSP-2101 for connecting anything other than a Control One, GSP-2101FC, or Johnson J12.

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From: M M

To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 1:34 PM

Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Controll One Issue

Doesn't the Control 1 require a 7 pin DIN? And make sure it's connected to the right socket or damage could result.

To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
From: iwannabeinapunkband@...
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 16:36:20 +0000
Subject: [gsp-2101] Controll One Issue

I have tried two different cables and not sure whate the problem might be.
The pedals 1, 2, 6, and 7 all seem to have the same problem.
When I press them they light up brightly then dim, sometimes I have to tap them twice for the patch to stay.
When I pressed UTILITY on the GSP 2101 itself and I believe I hit 2, then 2, then 3 which lights up all the leds, 1, 2, 6, and 7 did not light up at all.

The first cable was a 5-pin din shielded Nuetrik and the second one was a 5 pin din cheap cable from Guitar Center.

I have tested all with different surge protectors and outlets.

Any help would be awesome.
Thanks,

Re: [gsp-2101] Controll One Issue

2011-08-22 by chris.pelayo@sbcglobal.net

Like M M said you definitely need to have the needed and fully functioning DIN cable. I say fully functioning because many MIDI capable electronic devices actually use only 3 of 5 pins. This is why many MIDI cable manufacturers make 5 pin cables that actually only use 3 of the pins. There's also other types of DIN cables that have more pins but also have only some of the pins wired as well.

All that said you just need to get a fully functional 5 pin MIDI to eliminate that as the possible source of your problems. You'll need to avoid the cheapo ones for sure.

One other thing is that if you're using the Control 1 or 2101FC Digitech pedal board make sure you're using the designated DIN socket for it and NOT the MIDI one(s).

Hope this helps. Let us know how it turns out.

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From: "Roundboy" <iwannabeinapunkband@yahoo.com>

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Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 16:36:20 -0000

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Subject: [gsp-2101] Controll One Issue

Re: Controll One Issue

2011-08-22 by Roundboy

Thanks for all of the help to everyone!
The only one I have been able to find that says anything about all 5 being connected is the HOSA Midi Cable:

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Hosa-MIDI-Cable-336000-i1440945.gc

http://www.zzounds.com/item--HOSMID3

Is this one anyone would recommend?
I just listed this one because it is the first that I have been able to find that specifically states all 5 wired even though one is shielded.
I am not sure if brand dropping is allowed on here, I am just trying to not deal with the GuitCent people anymore.

Trying to just find the cable that ends my problems so I can get back to jamming!

Thanks For Everything Everyone!

--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, chris.pelayo@... wrote:

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>
> Like M M said you definitely need to have the needed and fully functioning DIN cable. I say fully functioning because many MIDI capable electronic devices actually use only 3 of 5 pins. This is why many MIDI cable manufacturers make 5 pin cables that actually only use 3 of the pins. There's also other types of DIN cables that have more pins but also have only some of the pins wired as well. 
> 
> All that said you just need to get a fully functional 5 pin MIDI to eliminate that as the possible source of your problems. You'll need to avoid the cheapo ones for sure. 
> 
> One other thing is that if you're using the Control 1 or 2101FC Digitech pedal board make sure you're using the designated DIN socket for it and NOT the MIDI one(s). 
> 
> Hope this helps. Let us know how it turns out. 
> 
> -
> Sent from Chris R. Pelayo's Blackberry
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Roundboy" <iwannabeinapunkband@...>
> Sender: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 16:36:20 
> To: <gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com>
> Reply-To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [gsp-2101] Controll One Issue
> 
> I have tried two different cables and not sure whate the problem might be.
> The pedals 1, 2, 6, and 7 all seem to have the same problem.
> When I press them they light up brightly then dim, sometimes I have to tap them twice for the patch to stay.
> When I pressed UTILITY on the GSP 2101 itself and I believe I hit 2, then 2, then 3 which lights up all the leds, 1, 2, 6, and 7 did not light up at all.
> 
> The first cable was a 5-pin din shielded Nuetrik and the second one was a 5 pin din cheap cable from Guitar Center.
> 
> I have tested all with different surge protectors and outlets.
> 
> Any help would be awesome.
> Thanks,
>

Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Controll One Issue

2011-08-22 by chris.pelayo@sbcglobal.net

I actually got a bona fide 5 pin from GC, they have them so...

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Sent from Chris R. Pelayo's Blackberry

From: "Roundboy" <iwannabeinapunkband@yahoo.com>

Sender: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com

Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 20:55:49 -0000

To: <gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com>

ReplyTo: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Controll One Issue

Thanks for all of the help to everyone!
The only one I have been able to find that says anything about all 5 being connected is the HOSA Midi Cable:

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Hosa-MIDI-Cable-336000-i1440945.gc

http://www.zzounds.com/item--HOSMID3

Is this one anyone would recommend?
I just listed this one because it is the first that I have been able to find that specifically states all 5 wired even though one is shielded.
I am not sure if brand dropping is allowed on here, I am just trying to not deal with the GuitCent people anymore.

Trying to just find the cable that ends my problems so I can get back to jamming!

Thanks For Everything Everyone!

--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, chris.pelayo@... wrote:
>
> Like M M said you definitely need to have the needed and fully functioning DIN cable. I say fully functioning because many MIDI capable electronic devices actually use only 3 of 5 pins. This is why many MIDI cable manufacturers make 5 pin cables that actually only use 3 of the pins. There's also other types of DIN cables that have more pins but also have only some of the pins wired as well.
>
> All that said you just need to get a fully functional 5 pin MIDI to eliminate that as the possible source of your problems. You'll need to avoid the cheapo ones for sure.
>
> One other thing is that if you're using the Control 1 or 2101FC Digitech pedal board make sure you're using the designated DIN socket for it and NOT the MIDI one(s).
>
> Hope this helps. Let us know how it turns out.
>
> -
> Sent from Chris R. Pelayo's Blackberry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Roundboy" <iwannabeinapunkband@...>
> Sender: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 16:36:20
> To: <gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com>
> Reply-To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [gsp-2101] Controll One Issue
>
> I have tried two different cables and not sure whate the problem might be.
> The pedals 1, 2, 6, and 7 all seem to have the same problem.
> When I press them they light up brightly then dim, sometimes I have to tap them twice for the patch to stay.
> When I pressed UTILITY on the GSP 2101 itself and I believe I hit 2, then 2, then 3 which lights up all the leds, 1, 2, 6, and 7 did not light up at all.
>
> The first cable was a 5-pin din shielded Nuetrik and the second one was a 5 pin din cheap cable from Guitar Center.
>
> I have tested all with different surge protectors and outlets.
>
> Any help would be awesome.
> Thanks,
>

RE: [gsp-2101] Controll One Issue

2011-08-22 by M M

I knew it had something to do with 2 extra pins. Well I've never owned a Control 1. Thanks for the correction.

To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
From: me@...
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 13:47:29 -0500
Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Controll One Issue

The Control One has a standard 5-pin female DIN socket. So does its counterpart socket on the back of the GSP-2101.

Many MIDI cables have only 3 wires, connecting only 3 out of the 5 terminals. The wire you use to connect the Control One to the GSP-2101 must have all 5 pins connected.

----- Original Message -----

From: M M

To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 1:34 PM

Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Controll One Issue

Doesn't the Control 1 require a 7 pin DIN? And make sure it's connected to the right socket or damage could result.

To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
From: iwannabeinapunkband@...
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 16:36:20 +0000
Subject: [gsp-2101] Controll One Issue

I have tried two different cables and not sure whate the problem might be.
The pedals 1, 2, 6, and 7 all seem to have the same problem.
When I press them they light up brightly then dim, sometimes I have to tap them twice for the patch to stay.
When I pressed UTILITY on the GSP 2101 itself and I believe I hit 2, then 2, then 3 which lights up all the leds, 1, 2, 6, and 7 did not light up at all.

The first cable was a 5-pin din shielded Nuetrik and the second one was a 5 pin din cheap cable from Guitar Center.

I have tested all with different surge protectors and outlets.

Any help would be awesome.
Thanks,

RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Controll One Issue

2011-08-22 by M M

You can get 5 pin DINs for computer use that likely have all 5 connected.

To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
From: iwannabeinapunkband@...
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 20:55:49 +0000
Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Controll One Issue

Thanks for all of the help to everyone!
The only one I have been able to find that says anything about all 5 being connected is the HOSA Midi Cable:

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Hosa-MIDI-Cable-336000-i1440945.gc

http://www.zzounds.com/item--HOSMID3

Is this one anyone would recommend?
I just listed this one because it is the first that I have been able to find that specifically states all 5 wired even though one is shielded.
I am not sure if brand dropping is allowed on here, I am just trying to not deal with the GuitCent people anymore.

Trying to just find the cable that ends my problems so I can get back to jamming!

Thanks For Everything Everyone!

--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, chris.pelayo@... wrote:
>
> Like M M said you definitely need to have the needed and fully functioning DIN cable. I say fully functioning because many MIDI capable electronic devices actually use only 3 of 5 pins. This is why many MIDI cable manufacturers make 5 pin cables that actually only use 3 of the pins. There's also other types of DIN cables that have more pins but also have only some of the pins wired as well.
>
> All that said you just need to get a fully functional 5 pin MIDI to eliminate that as the possible source of your problems. You'll need to avoid the cheapo ones for sure.
>
> One other thing is that if you're using the Control 1 or 2101FC Digitech pedal board make sure you're using the designated DIN socket for it and NOT the MIDI one(s).
>
> Hope this helps. Let us know how it turns out.
>
> -
> Sent from Chris R. Pelayo's Blackberry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Roundboy"
> Sender: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 16:36:20
> To: <gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com>
> Reply-To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [gsp-2101] Controll One Issue
>
> I have tried two different cables and not sure whate the problem might be.
> The pedals 1, 2, 6, and 7 all seem to have the same problem.
> When I press them they light up brightly then dim, sometimes I have to tap them twice for the patch to stay.
> When I pressed UTILITY on the GSP 2101 itself and I believe I hit 2, then 2, then 3 which lights up all the leds, 1, 2, 6, and 7 did not light up at all.
>
> The first cable was a 5-pin din shielded Nuetrik and the second one was a 5 pin din cheap cable from Guitar Center.
>
> I have tested all with different surge protectors and outlets.
>
> Any help would be awesome.
> Thanks,
>

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