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2006-02-10 by leon_heller
I tried the Philips sample service a few days ago, ordering two LPC2103s. I've just received them, so the process is working. I also ordered some of the same devices from Digikey, just in case and they arrived a lot quicker. Leon
2006-02-10 by Xtian Xultz
Em Sex 10 Fev 2006 12:08, leon_heller escreveu: > I tried the Philips sample service a few days ago, ordering two > LPC2103s. I've just received them, so the process is working. > > I also ordered some of the same devices from Digikey, just in case and > they arrived a lot quicker. > > Leon Its a dream to live in a country where they send samples... To my country nobody sends samples (sometimes Texas sends, but its rare)
2006-02-10 by Maia
Eu sempre recebo as amostras que peço. Da Philips eu já recebi um LPC2148, uma placa de demonstração de uns CI's controladores de LED e vários CDs. Tá chegando outro LPC2148 que eu nem pedi e vou pedir um LPC2103 esses dias. Também já recebi várias da AD, Texas e Freescale (nacional e internacional) e de alguns distribuidores nacionais. Parece que a AD agora não está pagando mais os impostos, mas mesmo assim, vale a pena. Abraços, Maia
-------Original Message------- From: Xtian Xultz Date: 02/10/06 15:57:25 To: lpc2000@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lpc2000] Samples from Philips Em Sex 10 Fev 2006 12:08, leon_heller escreveu: > I tried the Philips sample service a few days ago, ordering two > LPC2103s. I've just received them, so the process is working. > > I also ordered some of the same devices from Digikey, just in case and > they arrived a lot quicker. > > Leon Its a dream to live in a country where they send samples... To my country nobody sends samples (sometimes Texas sends, but its rare) SPONSORED LINKS Microcontrollers Microprocessor Intel microprocessors Pic microcontrollers YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "lpc2000" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: lpc2000-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2006-02-11 by Joerg Schulze-Clewing
Hello Maia, > > Eu sempre recebo as amostras que peço. Da Philips eu já recebi um LPC2148, > uma placa de demonstração de uns CI's controladores de LED e vários CDs. Tá > chegando outro LPC2148 que eu nem pedi e vou pedir um LPC2103 esses dias. > Também já recebi várias da AD, Texas e Freescale (nacional e internacional) > e de alguns distribuidores nacionais. Parece que a AD agora não está pagando > mais os impostos, mas mesmo assim, vale a pena. Good for you. But it depends whether you work for a large company or not. Some manufacturers easily send samples to a big corporation but when you are a consultant they don't. It is foolish marketing but they do not understand the consequences. I usually drop the design-in if I cannot buy their parts elsewhere, like at Digikey. Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/
2006-02-11 by Sean
If anything you'd think that they'd send samples more to consultants and small companies than to the large companies. Large companies shell out hundreds of thousands on new product development, so saving $50 by getting some free samples isn't a concern. However to an individual saving $50 may be a big deal. I know that Maxim sends out samples to anyone who asks next day delivery (ok, that's a little crazy), yet Coilcraft wouldn't send me samples personally, but when I had a colleague at work ask and had it shipped to work, they sent it without hesitation. In any case Philips sent me the samples I asked for, it took 2 weeks but I got them. -- Sean At 20:07 2/10/2006, you wrote:
>Hello Maia, > > > > Eu sempre recebo as amostras que peço. Da Philips eu já recebi um >LPC2148, > > uma placa de demonstração de uns CI's controladores de LED e vários >CDs. Tá > > chegando outro LPC2148 que eu nem pedi e vou pedir um LPC2103 esses >dias. > > Também já recebi várias da AD, Texas e Freescale (nacional e >internacional) > > e de alguns distribuidores nacionais. Parece que a AD agora não está >pagando > > mais os impostos, mas mesmo assim, vale a pena. > > >Good for you. But it depends whether you work for a large company or >not. Some manufacturers easily send samples to a big corporation but >when you are a consultant they don't. It is foolish marketing but they >do not understand the consequences. I usually drop the design-in if I >cannot buy their parts elsewhere, like at Digikey. > >Regards, Joerg > ><http://www.analogconsultants.com/>http://www.analogconsultants.com/
2006-02-11 by Mauricio Scaff
Here in Brazil, I'm using this simple criteria: If Digikey don't have it them it doesn't exists. How many brazilians do we have in this list ? Is there any survey of where we are from ? How many from USA ? India ? Canada ? Japan ? Mauricio Sean wrote: > > If anything you'd think that they'd send samples more to consultants and > small companies than to the large companies. Large companies shell out > hundreds of thousands on new product development, so saving $50 by > getting > some free samples isn't a concern. However to an individual saving > $50 may > be a big deal. I know that Maxim sends out samples to anyone who asks > next > day delivery (ok, that's a little crazy), yet Coilcraft wouldn't send me > samples personally, but when I had a colleague at work ask and had it > shipped to work, they sent it without hesitation. In any case Philips > sent > me the samples I asked for, it took 2 weeks but I got them. > > -- Sean > > At 20:07 2/10/2006, you wrote: > >Hello Maia, > > > > > > Eu sempre recebo as amostras que peço. Da Philips eu já recebi um > >LPC2148, > > > uma placa de demonstração de uns CI's controladores de LED e vários > >CDs. Tá > > > chegando outro LPC2148 que eu nem pedi e vou pedir um LPC2103 esses > >dias. > > > Também já recebi várias da AD, Texas e Freescale (nacional e > >internacional) > > > e de alguns distribuidores nacionais. Parece que a AD agora não está > >pagando > > > mais os impostos, mas mesmo assim, vale a pena. > > > > > >Good for you. But it depends whether you work for a large company or > >not. Some manufacturers easily send samples to a big corporation but > >when you are a consultant they don't. It is foolish marketing but they > >do not understand the consequences. I usually drop the design-in if I > >cannot buy their parts elsewhere, like at Digikey. > > > >Regards, Joerg > > > ><http://www.analogconsultants.com/>http://www.analogconsultants.com/ > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Microcontrollers > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Microcontrollers&w1=Microcontrollers&w2=Microprocessor&w3=Intel+microprocessors&w4=Pic+microcontrollers&c=4&s=95&.sig=mfaAujKZXA2Z_vxre9sGnQ> > Microprocessor > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Microprocessor&w1=Microcontrollers&w2=Microprocessor&w3=Intel+microprocessors&w4=Pic+microcontrollers&c=4&s=95&.sig=9jjd2D3GOLIESVQssLmLsA> > Intel microprocessors > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Intel+microprocessors&w1=Microcontrollers&w2=Microprocessor&w3=Intel+microprocessors&w4=Pic+microcontrollers&c=4&s=95&.sig=OMnZuqMZX95mgutt4B-tDw> > > Pic microcontrollers > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Pic+microcontrollers&w1=Microcontrollers&w2=Microprocessor&w3=Intel+microprocessors&w4=Pic+microcontrollers&c=4&s=95&.sig=Malspbd0T4Rq3M4Q0nHrfw> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > * Visit your group "lpc2000 > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lpc2000>" on the web. > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > lpc2000-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:lpc2000-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2006-02-11 by rtstofer
--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, Mauricio Scaff <scaffm@...> wrote: > > Here in Brazil, I'm using this simple criteria: If Digikey don't have it > them it doesn't exists. > > How many brazilians do we have in this list ? Is there any survey of > where we are from ? How many from USA ? India ? Canada ? Japan ? > > Mauricio I'm from the US and I agree completely. If DigiKey doesn't have a bunch available in Qty 1, I don't use the part. Having Qty Available = 0 doesn't count. Having to order 3000 minimum doesn't count. Where I worked before I retired, we couldn't accept any samples whatsoever. If a document had the word 'proprietary' on it we had to forward it to an omsbudsman and write a memo about how we could possibly be stupid enough to have taken it and basically pleading to keep our jobs. If we had a competitor's sales literature, we had better be able to prove we got it in a public forum such as an open seminar. True story... Richard
2006-02-11 by Michael Rubitschka
Hi Mauricio Recently I saw this on a german forum. A brazilian member wanted to build the LPC webserver board too. The problem was the high toll rates when sending items to brazil. It is a pitty. Cheers Michael
>From: Mauricio Scaff <scaffm@...> >Reply-To: lpc2000@yahoogroups.com >To: lpc2000@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [lpc2000] Re: Samples from Philips >Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 02:27:01 -0200 > >Here in Brazil, I'm using this simple criteria: If Digikey don't have it >them it doesn't exists. > >How many brazilians do we have in this list ? Is there any survey of >where we are from ? How many from USA ? India ? Canada ? Japan ? > >Mauricio > > > >Sean wrote: > > > > If anything you'd think that they'd send samples more to consultants and > > small companies than to the large companies. Large companies shell out > > hundreds of thousands on new product development, so saving $50 by > > getting > > some free samples isn't a concern. However to an individual saving > > $50 may > > be a big deal. I know that Maxim sends out samples to anyone who asks > > next > > day delivery (ok, that's a little crazy), yet Coilcraft wouldn't send me > > samples personally, but when I had a colleague at work ask and had it > > shipped to work, they sent it without hesitation. In any case Philips > > sent > > me the samples I asked for, it took 2 weeks but I got them. > > > > -- Sean > > > > At 20:07 2/10/2006, you wrote: > > >Hello Maia, > > > > > > > > Eu sempre recebo as amostras que pe\ufffdo. Da Philips eu j\ufffd recebi um > > >LPC2148, > > > > uma placa de demonstra\ufffd\ufffdo de uns CI's controladores de LED e v\ufffdrios > > >CDs. T\ufffd > > > > chegando outro LPC2148 que eu nem pedi e vou pedir um LPC2103 esses > > >dias. > > > > Tamb\ufffdm j\ufffd recebi v\ufffdrias da AD, Texas e Freescale (nacional e > > >internacional) > > > > e de alguns distribuidores nacionais. Parece que a AD agora n\ufffdo est\ufffd > > >pagando > > > > mais os impostos, mas mesmo assim, vale a pena. > > > > > > > > >Good for you. But it depends whether you work for a large company or > > >not. Some manufacturers easily send samples to a big corporation but > > >when you are a consultant they don't. It is foolish marketing but they > > >do not understand the consequences. I usually drop the design-in if I > > >cannot buy their parts elsewhere, like at Digikey. > > > > > >Regards, Joerg > > > > > ><http://www.analogconsultants.com/>http://www.analogconsultants.com/ > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Microcontrollers > > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Microcontrollers&w1=Microcontrollers&w2=Microprocessor&w3=Intel+microprocessors&w4=Pic+microcontrollers&c=4&s=95&.sig=mfaAujKZXA2Z_vxre9sGnQ> > > Microprocessor > > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Microprocessor&w1=Microcontrollers&w2=Microprocessor&w3=Intel+microprocessors&w4=Pic+microcontrollers&c=4&s=95&.sig=9jjd2D3GOLIESVQssLmLsA> > > Intel microprocessors > > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Intel+microprocessors&w1=Microcontrollers&w2=Microprocessor&w3=Intel+microprocessors&w4=Pic+microcontrollers&c=4&s=95&.sig=OMnZuqMZX95mgutt4B-tDw> > > > > Pic microcontrollers > > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Pic+microcontrollers&w1=Microcontrollers&w2=Microprocessor&w3=Intel+microprocessors&w4=Pic+microcontrollers&c=4&s=95&.sig=Malspbd0T4Rq3M4Q0nHrfw> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > * Visit your group "lpc2000 > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lpc2000>" on the web. > > > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > lpc2000-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > <mailto:lpc2000-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2006-02-11 by Tom Walsh
Joerg Schulze-Clewing wrote: >Good for you. But it depends whether you work for a large company or >not. Some manufacturers easily send samples to a big corporation but >when you are a consultant they don't. It is foolish marketing but they >do not understand the consequences. I usually drop the design-in if I >cannot buy their parts elsewhere, like at Digikey. > > > It depends on your credibility, I have been consulting for over ten years and I have no trouble getting samples. The Field Reps know me, I talk the talk and I have clients to backup my requests. What also helps me is that I've been around the industry and was working doing development for a company for eight years before that. If you cannot get samples, then it is time to have a heart-to-heart with the Field Rep.. Invite him to stop by your place when they are in the area and have some coffee. Word gets around who is the real deal. If there is a future question of your qualifications, you can refer them to some Rep you've worked with in the past. Regards, TomW -- Tom Walsh - WN3L - Embedded Systems Consultant http://openhardware.net, http://cyberiansoftware.com "Windows? No thanks, I have work to do..." ----------------------------------------------------
2006-02-11 by Maia
I do not work for a large company. I have a really small (only me) company and when they ask for the number of employers I answer the truth. I think they like me or I'm a luck man. Sorry for my poor English. Regards, Maia
-------Original Message------- From: Joerg Schulze-Clewing Date: 02/10/06 23:07:51 To: lpc2000@yahoogroups.com Subject: [lpc2000] Re: Samples from Philips Hello Maia, > > Eu sempre recebo as amostras que peço. Da Philips eu já recebi um LPC2148, > uma placa de demonstração de uns CI's controladores de LED e vários CDs. Tá > chegando outro LPC2148 que eu nem pedi e vou pedir um LPC2103 esses dias. > Também já recebi várias da AD, Texas e Freescale (nacional e internacional) > e de alguns distribuidores nacionais. Parece que a AD agora não está pagando > mais os impostos, mas mesmo assim, vale a pena. Good for you. But it depends whether you work for a large company or not. Some manufacturers easily send samples to a big corporation but when you are a consultant they don't. It is foolish marketing but they do not understand the consequences. I usually drop the design-in if I cannot buy their parts elsewhere, like at Digikey. Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ SPONSORED LINKS Microcontrollers Microprocessor Intel microprocessors Pic microcontrollers YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "lpc2000" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: lpc2000-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2006-02-11 by katta_sudhir
hi all I am from India and persuing MS Robotics. the philips sample system in india is pathetic. when i requested for two LPC2148 they have informed to contact their distributers. They all replied me that they have a policy of not giving samples to students.i have asked them to send the samples to my department on my name to ensure them that i am student. i am very disappointed with philips sampling system in india. philips has big R&D centre in bangalore, India and they want to ripe the fruits of low cost of R&D in India but they dont want to give samples to students. Spending 18$ on each chip for a student is too much for student in india. The sampling system of Freescale is the best i have ever seen i always get the samle from US in 4 days by FedEx. great product dont win the hearts of people but public realtion of companies also matters. bye sudhir --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, Sean <embeddedrelated@...> wrote: > > > If anything you'd think that they'd send samples more to consultants and > small companies than to the large companies. Large companies shell out > hundreds of thousands on new product development, so saving $50 by getting > some free samples isn't a concern. However to an individual saving $50 may > be a big deal. I know that Maxim sends out samples to anyone who asks next > day delivery (ok, that's a little crazy), yet Coilcraft wouldn't send me > samples personally, but when I had a colleague at work ask and had it > shipped to work, they sent it without hesitation. In any case Philips sent
> me the samples I asked for, it took 2 weeks but I got them. > > -- Sean > > At 20:07 2/10/2006, you wrote: > >Hello Maia, > > > > > > Eu sempre recebo as amostras que peço. Da Philips eu já recebi um > >LPC2148, > > > uma placa de demonstração de uns CI's controladores de LED e vários > >CDs. Tá > > > chegando outro LPC2148 que eu nem pedi e vou pedir um LPC2103 esses > >dias. > > > Também já recebi várias da AD, Texas e Freescale (nacional e > >internacional) > > > e de alguns distribuidores nacionais. Parece que a AD agora não está > >pagando > > > mais os impostos, mas mesmo assim, vale a pena. > > > > > >Good for you. But it depends whether you work for a large company or > >not. Some manufacturers easily send samples to a big corporation but > >when you are a consultant they don't. It is foolish marketing but they > >do not understand the consequences. I usually drop the design-in if I > >cannot buy their parts elsewhere, like at Digikey. > > > >Regards, Joerg > > > ><http://www.analogconsultants.com/>http://www.analogconsultants.com/ >
2006-02-11 by Xtian Xultz
Brazil is a place that is really hard to understand. Only living here for all your life to be little less confused (like, for example, in carnival it is normal to see naked people, but if a woman goes to a beach using topless, she gets to jail, and many tourists cant understand that. One musician from the Queens of Stone Age entered the stage completelly naked and had to sleep onde day in jail). Today, if you had unluck, samples are taxed. The taxes covers even the ship costs! Many companies stop to ship samples to Brazil because of that. The taxes become much more expensive that the material itself. It is hards to live here... Em Sáb 11 Fev 2006 04:58, Michael Rubitschka escreveu:
> Hi Mauricio > > Recently I saw this on a german forum. > A brazilian member wanted to build the > LPC webserver board too. The problem > was the high toll rates when sending items to > brazil. It is a pitty. > > Cheers > Michael > > >From: Mauricio Scaff <scaffm@gmail.com> > >Reply-To: lpc2000@yahoogroups.com > >To: lpc2000@yahoogroups.com > >Subject: Re: [lpc2000] Re: Samples from Philips > >Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 02:27:01 -0200 > > > >Here in Brazil, I'm using this simple criteria: If Digikey don't have it > >them it doesn't exists. > > > >How many brazilians do we have in this list ? Is there any survey of > >where we are from ? How many from USA ? India ? Canada ? Japan ? > > > >Mauricio > > > >Sean wrote: > > > If anything you'd think that they'd send samples more to consultants > > > and small companies than to the large companies. Large companies shell > > > out hundreds of thousands on new product development, so saving $50 by > > > getting > > > some free samples isn't a concern. However to an individual saving > > > $50 may > > > be a big deal. I know that Maxim sends out samples to anyone who asks > > > next > > > day delivery (ok, that's a little crazy), yet Coilcraft wouldn't send > > > me samples personally, but when I had a colleague at work ask and had > > > it shipped to work, they sent it without hesitation. In any case > > > Philips sent > > > me the samples I asked for, it took 2 weeks but I got them. > > > > > > -- Sean > > > > > > At 20:07 2/10/2006, you wrote: > > > >Hello Maia, > > > > > > > > > Eu sempre recebo as amostras que peço. Da Philips eu já recebi um > > > > > > > >LPC2148, > > > > > > > > > uma placa de demonstração de uns CI's controladores de LED e vários > > > > > > > >CDs. Tá > > > > > > > > > chegando outro LPC2148 que eu nem pedi e vou pedir um LPC2103 esses > > > > > > > >dias. > > > > > > > > > Também já recebi várias da AD, Texas e Freescale (nacional e > > > > > > > >internacional) > > > > > > > > > e de alguns distribuidores nacionais. Parece que a AD agora não > > > > > está > > > > > > > >pagando > > > > > > > > > mais os impostos, mas mesmo assim, vale a pena. > > > > > > > >Good for you. But it depends whether you work for a large company or > > > >not. Some manufacturers easily send samples to a big corporation but > > > >when you are a consultant they don't. It is foolish marketing but they > > > >do not understand the consequences. I usually drop the design-in if I > > > >cannot buy their parts elsewhere, like at Digikey. > > > > > > > >Regards, Joerg > > > > > > > ><http://www.analogconsultants.com/>http://www.analogconsultants.com/ > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > > Microcontrollers > > > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Microcontrollers&w1=Microcontrollers& > >w2=Microprocessor&w3=Intel+microprocessors&w4=Pic+microcontrollers&c=4&s=9 > >5&.sig=mfaAujKZXA2Z_vxre9sGnQ> > > > > > Microprocessor > > > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Microprocessor&w1=Microcontrollers&w2 > >=Microprocessor&w3=Intel+microprocessors&w4=Pic+microcontrollers&c=4&s=95& > >.sig=9jjd2D3GOLIESVQssLmLsA> > > > > > Intel microprocessors > > > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Intel+microprocessors&w1=Microcontrol > >lers&w2=Microprocessor&w3=Intel+microprocessors&w4=Pic+microcontrollers&c= > >4&s=95&.sig=OMnZuqMZX95mgutt4B-tDw> > > > > > Pic microcontrollers > > > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Pic+microcontrollers&w1=Microcontroll > >ers&w2=Microprocessor&w3=Intel+microprocessors&w4=Pic+microcontrollers&c=4 > >&s=95&.sig=Malspbd0T4Rq3M4Q0nHrfw> > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > * Visit your group "lpc2000 > > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lpc2000>" on the web. > > > > > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > lpc2000-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > <mailto:lpc2000-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > > > > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >- > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
2006-02-11 by Joerg Schulze-Clewing
Hello Tom, > > > It depends on your credibility, I have been consulting for over ten > years and I have no trouble getting samples. The Field Reps know me, I > talk the talk and I have clients to backup my requests. What also helps > me is that I've been around the industry and was working doing > development for a company for eight years before that. > Same here. 20+ years in the biz with about half of that as a consultant. Even ran a division for years. The problem is that reps are often still in the 20th century and think that the business is still local. It isn't. Even by the time I finish a design neither I nor my client typically know where it's going to be produced. Because it then goes out to bid. Mostly it ends up in China. Reps often don't understand that and think that if they support me the revenue also will have to be in 'their' region. Sorry, but that's not how things work anymore. In fact, they rarely did work that way with my designs even in the early 90's. Also, the usual scenario is that neither I nor my client by anything in quantities. The contract manufacturer does, and they do that wherever they may be located. > If you cannot get samples, then it is time to have a heart-to-heart with > the Field Rep.. Invite him to stop by your place when they are in the > area and have some coffee. Word gets around who is the real deal. If > there is a future question of your qualifications, you can refer them to > some Rep you've worked with in the past. > Oh, I do that. Except that it isn't coffee these days but latte ;-) Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/
2006-02-11 by Joerg Schulze-Clewing
Hello Mauricio, > > Here in Brazil, I'm using this simple criteria: If Digikey don't have it > them it doesn't exists. > Similar here in the US. If Digikey doesn't have it and the manufacturer makes it hard or impossible to get or buy samples it will not be used in our designs. > How many brazilians do we have in this list ? Is there any survey of > where we are from ? How many from USA ? India ? Canada ? Japan ? > There are surprisingly many Brazilians on uC forums, also on the MSP430 group. IIRC they even started (or wanted to start) a group in Portuguese. I still hope they remain here in the international groups. But you guys have to have some serious talk with your politicians. Slapping all those tariffs and customs fees on everything is not a good recipe for a healthy industry base. Todo o mais melhor, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/
2006-02-11 by Xtian Xultz
> There are surprisingly many Brazilians on uC forums, also on the
> MSP430 group. IIRC they even started (or wanted to start) a group in
> Portuguese. I still hope they remain here in the international groups.
Its common to sign the two lists. English is a problem to a lot of people,
like me, my english is a piece of crap, and when I write an email in english
I can hear a lot of people around the world laughting (or crying) when reads
my text. Thats because english is not teached in the school (what they
teaches cant be named "teached"). Yes, I agree with you, I need to go as soon
as possible to an english school.
> But you guys have to have some serious talk with your politicians.
> Slapping all those tariffs and customs fees on everything is not a
> good recipe for a healthy industry base.
You are a little wrong when you say that "is not a good recipe". That killed
the industry. An industry comes to Brazil only when the internal market is
very good. If not, they go out. It happens all the time. Brazil have on of
(if not the biggest) taxes rate. Yes, its true.
If I understood, you are american or german (or a german in America). The
politic in the third world is very different, very hard to understand. An
american president, cant remember exactly who, said that Brazil isnt a
serious country. He was absolutelly right.
> Todo o mais melhor, Joerg
Hehe, sorry, can I correct your portuguese? I see no problems when somebody
corrects my english, so...
The "todo" word is hard to understand. We have two words, "todo" and "tudo"
which I really cant explain the difference. Somebody cans? Normally, "todo"
is a little more especifical, like when you have Lego toys. When you put all
the Legos in the box, you says "todos os legos estão na caixa", but when you
say, for example, "all is done" you must say "tudo está pronto".
When you say "mais melhor" its an error called pleonasmo. Thats because
"melhor" means "the best". What is the best, cant be better. So, saying mais
melhor its like saying the best better.
So, the common expression to say what you wanted is "Tudo de bom para você".
If you want to go crazy, try to understand the difference between "ser" and
"estar" (ehich both means "to be"), and try to understand why whe use the
second person "você" but the verb must be conjugate as the third person.
Sorry for this off-topic, but brazilians love to talk about brazilians stuffs
for foreigners because it makes us feel that whe are nto completelly forgot
in the world...
Best regards ("Alles gutte für dich" - ha, I know a little bit of german :D )> http://www.analogconsultants.com/ > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
2006-02-12 by Joerg Schulze-Clewing
Hello,
> Its common to sign the two lists. English is a problem to a lot of
people,
> like me, my english is a piece of crap, and when I write an email in
english
> I can hear a lot of people around the world laughting (or crying)
when reads
> my text. Thats because english is not teached in the school (what they
> teaches cant be named "teached"). Yes, I agree with you, I need to
go as soon
> as possible to an english school.
>
Your English is very understandable, don't worry about spelling
errors. As long as people understand you are ok. The main thing is to
find the right words which you seem very capable of doing. Also,
everyone who'd wonder about spelling would see just from your email
address that it's from Brazil.
> When you say "mais melhor" its an error called pleonasmo. Thats because
> "melhor" means "the best". What is the best, cant be better. So,
saying mais
> melhor its like saying the best better.
> So, the common expression to say what you wanted is "Tudo de bom
para você".
>
Thanks! Ah, I should have known because Adriano from the MSP430 forum
who is also from Brazil had explained that to me last year. No double
enhancements in one sentence, although we are guilty of sometimes
doing that in German as well. And believe it or not, I have seen that
in a Brazilian business letter :-)
I don't know Portuguese. In college we had a small group where one
student taught us Spanish and we taught him German. Then his father
got sick so he had to return to Panama and two Brazilian women took
over. That way we also heard some Portuguese. It was hard to
concentrate, of course. As meninas brazilian são bonitas.
> Best regards ("Alles gutte für dich" - ha, I know a little bit of
german :D )
>
It's only one 't', "gute". In common German they write it capitalized
"Dich" but that was changed in the last grammar law. Crazy, the
government thought they could change the grammar. Most people
including me did not accept it and just continued using the old style.
Same for many newspapers.
Obrigado, Joerg (hope this was correct...)
http://www.analogconsultants.com/2006-02-13 by Ricardo Wiggers
Joerg Schulze-Clewing escreveu: > <big snip> > > >It's only one 't', "gute". In common German they write it capitalized >"Dich" but that was changed in the last grammar law. Crazy, the >government thought they could change the grammar. Most people >including me did not accept it and just continued using the old style. >Same for many newspapers. > > It happened some time ago also in Brazil, but as the new grammar was mandatory in schools, it took, guess, one genertation for the change to be complete... I took the whole school with the new grammar, and really find funny some things of the older one... It may happen in german as well. I was in 1999 in Germany, and it was quite confusing, since the language teachers didn't know exactly if the should teach the new or the old grammar, so we kind of got both and a tendency to mix up them.... to Xtian: the você and tu from Portuguese have the same origin of the Sie and Du in German, formal and informal forms... The Sie in German gets also in the third person. The difference in Brazil between formal and informal got away, and now it's a regional diference in use. In Portugal, as long as I know, there's still the difference between formal and informal (and I'm sure there's someone from Portugal in this forum that could assure/correct me)... MFG, Ricardo
>Obrigado, Joerg (hope this was correct...) > > > > >
2006-05-09 by vineet jain
Can we ask for 1 sample of LPC2103FBD48-S from Philips. Atleast the site says so. Need to try before placing any order. Thanks, Vineet. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2006-05-09 by Leon Heller
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From: "vineet jain" <vineetrvce@...> To: <lpc2000@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 7:35 AM Subject: [lpc2000] Samples from Philips Can we ask for 1 sample of LPC2103FBD48-S from Philips. Atleast the site says so. Need to try before placing any order. I got a couple in about a week. Leon --- [This E-mail has been scanned for viruses but it is your responsibility to maintain up to date anti virus software on the device that you are currently using to read this email. ]
2006-05-09 by vineet jain
How do you apply for them. There is no link in the website. Leon : Could you guide me. Thanks, Vineet. Leon Heller <leon.heller@...> wrote: ----- Original Message -----
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Subject: [lpc2000] Samples from Philips
Can we ask for 1 sample of LPC2103FBD48-S from Philips.
Atleast the site says so. Need to try before placing any order.
I got a couple in about a week.
Leon
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2006-05-09 by Leon Heller
----- Original Message -----
From: "vineet jain" <vineetrvce@...> To: <lpc2000@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [lpc2000] Samples from Philips How do you apply for them. There is no link in the website. Leon : Could you guide me. I didn't have any trouble previously but I can't seem to find it now. Digi-Key has stocks, anyway. Leon
2006-05-09 by philips_marketing_usa
Maybe I can clear up the confusion. Philips only provides samples via a weblink for initial, pre-production samples. Once a part is in production, samples and small quantities can be obtained from your local distributors and the sample link is removed. --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Leon Heller" <leon.heller@...> wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "vineet jain" <vineetrvce@...> > To: <lpc2000@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:20 AM > Subject: Re: [lpc2000] Samples from Philips > > > How do you apply for them. There is no link in the website. > Leon : Could you guide me. > > I didn't have any trouble previously but I can't seem to find it now.
> Digi-Key has stocks, anyway. > > Leon >
2006-05-10 by vineet jain
There are distributors in India, I checked with a few. But they are only interested in bulk order. Can you site anyone who would give samples here?
Thanks,
Vineet.
philips_marketing_usa <philips_marketing_usa@yahoo.com> wrote: Maybe I can clear up the confusion. Philips only provides samples
via a weblink for initial, pre-production samples. Once a part is
in production, samples and small quantities can be obtained from
your local distributors and the sample link is removed.
--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Leon Heller" <leon.heller@...>
wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "vineet jain" <vineetrvce@...>
> To: <lpc2000@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [lpc2000] Samples from Philips
>
>
> How do you apply for them. There is no link in the website.
> Leon : Could you guide me.
>
> I didn't have any trouble previously but I can't seem to find it
now.
> Digi-Key has stocks, anyway.
>
> Leon
>
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2006-05-10 by Mukund Deshmukh
>There are distributors in India, I checked with a few. But they are only interested in bulk order. Can you site anyone who >would give samples here? did you try Electronika Sales (Mr. Micky Tel 09840834498) Best Regards, Mukund Deshmukh. Beta Computronics Pvt Ltd 10/1, IT Park, Parsodi, Nagpur-440022 Cell - 9422113746
2006-05-10 by Leon Heller
----- Original Message -----
From: "vineet jain" <vineetrvce@...> To: <lpc2000@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 5:52 AM Subject: Re: [lpc2000] Re: Samples from Philips There are distributors in India, I checked with a few. But they are only interested in bulk order. Can you site anyone who would give samples here? You can order small quantities from Digi-Key. Shipping is expensive, though. Leon --- [This E-mail has been scanned for viruses but it is your responsibility to maintain up to date anti virus software on the device that you are currently using to read this email. ]
2006-05-10 by vineet jain
No point in purchasing inexpensive things from outside. I landed up paying more than 32 USD for Olimex Wiggler. Strictly looking for someone in India. Thanks anyways, Vineet. Leon Heller <leon.heller@bulldoghome.com> wrote: ----- Original Message -----
From: "vineet jain" <vineetrvce@...>
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Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 5:52 AM
Subject: Re: [lpc2000] Re: Samples from Philips
There are distributors in India, I checked with a few. But they are only
interested in bulk order. Can you site anyone who would give samples here?
You can order small quantities from Digi-Key. Shipping is expensive, though.
Leon
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