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Hi; Midi Controller

Hi; Midi Controller

2006-11-06 by ugras beratli

Hello for everyone. I bought a VF-1 but I can't decide which midi controller do I get. First of all I also don't know too much about MIDI devices. But As I search in internet I find some options like Roland GFC-50 or FC-200 or Behringer FBC-1010. Behringer is as half as cheap then Roland things. But I can't decide which one is true choice. I also have a nice Crybaby 535Q and few good distortion pedals like ProCo Rat Deucetone, A Boss MT-2, and a old Marshall DriveMaster, so I need Boss VF-1 for some mod effects and delay and some more fx that I will run them to a Marshall AVT150 (or Marshall JCM800 2210 half-stack in few weeks ). In this case I wonder if I can use this device as seperate effect settings (for example use chorus by assaign them different pedals on midi controller.Simply like stompboxes) with a Midi Controller.Or can I use midi controller for tap tempo delay settings ect.
  Thank you for your help.



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RE: [BossVF1] Hi; Midi Controller

2006-11-06 by David Spangler

The Yamaha MFC10, the Roland FC200 and the Behringer FCB1010 are all good
foot controllers for the VF-1. The FC200 requires less programming than the
others. The Behringer is very large and heavy and I found it to be very
challenging to program to perform the desired VF-1 functions. If you do not
require the expression pedal, then any MIDI controller will work for the
basic functions. For the individual separate stompbox operation, you will
probably need one of the three controllers I mentioned above.

 

Good Luck!

 

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Subject: [BossVF1] Hi; Midi Controller

 

Hello for everyone. I bought a VF-1 but I can't decide which midi controller
do I get. First of all I also don't know too much about MIDI devices. But As
I search in internet I find some options like Roland GFC-50 or FC-200 or
Behringer FBC-1010. Behringer is as half as cheap then Roland things. But I
can't decide which one is true choice. I also have a nice Crybaby 535Q and
few good distortion pedals like ProCo Rat Deucetone, A Boss MT-2, and a old
Marshall DriveMaster, so I need Boss VF-1 for some mod effects and delay and
some more fx that I will run them to a Marshall AVT150 (or Marshall JCM800
2210 half-stack in few weeks ). In this case I wonder if I can use this
device as seperate effect settings (for example use chorus by assaign them
different pedals on midi controller.Simply like stompboxes) with a Midi
Controller.Or can I use midi controller for tap tempo delay settings ect.
Thank you for your help.

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Re: RE: [BossVF1] Hi; Midi Controller

2006-11-06 by gschmid@chello.fr

I have a FCB1010 and a VF-1. They work together rather well.
The FCB is very robust and extremely versatile as a midi controller but I second
 that it is quite complex to setup.
I have my favorites patches mapped on the 10 switches, 1 expression pedal for the volume
and the other one for the WHA effect. Dont ask me how I did this, I dont even remember ( I 
am in no way a midi guru and did the setup almost 1 year ago).
All I can say is that it can be done and it is pretty cool.

Yours,
Guillaume.
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> From: "David Spangler" <spangler@...>
> Date: 2006/11/06 Mon PM 04:28:22 CET
> To: <BossVF1@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [BossVF1] Hi; Midi Controller
> 
> The Yamaha MFC10, the Roland FC200 and the Behringer FCB1010 are all good
> foot controllers for the VF-1. The FC200 requires less programming than the
> others. The Behringer is very large and heavy and I found it to be very
> challenging to program to perform the desired VF-1 functions. If you do not
> require the expression pedal, then any MIDI controller will work for the
> basic functions. For the individual separate stompbox operation, you will
> probably need one of the three controllers I mentioned above.
> 
>  
> 
> Good Luck!
> 
>  
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: BossVF1@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BossVF1@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> ugras beratli
> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 09:12
> To: BossVF1@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [BossVF1] Hi; Midi Controller
> 
>  
> 
> Hello for everyone. I bought a VF-1 but I can't decide which midi controller
> do I get. First of all I also don't know too much about MIDI devices. But As
> I search in internet I find some options like Roland GFC-50 or FC-200 or
> Behringer FBC-1010. Behringer is as half as cheap then Roland things. But I
> can't decide which one is true choice. I also have a nice Crybaby 535Q and
> few good distortion pedals like ProCo Rat Deucetone, A Boss MT-2, and a old
> Marshall DriveMaster, so I need Boss VF-1 for some mod effects and delay and
> some more fx that I will run them to a Marshall AVT150 (or Marshall JCM800
> 2210 half-stack in few weeks ). In this case I wonder if I can use this
> device as seperate effect settings (for example use chorus by assaign them
> different pedals on midi controller.Simply like stompboxes) with a Midi
> Controller.Or can I use midi controller for tap tempo delay settings ect.
> Thank you for your help.
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RE: RE: [BossVF1] Hi; Midi Controller

2006-11-06 by Craig McRae

I use a midi-mouse by tech 21 - it basically just controls scanning up and
down through the presets, but I really like it - I don't need anything for
modulation of wah or volume, so it's great for me.

 

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gschmid@...
Sent: November 6, 2006 11:02 AM
To: BossVF1@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: [BossVF1] Hi; Midi Controller

 

I have a FCB1010 and a VF-1. They work together rather well.
The FCB is very robust and extremely versatile as a midi controller but I
second
that it is quite complex to setup.
I have my favorites patches mapped on the 10 switches, 1 expression pedal
for the volume
and the other one for the WHA effect. Dont ask me how I did this, I dont
even remember ( I 
am in no way a midi guru and did the setup almost 1 year ago).
All I can say is that it can be done and it is pretty cool.

Yours,
Guillaume.
> 
> From: "David Spangler" <spangler@ktc. <mailto:spangler%40ktc.com> com>
> Date: 2006/11/06 Mon PM 04:28:22 CET
> To: <BossVF1@yahoogroups <mailto:BossVF1%40yahoogroups.com> .com>
> Subject: RE: [BossVF1] Hi; Midi Controller
> 
> The Yamaha MFC10, the Roland FC200 and the Behringer FCB1010 are all good
> foot controllers for the VF-1. The FC200 requires less programming than
the
> others. The Behringer is very large and heavy and I found it to be very
> challenging to program to perform the desired VF-1 functions. If you do
not
> require the expression pedal, then any MIDI controller will work for the
> basic functions. For the individual separate stompbox operation, you will
> probably need one of the three controllers I mentioned above.
> 
> 
> 
> Good Luck!
> 
> 
> 
> _____ 
> 
> From: BossVF1@yahoogroups <mailto:BossVF1%40yahoogroups.com> .com
[mailto:BossVF1@yahoogroups <mailto:BossVF1%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
Behalf Of
> ugras beratli
> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 09:12
> To: BossVF1@yahoogroups <mailto:BossVF1%40yahoogroups.com> .com
> Subject: [BossVF1] Hi; Midi Controller
> 
> 
> 
> Hello for everyone. I bought a VF-1 but I can't decide which midi
controller
> do I get. First of all I also don't know too much about MIDI devices. But
As
> I search in internet I find some options like Roland GFC-50 or FC-200 or
> Behringer FBC-1010. Behringer is as half as cheap then Roland things. But
I
> can't decide which one is true choice. I also have a nice Crybaby 535Q and
> few good distortion pedals like ProCo Rat Deucetone, A Boss MT-2, and a
old
> Marshall DriveMaster, so I need Boss VF-1 for some mod effects and delay
and
> some more fx that I will run them to a Marshall AVT150 (or Marshall JCM800
> 2210 half-stack in few weeks ). In this case I wonder if I can use this
> device as seperate effect settings (for example use chorus by assaign them
> different pedals on midi controller.Simply like stompboxes) with a Midi
> Controller.Or can I use midi controller for tap tempo delay settings ect.
> Thank you for your help.
> 
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Re: Hi; Midi Controller

2006-11-06 by Rod Smith

The FCB1010 works very well with the VF-1 with the standard Behringer firmware 
(v.2.4.1 or later).  There's also a user-developed unofficial firmware (UnO) which 
you can purchase very cheaply from several sources.  The UnO firmware makes using 
the FCB1010 in "stompbox" mode very simple.  There are also several software 
editors available for download - these make programming a little easier. Check out 
the FCB1010 Yahoo group - there's always lots of good stuff in there.  I like the 
1010 because once you get past the programming it can be very flexible and can grow 
with your rig.

Best,
Rod

Re: [BossVF1] Re: Hi; Midi Controller

2006-11-07 by Eddy Naim

I found the FCB1010 to be a bit of a pain in the ass... once I've 
configured the expression pedal and set the pressed pedal as value 0, it 
quickly goes out of synch, and when I press the pedal all the way it 
doesn't reach the peak value.

But it's definitely sturdy and flexible.

Eddy

Rod Smith wrote:
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>
> The FCB1010 works very well with the VF-1 with the standard Behringer 
> firmware
> (v.2.4.1 or later). There's also a user-developed unofficial firmware 
> (UnO) which
> you can purchase very cheaply from several sources. The UnO firmware 
> makes using
> the FCB1010 in "stompbox" mode very simple. There are also several 
> software
> editors available for download - these make programming a little 
> easier. Check out
> the FCB1010 Yahoo group - there's always lots of good stuff in there. 
> I like the
> 1010 because once you get past the programming it can be very flexible 
> and can grow
> with your rig.
>
> Best,
> Rod
>
>
>
>

Re: [BossVF1] Re: Hi; Midi Controller

2006-11-07 by Krispen Hartung

Hmmm...I have not experienced this problem. Are you configuring/calibrating the pedal for each button? Sometimes the customization of the unit causes more work, but it's worth it in the end.  I wish the unit had a feature so that you could create a global configuration change (like CC # or midi change #, etc for an express pedal) with a single set of steps rather than having to do it fo each button.

Kris
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Eddy Naim 
  To: BossVF1@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 4:47 PM
  Subject: Re: [BossVF1] Re: Hi; Midi Controller


  I found the FCB1010 to be a bit of a pain in the ass... once I've 
  configured the expression pedal and set the pressed pedal as value 0, it 
  quickly goes out of synch, and when I press the pedal all the way it 
  doesn't reach the peak value.

  But it's definitely sturdy and flexible.

  Eddy

  Rod Smith wrote:
  >
  > The FCB1010 works very well with the VF-1 with the standard Behringer 
  > firmware
  > (v.2.4.1 or later). There's also a user-developed unofficial firmware 
  > (UnO) which
  > you can purchase very cheaply from several sources. The UnO firmware 
  > makes using
  > the FCB1010 in "stompbox" mode very simple. There are also several 
  > software
  > editors available for download - these make programming a little 
  > easier. Check out
  > the FCB1010 Yahoo group - there's always lots of good stuff in there. 
  > I like the
  > 1010 because once you get past the programming it can be very flexible 
  > and can grow
  > with your rig.
  >
  > Best,
  > Rod
  >
  >
  >
  > 



   

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Re: [BossVF1] Re: Hi; Midi Controller

2006-11-08 by ugras beratli

Sorry Again:)
  how can I learn basics of midi and basic terminology of midi? Anyone know sources about that? As I'm not a technician (I'm really strange of this kind of things) I need some practical knowledge only for use this things basicly.
  Thank you... 

Krispen Hartung <khartung@...> wrote:
          Hmmm...I have not experienced this problem. Are you configuring/calibrating the pedal for each button? Sometimes the customization of the unit causes more work, but it's worth it in the end. I wish the unit had a feature so that you could create a global configuration change (like CC # or midi change #, etc for an express pedal) with a single set of steps rather than having to do it fo each button.

Kris
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: Eddy Naim 
To: BossVF1@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: [BossVF1] Re: Hi; Midi Controller

I found the FCB1010 to be a bit of a pain in the ass... once I've 
configured the expression pedal and set the pressed pedal as value 0, it 
quickly goes out of synch, and when I press the pedal all the way it 
doesn't reach the peak value.

But it's definitely sturdy and flexible.

Eddy

Rod Smith wrote:
>
> The FCB1010 works very well with the VF-1 with the standard Behringer 
> firmware
> (v.2.4.1 or later). There's also a user-developed unofficial firmware 
> (UnO) which
> you can purchase very cheaply from several sources. The UnO firmware 
> makes using
> the FCB1010 in "stompbox" mode very simple. There are also several 
> software
> editors available for download - these make programming a little 
> easier. Check out
> the FCB1010 Yahoo group - there's always lots of good stuff in there. 
> I like the
> 1010 because once you get past the programming it can be very flexible 
> and can grow
> with your rig.
>
> Best,
> Rod
>
>
>
> 

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Re: [BossVF1] Re: Hi; Midi Controller

2006-11-08 by Krispen Hartung

Here are a few resources:

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1995_articles/aug95/midibasics1.html

http://www.tweakheadz.com/how_to_get_started_with_midi.html

Kris
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ugras beratli 
  To: BossVF1@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 2:18 AM
  Subject: Re: [BossVF1] Re: Hi; Midi Controller


  Sorry Again:)
  how can I learn basics of midi and basic terminology of midi? Anyone know sources about that? As I'm not a technician (I'm really strange of this kind of things) I need some practical knowledge only for use this things basicly.
  Thank you... 

  Krispen Hartung <khartung@...> wrote:
  Hmmm...I have not experienced this problem. Are you configuring/calibrating the pedal for each button? Sometimes the customization of the unit causes more work, but it's worth it in the end. I wish the unit had a feature so that you could create a global configuration change (like CC # or midi change #, etc for an express pedal) with a single set of steps rather than having to do it fo each button.

  Kris

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Eddy Naim 
  To: BossVF1@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 4:47 PM
  Subject: Re: [BossVF1] Re: Hi; Midi Controller

  I found the FCB1010 to be a bit of a pain in the ass... once I've 
  configured the expression pedal and set the pressed pedal as value 0, it 
  quickly goes out of synch, and when I press the pedal all the way it 
  doesn't reach the peak value.

  But it's definitely sturdy and flexible.

  Eddy

  Rod Smith wrote:
  >
  > The FCB1010 works very well with the VF-1 with the standard Behringer 
  > firmware
  > (v.2.4.1 or later). There's also a user-developed unofficial firmware 
  > (UnO) which
  > you can purchase very cheaply from several sources. The UnO firmware 
  > makes using
  > the FCB1010 in "stompbox" mode very simple. There are also several 
  > software
  > editors available for download - these make programming a little 
  > easier. Check out
  > the FCB1010 Yahoo group - there's always lots of good stuff in there. 
  > I like the
  > 1010 because once you get past the programming it can be very flexible 
  > and can grow
  > with your rig.
  >
  > Best,
  > Rod
  >
  >
  >
  > 

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