Casio CZ/ VZ/ FZ - Pro Series

Okay, this group has 1073 members but only owns a total of 133 Casio
Synths/Samplers?????

Whats up with that?

There is a poll, opened in NOVEMBER OF 2003 (!!) to see how many of
what  the members of this list have.  And while it may not list every
single possible Casio unit, it pretty much covers the bases.

Please, go to
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/CZsynth/surveys?id=1156573
and indicate which unit you own.  If you have one that is not listed,
select the closes thing to it maybe?

Since many of us have more then one unit, we should get some
interesting numbers in this poll if everyone will just take 2 minutes
to open their browser and answer the poll.

We may be able to help each other better if we understand what the
distribution of equipment looks like.  So please, vote (or oudate your
vote if have already voted) today!

Larry T.

I have a cz-1 and the loveable tx-416 (dx7 rack)

To layer these two together...give or take, do I
have basically the sound of the VZ line.

I love layering them together but I'm wondering
if the VZ would give me any *real* difference?

mjb

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The VZ neither sounds like a CZ nor like a DX synthesizer, it's comparable with 
the difference between subtractive synths...
Copared to the DX the VZ sounds less glassy and punchy but "richer" and rather 
digital...

Btw. your question about the D50, I got the D-550 two days ago and it sounds 
rather open and punchy compared MT32 and D110...
 
..Summa


On 8 Sep 2005 at 10:44, M.J.B. wrote:

> I have a cz-1 and the loveable tx-416 (dx7 rack)
> 
> To layer these two together...give or take, do I
> have basically the sound of the VZ line.
> 
> I love layering them together but I'm wondering
> if the VZ would give me any *real* difference?
> 
> mjb
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Hi Larry,

 

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Anyway, add FZ-10, FZ-20 and PG380 to the list 

 

Maybe people who joined since then didn�t know about the poll.   Your
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Okay, this group has 1073 members but only owns a total of 133 Casio
Synths/Samplers?????

Whats up with that?

There is a poll, opened in NOVEMBER OF 2003 (!!) to see how many of
what  the members of this list have.  And while it may not list every
single possible Casio unit, it pretty much covers the bases.

Please, go to
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and indicate which unit you own.  If you have one that is not listed,
select the closes thing to it maybe?

Since many of us have more then one unit, we should get some
interesting numbers in this poll if everyone will just take 2 minutes
to open their browser and answer the poll.

We may be able to help each other better if we understand what the
distribution of equipment looks like.  So please, vote (or oudate your
vote if have already voted) today!

Larry T.






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I think we're shooting in the same direction, but where you stated 
the VZ doesn't sound like a CZ or a DZ, I would say "yeah, they don't 
sound exactly alike, but depending on the patches they can sound 
pretty damn similar."  There's a VERY similar digital quality on some 
of the string patches on the VZ that sound very CZ-like to me (very 
static), though some the electric piano patches on the VZ prompt more 
of a DX comparison.

Good description on the DX sounds.  Definitely the smoother quality 
of sound (and "glassy") with DX-FM.  I went nuts over the FM sound 
(ironically) after hearing Eddie Jobson's "Theme of Secrets" recorded 
with a Synclavier II. 

Have an FS1R, DX200, CZ-1, and a VZ-10 and they all have different 
strengths though I mostly use them in similar roles.  My only advice 
with the VZ-10 (and it's already been touched on in earlier posts) is 
it's not the friendliest beast to program.  Easier than a DX (without 
software assistance), but still menu/button intensive.  My investment 
of time tweaking doesn't always yield the usable results I'm looking 
for when I just want to make music.

Still, if you're a synth nut, it's a way-cool means of synthesis 
that's fun to play with...

Wadrad

--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Summa" <flotorian@f...> wrote:
> The VZ neither sounds like a CZ nor like a DX synthesizer, it's 
comparable with 
> the difference between subtractive synths...
> Copared to the DX the VZ sounds less glassy and punchy but "richer" 
and rather 
> digital...
> 
> Btw. your question about the D50, I got the D-550 two days ago and 
it sounds 
> rather open and punchy compared MT32 and D110...
>  
> ..Summa
> 
> 
> On 8 Sep 2005 at 10:44, M.J.B. wrote:
> 
> > I have a cz-1 and the loveable tx-416 (dx7 rack)
> > 
> > To layer these two together...give or take, do I
> > have basically the sound of the VZ line.
> > 
> > I love layering them together but I'm wondering
> > if the VZ would give me any *real* difference?
> > 
> > mjb
> > 
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Just for my 2 cents, I was a bit disappointed when I got a VZ and compared 
it to the CZ's sound, although I do agree some patches are quite similar (I 
didn't feel that way about the strings as much as the bells, IIRC).

As to FM, never been a great fan.  I like it for particularly odd sounds and 
as a layer for others and like anything I'll use it if it's in my hands, but 
the sound never grabbed in much of any context.  I did get a DX100 since the 
price was right and I like having a variety of sounds so it fills a little 
gap, but it has been rather rarely used.

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "wadrad" <wadrad@...>
To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 1:38 PM
Subject: [CZsynth] Re: Layering a DX7 + CZ1 = VZ1?


>I think we're shooting in the same direction, but where you stated
> the VZ doesn't sound like a CZ or a DZ, I would say "yeah, they don't
> sound exactly alike, but depending on the patches they can sound
> pretty damn similar."  There's a VERY similar digital quality on some
> of the string patches on the VZ that sound very CZ-like to me (very
> static), though some the electric piano patches on the VZ prompt more
> of a DX comparison.
>

I was once (1987?) taught to program a DX7, and I realised that it's very 
mathematical. You sort of program how you want the sound to develop, as 
opposed to substractive synthesis where you would have a basic sound and 
then shape it with modifiers.

I have yet to get into CZ/VZ progamming, but the CZ just sounded naff to me, 
however the VZ is excellent, and certainly on a par with DX sounds.

As for layering, I'm currently layering VZ piano sounds with pads on my 
OB-12 - I find the VZ and a VA work very well together.


On 9/10/05, Wilson Zorn <wilson.zorn@...> wrote:
> 
> Just for my 2 cents, I was a bit disappointed when I got a VZ and compared
> it to the CZ's sound, although I do agree some patches are quite similar 
> (I
> didn't feel that way about the strings as much as the bells, IIRC).
> 
> As to FM, never been a great fan. I like it for particularly odd sounds 
> and
> as a layer for others and like anything I'll use it if it's in my hands, 
> but
> the sound never grabbed in much of any context. I did get a DX100 since 
> the
> price was right and I like having a variety of sounds so it fills a little
> gap, but it has been rather rarely used.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "wadrad" <wadrad@...>
> To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 1:38 PM
> Subject: [CZsynth] Re: Layering a DX7 + CZ1 = VZ1?
> 
> 
> >I think we're shooting in the same direction, but where you stated
> > the VZ doesn't sound like a CZ or a DZ, I would say "yeah, they don't
> > sound exactly alike, but depending on the patches they can sound
> > pretty damn similar." There's a VERY similar digital quality on some
> > of the string patches on the VZ that sound very CZ-like to me (very
> > static), though some the electric piano patches on the VZ prompt more
> > of a DX comparison.
> >
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