Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Hello from Italy.
I play in a band performing only 80's and pure 70's Rock.
DTXII has very good sound set to play this music.

My real problem is the SNARE. Often my snare miss some beat...
or it reproduces Ghost notes.  

I think it's time to change the normal Yamaha PAD and buy a new one.
I would Pintech SNARE... but i don't know if "Pintech Acoustech 
Electronic Piccolo Snare"  plays better than "Pintech Concertcast" 

What is the best choice ??

Considering in Italy there is no way to buy it, can You tell me where 
can i take it ONLINE ??

Thanks for all.
Cikko

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "re_ispanico" <re_ispanico@...> wrote:
> My real problem is the SNARE. Often my snare miss some beat...
> or it reproduces Ghost notes.  

Using a snare on a snare stand can certainly help.

> 
> I think it's time to change the normal Yamaha PAD and buy a new one.
> I would Pintech SNARE... but i don't know if "Pintech Acoustech 
> Electronic Piccolo Snare"  plays better than "Pintech Concertcast" 

Or a TP100 pad from the DTXtreme?

> 
> Considering in Italy there is no way to buy it, can You tell me where 
> can i take it ONLINE ??

Pintech have an EU site but it is down for some reason at the moment.
 Try emailing Ranald Mackay ranald@...

I have the TP100 and the 10" Concertcast and keep swapping them
backwards and forwards - I haven't yet made up my mind which I prefer.

Keith.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "re_ispanico" <re_ispanico@...> 
wrote:
>
> Hello from Italy.
> I play in a band performing only 80's and pure 70's Rock.
> DTXII has very good sound set to play this music.
> 
> My real problem is the SNARE. Often my snare miss some beat...
> or it reproduces Ghost notes.  
> 
> I think it's time to change the normal Yamaha PAD and buy a new 
one.
> I would Pintech SNARE... but i don't know if "Pintech Acoustech 
> Electronic Piccolo Snare"  plays better than "Pintech Concertcast" 
> 
> What is the best choice ??
> 
> Considering in Italy there is no way to buy it, can You tell me 
where 
> can i take it ONLINE ??
> 
> Thanks for all.
> Cikko

Cikko,

My wife bought a Pintech Concertcast snare for me as a present. (I 
also use the DTXpress II.) I found it to be too big and out of 
proportion for the set. I also found the mesh head to be too 
different from the 'feel' perspective, compared to the rest of the 
pads in the set. I returned the concertcast and went with the Yamaha 
TP100. It is slightly larger than the other pads and has similar 
response. I am very happy with this combination.

Good Luck,
Randy
>

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Randy" <ramaseje@...> wrote:

> My wife bought a Pintech Concertcast snare for me as a present. (I 
> also use the DTXpress II.) I found it to be too big and out of 
> proportion for the set. I also found the mesh head to be too 
> different from the 'feel' perspective, compared to the rest of the 
> pads in the set. I returned the concertcast and went with the Yamaha 
> TP100. It is slightly larger than the other pads and has similar 
> response. I am very happy with this combination.

Randy,

I am guessing the Concertcast was not the 10"?  I was advised to keep
to a 10" to prevent it being oversized compared to the rest of the kit
so the size is not a problem - the same as the TP100.

I am still comparing the two.  The Concertcast has less stick noise
and is bouncier.  The volume varies considerably as you go from the
centre to the edge (more so than the Roland mesh pads, I am told). 
This can be used to your advantage or it can be a nuisance, depending
on your point of view.  I have the dual zone Concertcast, but it needs
either two inputs or a "magic box" to get the rim sound because it is
dual piezo.  Doing cross stick sounds requires proper drumming
technique (and bashes your sticks to bits due to the metal rim)
whereas with the TP100 you can just hit the rim how you like.  The
volume knob on the TP100 is handy.

I have only been drumming for a couple of years and only on electronic
kit, so my experience is rather narrow.

Keith.

On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 07:40:19 -0000, Keith wrote:
> I am still comparing the two.  The Concertcast has less stick noise
> and is bouncier.  The volume varies considerably as you go from the
> centre to the edge (more so than the Roland mesh pads, I am told).
> This can be used to your advantage or it can be a nuisance,
> depending on your point of view.  I have the dual zone Concertcast,
> but it needs either two inputs or a "magic box" to get the rim
> sound because it is dual piezo.  Doing cross stick sounds requires
> proper drumming technique (and bashes your sticks to bits due to
> the metal rim) whereas with the TP100 you can just hit the rim how
> you like.  The volume knob on the TP100 is handy.

Rubber rim strips can be had that will eliminate the "bashed stick"
and noise problems from the rim. I have Hart Dynamics Pro Snare and
Toms and they all have the rubber rim strips. It helps a lot.

I'm not positive, but I think I've seen it listed on the Drumbalaya
web site. I believe it will work with the Pintech snare rims -- ask
Drumbalaya they will probably know for sure.

Matt Pobursky

You can just go to an auto parts store and buy a coil of the appropriate 
size rubber tubing and slit open one side and then put it over the rim.

Ken



----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Matt Pobursky" <ccsuser@...>
To: <DTXpress@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: [DTXpress] Re: a new Snare for my DTXpressII


> On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 07:40:19 -0000, Keith wrote:
>> I am still comparing the two.  The Concertcast has less stick noise
>> and is bouncier.  The volume varies considerably as you go from the
>> centre to the edge (more so than the Roland mesh pads, I am told).
>> This can be used to your advantage or it can be a nuisance,
>> depending on your point of view.  I have the dual zone Concertcast,
>> but it needs either two inputs or a "magic box" to get the rim
>> sound because it is dual piezo.  Doing cross stick sounds requires
>> proper drumming technique (and bashes your sticks to bits due to
>> the metal rim) whereas with the TP100 you can just hit the rim how
>> you like.  The volume knob on the TP100 is handy.
>
> Rubber rim strips can be had that will eliminate the "bashed stick"
> and noise problems from the rim. I have Hart Dynamics Pro Snare and
> Toms and they all have the rubber rim strips. It helps a lot.
>
> I'm not positive, but I think I've seen it listed on the Drumbalaya
> web site. I believe it will work with the Pintech snare rims -- ask
> Drumbalaya they will probably know for sure.
>
> Matt Pobursky
>
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--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Ken" <boomer17@...> wrote:
>
> You can just go to an auto parts store and buy a coil of the
appropriate 
> size rubber tubing and slit open one side and then put it over the rim.
> 
> Ken

Thanks, I will have to look into something like that while I still
have some sticks left.

Keith.

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--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Maria La Bella <re_ispanico@...> wrote:
>
> Hi boys... and thank u all for  help.
>    
>   I think my choice will be on TP100....
>   i was already afraid for the difference between mesh and gum..
>   now You convinced to me.... but first i wanna try to play my DTXII
snare on a stand....  
>    
>   I'll keep You informed
>    
>   Cikko

Hi Cikko,

just got my "extended" DTXpress3 special yesterday. I had my dealer
beef it up with another PCY130 mono crash as well as a TP120 snarepad!
I`m very glad that my dealer convinced me to shell out those extra
bucks for the TP120 instead of the TP100, which was also my original
choice- the TP120 feels a lot more snare-like, maybe just because of
it`s size and weight? I initially also didn`t want to bother with a
separate snare stand no more, but the solid feel while working the pad
 makes more than up on it, I´d say.
On my old TD-8 set the whole rack was shaking while drumming on the
snare (and I`m not a hard hitter!), what I`ve got now feels a lot better!
So my recommendation for you is to even spend a little bit more and go
for the TP120 instead of TP100!

have fun!
Wolfgang

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--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Maria La Bella <re_ispanico@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Wolfgang and thanks for the reply.
>   You convinced me... i'll buy TP120... and put it on a snare stand.
>    
>   Last question... are You able to use the 3 different snare zones
with Your DTXIII ?? ... also the red trimmer ??
>    
>   Cikko

Cikko,

The three zones will work and there is a volume control on the
TP100/TP120 that will also work on the DTXpress, but the red knob will
do nothing on the DTXpress module.

Keith.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Maria La Bella <re_ispanico@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Wolfgang and thanks for the reply.
>   You convinced me... i'll buy TP120... and put it on a snare stand.
>    
>   Last question... are You able to use the 3 different snare zones
with Your DTXIII ?? ... also the red trimmer ??
>    
>   Cikko
>    
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Hi Cikko,

I can use the three zones of the pad but not the red knob as far as I
know. this knob will only work with the DTXtremeII!
Otherwise you`ve made the right decision- you`ll be as happy as I am
with that pad!!!

Have fun!
Wolfgang

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