Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

I intend to get a dtxpress, but pricing in the UK is terrible. The 
cheapest I can get a dtxpress II is £875 ($1500). I've seen US shops 
selling the dtxpress III special edition for less!
Anyway, my question is twofold - 
1) Anyone know anywhere in the UK I can get one for less? 
2) Should I go for an older kit - do they last or are the pads ruined 
after such a beating????

Many thanks to anyone that can help.

Keep up the good work.
Paul

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Jones" <spjones_uk@y...> wrote:
> I intend to get a dtxpress, but pricing in the UK is terrible. The 
> cheapest I can get a dtxpress II is £875 ($1500). I've seen US 
shops 
> selling the dtxpress III special edition for less!
> Anyway, my question is twofold - 
> 1) Anyone know anywhere in the UK I can get one for less? 

Hi Paul,

Have you tried Thomann, which has a price of 990 Eur for the III?

> 2) Should I go for an older kit - do they last or are the pads 
ruined 
> after such a beating????

A used DTXpress II wouldn't be a bad option if the alternative were a 
new DTXpress IIISTD. The change in this case would simply be the new 
cymbal sounds in the module and a redesigned rack. You could probably 
live without them if money, availability, timing, etc. were important 
considerations. The gum rubber pads and cymbals generally hold up 
pretty well over time; there are exceptions to every trend, but in 
this case not worth passing up a bargain if one is to be had. I don't 
think that an older kit would work as well if the DTXpressIIISP were 
the preferred alternative. The new round cymbals (one of them with 
three voices), the curved rack, and the hi hat on a stand might be 
too hard to resist. In any event, unless the deal were really great, 
you might not want to go so far back as the DTXpress I or the DTX 
v2.0, because they'd be limiting if you ever wanted to pursue newer 
Yamaha pads and cymbals, and, at that age, the components themselves 
might be compromised in a meaningful sense (thougn not necessarily).

Ed

--- Paul Jones wrote:
> I intend to get a dtxpress, but pricing in the UK is terrible.
> The cheapest I can get a dtxpress II is £875 ($1500).

You should not have to pay more than £750 new. Drumwright and Piedog 
advertise at £745, Poole Percussion at £799, and there are others. 
They also turn up on eBay from time to time, though there's only one 
there now and it looks very sus (new seller with zero feedback and 
only a catalogue photo).

Availability will be your problem. I doubt you'll be able to find 
stock. The DTXpressIII is available in Europe (several posters here 
have reported having one). Thomann has the II advertised at E990 
(£702) on which you'd obviously have shipping.

If it were me, right now I would hang on for the III.

Stewart

--- Gunny wrote:
> It states that Thoman are selling the III not the !! for #702

Ah, an I for an I, a II for a 702...

Stewart

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Jones" <spjones_uk@y...> wrote:
> I intend to get a dtxpress, but pricing in the UK is terrible. The 
> cheapest I can get a dtxpress II is £875 ($1500). I've seen US shops 
> selling the dtxpress III special edition for less!
> Anyway, my question is twofold - 
> 1) Anyone know anywhere in the UK I can get one for less? 
> 2) Should I go for an older kit - do they last or are the pads ruined 
> after such a beating????
> 
> Many thanks to anyone that can help.
> 
> Keep up the good work.
> Paul

Try piedog.com, andertonsonline.co.uk, starland.co.uk, scheerers.com,
giggear.co.uk, soundattak.co.uk, 4-drums.co.uk, hwaudio.co.uk,
footesmusic.com.  All £800 or less, cheapest first.  Also,
www.netzmarkt.de/thomann which are probably the cheapest, but German,
and shop.drummusic.com which were cheap (and non-UK) but now want £870
for the DTXpress 3 claiming £1338 list price, which is rubbish, but
strangely with the DTXpress 3 special at £953!

Keith.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, <nicholas.gunn@b...> wrote:
> It states that Thoman are selling the III not the !! for #702

Thomann are notoriously bad at updating their non-German listings 
which I suppose I can forgive them for.  The picture is of a III, 
the item name says III but then they go and put II in the 
description.  I also love the way they drift into German half way 
through. :-)

Chris

Many thanks to everyone. I wasn't expecting such a prompt response. 

Your help and advice has been very much appreciated. I thought the I 
for an I gag was excellent!

Paul.

They look to be offering a great deal...
One more question.
How is the hi-hat triggered? Does the pedal come with the kit?

Thanks,
Paul.

sorry for my ignorance!


--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <proguk@h...> wrote:

> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, <nicholas.gunn@b...> wrote:
> > It states that Thoman are selling the III not the !! for #702
> 
> Thomann are notoriously bad at updating their non-German listings 
> which I suppose I can forgive them for.  The picture is of a III, 
> the item name says III but then they go and put II in the 
> description.  I also love the way they drift into German half way 
> through. :-)
> 
> Chris

--- Paul Jones wrote:
> How is the hi-hat triggered? Does
> the pedal come with the kit?

An e-hat has two components - the "cymbal" pad, which is just a 
regular pizeo trigger pad - and an electronic device which simulates 
the variable opening of the hi-hat "cymbals". In the case of the 
DTXpress, this device is built into the HH65 pedal that comes with 
the kit (DTXpressII or III Standard). In the case of the new RHH130 
hi-hat pad on the DTXpressIII Special and the DTXtreme kits, this 
device lives in the hi-hat pad and is operated by a standard 
mechanical hi-hat pedal.

Stewart

Stewart,


Thanks for the reply...

I've just placed an order for a DTXpress III. They said that pedals 
were not included, so I wanted to know how the hi-hat worked and what 
kind of pedal I would need to buy. I suppose that they don't include 
the kick pedal, but DO include the HH?

Thanks.
Paul.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "moosetication" <moosetication@y...> 
wrote:
> --- Paul Jones wrote:
> > How is the hi-hat triggered? Does
> > the pedal come with the kit?
> 
> An e-hat has two components - the "cymbal" pad, which is just a 
> regular pizeo trigger pad - and an electronic device which 
simulates 

> the variable opening of the hi-hat "cymbals". In the case of the 
> DTXpress, this device is built into the HH65 pedal that comes with 
> the kit (DTXpressII or III Standard). In the case of the new RHH130 
> hi-hat pad on the DTXpressIII Special and the DTXtreme kits, this 
> device lives in the hi-hat pad and is operated by a standard 
> mechanical hi-hat pedal.
> 
> Stewart

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Jones" <paul.jones@a...> wrote:
> Stewart,
> 
> 
> Thanks for the reply...
> 
> I've just placed an order for a DTXpress III. They said that pedals 
> were not included, so I wanted to know how the hi-hat worked and 
what 
> kind of pedal I would need to buy. I suppose that they don't 
include 
> the kick pedal, but DO include the HH?

Paul,

Right. Kick pedal is normally not included, though many sellers offer 
one as a bonus (with Yamaha's blessing). 

Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> Kick pedal is normally not included, though many sellers offer 
> one as a bonus (with Yamaha's blessing). 

Bizarrely, Thomann sell the DTXpress III with a pedal or without one 
for exactly the same price.  The order codes are 167662 or 156682 
respectively although the pedal included doesn't appear to be the 
best in the world.

Chris

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <proguk@h...> wrote:
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > Kick pedal is normally not included, though many sellers offer 
> > one as a bonus (with Yamaha's blessing). 
> 
> Bizarrely, Thomann sell the DTXpress III with a pedal or without 
one 
> for exactly the same price.  The order codes are 167662 or 156682 
> respectively although the pedal included doesn't appear to be the 
> best in the world.

If it's that bad, maybe they should have reduced the price.

emf wrote:

>--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <proguk@h...> wrote:
>  
>
>>--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>Kick pedal is normally not included, though many sellers offer 
>>>one as a bonus (with Yamaha's blessing). 
>>>      
>>>
>>Bizarrely, Thomann sell the DTXpress III with a pedal or without 
>>    
>>
>one 
>  
>
>>for exactly the same price.  The order codes are 167662 or 156682 
>>respectively although the pedal included doesn't appear to be the 
>>best in the world.
>>    
>>
>
>If it's that bad, maybe they should have reduced the price.
>
>
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>"If it's that bad, maybe they should have reduced the price." You mean reduce the prie when the pedal is included? Sweeeeet.
>  
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--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Creighton Higgins <creighton@l...> 
wrote:

You mean reduce the prie when the pedal is included? Sweeeeet.

My sentiments exactly.

I've ordered a dtxIII from Thomann, but they're asking for a 
photocopy of the card including the signature and a copy of a 
statement.
Is this normal practice for this company? I've never had to do this 
before.

Any help pleasE?

Paul.

Hi

I've ordered stuff from Thomann numerous times. It was always enough
for me to fill out the credit card details in the web. No questions
asked. Did you use the secure server on their checkout?

Never had problems with Thomann, though. Always had my orders
delivered ok.

Harri

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Jones" <paul.jones@a...> wrote:

> I've ordered a dtxIII from Thomann, but they're asking for a 
> photocopy of the card including the signature and a copy of a 
> statement.
> Is this normal practice for this company? I've never had to do this 
> before.
> 
> Any help pleasE?
> 
> Paul.

Thanks for that,

It sounded dodgy to me!

Paul.
--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Harri Ohra-aho" <hoekfi@y...> wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I've ordered stuff from Thomann numerous times. It was always enough
> for me to fill out the credit card details in the web. No questions
> asked. Did you use the secure server on their checkout?
> 
> Never had problems with Thomann, though. Always had my orders
> delivered ok.
> 
> Harri
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Jones" <paul.jones@a...> 
wrote:
> > I've ordered a dtxIII from Thomann, but they're asking for a 
> > photocopy of the card including the signature and a copy of a 
> > statement.
> > Is this normal practice for this company? I've never had to do 
this 

> > before.
> > 
> > Any help pleasE?
> > 
> > Paul.

sounds like they're trying to protect themselves from credit card fraud 
as much as they can. They've most likely been burned before, so they 
presume the owner of the card will go through these procedures to make 
his purchase.
Don't worry, it's ultimately protecting you, as well.

Stuart McConaghy
Canopus Drums
Meinl Cymbals
SilverFox Sticks

On Friday, March 19, 2004, at 04:50  AM, Paul Jones wrote:

> I've ordered a dtxIII from Thomann, but they're asking for a
> photocopy of the card including the signature and a copy of a
> statement.
> Is this normal practice for this company? I've never had to do this
> before.
>
> Any help pleasE?
>
> Paul.
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--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Harri Ohra-aho" <hoekfi@y...> wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I've ordered stuff from Thomann numerous times. It was always enough
> for me to fill out the credit card details in the web. No questions
> asked.

Yes, same here on numerous purchases.
 
> Never had problems with Thomann, though. Always had my orders
> delivered ok.

Seconded.  Fill in the details, get an email saying it's being dealt 
with, another when the goods are despatched and they arrive a few 
days later.  An excellent company to deal with in my opinion.

Chris

They are insisting I send a photocopy of the credit card and a copy 
of the card statement showing the address and/or a photocopy of my 
passport.
Can you believe that? 

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <proguk@h...> wrote:
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Harri Ohra-aho" <hoekfi@y...> 
wrote:
> > Hi
> > 
> > I've ordered stuff from Thomann numerous times. It was always 
enough
> > for me to fill out the credit card details in the web. No 
questions
> > asked.
> 
> Yes, same here on numerous purchases.
>  
> > Never had problems with Thomann, though. Always had my orders
> > delivered ok.
> 
> Seconded.  Fill in the details, get an email saying it's being 
dealt 

> with, another when the goods are despatched and they arrive a few 
> days later.  An excellent company to deal with in my opinion.
> 
> Chris