Re: Epson 4800 vs. 2400 question
2006-02-04 by Clayton Jones
Hello Ginny, ... BO prints can be surprisingly beautiful (for all the reasons listed in the article), but not for all images - you have to be selective. It is
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2006-02-04 by Clayton Jones
Hello Ginny, ... BO prints can be surprisingly beautiful (for all the reasons listed in the article), but not for all images - you have to be selective. It is
2006-02-04 by Clayton Jones
Bob, ... From comments here in the forum the R800/1800 are not the best printers for BW. But they do use pigment inks. Perhaps a good move would be to get an
2006-02-04 by bwbonkers
... wrote: Hi Steve ... ......Just to pick up on what Peter said, a slight correction is in order. QTR ... it. ... density ... it a ... Better
2006-02-04 by Clayton Jones
Hello Stephan, ... I have been using a 2400 with Epson K3 inks for 5+ months and have had no clogging (never even needed a nozzle check). I haven t used K7 so
2006-02-04 by helen_bach2003
I also find that this is a superb paper with Epson inks, both the 2200 K2 set and the 2400 K3 set - the matte black is the same ink, as far as I know. It is
2006-02-04 by l33ry
Thank you, Clayton. I overlooked the cleaning waste. I did wonder if a second printer would be an easier way, but it sounds like it would be more economical as
2006-02-04 by Paul Roark
Ginny, ... There is no dedicated B&W inkset for the 2400 that I m aware of. I may get to it later, but my current project is aimed at taking cheaper printers
2006-02-04 by Steve Kale
Sorry you re out of luck on that one - it will not allow BO printing without a RIP. FYI you don t need an expensive Eye-One to use QTR Create ICC. It can
2006-02-04 by warinstephan
Hi all, I m very happy printing BW on HMLE Photorag with my HP 7960. I would like to go to to A3+ size. People seem not to be happy with 8750 on Hmle Photorag.
2006-02-04 by Douglas meeuwsen
no need for science with the 2400. It works great on all epson premium papers. Very easy, with not a lot of test-printing. Just find a tone setting that you
2006-02-04 by ginnylady33
Dear Paul, Thanks for the most informative response. I have decided to upgrade my B&W printing to a 2400. I ve got the budget to do so. I wonder if you would
2006-02-04 by Paul Roark
... If the 1280-90 were the only samples of dye ink printers that we ve used with pigments, I d have to agree that maybe dye printers ought to be avoided for
2006-02-04 by ginnylady33
Wow! Thanks Peter. What a wealth of information on Clayton s site! It is most informative. Interesting that he is so pleased with Black Only printing. I assume
2006-02-04 by Yoelis Diaz
Is good to read this answer. Thank you . Clayton Jones wrote: Hello Yoelis, ... You do not need to be a scientist to make good BW prints with a
2006-02-04 by Clayton Jones
Hello Bob, ... Lots of people are using MIS pigment inks in these printers and reporting few if any clogs. I didn t use cleaning carts with I put MIS in my
2006-02-04 by bwbonkers
... 1) I use a GretagMacbeth Eyeone spectrophotometer an expensive device used for measuring printed targets used in the creation of colour ICC profiles. Roy
2006-02-04 by Danny Twang
Thanks Greg, that did the trick! danny ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2006-02-04 by ginnylady33
Thanks Peter for the useful advice. 1-What is this spectro. QTR ICC profile ? I ve no idea. Could you elaborate? 2-Where is Clayton s website ? Appreciate
2006-02-04 by bwbonkers
Ginny The R2400 is a great printer for colour and B&W requiring no special third party software such as RIPs to produce quality prints. I upgraded a few months
2006-02-04 by jamesdsteele2001
Somewhere on this list you will find instructions for for resetting the Epson 4000 Maintenance Tank with the control panel. I believe you turn off the
2006-02-04 by ginnylady33
Part of me hopes that my 2100 will blow up so I have an excuse to get the 2400 as well. ROFL. Too funny...... Ginny PS-I wonder if someone could address my
2006-02-04 by Steve Kale
... Out of the box you will notice a huge improvement. (Yes the 4800 is a beast and, as a pro printer, quite a bit more expensive.) ... I can t speak for ink
2006-02-04 by ginnylady33
Ah...OK Steve. Thanks for that info. In that case I ll go with the 2400. Especially after considering the weight and price of the 4800. With the 2400, would
2006-02-04 by Steve Kale
Ginny It s substantially more rugged in construction and virtually all other aspects. Whether that shows up in print is another story but I have no doubt
2006-02-04 by ginnylady33
Could you elaborate on your comment regarding the 4800? Are you hinting that it makes even better B&Ws than the 2400? Ginny ... professional ... little ...
2006-02-04 by ginnylady33
Thanks Steve, Just what is QTR Create ICC? Ginny ... profiles made ... course ... later
2006-02-04 by Steve Kale
Especially when one ink is dye (soluble) and the other is little chunks of solid pigment. It s worth having a basic understanding of how a piezo print head
2006-02-04 by Bob Frost
Mark, I agee. As the 1280/90 was designed to work with DYE inks, it isn t the least bit surprising that it won t work properly with pigment inks, as you and
2006-02-04 by Steve Kale
I think you will be very surprised with the quality of the 2400 s out-of-the-box B&W prints. They can be improved by using ICC profiles made with QTR Create
2006-02-04 by Steve Kale
Yikes. The 2400 is very, very good but not part of Epson s professional line-up. It is, rather, their top-of-line consumer model. A great little machine
2006-02-04 by Steve Kale
Yoelis The 2400 is a great printer (a Godsend in fact) and you will get great prints from it using Epson Adv B&W. Have fun Steve
2006-02-04 by ginnylady33
Thanks for this VERY informative reply! It is a huge help to me. One last question: Does the 24oo produce stunning B&W prints with the Epson Inks or need I go
2006-02-04 by ginnylady33
Well, as I said in my post, I m new to this board so forgive my not seeing your posts and those of others. My experience is that the 1280 is awful with the
2006-02-04 by kenstrain2000
Of course not! Make beautiful art. Have fun. The science** is very helpful (to some) to aid reliable communication, where the art is not directly visible, but
2006-02-04 by kenstrain2000
... You did not give very precise info about the type of carts etc. So the following is general advice based mostly on personal experience. I used 1290/1270
2006-02-04 by Barrington Maye
R2400 v R1800 The R2400 and R1800 are from the same mould, i.e. they look the same. The R1800 targets the consumer market, whereas the R2400 is for the
2006-02-04 by Tom OConnell
The February print exchange is now full with one alternate. Please email only if you would like to be second alternate for February. cheers, Tom O Connell
2006-02-04 by l33ry
Hello, I have some stupid newbie questions that I could not find clear answers to: On the Epson R220, I intend to alternate using Epson color (dyebased) and
2006-02-04 by Clayton Jones
Hello Yoelis, ... You do not need to be a scientist to make good BW prints with a 2400. Please read article #9 at this web link, it shows an easy way
2006-02-04 by William John Smith
I have been using a 1280 for the last three years with MIS pigments inks with very little trouble. An occasional clogging, no big thing. One just has to know
2006-02-04 by Clayton Jones
Hello Mark, ... LOL! There, there, it s going to be ok. Wouldn t you like to have a nice cup of tea? [ggg]. Thanks for a good laugh, made my evening.
2006-02-04 by mark_roth_505
It is absolutely amazing to me that since I AND COUNTLESS OTHERS have posted on this board, more than a lot of times, along with other experienced users of
2006-02-04 by Steven Karafyllakis
Ginny; ... So you re printing with the Epson driver as well, which means it is trying to synthesize B&W from all the color inks. Unless you have a custom color
2006-02-04 by scott_now_coming
I thought Roland manufactured the Epson printers for Epson (or some other company). Epson may have their own technology, but doesn t someone build the printers
2006-02-04 by Steven Karafyllakis
Ginny; If you really have one that has no banding, you re very lucky; Keep it and treat it well, talk to it nicely, give it all major holidays off... My R1800s
2006-02-04 by ginnylady33
Thanks for your comments Steve. I m printing B&W on the 1800 with the std. Epson inkset. I ve not used any third party inks. I m ready to give up on the 1280
2006-02-04 by Steven Karafyllakis
Hi Ginny; It unfortunately was/is quite common for the 1280 to need more frequent cleaning cycles, though I m puzzled by the thin white line. I went
2006-02-04 by Greg
... like ... paper.... ... I think you will need the SK188 tool. Here might be the 4000 reset procedure:
2006-02-04 by ginnylady33
I m wondering how the 1800 stacks up against the 2400. Could someone elaborate on the differences in color and B&W output? Thanks Ginny
2006-02-04 by ginnylady33
Hmmmm....I have an 1800 and have had zero banding problems with either color or B&W. Strange........ Ginny