Digital BW, The Print

> I recently installed the UT2 inks for my Epson 1280.  After about 5-7
> prints, I started getting thin black lines on the prints.  Sometimes
> it's one long line, other times it's several thin lines in a
> grouping.  Has anyone experienced this type of problem before and if
> so, what did you do to resolve it?

I have the same printer and inks and the same problem. In my case there are
two types of lines. One is a single distinct  line that looks like someone
used a ruler and a #2 pencil and drew a straight line from the top to the
bottom of the image. This line is most obvious in areas like skies but it's
always there and always in the same place on the image.  The other type of
line isn't as distinct, isn't of uniform width or intensity, and tends to
appear in groups.

I haven't found a fix for the first kind and I suspect it's a mechanical
problem with my scanner (you don't say whether you use a flatbed scanner or
not, if you do and if the lines appear on your monitor screen as well as the
print then it may just be a matter of keeping the scanner clean, even small
amounts of dust can create lines in the image). The second type of line or
groups of lines has been fixed by properly aligning the heads (I put the
paper on a light box and use an 8X loupe).

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Michaels" <bob@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 9:03 AM
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Epson 1280 Thin Black Lines on Printout




Do your lines look like they could be smears or one nozzle that fires
continously? If it looks like one nozzle firing, do they extend
outside the print area on one side? In either case it probably has
nothing to do with the ink but I'd try putting color dye carts back in
to be sure.

If it's a smear, you need to clean the bottom of the heads with a
windex soaked paper towel.

If it's a nozzle firing, you're really out of luck as it's an
electrical connection problem between the printer and the heads and is
unrepairable. I had this and got Epson to do a warranty replacement.
This problem was discussed quite a bit recently over on the Epson
priter Yahoo group.

Bob Michaels

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "jturner4210626"
<JTurner421@a...> wrote:
>
> I recently installed the UT2 inks for my Epson 1280.  After about 5-7
> prints, I started getting thin black lines on the prints.  Sometimes
> it's one long line, other times it's several thin lines in a
> grouping.  Has anyone experienced this type of problem before and if
> so, what did you do to resolve it?
>
> --Joel Turner






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That's exactly what I get.  

It's not a scanner problem as two if the images came form a digital 
SLR. My guess is that the carts are not 100% compatible.  I just put 
my color catridges back in and the problem disappeared.  When I 
reinstalled the MIS carts the lines reappeared.  I am going to 
contact the company and request a new set.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "B. Campbell" 
<bellis60@v...> wrote:
> > I recently installed the UT2 inks for my Epson 1280.  After about 
5-7
> > prints, I started getting thin black lines on the prints.  
Sometimes
> > it's one long line, other times it's several thin lines in a
> > grouping.  Has anyone experienced this type of problem before and 
if
> > so, what did you do to resolve it?
> 
> I have the same printer and inks and the same problem. In my case 
there are
> two types of lines. One is a single distinct  line that looks like 
someone
> used a ruler and a #2 pencil and drew a straight line from the top 
to the
> bottom of the image. This line is most obvious in areas like skies 
but it's
> always there and always in the same place on the image.  The other 
type of
> line isn't as distinct, isn't of uniform width or intensity, and 
tends to
> appear in groups.
> 
> I haven't found a fix for the first kind and I suspect it's a 
mechanical
> problem with my scanner (you don't say whether you use a flatbed 
scanner or
> not, if you do and if the lines appear on your monitor screen as 
well as the
> print then it may just be a matter of keeping the scanner clean, 
even small
> amounts of dust can create lines in the image). The second type of 
line or
> groups of lines has been fixed by properly aligning the heads (I 
put the
> paper on a light box and use an 8X loupe).
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bob Michaels" <bob@b...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 9:03 AM
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Epson 1280 Thin Black Lines on Printout
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Do your lines look like they could be smears or one nozzle that 
fires
> continously? If it looks like one nozzle firing, do they extend
> outside the print area on one side? In either case it probably has
> nothing to do with the ink but I'd try putting color dye carts back 
in
> to be sure.
> 
> If it's a smear, you need to clean the bottom of the heads with a
> windex soaked paper towel.
> 
> If it's a nozzle firing, you're really out of luck as it's an
> electrical connection problem between the printer and the heads and 
is
> unrepairable. I had this and got Epson to do a warranty replacement.
> This problem was discussed quite a bit recently over on the Epson
> priter Yahoo group.
> 
> Bob Michaels
> 
> --- In 
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "jturner4210626"
> <JTurner421@a...> wrote:
> >
> > I recently installed the UT2 inks for my Epson 1280.  After about 
5-7
> > prints, I started getting thin black lines on the prints.  
Sometimes
> > it's one long line, other times it's several thin lines in a
> > grouping.  Has anyone experienced this type of problem before and 
if
> > so, what did you do to resolve it?
> >
> > --Joel Turner
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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INABILITY
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> ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR 
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>It's not a scanner problem as two if the images came form a digital
>SLR. My guess is that the carts are not 100% compatible.  I just put
>my color catridges back in and the problem disappeared.  When I
>reinstalled the MIS carts the lines reappeared.  I am going to
>contact the company and request a new set.

I've had a number of problems with the MIS cartridges over the years and
they've always been very good about replacing them. Their customer service
in my experience has been great, you talk with real prople and they're very
nice.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jturner4210626" <JTurner421@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 10:55 AM
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Epson 1280 Thin Black Lines on Printout




That's exactly what I get.

It's not a scanner problem as two if the images came form a digital
SLR. My guess is that the carts are not 100% compatible.  I just put
my color catridges back in and the problem disappeared.  When I
reinstalled the MIS carts the lines reappeared.  I am going to
contact the company and request a new set.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "B. Campbell"
<bellis60@v...> wrote:
> > I recently installed the UT2 inks for my Epson 1280.  After about
5-7
> > prints, I started getting thin black lines on the prints.
Sometimes
> > it's one long line, other times it's several thin lines in a
> > grouping.  Has anyone experienced this type of problem before and
if
> > so, what did you do to resolve it?
>
> I have the same printer and inks and the same problem. In my case
there are
> two types of lines. One is a single distinct  line that looks like
someone
> used a ruler and a #2 pencil and drew a straight line from the top
to the
> bottom of the image. This line is most obvious in areas like skies
but it's
> always there and always in the same place on the image.  The other
type of
> line isn't as distinct, isn't of uniform width or intensity, and
tends to
> appear in groups.
>
> I haven't found a fix for the first kind and I suspect it's a
mechanical
> problem with my scanner (you don't say whether you use a flatbed
scanner or
> not, if you do and if the lines appear on your monitor screen as
well as the
> print then it may just be a matter of keeping the scanner clean,
even small
> amounts of dust can create lines in the image). The second type of
line or
> groups of lines has been fixed by properly aligning the heads (I
put the
> paper on a light box and use an 8X loupe).
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bob Michaels" <bob@b...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 9:03 AM
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Epson 1280 Thin Black Lines on Printout
>
>
>
>
> Do your lines look like they could be smears or one nozzle that
fires
> continously? If it looks like one nozzle firing, do they extend
> outside the print area on one side? In either case it probably has
> nothing to do with the ink but I'd try putting color dye carts back
in
> to be sure.
>
> If it's a smear, you need to clean the bottom of the heads with a
> windex soaked paper towel.
>
> If it's a nozzle firing, you're really out of luck as it's an
> electrical connection problem between the printer and the heads and
is
> unrepairable. I had this and got Epson to do a warranty replacement.
> This problem was discussed quite a bit recently over on the Epson
> priter Yahoo group.
>
> Bob Michaels
>
> --- In
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "jturner4210626"
> <JTurner421@a...> wrote:
> >
> > I recently installed the UT2 inks for my Epson 1280.  After about
5-7
> > prints, I started getting thin black lines on the prints.
Sometimes
> > it's one long line, other times it's several thin lines in a
> > grouping.  Has anyone experienced this type of problem before and
if
> > so, what did you do to resolve it?
> >
> > --Joel Turner
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other
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> GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF
THE  "OWNER" AND
> "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED
OF THE
> POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE
INABILITY
> TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED
ACCESS TO OR
> ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR
CONDUCT OF ANY
> THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY
OTHER
> MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP.
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Quick follow up.  I e-mailed tech support at MIS and this was their 
reply:


This problem can be caused by a slightly over filled cartridge. It 
does not pose a problem and can usually be cleared by running three 
cleaning cycles. You may repeat the process if necessary and you may 
also print our purgeblack page to prevent the system from trying to 
spray extra ink. 
 
It wiill clear up by the time you have finished these steps. 
 
You down load our purge files at this link....
http://www.inksupply.info/?_a=downloads



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "jturner4210626" 
<JTurner421@a...> wrote:
> 
> That's exactly what I get.  
> 
> It's not a scanner problem as two if the images came form a digital 
> SLR. My guess is that the carts are not 100% compatible.  I just 
put 
> my color catridges back in and the problem disappeared.  When I 
> reinstalled the MIS carts the lines reappeared.  I am going to 
> contact the company and request a new set.
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "B. Campbell" 
> <bellis60@v...> wrote:
> > > I recently installed the UT2 inks for my Epson 1280.  After 
about 
> 5-7
> > > prints, I started getting thin black lines on the prints.  
> Sometimes
> > > it's one long line, other times it's several thin lines in a
> > > grouping.  Has anyone experienced this type of problem before 
and 
> if
> > > so, what did you do to resolve it?
> > 
> > I have the same printer and inks and the same problem. In my case 
> there are
> > two types of lines. One is a single distinct  line that looks 
like 
> someone
> > used a ruler and a #2 pencil and drew a straight line from the 
top 
> to the
> > bottom of the image. This line is most obvious in areas like 
skies 
> but it's
> > always there and always in the same place on the image.  The 
other 
> type of
> > line isn't as distinct, isn't of uniform width or intensity, and 
> tends to
> > appear in groups.
> > 
> > I haven't found a fix for the first kind and I suspect it's a 
> mechanical
> > problem with my scanner (you don't say whether you use a flatbed 
> scanner or
> > not, if you do and if the lines appear on your monitor screen as 
> well as the
> > print then it may just be a matter of keeping the scanner clean, 
> even small
> > amounts of dust can create lines in the image). The second type 
of 
> line or
> > groups of lines has been fixed by properly aligning the heads (I 
> put the
> > paper on a light box and use an 8X loupe).
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Bob Michaels" <bob@b...>
> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 9:03 AM
> > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Epson 1280 Thin Black Lines on Printout
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Do your lines look like they could be smears or one nozzle that 
> fires
> > continously? If it looks like one nozzle firing, do they extend
> > outside the print area on one side? In either case it probably has
> > nothing to do with the ink but I'd try putting color dye carts 
back 
> in
> > to be sure.
> > 
> > If it's a smear, you need to clean the bottom of the heads with a
> > windex soaked paper towel.
> > 
> > If it's a nozzle firing, you're really out of luck as it's an
> > electrical connection problem between the printer and the heads 
and 
> is
> > unrepairable. I had this and got Epson to do a warranty 
replacement.
> > This problem was discussed quite a bit recently over on the Epson
> > priter Yahoo group.
> > 
> > Bob Michaels
> > 
> > --- In 
> DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "jturner4210626"
> > <JTurner421@a...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I recently installed the UT2 inks for my Epson 1280.  After 
about 
> 5-7
> > > prints, I started getting thin black lines on the prints.  
> Sometimes
> > > it's one long line, other times it's several thin lines in a
> > > grouping.  Has anyone experienced this type of problem before 
and 
> if
> > > so, what did you do to resolve it?
> > >
> > > --Joel Turner
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other 
> resources as
> > they are often being updated.
> > 
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
> > 
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> wish to
> > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting 
> this same
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> > them short.
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> flames.
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> > membership without notice.
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> B&W
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and
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THE 
> PRINT
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AND
> > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE 
> LIABLE TO YOU
> > FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR 
> EXEMPLARY
> > DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF 
PROFITS,
> > GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF 
> THE  "OWNER" AND
> > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN 
ADVISED 

> OF THE
> > POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE 
> INABILITY
> > TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED 
> ACCESS TO OR
> > ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR 
> CONDUCT OF ANY
> > THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY 
> OTHER
> > MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP.
> > 
> > Yahoo! Groups Links

Did that fix it for you? The thin-lines/microbanding just came back
last night on my 1270.. wasted 2 13x19 prints already. 

Slightly over-filled carts? That's strange. My old cart is close to
finish when that happened last night so I replaced it with a new one.
And it is still there. I switched with a OEM 007 cart and it's working
fine. But once switched back to the new UT2 black cart it's back. (And
I did cleaning cycles and purge prints).

Anyway, I gave up last night and did a tiny test print this morning
before heading to work. It seems to be working ok again.. (But then it
could work fine for half a 13x19 and the 2nd half is bad).

I am getting quite sick of the problems. Would a UT2 CIS work better
or worse? Or should I just dump the setup to get a 2200 and stay with
Epson ink and print with QTR or BlackOnly.. 

Michael

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "jturner4210626"
<JTurner421@a...> wrote:

> 
> Quick follow up.  I e-mailed tech support at MIS and this was their 
> reply:
> 
> 
> This problem can be caused by a slightly over filled cartridge. It 
> does not pose a problem and can usually be cleared by running three 
> cleaning cycles. You may repeat the process if necessary and you may 
> also print our purgeblack page to prevent the system from trying to 
> spray extra ink. 
>  
> It wiill clear up by the time you have finished these steps. 
>  
> You down load our purge files at this link....
> http://www.inksupply.info/?_a=downloads

You could end up with similar issues with Epson inks also. Did you make sure that you 
looked carefully up there around the head and paper feed area to see if there was any ink 
build up there that is transfering to the paper? I've had this issue with Epson inks when 
black ink got built up in the printer and when the paper rubbed across it it transfered to 
the media. You might need a strong light to look up in there.

john

> I am getting quite sick of the problems. Would a UT2 CIS work better
> or worse? Or should I just dump the setup to get a 2200 and stay with
> Epson ink and print with QTR or BlackOnly.. 
> 
> Michael
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "jturner4210626"
> <JTurner421@a...> wrote:
> > 
> > Quick follow up.  I e-mailed tech support at MIS and this was their 
> > reply:
> > 
> > 
> > This problem can be caused by a slightly over filled cartridge. It 
> > does not pose a problem and can usually be cleared by running three 
> > cleaning cycles. You may repeat the process if necessary and you may 
> > also print our purgeblack page to prevent the system from trying to 
> > spray extra ink. 
> >  
> > It wiill clear up by the time you have finished these steps. 
> >  
> > You down load our purge files at this link....
> > http://www.inksupply.info/?_a=downloads

I have had the very same problem. After listening to the techies at Epson through enumerous cleaning cycles, head cleaning, new cartridges etc., I took it to an Epson certified repair facility and they diagnosed that it was a motherboard problem. That would have required an expense that was very close to what a new 1280 would cost. So I have been using the 1280 solely for text printing and a 7600 for printed images.

Don't be fooled by the those equally spaced lines being printed across the page which will sometimes not be there. You will only be frustrated when you think you have the problem fixed plus you will be spending a great deal of money on paper and ink. 

Peter

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jerry in Houston 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 1:41 PM
  Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Epson 1280 Thin Black Lines on Printout



  I have had this problem, on and off, with my 1280 with
  the MIS CIS UT2 inkset.  For the first six months it
  was great and I was finally getting the kind of prints
  I had been looking for.  Then it started putting those
  narrow black/grey lines in a print.  I tried the clean
  cycles and the PURGE6 images from CIS.  Sometimes it
  actually got worse.  Right now, if I print at 360dpi
  it will print without the lines, but if I try 720 or
  1440 the lines are back.  I am currently working
  around the problem by printing in BO as I get no lines
  there.

  I have read somewhere that this is caused by a failure
  in the PC board inside the printhead which results in
  one or more nozzles being always on and not being
  controlled by the driver.  If true, it means the head
  is toast and the printer will have to be replaced. As
  a last effort I am going to remove the CIS and replace
  with the OEM inkset and see if this fixes the
  problem..... we shall see.

  Jerry in Houston



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Michael..I haven't tried it yet.  When I switched back the inks from 
my swap test the problem abated although I'm sure it will come back.  
I hope to not give up on it since I also have a 2200 and used QTR 
with both setups and prefer the UT2 printouts vs the UC inks.

John..Not sure it's an ink buildup problem.  It doesn't manifest on 
the printout that way.  It looks like more of a misfiring nozzle than 
anything.  The lines are defined.  I've had the smear problems you 
described with OEM inks and they presented differently.


--Joel


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean" 
<deanwork2003@y...> wrote:
> 
> You could end up with similar issues with Epson inks also. Did you 
make sure that you 
> looked carefully up there around the head and paper feed area to 
see if there was any ink 
> build up there that is transfering to the paper? I've had this 
issue with Epson inks when 
> black ink got built up in the printer and when the paper rubbed 
across it it transfered to 
> the media. You might need a strong light to look up in there.
> 
> john
> 
> 
> > I am getting quite sick of the problems. Would a UT2 CIS work 
better
> > or worse? Or should I just dump the setup to get a 2200 and stay 
with
> > Epson ink and print with QTR or BlackOnly.. 
> > 
> > Michael
> > 
> > --- In 
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "jturner4210626"
> > <JTurner421@a...> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Quick follow up.  I e-mailed tech support at MIS and this was 
their 
> > > reply:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > This problem can be caused by a slightly over filled cartridge. 
It 
> > > does not pose a problem and can usually be cleared by running 
three 
> > > cleaning cycles. You may repeat the process if necessary and 
you may 
> > > also print our purgeblack page to prevent the system from 
trying to 

> > > spray extra ink. 
> > >  
> > > It wiill clear up by the time you have finished these steps. 
> > >  
> > > You down load our purge files at this link....
> > > http://www.inksupply.info/?_a=downloads