Digital BW, The Print

Carl wrote:
  I'm not planning on anything bigger than 8 by 10.  The 890 is abt $200 more
  than the 890.  That's about 57 Guinesses (my non-inflationary currency in
  Chicago, USA).  

  Carl
  I have been using the Epson 880 for about a month or so now. I am using the prefilled MIS VM inks and getting great results. The Epson 880 cartridges do not have "chips" on them so it is very easy to use the carts from MIS. I'm sure the 880 will work fine for B&W. I have never used color inks in this printer and probably won't, so I'm not sure how color prints will look but the B&W ones look great.
  However, your results may vary depending on how many of those Guinness's you consume before printing. Bottoms up !!!
  Good luck
  Don


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Don,

Thanks.  What software are you using?  I'm starting from scratch -- can you tell me all that I need?  I have PC's with tons of memory & speed, so that should not be a constraint (until tomorrow!)

Cheers,

Carl

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Don Rooney 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 2:07 PM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Epson 880 vs 890


  Carl wrote:
    I'm not planning on anything bigger than 8 by 10.  The 890 is abt $200 more
    than the 890.  That's about 57 Guinesses (my non-inflationary currency in
    Chicago, USA).  

    Carl
    I have been using the Epson 880 for about a month or so now. I am using the prefilled MIS VM inks and getting great results. The Epson 880 cartridges do not have "chips" on them so it is very easy to use the carts from MIS. I'm sure the 880 will work fine for B&W. I have never used color inks in this printer and probably won't, so I'm not sure how color prints will look but the B&W ones look great.
    However, your results may vary depending on how many of those Guinness's you consume before printing. Bottoms up !!!
    Good luck
    Don



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Carl

  >Thanks.  What software are you using? 
  Carl -- I use Photoshop 6.0 (on PC)
  and I just use the print drivers that come with the Epson 880. I use "custom" menu on Epson printer setup software, select paper ( I use Epson Matte Heavyweight) set dpi to "Photo 1440" Gamma to "1.8". I don't adjust sliders until I review first print.

  >I'm starting from scratch -- can you tell me all that I need?  
  Go to MIS site (inksupply .com) http://www.inksupply.com/index.cfm?source=html/quadcart.html#880      I use the Variable Mix set but you may want to look around that site and pick a different ink set according to your own tastes. Which ever ink set you decide on you will need to order 2 cartridges (one for black, one for "color" spots in the printer)
  You may also want to read the following  http://www.inksupply.com/index.cfm?source=html/quadtone.html  and then visit Paul Roark's site.
  The rest is experimenting.
  Good Luck
  Don 



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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Don Rooney <donr@r...> 
>The Epson 880 cartridges do not have "chips" on them so it is very 
easy to use the carts from MIS.

I also have the 880. I believe you are incorrect on saying that 
there's no chip. I'll have a further check on this. However MIS 
states on their website that "Where applicable, chips are included on 
the cartridge." At the InkJetMall.com they have B/W inksets for Epson 
but not for the 880. Their stock only is for non-chipped cartridges.

Richard

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Don Rooney <donr@r...> 
wrote:
>The Epson 880 cartridges do not have "chips" on them so it is very 
easy to use the carts from MIS.

[Note this may be a copy of a reply sent earlier...apologies if so]

I believe you are incorrect in saying that the 880 has no chip. I 
have this printer and I seem to remember seeing a FAQ on this model 
at Epson. Anyway the Ink Supply website states..."Where applicable, 
chips are included on the cartridge."

Richard

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "richard_h_weiner" 
<rweiner@p...> wrote:
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Don Rooney <donr@r...> 
> >The Epson 880 cartridges do not have "chips" on them so it is very 
> easy to use the carts from MIS.
> 
> I also have the 880. I believe you are incorrect on saying that 
> there's no chip. I'll have a further check on this

Well I did check (phoned Tech Support at Epson Canada [must be in 
Ontario?...905 area code]) and their man there told me the 880 
cartridge is without a chip so Don is right and I stand corrected. 
Now I've got to go to InkJetMall and tell them that they have it 
wrong...unless this is a US vs. Canada thing where 'South of the 
Border' does have a chip and we don't?...[and if I were paranoid I'd 
say that the US wants/needs a sense of security, ergo: US carts have 
chips...[g]).

Richard

There is definitely no chip on the 880 cart.  I have a cart and an 880 
right in front of me.

My Epson supplier told me that the 880 is virtually the same printer as the 
1160, except that it will only print 8.5 X 11.  I have an 880 and I also 
print a lot of G4 with an 1160 and I can tell you they even sound the 
same.  The pre-print cleaning procedure sounds identical, as does normal 
printing. They can even use each other's printer drivers.

The 880's an excellent photo printer for those who pine for the 
1160.  Cheap, too.  I paid $65 for mine at Ubid.

Peter McLennan