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Proposition for a module A160-2

2010-02-14 by achtung_999

Hello,

I find myself using the A163 VC Divider to do uneven clock divisions.
Isn't it time to get an A160-2 that does the uneven divisions?
Or is this a strange and unpopular idea?

greetz,

Ernst


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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Proposition for a module A160-2

2010-02-14 by Bakis Sirros

hi Ernst,

i totally agree that the Doepfer modular needs a pulse divider with uneven (/3/5/7) divisions, for sure.

thanks,
Bakis.


Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist

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From: achtung_999 <heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com>
Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Proposition for a module A160-2
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 4:52 PM







 



  


    
      
      
      Hello,



I find myself using the A163 VC Divider to do uneven clock divisions.

Isn't it time to get an A160-2 that does the uneven divisions?

Or is this a strange and unpopular idea?



greetz,



Ernst



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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Proposition for a module A160-2

2010-02-14 by Florian Anwander

Hi Ernst

> 
> I find myself using the A163 VC Divider to do uneven clock divisions.
> Isn't it time to get an A160-2 that does the uneven divisions?
> Or is this a strange and unpopular idea?
definitely agreed. And I want also a binary down counter (opposed to the 
existing 160, which counts up).

Florian

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Proposition for a module A160-2

2010-02-14 by achtung_999

AH okay nice to know I'm not the only one.
Maybe 3/5/7/9 is already sufficient.
More is also welcomed ;-)
I know that it is a bit more of a hassle to do than the even divisions.
But I would be very happy to spend my money on an uneven divider!

Ernst




On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com>wrote:

>
>
> hi Ernst,
>
> i totally agree that the Doepfer modular needs a pulse divider with uneven
> (/3/5/7) divisions, for sure.
>
>
> thanks,
> Bakis.
>
> Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
>
> [Doepfer_a100] group owner
>
> www. parallel - worlds - music. com
>
> www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
>
> www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
>
> www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
>
> www. DiN. org. uk
>
> www. musicamaximamagnetica. com
>
> www. vu-us. com
>
> www. shimarecords. co. uk
>
> --- On Sun, 2/14/10, achtung_999 <heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com<heinrich.himmelwasser%40gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> From: achtung_999 <heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com<heinrich.himmelwasser%40gmail.com>
> >
> Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Proposition for a module A160-2
>
> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 4:52 PM
>
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I find myself using the A163 VC Divider to do uneven clock divisions.
>
> Isn't it time to get an A160-2 that does the uneven divisions?
>
> Or is this a strange and unpopular idea?
>
> greetz,
>
> Ernst
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Proposition for a module A160-2

2010-02-14 by james.husted@mac.com

It seems to me that this would not be a hard circuit to make. Clock a 4017 or equiv. and put a rotary switch connecting the 10 output steps to the reset. Take that signal and use it as an output. Then you can dial any division you want from 1:1 to 1/10th of the clock in. You won't have much control over the pulse width but some added circuitry may help there.
-James
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On Feb 14, 2010, at 2:25 PM, achtung_999 wrote:

> AH okay nice to know I'm not the only one.
> Maybe 3/5/7/9 is already sufficient.
> More is also welcomed ;-)
> I know that it is a bit more of a hassle to do than the even divisions.
> But I would be very happy to spend my money on an uneven divider!
> 
> Ernst
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com>wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> hi Ernst,
>> 
>> i totally agree that the Doepfer modular needs a pulse divider with uneven
>> (/3/5/7) divisions, for sure.
>> 
>> 
>> thanks,
>> Bakis.
>> 
>> Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
>> 
>> [Doepfer_a100] group owner
>> 
>> www. parallel - worlds - music. com
>> 
>> www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
>> 
>> www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
>> 
>> www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
>> 
>> www. DiN. org. uk
>> 
>> www. musicamaximamagnetica. com
>> 
>> www. vu-us. com
>> 
>> www. shimarecords. co. uk
>> 
>> --- On Sun, 2/14/10, achtung_999 <heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com<heinrich.himmelwasser%40gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> From: achtung_999 <heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com<heinrich.himmelwasser%40gmail.com>
>>> 
>> Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Proposition for a module A160-2
>> 
>> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
>> Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 4:52 PM
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I find myself using the A163 VC Divider to do uneven clock divisions.
>> 
>> Isn't it time to get an A160-2 that does the uneven divisions?
>> 
>> Or is this a strange and unpopular idea?
>> 
>> greetz,
>> 
>> Ernst
>> 
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Re: Proposition for a module A160-2

2010-02-14 by richyho@btopenworld.com

Um, hasn't this (or similar) already been done successfully by 4ms? 



--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, achtung_999 <heinrich.himmelwasser@...> wrote:
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>
> That sounds promising James.. thanks.
> Maybe Dieter will like the idea ;-)
> 
> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 11:57 PM, <james.husted@...> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > It seems to me that this would not be a hard circuit to make. Clock a 4017
> > or equiv. and put a rotary switch connecting the 10 output steps to the
> > reset. Take that signal and use it as an output. Then you can dial any
> > division you want from 1:1 to 1/10th of the clock in. You won't have much
> > control over the pulse width but some added circuitry may help there.
> > -James
> >
> >
> > On Feb 14, 2010, at 2:25 PM, achtung_999 wrote:
> >
> > > AH okay nice to know I'm not the only one.
> > > Maybe 3/5/7/9 is already sufficient.
> > > More is also welcomed ;-)
> > > I know that it is a bit more of a hassle to do than the even divisions.
> > > But I would be very happy to spend my money on an uneven divider!
> > >
> > > Ernst
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Bakis Sirros <
> > synth_freak_2000@... <synth_freak_2000%40yahoo.com>>wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> hi Ernst,
> > >>
> > >> i totally agree that the Doepfer modular needs a pulse divider with
> > uneven
> > >> (/3/5/7) divisions, for sure.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> thanks,
> > >> Bakis.
> > >>
> > >> Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
> > >>
> > >> [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> > >>
> > >> www. parallel - worlds - music. com
> > >>
> > >> www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
> > >>
> > >> www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
> > >>
> > >> www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
> > >>
> > >> www. DiN. org. uk
> > >>
> > >> www. musicamaximamagnetica. com
> > >>
> > >> www. vu-us. com
> > >>
> > >> www. shimarecords. co. uk
> > >>
> > >> --- On Sun, 2/14/10, achtung_999 <heinrich.himmelwasser@...<heinrich.himmelwasser%40gmail.com>
> > <heinrich.himmelwasser%40gmail.com>>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> From: achtung_999 <heinrich.himmelwasser@...<heinrich.himmelwasser%40gmail.com>
> > <heinrich.himmelwasser%40gmail.com>
> >
> > >>>
> > >> Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Proposition for a module A160-2
> > >>
> > >> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com><Doepfer_a100%
> > 40yahoogroups.com>
> >
> > >> Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 4:52 PM
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Hello,
> > >>
> > >> I find myself using the A163 VC Divider to do uneven clock divisions.
> > >>
> > >> Isn't it time to get an A160-2 that does the uneven divisions?
> > >>
> > >> Or is this a strange and unpopular idea?
> > >>
> > >> greetz,
> > >>
> > >> Ernst
> > >>
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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Proposition for a module A160-2

2010-02-14 by achtung_999

That sounds promising James.. thanks.
Maybe Dieter will like the idea ;-)

On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 11:57 PM, <james.husted@mac.com> wrote:

>
>
> It seems to me that this would not be a hard circuit to make. Clock a 4017
> or equiv. and put a rotary switch connecting the 10 output steps to the
> reset. Take that signal and use it as an output. Then you can dial any
> division you want from 1:1 to 1/10th of the clock in. You won't have much
> control over the pulse width but some added circuitry may help there.
> -James
>
>
> On Feb 14, 2010, at 2:25 PM, achtung_999 wrote:
>
> > AH okay nice to know I'm not the only one.
> > Maybe 3/5/7/9 is already sufficient.
> > More is also welcomed ;-)
> > I know that it is a bit more of a hassle to do than the even divisions.
> > But I would be very happy to spend my money on an uneven divider!
> >
> > Ernst
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Bakis Sirros <
> synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com <synth_freak_2000%40yahoo.com>>wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> hi Ernst,
> >>
> >> i totally agree that the Doepfer modular needs a pulse divider with
> uneven
> >> (/3/5/7) divisions, for sure.
> >>
> >>
> >> thanks,
> >> Bakis.
> >>
> >> Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
> >>
> >> [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> >>
> >> www. parallel - worlds - music. com
> >>
> >> www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
> >>
> >> www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
> >>
> >> www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
> >>
> >> www. DiN. org. uk
> >>
> >> www. musicamaximamagnetica. com
> >>
> >> www. vu-us. com
> >>
> >> www. shimarecords. co. uk
> >>
> >> --- On Sun, 2/14/10, achtung_999 <heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com<heinrich.himmelwasser%40gmail.com>
> <heinrich.himmelwasser%40gmail.com>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> From: achtung_999 <heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com<heinrich.himmelwasser%40gmail.com>
> <heinrich.himmelwasser%40gmail.com>
>
> >>>
> >> Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Proposition for a module A160-2
> >>
> >> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com><Doepfer_a100%
> 40yahoogroups.com>
>
> >> Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 4:52 PM
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I find myself using the A163 VC Divider to do uneven clock divisions.
> >>
> >> Isn't it time to get an A160-2 that does the uneven divisions?
> >>
> >> Or is this a strange and unpopular idea?
> >>
> >> greetz,
> >>
> >> Ernst
> >>
> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>
> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Proposition for a module A160-2

2010-02-15 by Florian Anwander

Hello

The A161 is the addon module which is intended to achieve this (the 161 
contains a 4017!)

But setting the 161 to uneven would cause the even dividers of the A160 
to reset on uneven values. What I want is a module which sends parallel 
even and uneven divider ratios (1/2/3/4/5/6/8/9). You can do this with 8 
  4017, but it should be easier with a single PIC.

Florian


achtung_999 wrote:
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> That sounds promising James.. thanks.
> Maybe Dieter will like the idea ;-)
> 
> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 11:57 PM, <james.husted@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>>
>>It seems to me that this would not be a hard circuit to make. Clock a 4017
>>or equiv. and put a rotary switch connecting the 10 output steps to the
>>reset. Take that signal and use it as an output. Then you can dial any
>>division you want from 1:1 to 1/10th of the clock in. You won't have much
>>control over the pulse width but some added circuitry may help there.
>>-James
>>
>>
>>On Feb 14, 2010, at 2:25 PM, achtung_999 wrote:
>>
>>
>>>AH okay nice to know I'm not the only one.
>>>Maybe 3/5/7/9 is already sufficient.
>>>More is also welcomed ;-)
>>>I know that it is a bit more of a hassle to do than the even divisions.
>>>But I would be very happy to spend my money on an uneven divider!
>>>
>>>Ernst
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Bakis Sirros <
>>
>>synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com <synth_freak_2000%40yahoo.com>>wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>>hi Ernst,
>>>>
>>>>i totally agree that the Doepfer modular needs a pulse divider with
>>
>>uneven
>>
>>>>(/3/5/7) divisions, for sure.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>thanks,
>>>>Bakis.
>>>>
>>>>Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
>>>>
>>>>[Doepfer_a100] group owner
>>>>
>>>>www. parallel - worlds - music. com
>>>>
>>>>www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
>>>>
>>>>www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
>>>>
>>>>www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
>>>>
>>>>www. DiN. org. uk
>>>>
>>>>www. musicamaximamagnetica. com
>>>>
>>>>www. vu-us. com
>>>>
>>>>www. shimarecords. co. uk
>>>>
>>>>--- On Sun, 2/14/10, achtung_999 <heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com<heinrich.himmelwasser%40gmail.com>
>>
>><heinrich.himmelwasser%40gmail.com>>
>>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>From: achtung_999 <heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com<heinrich.himmelwasser%40gmail.com>
>>
>><heinrich.himmelwasser%40gmail.com>
>>
>>>>Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Proposition for a module A160-2
>>>>
>>>>To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com><Doepfer_a100%
>>
>>40yahoogroups.com>
>>
>>>>Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 4:52 PM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hello,
>>>>
>>>>I find myself using the A163 VC Divider to do uneven clock divisions.
>>>>
>>>>Isn't it time to get an A160-2 that does the uneven divisions?
>>>>
>>>>Or is this a strange and unpopular idea?
>>>>
>>>>greetz,
>>>>
>>>>Ernst
>>>>
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AW: [Doepfer_a100] Proposition for a module A160-2

2010-02-15 by yahoo@doepfer.de

> AH okay nice to know I'm not the only one.
> Maybe 3/5/7/9 is already sufficient.
> More is also welcomed ;-)
> I know that it is a bit more of a hassle to do than the even divisions.
> But I would be very happy to spend my money on an uneven divider!
>
> Ernst

It's nothing but a fast microcontroller (e.g. a PIC). Most of the board will
be the in/output stuff (buffers, voltage shifters, protection circuits, LED
display required for each in/output). If there are sufficient inquiries: no
problem for us. Sounds like a one day job for Christian an me. I'd suggest a
poll for the A-160-2.

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

Re: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Proposition for a module A160-2

2010-02-15 by Bakis Sirros

ok, i'll make a poll.

but should i suggest a module with only uneven divisions(/3/5/7/9), or with both even and uneven (/1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8) ?

my opinion is that one module with both even and uneven divisions would be better (as Florian suggested)!

let me know Dieter.

thanks,
Bakis.


Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist

[Doepfer_a100] group owner

www. parallel - worlds - music. com

www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic

www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic

www. myspace. com/ memorygeist

www. DiN. org. uk

www. musicamaximamagnetica. com

www. vu-us. com

www. shimarecords. co. uk

--- On Mon, 2/15/10, yahoo@doepfer.de <yahoo@doepfer.de> wrote:
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Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Proposition for a module A160-2
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, February 15, 2010, 11:25 AM







 



  


    
      
      
      > AH okay nice to know I'm not the only one.

> Maybe 3/5/7/9 is already sufficient.

> More is also welcomed ;-)

> I know that it is a bit more of a hassle to do than the even divisions.

> But I would be very happy to spend my money on an uneven divider!

>

> Ernst



It's nothing but a fast microcontroller (e.g. a PIC). Most of the board will

be the in/output stuff (buffers, voltage shifters, protection circuits, LED

display required for each in/output). If there are sufficient inquiries: no

problem for us. Sounds like a one day job for Christian an me. I'd suggest a

poll for the A-160-2.



Best wishes

Dieter Doepfer





    
     

    
    


 



  






      

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AW: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Proposition for a module A160-2

2010-02-15 by yahoo@doepfer.de

> ok, i'll make a poll.
> 
> but should i suggest a module with only uneven 
> divisions(/3/5/7/9), or with both even and uneven (/1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8) ?
> 
> my opinion is that one module with both even and uneven divisions 
> would be better (as Florian suggested)!
> 
> let me know Dieter.
> 
> thanks,
> Bakis.

It depends upon the users. If we use a PIC we can make all divisions you want: e.g. 3/5/6/7/9/10 ... (i.e. all not available from A-160) or 3/5/7/9/11... (i.e. all uneven) oder 2/3/4/5/6/7.... You should include in the poll different versions of divisions.

Best wishes
Dieter

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Proposition for a module A160-2

2010-02-15 by achtung_999

Hello,

I had never heard of 4ms, started searching the web and found this:
http://4mspedals.com/rcd.php
This is not the same idea.  It is more elaborate. Very interesting module.
But @ $179 quite pricey. And it does a lot more than what I was thinking of.

I am all for the poll!

Greetz

Ernst



On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 12:57 AM, richyho@btopenworld.com <
richyho@btopenworld.com> wrote:

>
>
> Um, hasn't this (or similar) already been done successfully by 4ms?
>
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>,
> achtung_999 <heinrich.himmelwasser@...> wrote:
> >
> > That sounds promising James.. thanks.
> > Maybe Dieter will like the idea ;-)
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 11:57 PM, <james.husted@...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > It seems to me that this would not be a hard circuit to make. Clock a
> 4017
> > > or equiv. and put a rotary switch connecting the 10 output steps to the
> > > reset. Take that signal and use it as an output. Then you can dial any
> > > division you want from 1:1 to 1/10th of the clock in. You won't have
> much
> > > control over the pulse width but some added circuitry may help there.
> > > -James
> > >
> > >
> > > On Feb 14, 2010, at 2:25 PM, achtung_999 wrote:
> > >
> > > > AH okay nice to know I'm not the only one.
> > > > Maybe 3/5/7/9 is already sufficient.
> > > > More is also welcomed ;-)
> > > > I know that it is a bit more of a hassle to do than the even
> divisions.
> > > > But I would be very happy to spend my money on an uneven divider!
> > > >
> > > > Ernst
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Bakis Sirros <
> > > synth_freak_2000@... <synth_freak_2000%40yahoo.com>>wrote:
>
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> hi Ernst,
> > > >>
> > > >> i totally agree that the Doepfer modular needs a pulse divider with
> > > uneven
> > > >> (/3/5/7) divisions, for sure.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> thanks,
> > > >> Bakis.
> > > >>
> > > >> Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
> > > >>
> > > >> [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> > > >>
> > > >> www. parallel - worlds - music. com
> > > >>
> > > >> www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
> > > >>
> > > >> www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
> > > >>
> > > >> www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
> > > >>
> > > >> www. DiN. org. uk
> > > >>
> > > >> www. musicamaximamagnetica. com
> > > >>
> > > >> www. vu-us. com
> > > >>
> > > >> www. shimarecords. co. uk
> > > >>
> > > >> --- On Sun, 2/14/10, achtung_999 <heinrich.himmelwasser@
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> > > >> I find myself using the A163 VC Divider to do uneven clock
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> > > >> Isn't it time to get an A160-2 that does the uneven divisions?
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Re: Proposition for a module A160-2

2010-02-15 by ysinollaysi

The lack of the uneven divisions is the main reason that I don't have 160/161 combo. I _will_ buy A-160-2 (and 160 of course) if it's reasonably priced as I believe it will be.

- t/A/M

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> > AH okay nice to know I'm not the only one.
> > Maybe 3/5/7/9 is already sufficient.
> > More is also welcomed ;-)
> > I know that it is a bit more of a hassle to do than the even divisions.
> > But I would be very happy to spend my money on an uneven divider!
> >
> > Ernst
> 
> It's nothing but a fast microcontroller (e.g. a PIC). Most of the board will
> be the in/output stuff (buffers, voltage shifters, protection circuits, LED
> display required for each in/output). If there are sufficient inquiries: no
> problem for us. Sounds like a one day job for Christian an me. I'd suggest a
> poll for the A-160-2.
> 
> Best wishes
> Dieter Doepfer
>

Re: AW: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Proposition for a module A160-2

2010-02-15 by Bakis Sirros

ok, i'll include two different versions of dividers in the poll:
one with all divisions /2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9 (8 outputs), one with only odd (plus the /6 division that is not available in the a160) divisions /3/5/6/7/9/11/13/15 (8 outputs again).

i'll create the poll in a few hours.

thanks,
Bakis.




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      > ok, i'll make a poll.

> 

> but should i suggest a module with only uneven 

> divisions(/3/ 5/7/9), or with both even and uneven (/1/2/3/4/5/ 6/7/8) ?

> 

> my opinion is that one module with both even and uneven divisions 

> would be better (as Florian suggested)!

> 

> let me know Dieter.

> 

> thanks,

> Bakis.



It depends upon the users. If we use a PIC we can make all divisions you want: e.g. 3/5/6/7/9/10 ... (i.e. all not available from A-160) or 3/5/7/9/11.. . (i.e. all uneven) oder 2/3/4/5/6/7. ... You should include in the poll different versions of divisions.



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Re: Proposition for a module A160-2

2010-02-16 by gothicpunk82

Howdy, I've been lurking around for a while and decided to partake in the discussion.

This is something I was wondering about the proposed A-160-2. If this is made, will it work like a 160/161 combo? So like a 160-2/161 combo? I currently do not have the 160/161, however, plan on purchasing one in the near future, but is there the possibility to have these daisy chain in a manor such that you could have a 160/160-2/161. I figure that the current modules have their single link between each other and would require rework to account for another module, but perhaps the 160-2, aside from being stand alone, could possibly connect together? 

I'm not sure if I am explaining this well enough, so let me try an example. The 160 has clock in and reset, the 160-2 would also have clock an reset. Could there be a way to link the two together to essentially normal the clock in and resets so you could use them together? That way the internal connection from the 160 to 161 could go from the 160 to 160-2 to 161. If someone were to wish for only odd clock division, the 160-2 could stand alone with or without the 160 or 161.

If this were the case, there would be no need for a module that did all clock divisions since half of them are already available. It would seem silly to remake what already exists for this purpose. 

Anyhow, I was just curious.

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> 
> - t/A/M
>

RE: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Proposition for a module A160-2

2010-02-16 by david.salter@thomsonreuters.com

A good question Gothicpunk.
 
Do I need a second 161 to go with the proposed 160-2 or can I daisy
chain off my existing 161 and have the even divisions on the 160 and odd
on 160-2?
 
David
 
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Howdy, I've been lurking around for a while and decided to partake in
the discussion.

This is something I was wondering about the proposed A-160-2. If this is
made, will it work like a 160/161 combo? So like a 160-2/161 combo? I
currently do not have the 160/161, however, plan on purchasing one in
the near future, but is there the possibility to have these daisy chain
in a manor such that you could have a 160/160-2/161. I figure that the
current modules have their single link between each other and would
require rework to account for another module, but perhaps the 160-2,
aside from being stand alone, could possibly connect together? 

I'm not sure if I am explaining this well enough, so let me try an
example. The 160 has clock in and reset, the 160-2 would also have clock
an reset. Could there be a way to link the two together to essentially
normal the clock in and resets so you could use them together? That way
the internal connection from the 160 to 161 could go from the 160 to
160-2 to 161. If someone were to wish for only odd clock division, the
160-2 could stand alone with or without the 160 or 161.

If this were the case, there would be no need for a module that did all
clock divisions since half of them are already available. It would seem
silly to remake what already exists for this purpose. 

Anyhow, I was just curious.

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> The lack of the uneven divisions is the main reason that I don't have
160/161 combo. I _will_ buy A-160-2 (and 160 of course) if it's
reasonably priced as I believe it will be.
> 
> - t/A/M
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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Proposition for a module A160-2

2010-02-16 by achtung_999

I was waiting for this to pop up when I put out the proposition..
I personally think that it would be fun if it could hook up to the A161 like
the original A160.
Although it would, for me at least, not be a great thing if it would be
omitted...



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>
> A good question Gothicpunk.
>
> Do I need a second 161 to go with the proposed 160-2 or can I daisy
> chain off my existing 161 and have the even divisions on the 160 and odd
> on 160-2?
>
> David
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> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Proposition for a module A160-2
>
>
> Howdy, I've been lurking around for a while and decided to partake in
> the discussion.
>
> This is something I was wondering about the proposed A-160-2. If this is
> made, will it work like a 160/161 combo? So like a 160-2/161 combo? I
> currently do not have the 160/161, however, plan on purchasing one in
> the near future, but is there the possibility to have these daisy chain
> in a manor such that you could have a 160/160-2/161. I figure that the
> current modules have their single link between each other and would
> require rework to account for another module, but perhaps the 160-2,
> aside from being stand alone, could possibly connect together?
>
> I'm not sure if I am explaining this well enough, so let me try an
> example. The 160 has clock in and reset, the 160-2 would also have clock
> an reset. Could there be a way to link the two together to essentially
> normal the clock in and resets so you could use them together? That way
> the internal connection from the 160 to 161 could go from the 160 to
> 160-2 to 161. If someone were to wish for only odd clock division, the
> 160-2 could stand alone with or without the 160 or 161.
>
> If this were the case, there would be no need for a module that did all
> clock divisions since half of them are already available. It would seem
> silly to remake what already exists for this purpose.
>
> Anyhow, I was just curious.
>
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> <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> , "ysinollaysi"
>
> <ysinollaysi@...> wrote:
> >
> > The lack of the uneven divisions is the main reason that I don't have
> 160/161 combo. I _will_ buy A-160-2 (and 160 of course) if it's
> reasonably priced as I believe it will be.
> >
> > - t/A/M
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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Proposition for a module A160-2

2010-02-16 by Bakis Sirros

what would be the benefit of this connection other than saving two patchcables (meaning the normaling of clocks and resets inputs of a160 and 160-2)?

i do not see any major benefit from this feature...


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      Howdy, I've been lurking around for a while and decided to partake in the discussion.



This is something I was wondering about the proposed A-160-2. If this is made, will it work like a 160/161 combo? So like a 160-2/161 combo? I currently do not have the 160/161, however, plan on purchasing one in the near future, but is there the possibility to have these daisy chain in a manor such that you could have a 160/160-2/161. I figure that the current modules have their single link between each other and would require rework to account for another module, but perhaps the 160-2, aside from being stand alone, could possibly connect together? 



I'm not sure if I am explaining this well enough, so let me try an example. The 160 has clock in and reset, the 160-2 would also have clock an reset. Could there be a way to link the two together to essentially normal the clock in and resets so you could use them together? That way the internal connection from the 160 to 161 could go from the 160 to 160-2 to 161. If someone were to wish for only odd clock division, the 160-2 could stand alone with or without the 160 or 161.



If this were the case, there would be no need for a module that did all clock divisions since half of them are already available. It would seem silly to remake what already exists for this purpose. 



Anyhow, I was just curious.



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> The lack of the uneven divisions is the main reason that I don't have 160/161 combo. I _will_ buy A-160-2 (and 160 of course) if it's reasonably priced as I believe it will be.

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Proposition for a module A160-2

2010-02-16 by achtung_999

> i do not see any major benefit from this feature...
>
>

Well that you could choose to use the A161 in combination with either the
A160 or the A160-2. Meaning that that people would not be obliged to buy the
A160 if they only want the A160-2 and the A161.
That could be a selling point Bakis!


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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Proposition for a module A160-2

2010-02-16 by Bakis Sirros

yes, ok, you are right about this.

but, who would want Only the a160-2 in his modular (especially if it does Only odd divisions)? most users would want the a160 and a160-2 in their systems. (unless the a160-2 will be manufactured to make both even and odd divisions...)

so, i guess the connection capability between the a161 and a160-2 would have real meaning only if the version of a160-2 with both EVEN and ODD divisions would be finally manufactured...

anyway, Dieter will decide...


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Well that you could choose to use the A161 in combination with either the

A160 or the A160-2. Meaning that that people would not be obliged to buy the

A160 if they only want the A160-2 and the A161.

That could be a selling point Bakis!



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