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2001-04-05 by C. Whitten
> I suspect it will take him a good six months to a year > to > be able to get his turn around times back to where they were Six months to a year!!! >Rumor > has it that Grant and Rex may be doing some joint projects and > merging > some of their manufacturing facilities. Now you
2001-04-05 by C. Whitten
> After > endlessly obsessing about which modules on which panel and coughing up > the 50% down, you could expect to get your stuff in a couple months. Those really were the days. I wish it was so now. That's really my point, at a time when there is unprecedented interest in modu
2001-04-05 by maf@mcs.net
I'll just throw my two cents in, about the state of STS at this time. Rex just got through moving to the Milwaukee area. This is a very disruptive event for a small company (particularly a manufacturing company that does most of it's work by hand). I know that Rex is trying to es
2001-04-05 by John Papiewski
It used to be that you could call STS at just about any time and find someone there. If it was Rex you'd be on the horn for an hour and a half, but only if he was busy. Otherwise, three hours min. After endlessly obsessing about which modules on which panel and coughing up the 50
2001-04-05 by norman fay
In message chris@... >, C. Whitten chris@... > writes >It seems (although it hasn't been confirmed) that there is a long waiting >list for new panels. I saw a report of nearly six months for a custom panel. >I've never really understood whether the shop panels are still being put
2001-04-05 by r. kleckner
CW says: >> It seems (although it hasn't been confirmed) that there is a long waiting list for new panels. >> I can only talk about my specific situation, but as of Dec 2000 the wait was 24+ weeks for 'shop'work. This approximation is in writing. My *understanding* was that they
2001-04-05 by C. Whitten
> The > ideal hilbert transform is non-causal This thread is starting to sound like the old 'plumbers joke' by Steve Martin (gangly wrench etc..), but seriously, lots of interesting information, most of which I didn't understand. I thought it might be time to have a gentle debate
2001-04-04 by jhaible@t-online.de
> C'mon guys! There's been loads of 'how does a freq shifter work' > stuff on other boards - lets be a bit more Serge specific. 2 of us on > this list have asked about the Compressor on the Serge FS with no > explanation. > > What is it there for? What type of compressor is it??
2001-04-04 by jhaible@t-online.de
> I believe the external carrier version of the Serge FS > is more expensive because a second PDN is needed in > order to generate a quadrature signal from the single > carrier input signal. One thing I always wondered about the external carrier version is the lowest possible fre
2001-04-04 by (Kyle Jarger)
I haven't seen this little bt of info posted about freq shifters yet...that one of the key things that a frequency shifter does is to change the timbre of a signal by changing the relative frequencies of their harmonics... say you have a 500 Hz fundamental frequency saw wave...it
2001-04-04 by opart@dircon.co.uk
C'mon guys! There's been loads of 'how does a freq shifter work' stuff on other boards - lets be a bit more Serge specific. 2 of us on this list have asked about the Compressor on the Serge FS with no explanation. What is it there for? What type of compressor is it?? Its very bru
2001-04-04 by Chris MacDonald
I put up some mp3's of a frequency shifter at work. It's not a Serge FS though (wish I had one!), it's a prototype design I have been working on. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SergeModular/files/phase.mp3 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SergeModular/files/up.mp3 http://groups.yahoo
2001-04-04 by Chris MacDonald
I can't say how the Doepfer FS works, but I think most analog frequency shifters work by implementing the trig identity cos(x + y) = cos(x) * cos(y) - sin(x) * sin(y) in analog hardware. Imagine "x" is your input signal and "y" is the carrier oscillator. If the equation above can
2001-04-04 by John Papiewski
Igor, Think about it.... One ring modulator yields sum and difference frequencies mixed together. The expense in the FS AFAIK is in a filtering network that splits the sum out to one output and the difference to another. There are several compromises to be addressed in this filte
2001-04-04 by chris macdonald
Although an analog frequency shifter has (at least) two ring modulators inside, there is a lot more circuitry as well. There is a phase delay network (PDN) which generates two versions of the input signal with a 90 degree phase difference between them. There is also a quadrature
2001-04-04 by Les Mizzell
> A frequency shifter will add the carrier > frequency to all the harmonics of the sound > you want to shift. After considering the possibilities for this, I'd REALLY like somebody to post some audio somewhere. For example, with some careful band pass filtering, you could shift o
2001-04-03 by dahlia13@bigfoot.com
Thanks! That's as lucid and down-to-earth an explanation as I could've asked for. So basically, a frequency shifter allows you to send the sum and the difference frequencies to seperate outputs (that must sound interesting with one output panned hard left, the other hard right),
2001-04-03 by r. kleckner
here u go j- http://www.ibva.com/IBVA%20docs/default.htm http://www.futurehealth.org/waveride.htm Do u work with MAX? ill send u some patches. . . r
2001-04-03 by C. Whitten
Well although everything everyone has said so far has been perfectly correct.... I think the Frequency Shifter does have some pitch shifting qualities. I've used it to 'detune' drums. Also if you are running a sequence and send one of the oscillator outputs to the FS you can get
2001-04-03 by matt wilson
DarkStr717@... wrote: >.........most of the time... somtimes a CV converter, but I'm working on the brainwave thingie real hard. LOL John hey, alvin lucier did it. -- matt wilson is odyssey sounds email: sebsi23@... web: http://members.home.net/odysseysounds/index.htm phone: (619
2001-04-03 by DarkStr717@aol.com
>.........most of the time... somtimes a CV converter, but I'm working on the brainwave thingie real hard. LOL John
2001-04-03 by Les Mizzell
> A frequency shifter will add the carrier frequency to all the harmonics > of the sound you want to shift. Hey, somebody post some MP3s ....say, simple raw sound and then examples of the same with various degrees of shifting applied. What happens with more complex sounds - chord
2001-04-03 by Scott Evans, Gen Mgr
--- Igor ---- Can anyone offer a (simplified) explanation of what's happening inside a frequency shifter circuit? --- John ---- A frequency shifter will add the carrier frequency to all the harmonics of the sound you want to shift. A pitch shifter on the other hand will multiply
2001-04-03 by John Papiewski
Hey Igor, You can think of a frequency shifter as a ring modulator with TWO outputs: the upshift output has only the sum of the two input frequencies, the downshift output has only the difference frequencies. Serge has two FS's in their catalog, the internal carrier model, which
2001-04-03 by dahlia13@bigfoot.com
I got a catalog from Serge/STS a few months ago and one of the modules that's causing me alot of confusion is the Frequency Shifter. What the hell is this thing? I've never heard of it before. After some web searches, I discovered a few other manufacturers who have built FS's - M
2001-04-01 by SergeModular@yahoogroups.com
Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the SergeModular group: Excepting "on board" controllers (knobs, TKB, etc) how do you control your Serge? o I use no external controllers o MIDI-CV converter o CV joystick o CV pedal o CV/Gate Keyboard o analog sequencer o hy
2001-04-01 by matt wilson
(this one's for tobe: tobe, if you didn't get the Grounding Kit with your power supply call Rex and ask for one) Here's the official STS word on grounding; its in the SMOG files section and called sergeground.jpg. So how's your Serge patched today, list? ; -) matt, SMOG-erator. -
2001-04-01 by Tentochi
The MOTM-940 is perfect for this. A set of banana grounding plugs is provided. Of course there are many ways to achieve your grounding --Todd > Essentially, I need to make/buy/conjure out of thin air a banana-to-1/4" > cable that will plug in to the Serge power supply (I'd had no
2001-04-01 by Tobe Schultz
Matt asked: > a listmember asked about this, and i noticed egres didn't have it, so i > posted > a graphic of the "Animal" shop panel to SMOG. > > tobe, does this look right? listmember tobe schultz has one of these. It sure does. On a followup to my Mobius-Animal integration iss
2001-03-31 by matt wilson
a listmember asked about this, and i noticed egres didn't have it, so i posted a graphic of the "Animal" shop panel to SMOG. tobe, does this look right? listmember tobe schultz has one of these. have a great day with your serge! matt -- matt wilson is odyssey sounds email: sebsi2
2001-03-31 by sebsi23@home.com
--- In SergeModular@y..., dlh30039@y... wrote: > I have posted a few picts of my Serge after some embarrassing > struggles with my wife's new camera... > As I posted before, this was built by Carter Thomas, a student in > Serge's class at Calarts. It was gift really, Carter gave
2001-03-30 by DarkStr717@aol.com
In a message dated 3/29/01 11:59:32 PM, esresource@... writes: MIDI I don't know if 10 is a real product as the CV>MIDI (2U) is not on the current price list. * Module title is CMX (CV Mixer), but the graphic shows full processing inputs which would indicate a PRO (CV Processor).
2001-03-30 by Dr. Sonic Colonic
Thanks for the pix! Looks like a nice system and in good shape. >From: dlh30039@... >Reply-To: SergeModular@yahoogroups.com >To: SergeModular@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [SergeModular] Old Calarts era Serge >Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 05:29:09 -0000 > >I have posted a few picts of my S
2001-03-30 by norman fay
My friend scott aitken wrote a feature on michael stearns for audio media magazine some time ago. Only a little bit of serge, I'm afraid, but quite interesting nevertheless IMO. He just emailed me to say it's turned up online, so here it is: http://www.audiomedia.com/archive/feat
2001-03-30 by esresource@earthlink.net
Hi. I was looking at this for some time and have identified most of the modules except for panels 2 and 3 on the right bank. So far: Panel 2 - FRS(2),PEF,WAD and 2 units I can't ID. Panel 3 - XFAD(4),PHA,VCM,STR(2),NCOM(2) and 4 units I can't ID. Can you let me know what these ar
2001-03-30 by Scott Evans, Gen Mgr
Les, Two others that I have sheets on (with Modules listed L to R): 9. Animal - NTO,PCO,VCM,AMX,SSG/DTG w/coupled noise option,VCFQ(X),UAP 10. Animator - SEQ8,NCOM,DTG,RS,DSG,CMX*,BUFF,CV>MIDI I don't know if 10 is a real product as the CV>MIDI (2U) is not on the current price li
2001-03-30 by dlh30039@yahoo.com
I have posted a few picts of my Serge after some embarrassing struggles with my wife's new camera... As I posted before, this was built by Carter Thomas, a student in Serge's class at Calarts. It was gift really, Carter gave it to me as a part of some private composition lessons
2001-03-30 by SergeModular@yahoogroups.com
Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the SergeModular group. File : /3vco3vcf2.GIF Uploaded by : dlh30039@... Description : oldsergevco+vcfs You can access this file at the URL http://groups.yahoo.com/group
2001-03-30 by SergeModular@yahoogroups.com
Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the SergeModular group. File : /3vco3vcf.GIF Uploaded by : dlh30039@... Description : oldvcos+vcfs You can access this file at the URL http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Serg
2001-03-29 by Les Mizzell
A recent article mentioned that there are 12 different shop panels. Looking through the literature that I've got: 1. Sequencer 2. Red Voice 3. CV 1 4. CV 2 5. Soup Kitchen 6. Soup 2 7. Blue Voice 8. TBK Anybody know what the other four are?....and what's in them? Les Mizzell ----
2001-03-29 by spacemodule@webtv.net
Hi, My name is Nick Wilson and I have been lurking here for a while. I don't have a Serge at this time, but am lucky enough to know a few people who do. I play a 6-string electric violin with a bit of (mostly digital) signal processing. I also work with MIDI: Looping, Sampling, S
2001-03-28 by C. Whitten
You read my mind. I just discovered the existence of the Mobius recently and immediately thought it would make a great controller for the Serge. Why not!!! I have a TKB (which I consider to be one of the greatest sequencers ever) but I thought it would be interesting to hear sequ
2001-03-28 by Matt Wilson
Tobe Schultz wrote: I just got a FutureRetro Mobius to control my Animal panel (yes, I'm fully aware that it's a slightly silly thing to do its not silly at all. control is control. lately i've been obsessed with playing my serge with "standard" controllers: i bought a synthesize
2001-03-28 by Tobe Schultz
I just got a FutureRetro Mobius to control my Animal panel (yes, I'm fully aware that it's a slightly silly thing to do -- "I CAN MAKE MY SERGE SOUND JUST LIKE A TB-303!!!!!" as it were -- but I'm quite fond of the FR interface, and once I can afford a TKB I'll move the Mobius to
2001-03-28 by opart@dircon.co.uk
Can anyone clarify the current situation re: purchasing Serge panels? Are the shop panels still being sold out of the SF factory? Can I only order custom panels from Rex in Wisconsin? How long is the wait for custom panels? Also - anybody know the purpose of the Compressor output
2001-03-27 by Chris MacDonald
The power supply chassis inside my PS6 (1999) is made by Condor and is UL and CE rated. The markings are located on the underside of the chassis, so disassembly is required to view them. I never looked inside my previous power supply so I can't say for certain about it. -Chris no
2001-03-27 by norman fay
In message 3ABA9AE0.EA08B5D1@... >, Matt Wilson mbwlaw@... > writes... > >anyone care to comment on STS's shipping packaging? i've never received >any gear in the mail, and have >been lucky enough to pick up all my gear from the shop in person. i'm >sure they have sent plenty >of
2001-03-27 by Sebastian Kuehnl
Hello Igor (whose address I don't have here), Sorry for posting my reply to your Minimoog repair question to the Serge Modular list instead of your email (and for just another off-topic message :~p). I'm used to list programs which reply-to sender not list... If you would like to
2001-03-27 by Sebastian Kuehnl
Thanks for investigating Norman, --- norman fay kay-rad@... > wrote: > SK asked if the serge panels had CE markings...well, I closely examined > my 1997 panel, and ps6 power supply, and there are none. Briefly, every > utensil sold in the european community is supposed to have th
2001-03-27 by r. kleckner
> Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:37:28 +0100 > From: "C. Whitten" chris@... > > Subject: Metasonix > > Has anyone had any experience of these valve based >modules? Hallo Chris. First the Fenix list, now here. . . :) Yes, I am an 'early' operator of Metasonix units. . .i'v