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Re: Bi-N-Tic 'minimum' filter

2005-05-09 by jpontmotm

--- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com , "Jeff Brown" wrote: > > BTW, I just uploaded another sound file (MP3 this time) and the only > knob I twiddled was the fine tune. Nice example, thanks. Gives me a good idea of the usefulness of the Fine Tune control. Appears that this 'filter' h

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Re: Stooge panel design for Bi-N-Tic filter

2005-05-09 by Larry Hendry

As slow as I am you can count on it. Larry data2action rdrake@... > wrote: Might this make it in time for the next run of stoogepanels? --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour [Non-text portions of this message have be

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Bi-N-Tic - with Brewster mods

2005-05-09 by charlesosthelder

Once again, Richard Brewster has enhanced our lives with the use of simple comparator circuits. I'm glad I didn't get around to the front panel, because Richard's idea sounds like a winner. Simpler, more flexible, more modular! My front panel will have pots for Frequency, FM atte

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Re: Stooge panel design for Bi-N-Tic filter

2005-05-09 by data2action

Dave, Looks great, I'd order one. A couple of minor suggestions: --Swap FM and Sub (select switch) controls (so their proximity matches their related function, as w/ the coures/fine controls) --Likewise, swap the FM and Synch In inputs... Might this make it in time for the next r

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Re: Bi-N-Tic 'minimum' filter

2005-05-08 by Jeff Brown

> What is the 'minimum' complement necessary for implementing the 'filter' > part (if I understand what the Bi-N-Tic is about)? > > I'm assuming that the FReq, Damping, Bandwidth controls, and IN, OUT are > a minimum set (?). For example, is the Fine Tune necessary? > Your assump

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Re: Stooge panel design for Bi-N-Tic filter

2005-05-08 by djbrow54

The sub outputs are buffered +/- 5 volt levels from the counter that muxes the switched capacitors. They are the sub outputs of the internal VCO. The switch selects 1 of four outputs and and the sub in adjusts the level as the second input to the mixer. A normalized sub in jack w

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Re: Stooge panel design for Bi-N-Tic filter

2005-05-08 by Adam Schabtach

Maybe it's just because I haven't had my tea yet this morning, but I'm confused as to why there is a SUB IN pot but no corresponding jack. When I saw the four-position switch markings I assumed you intended to run what Ken calls the IN 2 signal through the NC connection of a jack

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Bi-N-Tic 'minimum' filter

2005-05-08 by Jeffrey Pontius

To the current Bi-N-Tic experts, What is the 'minimum' complement necessary for implementing the 'filter' part (if I understand what the Bi-N-Tic is about)? I'm assuming that the FReq, Damping, Bandwidth controls, and IN, OUT are a minimum set (?). For example, is the Fine Tune n

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Stooge panel design for Bi-N-Tic filter

2005-05-08 by djbrow54

I really liked Richard's design for the CGS Bi-N-Tic filter with the sub outputs. I also like all the tic marks and this makes for a fairly expensive panel. We've collaborated and come up with a common design that we will submit as a Stooge panel for Larry's next panel run. This

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Re: My first CGS module up and running

2005-05-08 by Richard Brewster

I think I preferred the LM358 for the Grinder, as recommended by Ken. Dang, it has been too long ago. Truth is that I assembled the board and ran it on my bench, but I still have to build it into its Stooge panel. I've had several months hiatus on module building due to moving to

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Re: Bi-N-Tic parts query

2005-05-08 by Jeff Brown

> 1) Does anyone have manufacturer model numbers for the trim pots for the > Bi-N-Tic? I'm about to order parts, I want to make sure that I get something with the right form factor, and I don't have anything handy to compare. For the 10K (span) you need a multi-turn. I used Mouse

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Re: My first CGS module up and running

2005-05-07 by Adam Schabtach

Thanks for the summary, Richard. I did find some of your postings in the archives. I think that you mentioned that you were going to try other ICs also. Did you ever do that experiment? Was there anything to be gained by changing op-amps? Thanks-- --Adam > -----Original Message--

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Bi-N-Tic parts query

2005-05-07 by Adam Schabtach

Two questions: 1) Does anyone have manufacturer model numbers for the trim pots for the Bi-N-Tic? I'm about to order parts, I want to make sure that I get something with the right form factor, and I don't have anything handy to compare. I'd be extra thankful if anyone can suggest

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Re: Bi-N-Tic Sound File

2005-05-07 by Dennis Verschoor

Hey this sounds nice ! Regards, Dennis On 5/7/05, Jeff Brown guitaricon@... > wrote: > Okay, I uploaded a demo .wav file of the Bi-N-Tic Filter (in the > sound > files folder). I fed pink noise to the signal input, and just a > teensy > tiny bit of low random voltage to the linea

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Re: My first CGS module up and running

2005-05-07 by Richard Brewster

I made the following small mods to my Wave Multiplier: 1. Added a 100pf cap between pins 1 and 2 of IC1 (Grinder) to prevent parasitic oscillation. 2. Added a 1K resistor to ground at the Grinder output to cut the amplitude in half. It can swing to +/- 14.5V otherwise. This mod l

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Re: My first CGS module up and running

2005-05-07 by Adam Schabtach

Thanks for dropping by my website. Yes, the Digital Noise does get really crunchy at low frequencies--it's really fun, and adds a very different flavor to my system. The Wave Multiplier is in fact the next CGS module that I will build. I purchased the PCB at the same time that I

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Re: Bi-N-Tic Sound File

2005-05-07 by ixqy@aol.com

Hi Jeff, I didn't think it was cheezy. I thought it was great! :-) Interesting to hear that the input was pink noise. Thanks for the upload, Andrew Sanchez guitaricon@... writes: > Okay, I uploaded a demo .wav file of the Bi-N-Tic Filter (in the > sound > files folder). I fed pin

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Re: My first CGS module up and running

2005-05-07 by Michael

Checked out your build blog and loved the sound samples, the frequency sweep on the white noise is great, it gets really crunchy, now I have to build one too! :) As far as more CGS, you should build a Wave Multipliers, that's my favorite module so far from Ken. - Michael nil-x --

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Bi-N-Tic Sound File

2005-05-07 by Jeff Brown

Okay, I uploaded a demo .wav file of the Bi-N-Tic Filter (in the sound files folder). I fed pink noise to the signal input, and just a teensy tiny bit of low random voltage to the linear FM input. No filter feedback to the input. Frequency control about mid range. Halfway through

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Re: Bi-N-Tic Filter

2005-05-07 by Richard Brewster

I just uploaded another FPD panel design for the Bi-N-Tic. My idea is to use a CGS56 gate converter board to buffer the 4 counter outputs, which I call SUB1-4 on the panel. These are +/-5V outputs. Internally they go to the SUB IN selector switch, followed by the SUB LEVEL attenu

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New file uploaded to cgs_synth

2005-05-07 by cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com

Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the cgs_synth group. File : /cgs-bi-n-tic.0.fpd Uploaded by : pugix pugix@... > Description : Bi-N-Tic Filter with VCO SUB Outputs You can access this file at the URL: h

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Re: Bi-N-Tic Filter

2005-05-07 by Michael

Looks good to me, you included all the options in a neat MOTM format 2U panel. Only other possibilities could be CV in and FM in amount pots that would just fit on the panel. - Michael nil-x --- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com , "Bob" wrote: > I uploaded a FPD for this filter, any t

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Re: a question of voltage

2005-05-06 by sasami@hotkey.net.au

The first thing you need to do is work out what voltages the AS and Curetronics supplies put out. If they are +/-15V, all you need is to wire up an adapter cable. If they are +/-12V, they should work, but the occasional module will need modification (VCO, Bintic). If they are not

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Re: a question of voltage

2005-05-06 by boward_k

HELP ME!please!!!! > what would be needed to do if I would like suply CGS's with Analogue > Systems or Curetronics powersuplys??

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Re: Bi-N-Tic Filter

2005-05-06 by Bob

I uploaded a FPD for this filter, any thoughts? Improvements? What did I leave out? --- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com , "charlesosthelder" wrote: > Excellent, Jeff! > > My pcb is still on the bench, but it'll be populated this weekend. > I'm glad to hear your enthusiastic report a

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New file uploaded to cgs_synth

2005-05-06 by cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com

Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the cgs_synth group. File : /Bi n Tic Filter.fpd Uploaded by : knarleybass knarleybass@... > Description : Bi-N-Tic panel idea... Thoughts? You can access this file at t

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Re: Bi-N-Tic Filter

2005-05-06 by charlesosthelder

Excellent, Jeff! My pcb is still on the bench, but it'll be populated this weekend. I'm glad to hear your enthusiastic report and I'll definately be adding the switch for the divider feedback option. Thanks! Chub --- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com , "Jeff Brown" wrote: > Wow. > > I

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Re: Bi-N-Tic Filter

2005-05-06 by Dennis Verschoor

Give us some mp3 samples :) On 5/6/05, Jeff Brown guitaricon@... > wrote: > Wow. > > I just got one Bi-N-Tic filter up and running. I wired up a temporary > panel with both the basic and additional wiring. The additional wiring > option is definitely worthwhile. > > I have had al

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Re: Bi--N-Tic

2005-05-06 by brett x

Hi jeff It is very cool isn't it, i'm only going on what i heard of kens proto but after that its definitely on the top of my list of things to do......u obviously have more time for this than me...i got my PCB before anyone and have only just started!! Brett >From: "jeff brown"

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Re: Bi--N-Tic

2005-05-06 by jeff brown

Wow. I just got one Bi-N-Tic filter up and running. I wired up a temporary panel with both the basic and additional wiring. The additional wiring option is definitely worthwhile. I have had all the parts for some time - I'd been planning on building one ever since I read about it

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Bi-N-Tic Filter

2005-05-06 by Jeff Brown

Wow. I just got one Bi-N-Tic filter up and running. I wired up a temporary panel with both the basic and additional wiring. The additional wiring option is definitely worthwhile. I have had all the parts for some time - I'd been planning on building one ever since I read about it

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Re: a question of voltage

2005-05-05 by boward_k

what would be needed to do if I would like suply CGS's with Analogue Systems or Curetronics powersuplys??

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Sub Oscillator ideas

2005-05-02 by charlesosthelder

Hello all! I'd like to get some input on controls and I/O for a 2U MOTM compatible Sub Oscillator panel. Here's what I had planned but am now questioning: Pots for only the straight signals of A and B channel and the four multiplier outputs (six pots total)to send to the mixer. A

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My first CGS module up and running

2005-05-01 by Adam Schabtach

It's my first, but it's definitely not my last. I recently completed a module based on a CGS Digital Noise PC board, in MOTM format. There are some comments about the project, photos, and demonstration recordings at my web site. The direct link to the blog entry is: http://www.st

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Re: Gated Comparator

2005-05-01 by Adam Schabtach

> Finished it,installed it, and can't stop playing with it. What a great > module! If you've been looking for something beyond sample/hold or > counter/divider, put the Gated Comparator in your case. Wow, that does look like a good one. Thanks for pointing it out. > I built mine

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Gated Comparator

2005-05-01 by charlesosthelder

Finished it,installed it, and can't stop playing with it. What a great module! If you've been looking for something beyond sample/hold or counter/divider, put the Gated Comparator in your case. I built mine with all 14 jacks, the threshold pot (a very powerful control! Do NOT omi

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Bi--N-Tic

2005-05-01 by charlesosthelder

Ken, Ken , Ken... nice addition! I was going to go with less on the Bi-N-Tic, but you've sold me on the full I/O complement. The pcb just arrived, too! Finished the Gated Comparator, getting more parts for the VCO's, on with the VCF! This is going to be just what the Engine of Ch

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Re: Bi-N-Tic Filter Tempco resistor help?

2005-04-26 by Scott Stites

Hey Bob, Be sure to post some samples! Cheers, Scott -----Original Message----- From: Bob knarleybass@... > Sent: Apr 26, 2005 4:10 PM To: cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cgs_synth] Re: Bi-N-Tic Filter Tempco resistor help? Thanks for all the help with the tempcos, I orderd a

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Re: Bi-N-Tic Filter Tempco resistor help?

2005-04-26 by Bob

Thanks for all the help with the tempcos, I orderd a pair from ELBY Designs... I can't wait to get this Bi-N-Tic filter going! Howard --- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com , "Bob" wrote: > > Hi, > can anyone help me with a source for the tempco resistor in the USA > for the Bi-N-Tic F

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Re: Bi-N-Tic Filter Tempco resistor help?

2005-04-26 by charlesosthelder

The Precision Resistor people are great to work with. Any size order, above the minimum, is shipped fast. I bought enough resistors to cover the minimum, but now with the Bi-N-Tic filter added to my two VCO's, I wish I'd gotten more! After all, they do keep and I know I'll be bui

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Re: Bi-N-Tic Filter Tempco resistor help?

2005-04-26 by Adam Schabtach

If these things are hard to get in small quantities, would there be any sense in Ken buying a bunch and selling them along with the PCBs? Maybe enough of us could commit to buying the resistor and PCB to make it worth his time/effort/money to buy a bunch of these resistors? --Ada

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Re: Bi-N-Tic Filter Tempco resistor help?

2005-04-26 by jeff brown

For 1K tempco resistors (in small quantities) you have 3 choices that I know of: Elby Designs, Oakley Sound and EFM. Links are here: http://www.guitarfool.com/parts.html Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob" knarleybass@... > To: cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday,

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Re: Bi-N-Tic Filter Tempco resistor help?

2005-04-26 by Ryan Williams

try http://www.precisionresistor.com they have a +3500ppm/degC for $3.1 each, but i think the minimum order is like $25. if +3500 is not good enough for you, they will make another value custom but it'll cost more. ryan Bob wrote: > > Hi, > can anyone help me with a source for th

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Re: Bi-N-Tic Filter Tempco resistor help?

2005-04-26 by Bob

Hi, can anyone help me with a source for the tempco resistor in the USA for the Bi-N-Tic Filter? thanks Howard --- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com , dustin sedlacek wrote: > speaking of hearing one ... can we get some MP3's ? > > On 4/25/05, Scott Stites wrote: > > > ...very differe

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Band Pass Filter

2005-04-26 by James

I find myself in need of several bandpass filters and I think Ken's just might fill the bill. Question: Does anyone know what the roll- off slope, in dB/Oct, is? Thanks, -James-

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Re: Bi-N-Tic Filter

2005-04-26 by sasami@hotkey.net.au

>I'd love to see a simple diagram of the suggested extra feedback circuit from the unused >division outs... it looks exciting too That will be coming as soon as I finish the art. Ken _______________________________________________________________________ Ken Stone sasami@... or s

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Re: jack converter?

2005-04-26 by James Gallant

You might want to look at the Q122 Mini Jack Interface from Synthesizers.com. Or you could make your own, it's just hard wired tip-to-tip and sleeve-to-sleeve. -James- http://synthesizers.com/q122.html >From: "boward_k" bovar.kalim@... > >Reply-To: cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com >To:

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Re: Bi-N-Tic Filter

2005-04-26 by dustin sedlacek

speaking of hearing one ... can we get some MP3's ? On 4/25/05, Scott Stites scottnoanh@... > wrote: > > ...very different to any filter i've heard...buy one!! ;) > > It's gotta be if it's filter that trip's Ken's fancy. This looks like a > very exciting design - I'd love to hear

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Re: Bi-N-Tic Filter

2005-04-25 by Scott Stites

> ...very different to any filter i've heard...buy one!! ;) It's gotta be if it's filter that trip's Ken's fancy. This looks like a very exciting design - I'd love to hear one. Cheers, Scott

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Re: Bi-N-Tic Filter

2005-04-25 by Fernando de Izuzquiza

Yes, it looks weird and exciting! I'd love to see a simple diagram of the suggested extra feedback circuit from the unused division outs... it looks exciting too Thanks Ken! Cheers, Fernando

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