Disklavier

I just heard from a Disklavier salesman over the weekend that the Mark I
(with separate add-on tone generator not included in control unit) solenoids
are different than those on the latest Mark III.

He stated that many people have been unhappy with how quietly they could
have their Disklaviers play because the solenoids are louder, and the piano
just won't play as quiet as a new Mark III.  Is this anyone's experience
with the older Disklaviers?  Is the piano too loud to have playing in the
background for party conversation in the same room (5' 3" C1)?

Also, he stated that the older solenoids would never be capable of playing
the Cue Time music or wiggle themselves as instructional aids (Pianosoft
Smart) because of the older solenoids.  I thought I could just upgrade my
control unit in the future to the CD type, because the innards are the same
since the beginning.

Has the fiber optics changed at all between a Disklavier produced in 1997
(Mark I) and the latest Mark III's?

Thanks for any information you can shed on the subject.  I tend not to trust
salesmen completely, especially when they're trying to talk me out of
purchasing a used one for $6,000 less than new.

John W. Gewartowski 
Sr. Product Support Engineer, Product Technical Services 
Tyco Healthcare Retail Group 
610-878-3423

Everything electronic has changed in the last 6 years!  A savings of $6000,
in my opinion,  is not a good value to choose a Mark I over a Mark III.  A
Mark I with added tone generator still needs old style 720k floppy disks and
does not play standard MIDI files from the floppy drive.

On the other hand, the Mark III has everything; uses HD disks, has 16 memory
disks, plays standard MIDI files in both format 0 and format 1, has built-in
audio with speakers, over 600 sounds in the XG  tone generator, CD drive,
Silent system and those solenoids are much more sensitive in reproducing
piano performances.  Also, the Mark III will play Que Time, Smart Key and
PianoSmart.

No disklavier in piano mode only is quiet enough to play during
"conversation".  A disklavier will only play as quietly as a real piano
player sitting at the keyboard.  However, the Mark III can be put in Silent
Mode, then the volume turned up.  What you hear is the piano tone (and
Ensemble tones) coming through the speakers as audio, and this is infinitely
controllable like the audio on your stereo system.  If people are engaged in
conversation, no one will notice that the piano sound is really coming from
the speakers mounted underneath the piano and not from  the strings because
the keys are moving.

It's like the difference between a new Cadillac with OnStar system, and an
older model you have to set the gap in the spark plugs yourself!!

Carol Beigel

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gewartowski, John" <john.gewartowski@...>
To: "Disklavier Users Group (E-mail)" <dug@...>; "Disklavier
Yahoo Group (E-mail)" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 10:03 AM
Subject: [disklavier] Mark I Not Quiet Enough? Different Solenoids Than Mark
III?


> I just heard from a Disklavier salesman over the weekend that the Mark I
> (with separate add-on tone generator not included in control unit)
solenoids
> are different than those on the latest Mark III.
>
> He stated that many people have been unhappy with how quietly they could
> have their Disklaviers play because the solenoids are louder, and the
piano
> just won't play as quiet as a new Mark III.  Is this anyone's experience
> with the older Disklaviers?  Is the piano too loud to have playing in the
> background for party conversation in the same room (5' 3" C1)?
>
> Also, he stated that the older solenoids would never be capable of playing
> the Cue Time music or wiggle themselves as instructional aids (Pianosoft
> Smart) because of the older solenoids.  I thought I could just upgrade my
> control unit in the future to the CD type, because the innards are the
same
> since the beginning.
>
> Has the fiber optics changed at all between a Disklavier produced in 1997
> (Mark I) and the latest Mark III's?
>
> Thanks for any information you can shed on the subject.  I tend not to
trust
> salesmen completely, especially when they're trying to talk me out of
> purchasing a used one for $6,000 less than new.
>
> John W. Gewartowski
> Sr. Product Support Engineer, Product Technical Services
> Tyco Healthcare Retail Group
> 610-878-3423
>
>
>       Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
>             ADVERTISEMENT
>
>
>
>
> To Post a message to the group, send it to:   disklavier@...
>
> To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and
moderator, send it to:
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>
> To reach our group's web site go to:
> http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
>
> Todd's family web site was completely updated 01/15/03.  It contains some
fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among many other things, The
url is:
> http://MuncyFamily.com
>
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Thanks Carol.
One thing you mentioned has me concerned.
Why can't the Mark I play standard midi files from floppy?
Can it play midi files in any version from floppy?
I have been downloading like crazy some great midi files from the 
Internet, all the time looking forward to having them play on my 
Disklavier.  Not the case?
Or, are you simply stating that I'll have to go through more trouble 
by first converting format 0 to format 1 or vice versa?

Thanks.




--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Carol Beigel" <crbrpt@b...> wrote:
> Everything electronic has changed in the last 6 years!  A savings 
of $6000,
> in my opinion,  is not a good value to choose a Mark I over a Mark 
III.  A
> Mark I with added tone generator still needs old style 720k floppy 
disks and
> does not play standard MIDI files from the floppy drive.
> 
> On the other hand, the Mark III has everything; uses HD disks, has 
16 memory
> disks, plays standard MIDI files in both format 0 and format 1, has 
built-in
> audio with speakers, over 600 sounds in the XG  tone generator, CD 
drive,
> Silent system and those solenoids are much more sensitive in 
reproducing
> piano performances.  Also, the Mark III will play Que Time, Smart 
Key and
> PianoSmart.
> 
> No disklavier in piano mode only is quiet enough to play during
> "conversation".  A disklavier will only play as quietly as a real 
piano
> player sitting at the keyboard.  However, the Mark III can be put 
in Silent
> Mode, then the volume turned up.  What you hear is the piano tone 
(and
> Ensemble tones) coming through the speakers as audio, and this is 
infinitely
> controllable like the audio on your stereo system.  If people are 
engaged in
> conversation, no one will notice that the piano sound is really 
coming from
> the speakers mounted underneath the piano and not from  the strings 
because
> the keys are moving.
> 
> It's like the difference between a new Cadillac with OnStar system, 
and an
> older model you have to set the gap in the spark plugs yourself!!
> 
> Carol Beigel
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gewartowski, John" <john.gewartowski@t...>
> To: "Disklavier Users Group (E-mail)" <dug@n...>; "Disklavier
> Yahoo Group (E-mail)" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 10:03 AM
> Subject: [disklavier] Mark I Not Quiet Enough? Different Solenoids 
Than Mark
> III?
> 
> 
> > I just heard from a Disklavier salesman over the weekend that the 
Mark I
> > (with separate add-on tone generator not included in control unit)
> solenoids
> > are different than those on the latest Mark III.
> >
> > He stated that many people have been unhappy with how quietly 
they could
> > have their Disklaviers play because the solenoids are louder, and 
the
> piano
> > just won't play as quiet as a new Mark III.  Is this anyone's 
experience
> > with the older Disklaviers?  Is the piano too loud to have 
playing in the
> > background for party conversation in the same room (5' 3" C1)?
> >
> > Also, he stated that the older solenoids would never be capable 
of playing
> > the Cue Time music or wiggle themselves as instructional aids 
(Pianosoft
> > Smart) because of the older solenoids.  I thought I could just 
upgrade my
> > control unit in the future to the CD type, because the innards 
are the
> same
> > since the beginning.
> >
> > Has the fiber optics changed at all between a Disklavier produced 
in 1997
> > (Mark I) and the latest Mark III's?
> >
> > Thanks for any information you can shed on the subject.  I tend 
not to
> trust
> > salesmen completely, especially when they're trying to talk me 
out of
> > purchasing a used one for $6,000 less than new.
> >
> > John W. Gewartowski
> > Sr. Product Support Engineer, Product Technical Services
> > Tyco Healthcare Retail Group
> > 610-878-3423
> >
> >
> >       Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
> >             ADVERTISEMENT
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To Post a message to the group, send it to:   disklavier@Y...
> >
> > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and
> moderator, send it to:
> > disklavier-owner@Y...
> >
> > To reach our group's web site go to:
> > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
> >
> > Todd's family web site was completely updated 01/15/03.  It 
contains some
> fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among many other 
things, The
> url is:
> > http://MuncyFamily.com
> >
> > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
> > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too 
much mail,
> go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead.  
That
> will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group.  
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> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of 
Service.
> >

A MarkI (MX100A or MX100B) does not play MIDI files from a floppy disk.  You
must convert the midis to ESEQ first, then put them on a DD 720k disk.  Use
the MID2ESEQ software in the dkvutil.  A Mark II will play standard MIDI
file format 0 also from a DD 720k disk.  All DKVs however, will play a MIDI
file from a computer through a MIDI interface connected to the control box.

Remember when downloading MIDI files from the internet two very important
things.  The Disklavier will play the piano keys from whatever data is on
Channel 1 and 2 regardless of the track assignments or voice selected.
Since many midis on the internet are created on electronic keyboards, the
velocity is way too high for a piano.  Make sure the velocity (or controller
7) is set to a number under 100.  I find about 65 is just right for my
upright DKV.

Carol Beigel

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "yinyangster" <john.gewartowski@...>
To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:49 PM
Subject: [disklavier] Re: Mark I Not Quiet Enough? Different Solenoids Than
Mark III?

> Thanks Carol.
> One thing you mentioned has me concerned.
> Why can't the Mark I play standard midi files from floppy?
> Can it play midi files in any version from floppy?
> I have been downloading like crazy some great midi files from the
> Internet, all the time looking forward to having them play on my
> Disklavier.  Not the case?
> Or, are you simply stating that I'll have to go through more trouble
> by first converting format 0 to format 1 or vice versa?
>
> Thanks.
>

You can convert your MIDIs to E-SEQ and play them on the DKV from a 
diskette.  You can use the Giebler Utilities to do the conversion. See 
www.giebler.com/

Or, using a sequencer such as Power Tracks ( www.pgmusic.com/ ) and a 
MIDI hardware interface you can play your files to your DKV's MIDI input.

You are probably at the edge of a pitfall just now.  You will need an 
application such as Power Tracks to examine your MIDI files, to set the 
piano track to channel 1, and to modify the note velocities.

yinyangster wrote:
> Thanks Carol.
> One thing you mentioned has me concerned.
> Why can't the Mark I play standard midi files from floppy?
> Can it play midi files in any version from floppy?
> I have been downloading like crazy some great midi files from the 
> Internet, all the time looking forward to having them play on my 
> Disklavier.  Not the case?
> Or, are you simply stating that I'll have to go through more trouble 
> by first converting format 0 to format 1 or vice versa?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Carol Beigel" <crbrpt@b...> wrote:
> 
>>Everything electronic has changed in the last 6 years!  A savings 
> 
> of $6000,
> 
>>in my opinion,  is not a good value to choose a Mark I over a Mark 
> 
> III.  A
> 
>>Mark I with added tone generator still needs old style 720k floppy 
> 
> disks and
> 
>>does not play standard MIDI files from the floppy drive.
>>
>>On the other hand, the Mark III has everything; uses HD disks, has 
> 
> 16 memory
> 
>>disks, plays standard MIDI files in both format 0 and format 1, has 
> 
> built-in
> 
>>audio with speakers, over 600 sounds in the XG  tone generator, CD 
> 
> drive,
> 
>>Silent system and those solenoids are much more sensitive in 
> 
> reproducing
> 
>>piano performances.  Also, the Mark III will play Que Time, Smart 
> 
> Key and
> 
>>PianoSmart.
>>
>>No disklavier in piano mode only is quiet enough to play during
>>"conversation".  A disklavier will only play as quietly as a real 
> 
> piano
> 
>>player sitting at the keyboard.  However, the Mark III can be put 
> 
> in Silent
> 
>>Mode, then the volume turned up.  What you hear is the piano tone 
> 
> (and
> 
>>Ensemble tones) coming through the speakers as audio, and this is 
> 
> infinitely
> 
>>controllable like the audio on your stereo system.  If people are 
> 
> engaged in
> 
>>conversation, no one will notice that the piano sound is really 
> 
> coming from
> 
>>the speakers mounted underneath the piano and not from  the strings 
> 
> because
> 
>>the keys are moving.
>>
>>It's like the difference between a new Cadillac with OnStar system, 
> 
> and an
> 
>>older model you have to set the gap in the spark plugs yourself!!
>>
>>Carol Beigel
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "Gewartowski, John" <john.gewartowski@t...>
>>To: "Disklavier Users Group (E-mail)" <dug@n...>; "Disklavier
>>Yahoo Group (E-mail)" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
>>Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 10:03 AM
>>Subject: [disklavier] Mark I Not Quiet Enough? Different Solenoids 
> 
> Than Mark
> 
>>III?
>>
>>
>>
>>>I just heard from a Disklavier salesman over the weekend that the 
>>
> Mark I
> 
>>>(with separate add-on tone generator not included in control unit)
>>
>>solenoids
>>
>>>are different than those on the latest Mark III.
>>>
>>>He stated that many people have been unhappy with how quietly 
>>
> they could
> 
>>>have their Disklaviers play because the solenoids are louder, and 
>>
> the
> 
>>piano
>>
>>>just won't play as quiet as a new Mark III.  Is this anyone's 
>>
> experience
> 
>>>with the older Disklaviers?  Is the piano too loud to have 
>>
> playing in the
> 
>>>background for party conversation in the same room (5' 3" C1)?
>>>
>>>Also, he stated that the older solenoids would never be capable 
>>
> of playing
> 
>>>the Cue Time music or wiggle themselves as instructional aids 
>>
> (Pianosoft
> 
>>>Smart) because of the older solenoids.  I thought I could just 
>>
> upgrade my
> 
>>>control unit in the future to the CD type, because the innards 
>>
> are the
> 
>>same
>>
>>>since the beginning.
>>>
>>>Has the fiber optics changed at all between a Disklavier produced 
>>
> in 1997
> 
>>>(Mark I) and the latest Mark III's?
>>>
>>>Thanks for any information you can shed on the subject.  I tend 
>>
> not to
> 
>>trust
>>
>>>salesmen completely, especially when they're trying to talk me 
>>
> out of
> 
>>>purchasing a used one for $6,000 less than new.
>>>
>>>John W. Gewartowski
>>>Sr. Product Support Engineer, Product Technical Services
>>>Tyco Healthcare Retail Group
>>>610-878-3423
>>>
>>>
>>>      Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
>>>            ADVERTISEMENT
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>To Post a message to the group, send it to:   disklavier@Y...
>>>
>>>To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and
>>
>>moderator, send it to:
>>
>>>disklavier-owner@Y...
>>>
>>>To reach our group's web site go to:
>>>http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
>>>
>>>Todd's family web site was completely updated 01/15/03.  It 
>>
> contains some
> 
>>fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among many other 
> 
> things, The
> 
>>url is:
>>
>>>http://MuncyFamily.com
>>>
>>>THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
>>>If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too 
>>
> much mail,
> 
>>go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead.  
> 
> That
> 
>>will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group.  
> 
> If you
> 
>>insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to:
>>
>>>disklavier-unsubscribe@y...
>>>
>>>Know someone who wants to join?  Have them send a blank email to:
>>>disklavier-subscribe@e... or give them this link:
>>>http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join
>>>
>>>
>>>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of 
>>
> Service.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> To Post a message to the group, send it to:   disklavier@...
> 
> To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and moderator, send it to:
> disklavier-owner@...
> 
> To reach our group's web site go to:
> http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
> 
> Todd's family web site was completely updated 01/15/03.  It contains some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among many other things, The url is:
> http://MuncyFamily.com 
> 
> THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
> If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail, go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead.  That will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group.  If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to:
> disklavier-unsubscribe@... 
> 
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>  
> 
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> 
> 
> 


-- 
Robert Welcyng
Anchorage, Alaska

...But an MX-100 can play MIDI from 720k floppies with the latest 
firmware.  I rang Yamaha in Japan and they sent me the latest 
firmware chip (to the UK) for the princely sum of $4 including 
shipping.  Plug this chip in in place of the existing one in the 
control box (not too tricky really) and it will play MIDI files from 
floppy...


Charles


--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Carol Beigel" <crbrpt@b...> 
wrote:
> A MarkI (MX100A or MX100B) does not play MIDI files from a floppy 
disk.  You
> must convert the midis to ESEQ first, then put them on a DD 720k 
disk.  Use

Hallo Charles,

Can you tell us where write to have this new firmare chip?

Thanks

Ray

-----Message d'origine-----
De : tillsbury2000 [mailto:charlessteadman@...]
Envoy\ufffd : vendredi 5 d\ufffdcembre 2003 21:24
\ufffd : disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Objet : [disklavier] Re: Mark I not playing MIDI files on floppies


...But an MX-100 can play MIDI from 720k floppies with the latest
firmware.  I rang Yamaha in Japan and they sent me the latest
firmware chip (to the UK) for the princely sum of $4 including
shipping.  Plug this chip in in place of the existing one in the
control box (not too tricky really) and it will play MIDI files from
floppy...


Charles


--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Carol Beigel" <crbrpt@b...>
wrote:
> A MarkI (MX100A or MX100B) does not play MIDI files from a floppy
disk.  You
> must convert the midis to ESEQ first, then put them on a DD 720k
disk.  Use




To Post a message to the group, send it to:   disklavier@...

To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and moderator,
send it to:
disklavier-owner@...

To reach our group's web site go to:
http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier

Todd's family web site was completely updated 01/15/03.  It contains some
fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among many other things, The
url is:
http://MuncyFamily.com

THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail,
go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead.  That
will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group.  If you
insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to:
disklavier-unsubscribe@...

Know someone who wants to join?  Have them send a blank email to:
disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this link:
http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join


Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

If you can't source the chip from Yamaha, try contacting 
PianoQuest.  They bring in Disklavier pianos from Japan (grey 
market) and completely refurbish them.  One of the things they do is 
replace the control unit chip so that the on-screen text will read 
in English.  They can probably help you out.

Their web site is:
http://www.pianoquest.com

Their email is:
info@pianoquest.com
service@...

Their Phone Number: (843) 687-8664 M-F 6am-2pm PST

I contemplated buying my Disklavier from PianoQuest, but ended up 
buying a new one from an authorized Yamaha dealer.

-Robert

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Ralph Specht" <thespechts@c...> 
wrote:
> Will this chip also convert the Japanese Menu prompts to English?  
One can only wish.
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Raymond Dupuy 
>   To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 3:51 PM
>   Subject: RE: [disklavier] Re: Mark I not playing MIDI files on 
floppies
> 
> 
>   Hallo Charles,
> 
>   Can you tell us where write to have this new firmare chip?
> 
>   Thanks
> 
>   Ray
> 
>   -----Message d'origine-----
>   De : tillsbury2000 [mailto:charlessteadman@h...]
>   Envoyé : vendredi 5 décembre 2003 21:24
>   À : disklavier@yahoogroups.com
>   Objet : [disklavier] Re: Mark I not playing MIDI files on 
floppies
> 
> 
>   ...But an MX-100 can play MIDI from 720k floppies with the latest
>   firmware.  I rang Yamaha in Japan and they sent me the latest
>   firmware chip (to the UK) for the princely sum of $4 including
>   shipping.  Plug this chip in in place of the existing one in the
>   control box (not too tricky really) and it will play MIDI files 
from
>   floppy...
> 
> 
>   Charles
> 
> 
>   --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Carol Beigel" <crbrpt@b...>
>   wrote:
>   > A MarkI (MX100A or MX100B) does not play MIDI files from a 
floppy
>   disk.  You
>   > must convert the midis to ESEQ first, then put them on a DD 
720k
>   disk.  Use
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   To Post a message to the group, send it to:   disklavier@Y...
> 
>   To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and 
moderator,
>   send it to:
>   disklavier-owner@Y...
> 
>   To reach our group's web site go to:
>   http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
> 
>   Todd's family web site was completely updated 01/15/03.  It 
contains some
>   fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among many other 
things, The
>   url is:
>   http://MuncyFamily.com
> 
>   THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
>   If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too 
much mail,
>   go the the web site and change your email delivery option 
instead.  That
>   will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the 
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>   insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to:
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> 
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http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> 
> 
> 
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>              
>        
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moderator, send it to:
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> 
>   To reach our group's web site go to:
>   http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
> 
>   Todd's family web site was completely updated 01/15/03.  It 
contains some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among 
many other things, The url is:
>   http://MuncyFamily.com 
> 
>   THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
>   If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too 
much mail, go the the web site and change your email delivery option 
instead.  That will fix the problem, while maintaining your access 
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Bonjour Ray,

No, I'm sorry, I've completely forgotten the final source.  I found 
contact via email on the yamaha.com site, and received a reply from 
some kind of service department (or support department) asking for 
credit card payment and an address.  And I can't find that reply.  

Perhaps one of the grown-ups around here from Yamaha might know -- 
is there anyone out there?

In response to the other questions about Japanese menus, I have even 
less idea (my Disklavier was a UK one).


Charles

- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Raymond Dupuy" 
<Raymond.Dupuy@w...> wrote:

> Hallo Charles,
> 
> Can you tell us where write to have this new firmare chip?