Yahoo Groups archive

Disklavier

Index last updated: 2026-04-28 23:20 UTC

Thread

Hello EVERYONE!!!

Hello EVERYONE!!!

2005-06-30 by abus500

Hello everyone!

I recently joined the Disklavier group because I ordered a new Yamaha 
DC3M4t two weeks ago, and am waiting for the delivery of the piano 
(hopefully sometime next week). I am hoping the piano lives up to the 
impression I have of it. I am still learning about it's features and 
limitations, so you will probably be hearing a lot from me in the 
future. Thanks all.


Clifford

Re: [disklavier] Hello EVERYONE!!!

2005-06-30 by George F. Litterst

Good evening, everyone.

On Jun 29, 2005, at 8:49 PM, Clifford wrote:

I recently joined the Disklavier group because I ordered a new Yamaha
DC3M4t two weeks ago, and am waiting for the delivery of the piano
(hopefully sometime next week). I am hoping the piano lives up to the
impression I have of it. I am still learning about it's features and
limitations, so you will probably be hearing a lot from me in the
future. Thanks all.

Congratulations on your exciting purchase. When you receive the instrument, be sure to check that the instrument's software is version 1.11, the latest version. If not, you should be able to get a free update from your dealer.

Regards,
PianoBench

Re: [disklavier] Hello EVERYONE!!!

2005-06-30 by Tom Wheeler

HI Clifford,

I purchased a DC3M4t in early December 2004, and I really love this 
piano.  I know that you are going to enjoy the piano immensely.  Don't 
hesitate to ask questions as you will find the group here to be friendly 
and helpful.  The Mark IV disklavier's have gone through several 
firmware (software) upgrades since I purchased mine six months ago.  You 
should ensure that your dealer installs the latest  version (1.11 of the 
software) on your Mark IV prior to delivery.  Your dealer should have 
been sent this version of the software by Yamaha back in April. Version 
1.11 of the software addressed several annoying bugs in the initial 
software for the Mark IV.  Congratulations again on purchasing the DC3M4t.

Tom

abus500 wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>Hello everyone!
>
>I recently joined the Disklavier group because I ordered a new Yamaha 
>DC3M4t two weeks ago, and am waiting for the delivery of the piano 
>(hopefully sometime next week). I am hoping the piano lives up to the 
>impression I have of it. I am still learning about it's features and 
>limitations, so you will probably be hearing a lot from me in the 
>future. Thanks all.
>
>
>Clifford
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>

Re: DC3M4t

2005-06-30 by Bob Colopy

You won't be disappointed, Clifford, with the DC3M4t - it is better than my 
expectations. However, I've noticed that when I turn on the remote before 
the piano has fully loaded it can misbehave. It plays certain notes on 
playback (on its own - not part of the midi recording) and usually they 
don't harmonize with the intended piece. Just curious if others have the 
same problem? It is easy to correct - just reboot and be patient making 
sure the remote is not turned on too early or too late relative to when the 
piano is ready and before it goes into sleep mode.

Bob

At 08:49 PM 6/29/2005, you wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>Hello everyone!
>
>I recently joined the Disklavier group because I ordered a new Yamaha
>DC3M4t two weeks ago, and am waiting for the delivery of the piano
>(hopefully sometime next week). I am hoping the piano lives up to the
>impression I have of it. I am still learning about it's features and
>limitations, so you will probably be hearing a lot from me in the
>future. Thanks all.
>
>
>Clifford

Re: [disklavier] Re: DC3M4t

2005-06-30 by Tom Wheeler

Bob,

I am not totally sure that I am following you in terms of your Mark IV 
"...plays certain notes on playback (on its own - not part of the midi 
recording)" when you "turn on the remote before the piano is fully 
loaded".  I operate my DC3M4t fully from the PRC-100 or the TRC-100 
wireless remotes including bringing the Mark IV out of sleep mode with 
either of those remotes, and, when I am finished playing the Mark IV, 
using either of these remotes to place the Mark IV in the standby or 
sleep mode.  I can then begin to play or record any selection without 
any problems.  I have never noticed the Mark IV playing any notes "on 
its own" that are not a part of the midi file.  You may wish to have 
your DC3M4t checked out by a technician or give Yamaha support a call.  
Something does not sound right with regard to your Mark IV. 

Tom

Bob Colopy wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>You won't be disappointed, Clifford, with the DC3M4t - it is better than my 
>expectations. However, I've noticed that when I turn on the remote before 
>the piano has fully loaded it can misbehave. It plays certain notes on 
>playback (on its own - not part of the midi recording) and usually they 
>don't harmonize with the intended piece. Just curious if others have the 
>same problem? It is easy to correct - just reboot and be patient making 
>sure the remote is not turned on too early or too late relative to when the 
>piano is ready and before it goes into sleep mode.
>
>Bob
>
>  
>
>  
>

the note is F on DC3M4t

2005-06-30 by Bob Colopy

Tom,

I'm not a pianist just love the piano and so play midi files. The last 4 or 
5 times I have had company over it has spoiled my "show-off" performance by 
playing F below middle C randomly and much louder than the rest of the 
piece during playback - no matter what files I use, including the pieces 
that come with the piano. However, I can correct the problem by rebooting 
the system and being very careful on the timing of when I turn on the small 
remote. But usually when company comes I'm busy hosting so cannot wait and 
watch for the precise second or two after the green light is on solid and 
before it dims. If I miss that time slot it does its random note thing 
which of course is embarrassing for me when trying to demonstrate how great 
the piano is.

I called technical support who have been excellent. They said it is like 
any computer even though this is running the Lynx system. When have 
problems, just reboot. Usually I don't have time with company so just hope 
they don't notice the random notes but sometimes it is so obvious and I 
have to explain what happened and that it is not normal e.g. I didn't 
follow the precise timing on turning on the remote. If I'm the only one 
with this problem then probably it is not the computer but something to do 
with cross talk to that particular solenoid. But if that is the case then 
how come I can avoid the random notes with precise timing when turning on 
the remote?

I normally keep this expensive piano unplugged so there is no chance that 
lightning could damage the electronics. It is only plugged in just before I 
use it - don't know if that has any bearing on it.

Thank you,

Bob

At 11:21 PM 6/29/2005, you wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>Bob,
>
>I am not totally sure that I am following you in terms of your Mark IV 
>"...plays certain notes on playback (on its own - not part of the midi 
>recording)" when you "turn on the remote before the piano is fully 
>loaded".  I operate my DC3M4t fully from the PRC-100 or the TRC-100 
>wireless remotes including bringing the Mark IV out of sleep mode with 
>either of those remotes, and, when I am finished playing the Mark IV, 
>using either of these remotes to place the Mark IV in the standby or sleep 
>mode.  I can then begin to play or record any selection without any 
>problems.  I have never noticed the Mark IV playing any notes "on its own" 
>that are not a part of the midi file.  You may wish to have your DC3M4t 
>checked out by a technician or give Yamaha support a call.  Something does 
>not sound right with regard to your Mark IV.
>
>Tom
>
>Bob Colopy wrote:
>>
>>You won't be disappointed, Clifford, with the DC3M4t - it is better than my
>>expectations. However, I've noticed that when I turn on the remote before
>>the piano has fully loaded it can misbehave. It plays certain notes on
>>playback (on its own - not part of the midi recording) and usually they
>>don't harmonize with the intended piece. Just curious if others have the
>>same problem? It is easy to correct - just reboot and be patient making
>>sure the remote is not turned on too early or too late relative to when the
>>piano is ready and before it goes into sleep mode.
>>
>>Bob
>>
>>

Re: [disklavier] the note is F on DC3M4t

2005-06-30 by George F. Litterst

Good morning, everyone.

Bob, what you describe goes well beyond the occasional, random  
computer glitch that requires a reboot. I would make sure that the  
instrument has version 1.11 of the system software and then I would  
insist on getting a fix from either your dealer or Yamaha Piano  
Service. I don't believe that Yamaha will leave you unsatisfied.

Regards,
PianoBench
Show quoted textHide quoted text
On Jun 30, 2005, at 7:57 AM, Bob Colopy wrote:

> Tom,
>
> I'm not a pianist just love the piano and so play midi files. The  
> last 4 or 5 times I have had company over it has spoiled my "show- 
> off" performance by playing F below middle C randomly and much  
> louder than the rest of the piece during playback - no matter what  
> files I use, including the pieces that come with the piano.  
> However, I can correct the problem by rebooting the system and  
> being very careful on the timing of when I turn on the small  
> remote. But usually when company comes I'm busy hosting so cannot  
> wait and watch for the precise second or two after the green light  
> is on solid and before it dims. If I miss that time slot it does  
> its random note thing which of course is embarrassing for me when  
> trying to demonstrate how great the piano is.
>
> I called technical support who have been excellent. They said it is  
> like any computer even though this is running the Lynx system. When  
> have problems, just reboot. Usually I don't have time with company  
> so just hope they don't notice the random notes but sometimes it is  
> so obvious and I have to explain what happened and that it is not  
> normal e.g. I didn't follow the precise timing on turning on the  
> remote. If I'm the only one with this problem then probably it is  
> not the computer but something to do with cross talk to that  
> particular solenoid. But if that is the case then how come I can  
> avoid the random notes with precise timing when turning on the remote?
>
> I normally keep this expensive piano unplugged so there is no  
> chance that lightning could damage the electronics. It is only  
> plugged in just before I use it - don't know if that has any  
> bearing on it.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Bob
>
> At 11:21 PM 6/29/2005, you wrote:
>> Bob,
>>
>> I am not totally sure that I am following you in terms of your  
>> Mark IV "...plays certain notes on playback (on its own - not part  
>> of the midi recording)" when you "turn on the remote before the  
>> piano is fully loaded".  I operate my DC3M4t fully from the  
>> PRC-100 or the TRC-100 wireless remotes including bringing the  
>> Mark IV out of sleep mode with either of those remotes, and, when  
>> I am finished playing the Mark IV, using either of these remotes  
>> to place the Mark IV in the standby or sleep mode.  I can then  
>> begin to play or record any selection without any problems.  I  
>> have never noticed the Mark IV playing any notes "on its own" that  
>> are not a part of the midi file.  You may wish to have your DC3M4t  
>> checked out by a technician or give Yamaha support a call.   
>> Something does not sound right with regard to your Mark IV.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> Bob Colopy wrote:
>>>
>>> You won't be disappointed, Clifford, with the DC3M4t - it is better
>>> than my
>>> expectations. However, I've noticed that when I turn on the  
>>> remote before
>>> the piano has fully loaded it can misbehave. It plays certain  
>>> notes on
>>> playback (on its own - not part of the midi recording) and  
>>> usually they
>>> don't harmonize with the intended piece. Just curious if others  
>>> have the
>>> same problem? It is easy to correct - just reboot and be patient  
>>> making
>>> sure the remote is not turned on too early or too late relative  
>>> to when
>>> the
>>> piano is ready and before it goes into sleep mode.
>>>
>>> Bob

Re: [disklavier] the note is F on DC3M4t

2005-06-30 by Tom Wheeler

Bob,

I agree with Pianobench's comments in his response to you. This is 
definitely a problem that a qualified Yamaha technician should be able 
to solve.  The behavior that you are seeing is not normal for the Mark 
IV and I do not see this at all on my DC3M4t. 

I can understand your desire to protect your Mark IV from electrical 
surges, but I don't think that plugging in and unplugging the Mark IV 
frequently (which requires the Mark IV to reboot each time it is used) 
is the solution.  I would strongly suggest that you purchase a good UPS 
which will protect your Mark IV from power surges, plug the Mark IV into 
a battery backed up outlet on the UPS, and when you have finished 
playing the Mark IV, place it into the sleep mode (green light dimmed) 
and leave it in that state.  This will be, over the long haul, much 
easier on your Mark IV than the constant booting and rebooting. 

I have my Mark IV plugged into a good UPS and I cannot imagine owning 
this instrument without protecting it from power surges with a UPS. 

Tom

Bob Colopy wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> Tom,
>
> I'm not a pianist just love the piano and so play midi files. The last 
> 4 or 5 times I have had company over it has spoiled my "show-off" 
> performance by playing F below middle C randomly and much louder than 
> the rest of the piece during playback - no matter what files I use, 
> including the pieces that come with the piano. However, I can correct 
> the problem by rebooting the system and being very careful on the 
> timing of when I turn on the small remote. But usually when company 
> comes I'm busy hosting so cannot wait and watch for the precise second 
> or two after the green light is on solid and before it dims. If I miss 
> that time slot it does its random note thing which of course is 
> embarrassing for me when trying to demonstrate how great the piano is.
>
> I called technical support who have been excellent. They said it is 
> like any computer even though this is running the Lynx system. When 
> have problems, just reboot. Usually I don't have time with company so 
> just hope they don't notice the random notes but sometimes it is so 
> obvious and I have to explain what happened and that it is not normal 
> e.g. I didn't follow the precise timing on turning on the remote. If 
> I'm the only one with this problem then probably it is not the 
> computer but something to do with cross talk to that particular 
> solenoid. But if that is the case then how come I can avoid the random 
> notes with precise timing when turning on the remote?
>
> I normally keep this expensive piano unplugged so there is no chance 
> that lightning could damage the electronics. It is only plugged in 
> just before I use it - don't know if that has any bearing on it.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Bob
>
>

Uninterruptible Power Supply (UPS) for a Diskalvier

2005-07-02 by Mark

As a computer geek, I have had UPS systems on my computers for years. 
The Disklavier controller and mechanism is just like a computer and 
deserves the same protection. APC makes a UPS that is adequate for a 
Disklavier that one can buy for about $40.00 at CompUSA or Office Depot. 
A size of 350va or greater should do fine. I plugged my Disklavier into 
a UPS the day I got it. In big cities, a bigger issue is brown-outs, 
especially during a hot summer or while an Air Conditioner is turning 
on. A UPS will take care of all these power problems. A premium grade 
UPS also "conditions" or "cleans up" the electric supply. Some of you 
may want to ask the CompUSA tech about the different features a UPS may 
have.

Mark in Idaho

Tom Wheeler wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> Bob,
>
> I agree with Pianobench's comments in his response to you. This is 
> definitely a problem that a qualified Yamaha technician should be able 
> to solve.  The behavior that you are seeing is not normal for the Mark 
> IV and I do not see this at all on my DC3M4t. 
>
> I can understand your desire to protect your Mark IV from electrical 
> surges, but I don't think that plugging in and unplugging the Mark IV 
> frequently (which requires the Mark IV to reboot each time it is used) 
> is the solution.  I would strongly suggest that you purchase a good 
> UPS which will protect your Mark IV from power surges, plug the Mark 
> IV into a battery backed up outlet on the UPS, and when you have 
> finished playing the Mark IV, place it into the sleep mode (green 
> light dimmed) and leave it in that state.  This will be, over the long 
> haul, much easier on your Mark IV than the constant booting and 
> rebooting. 
>
> I have my Mark IV plugged into a good UPS and I cannot imagine owning 
> this instrument without protecting it from power surges with a UPS. 
>
> Tom
>
> Bob Colopy wrote:
>
>> Tom,
>>
>> I'm not a pianist just love the piano and so play midi files. The 
>> last 4 or 5 times I have had company over it has spoiled my 
>> "show-off" performance by playing F below middle C randomly and much 
>> louder than the rest of the piece during playback - no matter what 
>> files I use, including the pieces that come with the piano. However, 
>> I can correct the problem by rebooting the system and being very 
>> careful on the timing of when I turn on the small remote. But usually 
>> when company comes I'm busy hosting so cannot wait and watch for the 
>> precise second or two after the green light is on solid and before it 
>> dims. If I miss that time slot it does its random note thing which of 
>> course is embarrassing for me when trying to demonstrate how great 
>> the piano is.
>>
>> I called technical support who have been excellent. They said it is 
>> like any computer even though this is running the Lynx system. When 
>> have problems, just reboot. Usually I don't have time with company so 
>> just hope they don't notice the random notes but sometimes it is so 
>> obvious and I have to explain what happened and that it is not normal 
>> e.g. I didn't follow the precise timing on turning on the remote. If 
>> I'm the only one with this problem then probably it is not the 
>> computer but something to do with cross talk to that particular 
>> solenoid. But if that is the case then how come I can avoid the 
>> random notes with precise timing when turning on the remote?
>>
>> I normally keep this expensive piano unplugged so there is no chance 
>> that lightning could damage the electronics. It is only plugged in 
>> just before I use it - don't know if that has any bearing on it.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>
>
> To Post a message to the group, send it to:   disklavier@...
>
> To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and 
> moderator, send it to:
> disklavier-owner@...
>
> To reach our group's web site go to:
> http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
>
> Todd's family web site was completely updated 012/22/03.  It contains 
> some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among many other 
> things, The url is:
> http://MuncyFamily.com
>
> THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
> If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much 
> mail, go the the web site and change your email delivery option 
> instead.  That will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to 
> the group.  If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to:
> disklavier-unsubscribe@...
>
> Know someone who wants to join?  Have them send a blank email to:
> disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this link:
> http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
>
>     *  Visit your group "disklavier
>       <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/disklavier>" on the web.
>        
>     *  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>        disklavier-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>       <mailto:disklavier-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe>
>        
>     *  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
>       Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>.
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>

Re: [disklavier] Uninterruptible Power Supply (UPS) for a Diskalvier

2005-07-02 by Danny

From: Mark

<snip>

A premium grade UPS also "conditions" or "cleans up" the electric supply. Some 
of you may want to ask the CompUSA tech about the different features a UPS may 
have.

Mark in Idaho

*************

This is the one thing that gets misunderstood the most when talking about UPS's. 
By far, most of the *commercial* grade UPS's do *not* provide protection for the 
device connected to it (Disklavier in this case) from electrical line power 
(mains) surges or electrical noise. They are used to provide temporary line 
voltage at the correct frequency when line power is disrupted or droops. And 
generally, when line power is disrupted, there is a large associated electrical 
surge when the line power either disappears or when it is restored which can 
pass right through these UPS's.

For protection against electrical line surges and noise, either a fairly high 
grade UPS with excellent filtering is required <or> a off-the-shelf UPS used in 
conjunction with a separate power line filter. There are some power outlet 
strips that have a very limited amount of filtering built in. Some power outlet 
manufacturers advertise they will add $xx worth of insurance if there is any 
electrical damage due to power line surges to a device (Disklavier) which was 
plugged into their outlet strip at the time of an electrical surge. Pretty 
difficult to collect on this insurance from what I have been able to find out so 
far. And most of these strips use MOVs for protection along with a bit of noise 
filtering. This is pretty minimal protection.

For my protection, I use a:
http://www.surgex.com/products/sa15_20.html

along with a commercial UPS.

I am an electrical engineer by trade and have done line-level surge/noise 
testing comparing different methods of protection of devices for customers in 
the past.


Danny

Power Supply for DC3M4t

2005-07-02 by Bob Colopy

Do different versions of the Disklavier e.g. Mark III versus Mark IV or C2 
versus C3 have different power requirements? If you are sure that 350va is 
adequate for DC3M4t  then I'll get it and leave the piano on. This will 
probably solve the problem since when turned on correctly it doesn't do the 
random note thing so as long as it stays on it should be fine. I'll test it 
after the holidays.

Bob

At 11:15 PM 7/1/2005, you wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>As a computer geek, I have had UPS systems on my computers for years.
>The Disklavier controller and mechanism is just like a computer and
>deserves the same protection. APC makes a UPS that is adequate for a
>Disklavier that one can buy for about $40.00 at CompUSA or Office Depot.
>A size of 350va or greater should do fine. I plugged my Disklavier into
>a UPS the day I got it. In big cities, a bigger issue is brown-outs,
>especially during a hot summer or while an Air Conditioner is turning
>on. A UPS will take care of all these power problems. A premium grade
>UPS also "conditions" or "cleans up" the electric supply. Some of you
>may want to ask the CompUSA tech about the different features a UPS may
>have.
>
>Mark in Idaho

Re: [disklavier] Power Supply for DC3M4t

2005-07-02 by Tom Wheeler

Bob,

I have the DC3M4t.  On page 65 of the Advanced Operating Manual the 
power consumption of the DC3M4t is specified to be 180 watts.  When you 
purchase a UPS, you simply need to ensure by reading the specifications 
of the UPS that it will e able to supply 180 watts.  The power output 
wattage of any good UPS is always stated on the back of the UPS and 
usually on the box the UPS comes in.  A 250 watt UPS (quite a small one 
actually) will do nicely for your DC3M4t.  It is important to also 
ensure that the UPS provides voltage stabilization circuitry which will 
keep the voltage at nominal levels during power brownouts. Again, most 
UPS manufacturers include this on their units today.  Here are web sites 
to two very good manufacturers of UPS units: 
http://cyberpowersystems.com/ and http://www.apcc.com/index.cfm.  
Specific models by Cyberpower that would  provide protection for your 
DC3M4t include the APC ES500 (list price $60) or the Cyberpower Model 
550AE (also ($60).  This units are available at CompUSA and BestBuy 
respectively, as well as numerous other vendors. 

Tom

Bob Colopy wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>Do different versions of the Disklavier e.g. Mark III versus Mark IV or C2 
>versus C3 have different power requirements? If you are sure that 350va is 
>adequate for DC3M4t  then I'll get it and leave the piano on. This will 
>probably solve the problem since when turned on correctly it doesn't do the 
>random note thing so as long as it stays on it should be fine. I'll test it 
>after the holidays.
>
>Bob
>
>At 11:15 PM 7/1/2005, you wrote:
>  
>
>>As a computer geek, I have had UPS systems on my computers for years.
>>The Disklavier controller and mechanism is just like a computer and
>>deserves the same protection. APC makes a UPS that is adequate for a
>>Disklavier that one can buy for about $40.00 at CompUSA or Office Depot.
>>A size of 350va or greater should do fine. I plugged my Disklavier into
>>a UPS the day I got it. In big cities, a bigger issue is brown-outs,
>>especially during a hot summer or while an Air Conditioner is turning
>>on. A UPS will take care of all these power problems. A premium grade
>>UPS also "conditions" or "cleans up" the electric supply. Some of you
>>may want to ask the CompUSA tech about the different features a UPS may
>>have.
>>
>>Mark in Idaho
>>    
>>
>
>
>
>To Post a message to the group, send it to:   disklavier@...
>
>To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and moderator, send it to:
>disklavier-owner@...
>
>To reach our group's web site go to:
>http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
>
>Todd's family web site was completely updated 012/22/03.  It contains some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among many other things, The url is:
>http://MuncyFamily.com 
>
>THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
>If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail, go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead.  That will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group.  If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to:
>disklavier-unsubscribe@... 
>
>Know someone who wants to join?  Have them send a blank email to:
>disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this link:
>http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join 
> 
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
>  
>

Re: [disklavier] Power Supply for DC3M4t

2005-07-02 by Mark

The Disklavier does not use a lot of power when it is idle. I would 
check the documentation of the particular Disklavier for the power 
requirements of the control unit. I just checked my manuals and power 
requirements are not listed. Something I find important in selecting a 
UPS  is the Equipment Protection Guarantee. My APC ups has a Lifetime 
Connected Equipment Protection provision that covers up to $25,000. I 
just looked on my XG Mark II and it say 120 watts. The speaker power 
supply is 22 watts. The 350 va UPS is equivalent to 225 watts. I 
submitted a question to APC at APCC.COM Maybe they will reply to the group.

Mark in Idaho

Bob Colopy wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> Do different versions of the Disklavier e.g. Mark III versus Mark IV 
> or C2
> versus C3 have different power requirements? If you are sure that 
> 350va is
> adequate for DC3M4t  then I'll get it and leave the piano on. This will
> probably solve the problem since when turned on correctly it doesn't 
> do the
> random note thing so as long as it stays on it should be fine. I'll 
> test it
> after the holidays.
>
> Bob
>
> At 11:15 PM 7/1/2005, you wrote:
> >As a computer geek, I have had UPS systems on my computers for years.
> >The Disklavier controller and mechanism is just like a computer and
> >deserves the same protection. APC makes a UPS that is adequate for a
> >Disklavier that one can buy for about $40.00 at CompUSA or Office Depot.
> >A size of 350va or greater should do fine. I plugged my Disklavier into
> >a UPS the day I got it. In big cities, a bigger issue is brown-outs,
> >especially during a hot summer or while an Air Conditioner is turning
> >on. A UPS will take care of all these power problems. A premium grade
> >UPS also "conditions" or "cleans up" the electric supply. Some of you
> >may want to ask the CompUSA tech about the different features a UPS may
> >have.
> >
> >Mark in Idaho
>
>
>
> To Post a message to the group, send it to:   disklavier@...
>
> To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and 
> moderator, send it to:
> disklavier-owner@...
>
> To reach our group's web site go to:
> http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
>
> Todd's family web site was completely updated 012/22/03.  It contains 
> some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among many other 
> things, The url is:
> http://MuncyFamily.com
>
> THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
> If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much 
> mail, go the the web site and change your email delivery option 
> instead.  That will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to 
> the group.  If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to:
> disklavier-unsubscribe@...
>
> Know someone who wants to join?  Have them send a blank email to:
> disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this link:
> http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
>
>     *  Visit your group "disklavier
>       <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/disklavier>" on the web.
>        
>     *  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>        disklavier-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>       <mailto:disklavier-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe>
>        
>     *  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
>       Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>.
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>

Re: Hello EVERYONE!!!

2005-07-03 by abus500

Thank you all for the warm, hearty welcome =) 

I found that I can get the delivery of the piano anytime after this 
coming saturday. Unfortunately, I am out of town until the last week 
of July, so they are storing it in the crate until I get back from my 
business trip... I can't tell you how anxious I am.

I was curious. When purchasing the piano, I noticed that the pricing 
was VERY different with every location I went to. I also noticed that 
the profit margin for these dealers are immense. I live in the San 
Francisco Bay area and went to 4 different dealers, with pricing 
ranging from $55,000 for the DC3M4t to about $40,000 at initial 
quote. I ended up finding a dealer, recommended by Yamaha Corporate 
as well, for just over $30,000 after tax, making the piano around 
$28k... It seems worst than shopping for cars. I mean a difference of 
over $27,000 for the piano. Of course it is new, in crate, and 
includes 2 tuneups, home install, and full warranty registered with 
yamaha. (I arranged so that the crate will be opened upon my arrival 
to make certain that it is not a demo piano or used)

Is that a good deal? or am I being ripped off? I can cancel before I 
take delivery if I choose to. For those of you who purchased the 
DC3M4t, can I ask how much it cost you? or what a good number is?

(i am new to this type of purchase and am a little uncertain as to 
the valuation of such merchandise)

Re: the note is F on DC3M4t

2005-07-03 by abus500

I also spoke to the dealer where I am purchasing the DC3M4t regarding 
the offkey/off harmony issue you were all describing. 

I was told that should the piano go off, there is a self 
diagnostic/recalibration command on the unit itself. Something about 
holding two buttons on boot that will reallign the system and reset 
the software's synthesizing process. I was then told that I will get 
that information when the piano is delivered as the tech can help 
show me should the problem arise. 

I am guessing that the sales person doesn't know which keys to push 
to get that to take place. But the tech might. When I find out, I 
will let you all know. If you all find out before hand =) would love 
to know before delivery =)

Thanx ALL!

oh. about the UPCs for the disklavier, does it differ between the 
ones rated for entertainment systems and for computers? which are you 
all using? I would think the ones for computers would be more 
applicable, but the tech @ compusa said that he would use the 
entertainment system versions since it has AVR automatic voltage 
regulators, to prevent burnouts and over-voltage. Wouldn't you think 
that computer UPC have that too? not sure which I should buy so that 
I can protect my investments.

Re: [disklavier] Re: the note is F on DC3M4t

2005-07-05 by Bob Colopy

It did its random note thing again this holiday so I rebooted it and left 
it on - connected through a surge protector (still plan to buy a UPS once 
there is consensus on the technical requirements to protect from 
lightning). There was no problem - as long as you left it on and simply 
woke it up when ready to play. BTW, I was wrong, it was not "F" but "F#" 
below middle C. Also, I don't think it has anything to do with 
recalibration. It is the only note misbehaving.
Bob

At 04:23 PM 7/3/2005, you wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>I also spoke to the dealer where I am purchasing the DC3M4t regarding
>the offkey/off harmony issue you were all describing.
>
>I was told that should the piano go off, there is a self
>diagnostic/recalibration command on the unit itself. Something about
>holding two buttons on boot that will reallign the system and reset
>the software's synthesizing process. I was then told that I will get
>that information when the piano is delivered as the tech can help
>show me should the problem arise.
>
>I am guessing that the sales person doesn't know which keys to push
>to get that to take place. But the tech might. When I find out, I
>will let you all know. If you all find out before hand =) would love
>to know before delivery =)
>
>Thanx ALL!
>
>oh. about the UPCs for the disklavier, does it differ between the
>ones rated for entertainment systems and for computers? which are you
>all using? I would think the ones for computers would be more
>applicable, but the tech @ compusa said that he would use the
>entertainment system versions since it has AVR automatic voltage
>regulators, to prevent burnouts and over-voltage. Wouldn't you think
>that computer UPC have that too? not sure which I should buy so that
>I can protect my investments.
>
>

Move to quarantaine

This moves the raw source file on disk only. The archive index is not changed automatically, so you still need to run a manual refresh afterward.