Elektron Musical Instruments

thanks to everyone who replied in my previous post.
i have some more questions though:

.when playing back a pattern, can you simultaneously trigger 
additional notes from an external sequencer or midi keyboard?

.does the MD receive program change for selecting kits?
 do the kits load instantly or do you wait for some time?

.on startup, is the MD as it was when shut down?(global setup, and 
the kit last used, or do you have to load a kit each time you 
startup?)

.when triggering patterns via midi notes, does the MD respond 
instantly? (like triggering a sample)or do you have latency?

.does it sync to MTC? or only midi clocks ?

.are the lfo 's fast enough to be used on very short percussion 
sounds? or are they useable only on sounds with a big decay?

thanks in advance for anyone who answers!
be good.

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "fotofono" <ar98043@m...> 
wrote:
> .when playing back a pattern, can you simultaneously trigger 
> additional notes from an external sequencer or midi keyboard?

yes, no problem.

> 
> .does the MD receive program change for selecting kits?
>  do the kits load instantly or do you wait for some time?

Hmm, never tried it, don't know if it's possible either.....

> 
> .on startup, is the MD as it was when shut down?(global setup, and 
> the kit last used, or do you have to load a kit each time you 
> startup?)

Yes. But kit settings are as last saved.(i think...)
Save a lot, that's the key.
When you accidently change pattern with a different kit youre changes 
are lost forever! Elektron has confirmed this.

> 
> .when triggering patterns via midi notes, does the MD respond 
> instantly? (like triggering a sample)or do you have latency?

Yes, so you can start patterns or retrigger them whenever you want 
with no apperent latency.
But!! I tried it and i got double first notes when triggering the 
same pattern at the beginning of a measure. I haven't found a 
solution for this and Elektron didn't or couldn't help me with this 
one.

> 
> .does it sync to MTC? or only midi clocks ?
> 

Yes

> .are the lfo 's fast enough to be used on very short percussion 
> sounds? or are they useable only on sounds with a big decay?
> 

Yes, very fast. Not very, very slow (to bad)

> thanks in advance for anyone who answers!
> be good.

On tip from a very happy user:
Use the machine's internal sequencer synced to whatever.
It's at it's best then.
The parameter locks are very powerfull!!!
Just buy it, after some time you'll be hooked.
I know some people who sold their MD after some time just because 
they didn't spend enough time exploring the true power of this 
machine.

Grtz. Ronald.

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Ronald" <info@r...> wrote:
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "fotofono" <ar98043@m...> 
> wrote:
> > .does the MD receive program change for selecting kits?
> >  do the kits load instantly or do you wait for some time?
> 
> Hmm, never tried it, don't know if it's possible either.....

  I don't believe you can load kits via a MIDI message; however, you 
can change patterns, and in Extended mode patterns are tied to a 
kit.  I use this feature very often.  The new pattern loads 
immediately when the current pattern is done playing, with absolutely 
no latency between them.

The MD responds to standard program change messages on its base 
channel, only. (Using these is actually the fastest way to flip through a 
bunch of kits, if, say,  you've forgotten what that kit has the BD you're 
looking for).

-Andrew Denyes
re: where are we? Seattle, WA, USA!

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From: Mind Mechanic
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 19:43:28 -0000

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Ronald" <info@r...> wrote:
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "fotofono" <ar98043@m...> 
> wrote:
> > .does the MD receive program change for selecting kits?
> >  do the kits load instantly or do you wait for some time?
> 
> Hmm, never tried it, don't know if it's possible either.....

  I don't believe you can load kits via a MIDI message; however, you 
can change patterns, and in Extended mode patterns are tied to a 
kit.  I use this feature very often.  The new pattern loads 
immediately when the current pattern is done playing, with absolutely 
no latency between them.


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Someone said if you changed the kit without saving, you lose what you 
didn't save.  Not true.  Use the buffer save.  It is the first in the 
kit load menu. 

The lfos are quite fast.  They made it as a drum machine foremost.  
Most of the parameters are for short envelopes.  Did we forget to 
mention you can use the lfos on other gear?  

Someone said how they feel sad for the people who dismiss the thing.  
I'm just figuring out the parameters in the master effects section.  I 
had it for about a year.  

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "fotofono" <ar98043@m...> 
wrote:

> thanks to everyone who replied in my previous post.
> i have some more questions though:
> 
> .when playing back a pattern, can you simultaneously trigger 
> additional notes from an external sequencer or midi keyboard?
> 
> .does the MD receive program change for selecting kits?
>  do the kits load instantly or do you wait for some time?
> 
> .on startup, is the MD as it was when shut down?(global setup, and 
> the kit last used, or do you have to load a kit each time you 
> startup?)
> 
> .when triggering patterns via midi notes, does the MD respond 
> instantly? (like triggering a sample)or do you have latency?
> 
> .does it sync to MTC? or only midi clocks ?
> 
> .are the lfo 's fast enough to be used on very short percussion 
> sounds? or are they useable only on sounds with a big decay?
> 
> thanks in advance for anyone who answers!
> be good.

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "endlessnessisticman"
<endlessnessisticman@y...> wrote:
> Someone said if you changed the kit without saving, you lose what 
> you 
> didn't save.  Not true.  Use the buffer save.  It is the first in 
> the 
> kit load menu.

someone also said that if you don't save and you shutdown, then your
kit settings are lost; which is untrue. they're *only* lost if you
change kits before saving any changes. but as you said, they can still
be restored from the buffer save (undo kit).

in short...when you power it up, the MD is *exactly* like you left it 
before you shut it down (which I think was the original question).
 
> The lfos are quite fast.

yes, but they're syncable to the sequencer; which is nice :-)

> They made it as a drum machine foremost.  

but it still functions well as a synth + general purpose electronic
fantastic noise maker.
  
> Someone said how they feel sad for the people who dismiss the thing.  
> I'm just figuring out the parameters in the master effects section.  
> I 
> had it for about a year.  

I really need to get into those as well.  I've explored the reverb and
delay engines in depth (and with a large smile on my face) and I now
use the EQ instead of external EQ.  but I haven't done anything with
the compressor yet; mainly because I don't know anything about
compressors :-)

Joe.

Hi folks,
I have just purchased a used Sidstation which is currently on its way 
to me.

The former owner made the comment that he bought a new Radioshack 
adapter for it because the Elektron adapters were not good quality and 
caused crackling. Is this true? Or is he just making an excuse for the 
non-original adapter?

Does Elektron sell the Sidstation adapters separately? I couldn't find 
them on the web site.

Thanks!
-V

--- Joe <jmelnyk@...> wrote: 
---------------------------------
in short...when you power it up, the MD is *exactly*
like you left it 
before you shut it down (which I think was the
original question).
---------------------------------

not quite so in my experience. I have found that if I 
shut it down while in pattern mode, then what you say
is true... but if I shut it down while in song mode,
then it reboots in pattern mode, set to pattern A01. 

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--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, not known <spectralab1@y...> wrote:
> not quite so in my experience. I have found that if I 
> shut it down while in pattern mode, then what you say
> is true... but if I shut it down while in song mode,
> then it reboots in pattern mode, set to pattern A01. 

Ahhh...OK.  I usually don't work in song mode; so I forgot to consider
this case when I made my statement. that's interesting that it doest
that, though.

Joe.

When Elektron first sold the SidStation they didn't have a 115Vac adapter for the USA so you had to buy your own here.  I have a Radio-Shack adapter on mine that is rated at 800mA, twice the current rating of the factory unit.  It works fine.  I wouldn't worry about power adapters; just use one with a filtered output.  They're all made in China so units don't vary too much.  One with at least a 400mA rating is recommended.

Ivan

> I really need to get into those as well.  I've explored the reverb and
> delay engines in depth (and with a large smile on my face) and I now
> use the EQ instead of external EQ.  but I haven't done anything with
> the compressor yet; mainly because I don't know anything about
> compressors :-)

too bad :-P

the compressor on the MD will make your beats "punch" trough a mix and 
give consistency to hats and snares.
try it with short attack, long release, hard knee, hp set so that the 
bd doesn't influence the compressor.

adjust the gain parameter to compensate for the loss of volume.

you won't regret it :-)