Elektron Musical Instruments

Anyone heard the single "Viva 6581" from Tarmvred? It's great! Does 
he use Elektron gear? Okay, the SID can be reproduced with a C64 or 
QuadraSID software, but the drums sound pretty "Elektron" I think.

yeah! a cool thing, probly my fav by him ... i don't know tho, i've 
heard a lot more interesting and rocking chip-based stuff . . . so it 
seemed a little gimicky, but still real fun. but speaking of entirely 
rocking music, i really enjoyed t. raumschmiere's radio  black 
out  . ... 

this list is super active with users talking about features and bugs, 
but i havn't seen a lot of people sharing their music . . . is it 
mostly people on labels in here or what (with the price of the 
products i imagine it's mostly serious producers)? i just make music 
for fun and release it on the internet and cdr/tape labels all the 
time. anyone else?

also, what kinds of music are people making with the monomachine? is 
it primarily IDM/techno/hiphop??? any classical/theory-
oriented/experimental composers? are you using you monomachines and 
machinedrums as part of a full-fledged studio or as a stand-alone 
workstation? 

i like how elektron has created products so close to the huge old 
systems people were filling up rooms at universities with in the 60s, 
i can only imagine babit creaming himself over how musical and easy 
to use these things are ;D

ok i feel like that's enough questions and things, looking forward to 
hearing from everyone!

j.ordan

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "davveknas" <davan839@s...> 
wrote:

> Anyone heard the single "Viva 6581" from Tarmvred? It's great! Does 
> he use Elektron gear? Okay, the SID can be reproduced with a C64 or 
> QuadraSID software, but the drums sound pretty "Elektron" I think.

I wouldn't call myself a professional musician, but it's certainly the 
only thing I do with my free time.  I am not signed to a label, and 
don't want to be... I'm waiting to see how the P2P / online stores 
(iTunes, bleep.com) / etc shake out before sending demos in, as I'm of 
the belief that there may be better choices than getting with a label 
for independents to release their music soon.  I'm pretty terrified at 
the sort of 'benefits' peers of mine have had to deal with who've been 
signed to labels who care about them but don't have the manpower / 
resources / ability / mind to combat the piracy happening to electronic 
musicians right now (this community is hit hardest, as so many of the 
indy electronic labels and musicians are living inches from the line as 
it is, financially, and the audience is largely folk who also have the 
convenience of Kazaa / SoulSeek / etc at their fingertips, baiting 
their ethics with convenient downloads.

Sort of a pickle of a situation... small electronic labels have issues 
with distribution, so fans have problems finding albums, so they turn 
online to download them as they need to, unfortunately then the labels 
don't get money, which leads to not having resources to increase 
distribution... it's a very difficult time.

Sorry to soap box / go on on this.  It's something I've been thinking 
about and talking to folks about a lot lately.

As for the style of music, I love theory... I use my elektron gear for 
everything I do.  The machinedrum and monomachine are often my 
inspiration points... I always start there or on my modular.  It's so 
easy to take a basic idea and play with it in many variations where 
only the ears can be trusted (no computer screen) using the Elektron 
gear that I despise starting work in the DAW now... even if everything 
ends up there for the 'real' composition work.

As for styles... well, I'd hate to be forced to put a label on myself.  
Maybe another reason why I fear labels.  ;-]

Cheers,

Damon

On Friday, February 13, 2004, at 01:31 PM, starpawz612 wrote:

> this list is super active with users talking about features and bugs,
> but i havn't seen a lot of people sharing their music . . . is it
> mostly people on labels in here or what (with the price of the
> products i imagine it's mostly serious producers)? i just make music
> for fun and release it on the internet and cdr/tape labels all the
> time. anyone else?
>
> also, what kinds of music are people making with the monomachine? is
> it primarily IDM/techno/hiphop??? any classical/theory-
> oriented/experimental composers? are you using you monomachines and
> machinedrums as part of a full-fledged studio or as a stand-alone
> workstation?
>
> ok i feel like that's enough questions and things, looking forward to
> hearing from everyone!
>
> j.ordan
>

Now that I got the Monomachine, I realise how good the Machindrum 
must be. I MUST have it! Now I have my Mono controlling a Yamaha 
CS6x. I do the drums on the Mono for inspiration, but when it gets 
down to the mix, I replace them for Reason drums.

I'm no professional. Mainly I do synthpop. Often it's been only 
instrumental, but now I've hooked up with a girl that is to sing on 
some tracks. Right now I'm making some songs for her to sing in, and 
writing lyrics.

Perhaps I'll release an album on a small label, perhaps some hundred 
copies. But first I need to tame that Mono! She's (well, I!) always 
freaks out after a while! The sounds you can make are often too crazy 
for real mixes!

> ok i feel like that's enough questions and things, looking forward to
> hearing from everyone!
>
> j.ordan

For more info about me: www.roonan.nl
Some of my latest tunes on MD and MM;
http://roonan.fiberworld.nl/Demo/Roonan-Demo-2003-002.mp3
http://roonan.fiberworld.nl/Demo/Roonan-Demo-2003-003.mp3
(these are a few weeks old so most of you already know them, new material is
coming soon)

Ronald.

I'm glad that someone brought up the issue of sharing each other's music.  I
do think that it would be fun to hear what everyone is doing with elektron
machines...or even just what people are thinking about who have bought these
machines.

I'm perfectly willing to compile a list of links and put it up at my web
site on its own page (eyekhan.com/elektron) or on yahoo's (if that is
possible-I don't know how to do that).

If you are interested please email me off list, and if there is enough
interest, I will start to put it together.

Maybe it will lead to interesting collaborations?

John
ear@...

From: "Ronald Vonk (Roonan)" <info@...>
Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 14:15:18 +0100
To: <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [elektron] Re: Tarmvred's latest single


> ok i feel like that's enough questions and things, looking forward to
> hearing from everyone!
>
> j.ordan

For more info about me: www.roonan.nl
Some of my latest tunes on MD and MM;
http://roonan.fiberworld.nl/Demo/Roonan-Demo-2003-002.mp3
http://roonan.fiberworld.nl/Demo/Roonan-Demo-2003-003.mp3
(these are a few weeks old so most of you already know them, new material is
coming soon)

Ronald.







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Tarmvred is nice.
I have to hear that song now :).

I have a machinedrum and I haven't finished a song yet...meh...
I still haven't found the sound and style I feel most comfortable 
with...but I am stubborn and willing to make progress.
Probably some kind of dark Electro blip with lyrics...I sing ok and I 
have a white cat so it should be just a matter of time before I 
finish a song :D

conrexrecords.com/scutopus for some of my MD/SID work. 

all links involve this setup (so far). 

i recommend the track "flirt" if you have the bandwidth. 

"bog tooth" from gangion rot is also good.

the "live at balls to the wall" set is elektron gear + max/msp 
processing by my friend = pure insanity.

That dodge ball crap is crazy.  I'll listen to some more.  Almost 
reminds me of Detroit.  Original, love it.

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "scutopus" <scutopus@y...> 
wrote:

> conrexrecords.com/scutopus for some of my MD/SID work. 
> 
> all links involve this setup (so far). 
> 
> i recommend the track "flirt" if you have the bandwidth. 
> 
> "bog tooth" from gangion rot is also good.
> 
> the "live at balls to the wall" set is elektron gear + max/msp 
> processing by my friend = pure insanity.

hi all, good to hear some responses!!

i've only had a chance yet to check roonan's mp3z, nice stuff man! i 
understand they're just demos so i won't crit much, but the synthesis 
is really great and you've got great taste in pattern structure and 
track composition. the only thing i don't like is the echoed lady's 
voice twords the end of 003. it sounds like you're having fun w/ your 
machines, and i'm glad yorr tunez are a lot better than your 
site ;D ... are you using song mode for these? the local elektron rep 
guy says he uses almost exclusivly live mode on his md. 

conrex records??? is that a net label??? i havn't heard of it before, 
but looks good, leeching that shit ... i run a mailing list for net 
labels to post their releases 2 (netlabelreleases@yahoogroups.com

mr d. (?) from boulder (sorry, internet is really slow right now) ... 
i'm very interested in how your performance comes out, looking 
forward to the mixdown!

being a hardsid owner + gameboy producer right now, i feel kind of 
silly having interest in a very expensive machine that emulates 
another chip ... and comming from tracking i wonder if i'll feel 
cheezy with the experience of hacking at a 16stepper w/ knobs rather 
than my lines of lines . . .

on the other hand, what attracts me so much to elektron gear is the 
sequencer and how tigtly it is tied with the sound generators. in my 
mind, that makes the monomachine a prime platform for a chip-minded 
composer .... 6 channels of monophonic polyphany sounds real good to 
me, i don't understand all this 24 voice talk, i'm used to milking 
chords with arpeg, love it or leave it!!! 

same goes for the person who said the monomachine sounds like a 
digital softsynth ... guess what, it is ;D ... DSP? heh. elektron 
gave plenty of outputs for you to run the thing through your ms20 
filter and tube amps if u want to? i would rather have that sort of 
set up than some fragile tubes built into my 1000$ machine (esx1 :O )

hmm , so yeah, if i got a monomachine i'd probobly be using just 
that ... maybe synched to my gameboy and a controler kb of some sort 
(cz101 or bass station catching my eye right now, any one have other 
favortite for other portable/small midi synth/samplers? ;) ... 

ok! <3
j.ordan

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "endlessnessisticman" 
<endlessnessisticman@y...> wrote:

> That dodge ball crap is crazy.  I'll listen to some more.  Almost 
> reminds me of Detroit.  Original, love it.
> 
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "scutopus" <scutopus@y...> 
> wrote:
> > conrexrecords.com/scutopus for some of my MD/SID work. 
> > 
> > all links involve this setup (so far). 
> > 
> > i recommend the track "flirt" if you have the bandwidth. 
> > 
> > "bog tooth" from gangion rot is also good.
> > 
> > the "live at balls to the wall" set is elektron gear + max/msp 
> > processing by my friend = pure insanity.

On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 05:40:43AM -0000, starpawz612 wrote:
>    and comming from tracking i wonder if i'll feel
>    cheezy with the experience of hacking at a 16stepper w/ knobs rather
>    than my lines of lines . . .

the MD and MnM have a tracker-like interface for their song sequencers.
you program them row-by-row; with each row being a pattern with mutes, step
starting position, length and transpose all specified (actually a row
can also be a loop or jump point to move to other rows). but when you
play them back it just steps down through the rows and you can change
the row its playing on the fly.

I believe that's somewhat similar to what you're used to. but I don't
know, I can never get a hold of the gameboy carts that allow music
creation. I've heard great things about LSDJ but making a cart is a
pain and I've heard mixed reviews of nanoloop so I've avoided that.
I hope to play with them someday, though.

Joe

joe,

yeah, when i was reading the MD + MM manuals i thought that looked 
pretty cool!

LSDj is what i use, and yeah cart writing is a bit of a bitch to get 
into. a lot less so now that GBA carts are readily avalible . . . and 
there has always been the demo of the program which is fully 
functional if you use it in an emulator (can get from 
www.littlesounddj.com) ... LSDj is actually my fav tracker ever, the 
song sequencing is a little different than the typical tracker list 
you describe ... it is a similar list 4 channels wide, and you can 
place parts of any length next to each other on each one (kind of 
like buzz tracker if anyone is familiar?)

also i ment to ask roonan, are you using effects or mastering on the 
machines you list? again, very nice sounds ;D

j.ordan

> 
> I believe that's somewhat similar to what you're used to. but I 
don't

> know, I can never get a hold of the gameboy carts that allow music
> creation. I've heard great things about LSDJ but making a cart is a
> pain and I've heard mixed reviews of nanoloop so I've avoided that.
> I hope to play with them someday, though.
> 
> Joe

>From: "starpawz612" <starpawz612@...>
>
>also i ment to ask roonan, are you using effects or mastering on the 
>machines you list? again, very nice sounds ;D
>
>j.ordan

I use Kaosspad II and Sherman filterbank on some parts, but most sounds
are clean from the MD and MM and for mastering I only used a little EQ
and a maximizer.

Ronald.

Hi everyone,

I have posted some tracks on my website .

Only monomachine , machinedrum and sidstation are used .

www.psience.co.uk

marc

On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 19:18:09 +0000, marc davidson wrote:
>Only monomachine , machinedrum and sidstation are used .
>www.psience.co.uk

Really? What is that noise that sounds like granulated voices on track 11-terror eyes?
-Andrew D.

Yeah, I was wondering the same.  Can't imagine this is exclusively 
Elektron hardware.

On Wednesday, February 18, 2004, at 11:48 AM, Andr00 wrote:

> On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 19:18:09 +0000, marc davidson wrote:
>> Only monomachine , machinedrum and sidstation are used .
>> www.psience.co.uk
>
> Really? What is that noise that sounds like granulated voices on track 
> 11-terror eyes?
> -Andrew D.
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Ahem..

c'mon guys ...that's clearly a voice...a transposition derived from the
empire state building elevator ( oct 2000 ) if you really want to know... 
on a sony dictaphone...

I didn't feel it was necessary to include this fact but if people want to be
more informed then ok .


Everything on the site APART from this voice ...blah blah.

Thanks for your comments..

marc

-----Original Message-----
From: Damon Menne [mailto:damon@...] 
Sent: 18 February 2004 19:55
To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [elektron] elektron-ik sounds

Yeah, I was wondering the same.  Can't imagine this is exclusively 
Elektron hardware.

On Wednesday, February 18, 2004, at 11:48 AM, Andr00 wrote:

> On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 19:18:09 +0000, marc davidson wrote:
>> Only monomachine , machinedrum and sidstation are used .
>> www.psience.co.uk
>
> Really? What is that noise that sounds like granulated voices on track 
> 11-terror eyes?
> -Andrew D.
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--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "davveknas" <davan839@s...> wrote:
> Anyone heard the single "Viva 6581" from Tarmvred? It's great! Does 
> he use Elektron gear? Okay, the SID can be reproduced with a C64 or 
> QuadraSID software, but the drums sound pretty "Elektron" I think.

That was an awesome CD... especially the first two tracks.

He had a Sidstation on his 2002 tour , but when I encountered him on his 2003 tour, 
he said that he was using Quadrasid because something was wrong with his 
Sidstation. It looked like the whole show was run from a laptop, but it was a wonderful 
performance anyway.

[plug] Tarmvred also has a SID-heavy track on Mile 329's "don't touch my car!!" 
compilation, continuing his great tradition of mixing VGM and heavy, broken 
rhythm.... maybe just a little bit heavier and darker than his 6581 CD. This 
compilation also features excellent 8-bit material from Skincage and Isv 
(exploring the possibilities of circuit-bent casio keyboards in the artists' established 
song structures) and Naked Intruder (mixing atari 2600, NES 2A03, and Casio SK-1), 
as well as a healthy selection of heavily structured industrial music from veteran 
musicians and newcomers. Just $10 USD from http://www.mile329.org/ .

There are a bunch of other Tarmvred compilation tracks with a lot of SID that I really 
like... the appearances on Force of Nature's "Dark Transmissions" and the "Zombie 
Commandos From Hell" soundtrack are great.

What concerned me less was what you used anyway.  I liked the site! 
Plus, it's all about the music.  Gonna listen to more now that I'm home.

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "marc s. davidson" <psi@p...>
wrote:
> Ahem..
> 
> c'mon guys ...that's clearly a voice...a transposition derived from the
> empire state building elevator ( oct 2000 ) if you really want to
know... 
> on a sony dictaphone...
> 
> I didn't feel it was necessary to include this fact but if people
want to be
> more informed then ok .
> 
> 
> Everything on the site APART from this voice ...blah blah.
> 
> Thanks for your comments..
> 
> marc
> 
> 
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Damon Menne [mailto:damon@m...] 
> Sent: 18 February 2004 19:55
> To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [elektron] elektron-ik sounds
> 
> Yeah, I was wondering the same.  Can't imagine this is exclusively 
> Elektron hardware.
> 
> On Wednesday, February 18, 2004, at 11:48 AM, Andr00 wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 19:18:09 +0000, marc davidson wrote:
> >> Only monomachine , machinedrum and sidstation are used .
> >> www.psience.co.uk
> >
> > Really? What is that noise that sounds like granulated voices on
track 

> > 11-terror eyes?
> > -Andrew D.
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I like it alot. Keep up the good work.

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--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, marc davidson <psi@p...> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> 
> I have posted some tracks on my website .
> 
> Only monomachine , machinedrum and sidstation are used .
> 
> www.psience.co.uk
> 
> marc

On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 07:18:09PM +0000, marc davidson wrote:
>    I have posted some tracks on my website .
>    Only monomachine , machinedrum and sidstation are used .
>    www.psience.co.uk

I dug them a lot!  Are these track excerpts or are they full-lengths
(they seem pretty short)?  Do you have anything formally released?

By the way, I had to immediately swipe your radio.blog :-)  It's a very
cool feature; so I'm going to have to incorporate it into my site.

Anyway, thanks for sharing the tracks!

Joe

Oops! I guess I took your claim too literally. "How on earth did he make this sound with elektron gear?" I thought.

You never know when someone will share a new VO+ technique with the group!
-Andrew D.

On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 23:53:35 -0000, marc s. davidson wrote:

>Ahem..
>
>c'mon guys ...that's clearly a voice...a transposition derived from the
>empire state building elevator ( oct 2000 ) if you really want to know... 
>on a sony dictaphone...
>
>I didn't feel it was necessary to include this fact but if people want to be
>more informed then ok .
>
>
>Everything on the site APART from this voice ...blah blah.
>
>Thanks for your comments..
>
>marc
>
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>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Damon Menne [mailto:damon@...] 
>Sent: 18 February 2004 19:55
>To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [elektron] elektron-ik sounds
>
>Yeah, I was wondering the same.  Can't imagine this is exclusively 
>Elektron hardware.
>
>On Wednesday, February 18, 2004, at 11:48 AM, Andr00 wrote:
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>> On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 19:18:09 +0000, marc davidson wrote:
>>> Only monomachine , machinedrum and sidstation are used .
>>> www.psience.co.uk
>>
>> Really? What is that noise that sounds like granulated voices on track 
>> 11-terror eyes?
>> -Andrew D.
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hello 
i want to sell a nearly new monomchine for 1200,- . i can also make pictures
of the machine and im laceted in germany
stefan

Hi ,

Thanks for the positive feedback for the tracks on my site www.psience.co.uk

The tracks are short but I will be continually updating the playlist.
I do not have anything formally released ( yet ).
Glad you like the radio.blog it’s a nice way to stream things from your site
( and it free ! ).
Sorry about the delay in replying but I have been without my computer this
weekend .

All the best .

Marc

Thanks for listening...

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From: Joe [mailto:jmelnyk@...] 
Sent: 19 February 2004 15:01
To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [elektron] elektron-ik sounds

On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 07:18:09PM +0000, marc davidson wrote:
>    I have posted some tracks on my website .
>    Only monomachine , machinedrum and sidstation are used .
>    www.psience.co.uk

I dug them a lot!  Are these track excerpts or are they full-lengths
(they seem pretty short)?  Do you have anything formally released?

By the way, I had to immediately swipe your radio.blog :-)  It's a very
cool feature; so I'm going to have to incorporate it into my site.

Anyway, thanks for sharing the tracks!

Joe


 
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