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Re: RS422 fun

2008-11-24 by esynthesist

Tristan, Actually I only tried the Emax-- PC bank transfer, so I can t say anything about the other direction yet. So concerning the Emax- PC transfer: in fact

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Re: [emax] Re: RS422 fun

2008-11-24 by mr julian

... it s just using a standard windows USB serial port driver so far. in this case, you ll see it just as a normal USB serial port... if it needs something

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Re: [emax] Re: RS422 fun

2008-11-24 by tu@...

Thanks, this protocol makes sense. No doubt Emu did it this way so they could reuse the SDS sample dump code. Can you confirm that the Emax always waits for an

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Re: RS422 fun

2008-11-23 by esynthesist

Something I forgot in the communication specs: - The 31.25 kbaud communication is 1 startbit, 8 databits, 1 stopbit, no parity - The 500 kbaud communication is

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Re: RS422 fun

2008-11-23 by esynthesist

O yes, the protocol. It s really simple in fact. It s based on MMA as it has been described in the MIDI SYSEX v3.0 docs of Emu. It s just that the Get Bank

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Re[2]: [emax] Re: RS422 fun

2008-11-23 by tu@...

If the Emax bank dump protocol uses the same format as the MMA SDS data packet then each packet only requires 127 bytes. That should not be too difficult to

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Re: [emax] Re: RS422 fun

2008-11-23 by tu@...

Don t lose heart. It looks like Julian may be able to put together a USB to synchronous RS422 port adapter which would solve this problem. If not, there

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Re[2]: [emax] Re: RS422 fun

2008-11-23 by tu@...

Sorry, maybe there was some confusion. I was referring to using the DSO for investigating the waveforms of the RS422 signal, not for analysing the protocol.

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Re: [emax] Re: RS422 fun

2008-11-23 by tu@...

... Yes, the unconnected clock line should have been a warning sign that something was not quite right in your setup :P ... Yes, I looked around and noticed

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Re: [emax] Re: RS422 fun

2008-11-23 by mr julian

... yeah.... modern computers move on from old tech, but then when you need the simple old features of the old tech, they re no longer a standard item, and you

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Re: RS422 fun

2008-11-23 by esynthesist

... configuring correctly and hooking up the right pins. but US$399 makes it more expensive than an emax...

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Re: [emax] Re: RS422 fun

2008-11-23 by mr julian

those RTS(ready to send) and CTS(clear to send) +/-(differential pairs) are two separate signals. neither of which is a clock. They re handshaking signals,

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Re: [emax] Re: RS422 fun

2008-11-23 by mr julian

hey Tristian. sorry, but you think wrong. I have a DSO at work that costs more than an EII, an EIII, an emax, an emax II, and old mac, and a PC with a proper

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Re: [emax] Re: RS422 fun

2008-11-22 by Ted Summers

These are signal level ins/outs. I have never had that sort of interconnect for data strapping kill anything. They are very common on RS-232, and I have done

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Re: RS422 fun

2008-11-22 by esynthesist

And these experiments can not harm/damage my Emulator II/Emax/PC RS422 port ??? ... communications

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Re: RS422 fun

2008-11-22 by esynthesist

Hi Ted, yes, the Emax documents mention synchronous communication, while the EII documents mention asynchronous communication. Anyway it s clear that we need

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Re: [emax] Re: RS422 fun

2008-11-22 by Ted Summers

OK- So I was being lazy..... I found all the docs for the adapters you have..... ON the Redcom- you have jumper on 17-18 I assume? I would try all of the

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Re: [emax] Re: RS422 fun

2008-11-22 by Ted Summers

From the emax service manual..... This paragraph to me indicates a Synchronous clock at 500Khz. What I can see from the schematic is that the signal from pin 7

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Re: RS422 fun

2008-11-22 by esynthesist

OK. If I was able to connect the clock of the Emax with the RS422 port I would have done so from the very beginning of course :-) But that s the whole problem:

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Re: [emax] Re: RS422 fun

2008-11-22 by Ted Summers

This may be butting in, but..... According to the Emax Service manual, Pin 7 on the Emax DB-9 is the clock. On the Emax cable used with Alchemy (which I have

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Re: [emax] Re: RS422 fun

2008-11-22 by tu@...

Ok, this explains why you are seeing errors in the data coming from the PC but not with data going to the PC. You are running the PC RS422 interfaces

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Re: RS422 fun

2008-11-22 by esynthesist

About the hardware I have used until now: Serial ports: - Meilhaus Redcom USB-COMI RS422 USB port. Also sold with other brand names such as Easysync; very

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Re: RS422 fun

2008-11-22 by esynthesist

You made be thinking again. When I started my experiments I asked for some advice on serial communication on a Dutch electronics internet group. One of my

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Re[2]: [emax] Re: RS422 fun

2008-11-22 by tu@...

I think a DSO is a better option here as this investigation will most likely involve looking at the signal waveforms. A logic analyzer will usually have more

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Re: [emax] Re: RS422 fun

2008-11-22 by tu@...

I think the solution here really depends on the actual cause of the problem. It may even be just some simple thing like the cable wiring or a driver setting

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Re: [emax] Re: RS422 fun

2008-11-21 by mr julian

so the non-USB port didn t work? That link I sent the other week was to a 422 adapter card that was able to run synchronous.... is the issue that this card can

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Re: RS422 fun

2008-11-21 by esynthesist

Thanks Tristan. I m wondering though: even if we find the actual cause of the problem (timing or signal level), I guess there s not much we can do to solve the

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Re: [emax] Re: RS422 fun

2008-11-21 by tu@...

Yes, an oscilloscope is what you need. I suggest getting a digital model as it should allow you to capture and store the signals you are measuring. Some high

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RE: [emax] emax 2 for sale.

2008-11-20 by MFMouseQuake

Do you have a pix of the unit that you can post? ... From: d-rok Sent: November 20, 2008 3:00 PM To: emax@yahoogroups.com Subject:

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Re: [emax] emax 2 for sale.

2008-11-20 by Peter

ill take it! how does it work? disks? power cord? etc? :) thanks!! ... __peter.__________________ no meat no brakes no sense

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emax 2 for sale.

2008-11-20 by d-rok

hello i have an emax II for sale it is in great condition, im only asking 150 for it, let me know if you want it thanx Dennis...i live in las vegas by the

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FS- External SCSI Zip100

2008-11-20 by Ted Summers

I bought this at the beginning of my Emax SCSI upgrade journey. Bought off ebay for $25 +ship new in the shrink wrapped box. I bought 10 disks (also brand new)

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Re: [emax] Re: RS422 fun

2008-11-17 by Brian Ronn

Hi Emu artists I ve been following the thread concerning pc to Emax bank transfer with much interest. I fully support what Tristian say. I think to,

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Re: RS422 fun

2008-11-17 by esynthesist

To have 100% certainty about the actual problem I should indeed do some measurements with an oscilloscope... but I don t have one. I was (and still) am

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