Emax

> On Feb 15, 2014, at 3:39 PM, wandamusic@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Hi, all,
>  
> Thanks for being here. ;-)
>  
> I am just wondering if anyone knows if there is ANY other sampler or hardware device that will play emax 1 discs/presets as-is.
>  
> If not, is there any software that will play them as-is, without a lot of fiddling, reassigning notes, ranges, etc. I don't care if it would read supermodemap or not. Just play the sounds.
>  
> I have been searching for weeks and keep running into a dead end, seemingly emax ll sounds might be able
> to work in other samplers.
>  
> I have been looking for a used emax 1 rack unsuccessfully, so now looking to see if there are options.
>  
> Blessings,
> 
> Wanda
>

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: niemand1334@... 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 11:36 PM
  Subject: Re: [emax] emax 1 disc question


    

  Did you mean besides the emax2? I believe the emax 2 is the only other sampler compatible with the emax 1

  On Feb 15, 2014, at 3:39 PM, wandamusic@aol.com wrote:


      

    Hi, all,

    Thanks for being here. ;-)

    I am just wondering if anyone knows if there is ANY other sampler or hardware device that will play emax 1 discs/presets as-is.

    If not, is there any software that will play them as-is, without a lot of fiddling, reassigning notes, ranges, etc. I don't care if it would read supermodemap or not. Just play the sounds.

    I have been searching for weeks and keep running into a dead end, seemingly emax ll sounds might be able
    to work in other samplers. 

    I have been looking for a used emax 1 rack unsuccessfully, so now looking to see if there are options.

    Blessings,

    Wanda


  
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: wandamusic@... 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 3:47 PM
  Subject: Re: [emax] emax 1 disc question


    

  I don't have access to an emax 2, will they read the discs and work without going through a process for each disc, preset?

  I have been reading things that suggest they may load the samples but then a lot of work is involved.

  I am hoping to buy something that will read the sounds without many hours of work. Makes more sense to me to find what will work, rather than buy something randomly, then acquire all the things needed to do all the work of setting up discs on a new keyboard.

  I have no way to test it and have been looking to buy something, but can't find out for sure if emax 2 will read the discs. I am seeing that emax 2 is compatible with various emulators, but that those emulators are NOT compatible with emax 1, which leads me to believe that emax 1 and 2 are not out of the box compatible.

  I am still holding out hope that at some point I will find an affordable working emax 1 (se) rack.

  In a message dated 2/15/2014 6:36:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, niemand1334@... writes:
      

    Did you mean besides the emax2? I believe the emax 2 is the only other sampler compatible with the emax 1

    On Feb 15, 2014, at 3:39 PM, wandamusic@... wrote:


        

      Hi, all,

      Thanks for being here. ;-)

      I am just wondering if anyone knows if there is ANY other sampler or hardware device that will play emax 1 discs/presets as-is.

      If not, is there any software that will play them as-is, without a lot of fiddling, reassigning notes, ranges, etc. I don't care if it would read supermodemap or not. Just play the sounds.

      I have been searching for weeks and keep running into a dead end, seemingly emax ll sounds might be able
      to work in other samplers. 

      I have been looking for a used emax 1 rack unsuccessfully, so now looking to see if there are options.

      Blessings,

      Wanda

From: emax@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emax@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Padilla
Sent: February-15-14 6:42 PM
To: emax@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [emax] emax 1 disc question

 

  

 

I seem to recall that the Oberheim DPX-1 plays Emax I discs.  It was a contemporary to the Emax I, and its forte was it could play sample discs from Sequential, Emu and Akai.  

 

As for affordable Emax I's:  It appears the market for non-rompler Emus is back on the way up.  Reminds me of the late 80s when one could pick up a Jupiter-8 or Prophet-5 for really cheap; then they eventually started to go up in price.....   

 

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: wandamusic@... 

To: emax@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 3:47 PM

Subject: Re: [emax] emax 1 disc question

 

  

I don't have access to an emax 2, will they read the discs and work without going through a process for each disc, preset?

 

I have been reading things that suggest they may load the samples but then a lot of work is involved.

 

I am hoping to buy something that will read the sounds without many hours of work. Makes more sense to me to find what will work, rather than buy something randomly, then acquire all the things needed to do all the work of setting up discs on a new keyboard.

 

I have no way to test it and have been looking to buy something, but can't find out for sure if emax 2 will read the discs. I am seeing that emax 2 is compatible with various emulators, but that those emulators are NOT compatible with emax 1, which leads me to believe that emax 1 and 2 are not out of the box compatible.

 

I am still holding out hope that at some point I will find an affordable working emax 1 (se) rack.

 

In a message dated 2/15/2014 6:36:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, niemand1334@... writes:

  

Did you mean besides the emax2? I believe the emax 2 is the only other sampler compatible with the emax 1


On Feb 15, 2014, at 3:39 PM, wandamusic@... wrote:

  

Hi, all,

 

Thanks for being here. ;-)

 

I am just wondering if anyone knows if there is ANY other sampler or hardware device that will play emax 1 discs/presets as-is.

 

If not, is there any software that will play them as-is, without a lot of fiddling, reassigning notes, ranges, etc. I don't care if it would read supermodemap or not. Just play the sounds.

 

I have been searching for weeks and keep running into a dead end, seemingly emax ll sounds might be able

to work in other samplers. 

 

I have been looking for a used emax 1 rack unsuccessfully, so now looking to see if there are options.

 

Blessings,

Wanda

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: jammie 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 11:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [emax] emax 1 disc question


    
   

  with emxp you can convert to eiii and eiiix format

  both formats can be read by eultra samplers and emulatorx
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: niemand1334@... 
    To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
    Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 11:36 PM
    Subject: Re: [emax] emax 1 disc question


      

    Did you mean besides the emax2? I believe the emax 2 is the only other sampler compatible with the emax 1

    On Feb 15, 2014, at 3:39 PM, wandamusic@... wrote:


        

      Hi, all,

      Thanks for being here. ;-)

      I am just wondering if anyone knows if there is ANY other sampler or hardware device that will play emax 1 discs/presets as-is.

      If not, is there any software that will play them as-is, without a lot of fiddling, reassigning notes, ranges, etc. I don't care if it would read supermodemap or not. Just play the sounds.

      I have been searching for weeks and keep running into a dead end, seemingly emax ll sounds might be able
      to work in other samplers. 

      I have been looking for a used emax 1 rack unsuccessfully, so now looking to see if there are options.

      Blessings,

      Wanda


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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: esynthesist@... 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 9:36 AM
  Subject: Re: [emax] emax 1 disc question


    
  There's (almost) no work to be done when using Emax-1 banks in an Emax-2.

  The main differences (besides possibility of larger banks in an Emax-2) are:
  - the Emax-1 uses compressed samples in 8 bits while the Emax-2 uses linear 16 bit samples. When loading an Emax-1 bank into the Emax-2, the Emax-2 sampler automatically converts the samples in the bank (takes a few seconds...). The difference in sample format is the main reason why most other samplers don't support Emax-1 banks.
  - the Emax-1 deals differently with stereo than the Emax-2. In some cases, after loading an Emax-1 bank into the Emax-2, you may have to correct the stereo voice/panning settings because the sound may only be heard on one channel (depending on the panning settings and dual voice settings on the Emax-1). In practice that's the only potential bit of work that you may have to do.


  FYI: as mentioned, EMXP can convert Emax-1 banks. One of the conversions supported is the same conversion to Emax-2 format as is being done by the Emax-2 sampler itself when loading Emax-1 banks. So if you convert them in this way and e.g burn the converted banks on an Emax-2 formatted cdrom, all samplers that support Emax-2 banks can read your banks...

  
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: wandamusic@... 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 9:43 AM
  Subject: Re: [emax] emax 1 disc question


    

  Thanks, this is helpful.

  So if I find an emax 2 I should be able to read my old discs, then.

  I had seen that elsewhere, but since I also saw that emax2 was like emulator (ll?) and they were readable by the oberheim but not the emax, I wasn't sure.

  My goal is to find something rack mount where I can read these discs for not too much $$$.

  I don't have the knowledge to do the software hacks, conversions, and such I have seen referenced here. Just want simple way to play old samples. Definitely do not want to have to map samples, no worries about old sequences, etc, just sound banks.

  Blessings,

  Wanda

  In a message dated 2/16/2014 4:36:50 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, esynthesist@... writes:
      
    There's (almost) no work to be done when using Emax-1 banks in an Emax-2. 

    The main differences (besides possibility of larger banks in an Emax-2) are:
    - the Emax-1 uses compressed samples in 8 bits while the Emax-2 uses linear 16 bit samples. When loading an Emax-1 bank into the Emax-2, the Emax-2 sampler automatically converts the samples in the bank (takes a few seconds...). The difference in sample format is the main reason why most other samplers don't support Emax-1 banks.
    - the Emax-1 deals differently with stereo than the Emax-2. In some cases, after loading an Emax-1 bank into the Emax-2, you may have to correct the stereo voice/panning settings because the sound may only be heard on one channel (depending on the panning settings and dual voice settings on the Emax-1). In practice that's the only potential bit of work that you may have to do.


    FYI: as mentioned, EMXP can convert Emax-1 banks. One of the conversions supported is the same conversion to Emax-2 format as is being done by the Emax-2 sampler itself when loading Emax-1 banks. So if you convert them in this way and e.g burn the converted banks on an Emax-2 formatted cdrom, all samplers that support Emax-2 banks can read your banks...



  
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From: _wandamusic@..._ (mailto:wandamusic@...)  
To: _emax@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:emax@yahoogroups.com)  
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 9:43  AM
Subject: Re: [emax] emax 1 disc  question



Thanks, this is helpful.
 
So if I find an emax 2 I should be able to read my old discs,  then.
 
I had seen that elsewhere, but since I also saw that emax2 was like  
emulator (ll?) and they were readable by the oberheim but not the emax, I  wasn't 
sure.
 
My goal is to find something rack mount where I can read these discs  for 
not too much $$$.
 
I don't have the knowledge to do the software hacks,  conversions, and such 
I have seen referenced here. Just want simple way  to play old samples. 
Definitely do not want to have to map samples, no  worries about old sequences, 
etc, just sound banks.
 
 
Blessings,

Wanda

 
 
In a message dated 2/16/2014 4:36:50 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
esynthesist@... writes:

 
There's (almost) no work to be done when using Emax-1 banks in an  Emax-2.  
The main differences (besides possibility of larger banks in an  Emax-2) 
are:
- the Emax-1 uses compressed samples in 8 bits while the Emax-2 uses  
linear 16 bit samples. When loading an Emax-1 bank into the Emax-2, the  Emax-2 
sampler automatically converts the samples in the bank (takes a few  
seconds...). The difference in sample format is the main reason why most  other 
samplers don't support Emax-1 banks.
- the Emax-1 deals differently with stereo than the Emax-2. In some  cases, 
after loading an Emax-1 bank into the Emax-2, you may have to  correct the 
stereo voice/panning settings because the sound may only be  heard on one 
channel (depending on the panning settings and dual voice  settings on the 
Emax-1). In practice that's the only potential bit of work  that you may have 
to do.


FYI: as mentioned, EMXP can convert Emax-1 banks. One of the  conversions 
supported is the same conversion to Emax-2 format as is being  done by the 
Emax-2 sampler itself when loading Emax-1 banks. So if you  convert them in 
this way and e.g burn the converted banks on an Emax-2  formatted cdrom, all 
samplers that support Emax-2 banks can read your  banks...






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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: wandamusic@... 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 2:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [emax] emax 1 disc question


    

  HI, Jammie,

  Thanks, butI am just a little confused now. I  have never used sound fount software. 
  Are you saying that some SOFTWARE I could buy would read these discs? 

  Or is that only if I do some other process first? Plus I do not have an old DD 3.5 drive.

  My goal is to avoid doing a process with each disc, as I have countless old discs.

  My hope is to find/buy something, where I can put any Emax 1 disc in, then choose any preset.

  I do not mind if the "whatever" I end up getting takes a little longer to load the disc, because I can do something else while I wait. 

  I just do not want to have to do a process for each disc.

  It seems obvious that an old Emax 1 is best choice, but sounds like Emax 2 will also work easily. And I need to find a rack, due to space, which seems harder to find.

  If I find an old Emax 2, will it boot with Emax 1 discs? Or do I need to buy a boot disc if it comes with no disc?

  Blessings,

  Wanda


  In a message dated 2/16/2014 6:58:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, jammie.emma@... writes:
      
     

    you dont have to map anything the conversion does it for you to the format that is required by the host sampler

    even software samplers that can play sf2 instruments can be used

    emax2 is not like an EII at all 

    emulatorx1/2/3 all read sf2 and can convert emax2 instruments

    software wise its the closest thing to a e4ultra and has the emu sound but the EII filters are great and the synth engine is better on the EII as the emax playback rate is not as high as the EII anbd when converting EII banks some reach the playback limit and carry on playing the same tone after the playback rate is reached 
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: wandamusic@... 
      To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
      Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 9:43 AM
      Subject: Re: [emax] emax 1 disc question


        

      Thanks, this is helpful.

      So if I find an emax 2 I should be able to read my old discs, then.

      I had seen that elsewhere, but since I also saw that emax2 was like emulator (ll?) and they were readable by the oberheim but not the emax, I wasn't sure.

      My goal is to find something rack mount where I can read these discs for not too much $$$.

      I don't have the knowledge to do the software hacks, conversions, and such I have seen referenced here. Just want simple way to play old samples. Definitely do not want to have to map samples, no worries about old sequences, etc, just sound banks.

      Blessings,

      Wanda

      In a message dated 2/16/2014 4:36:50 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, esynthesist@... writes:
          
        There's (almost) no work to be done when using Emax-1 banks in an Emax-2. 

        The main differences (besides possibility of larger banks in an Emax-2) are:
        - the Emax-1 uses compressed samples in 8 bits while the Emax-2 uses linear 16 bit samples. When loading an Emax-1 bank into the Emax-2, the Emax-2 sampler automatically converts the samples in the bank (takes a few seconds...). The difference in sample format is the main reason why most other samplers don't support Emax-1 banks.
        - the Emax-1 deals differently with stereo than the Emax-2. In some cases, after loading an Emax-1 bank into the Emax-2, you may have to correct the stereo voice/panning settings because the sound may only be heard on one channel (depending on the panning settings and dual voice settings on the Emax-1). In practice that's the only potential bit of work that you may have to do.


        FYI: as mentioned, EMXP can convert Emax-1 banks. One of the conversions supported is the same conversion to Emax-2 format as is being done by the Emax-2 sampler itself when loading Emax-1 banks. So if you convert them in this way and e.g burn the converted banks on an Emax-2 formatted cdrom, all samplers that support Emax-2 banks can read your banks...



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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: wandamusic@... 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 2:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [emax] emax 1 disc question


    

  HI, Jammie,

  Thanks, butI am just a little confused now. I  have never used sound fount software. 
  Are you saying that some SOFTWARE I could buy would read these discs? 

  Or is that only if I do some other process first? Plus I do not have an old DD 3.5 drive.

  My goal is to avoid doing a process with each disc, as I have countless old discs.

  My hope is to find/buy something, where I can put any Emax 1 disc in, then choose any preset.

  I do not mind if the "whatever" I end up getting takes a little longer to load the disc, because I can do something else while I wait. 

  I just do not want to have to do a process for each disc.

  It seems obvious that an old Emax 1 is best choice, but sounds like Emax 2 will also work easily. And I need to find a rack, due to space, which seems harder to find.

  If I find an old Emax 2, will it boot with Emax 1 discs? Or do I need to buy a boot disc if it comes with no disc?

  Blessings,

  Wanda


  In a message dated 2/16/2014 6:58:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, jammie.emma@... writes:
      
     

    you dont have to map anything the conversion does it for you to the format that is required by the host sampler

    even software samplers that can play sf2 instruments can be used

    emax2 is not like an EII at all 

    emulatorx1/2/3 all read sf2 and can convert emax2 instruments

    software wise its the closest thing to a e4ultra and has the emu sound but the EII filters are great and the synth engine is better on the EII as the emax playback rate is not as high as the EII anbd when converting EII banks some reach the playback limit and carry on playing the same tone after the playback rate is reached 
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: wandamusic@... 
      To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
      Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 9:43 AM
      Subject: Re: [emax] emax 1 disc question


        

      Thanks, this is helpful.

      So if I find an emax 2 I should be able to read my old discs, then.

      I had seen that elsewhere, but since I also saw that emax2 was like emulator (ll?) and they were readable by the oberheim but not the emax, I wasn't sure.

      My goal is to find something rack mount where I can read these discs for not too much $$$.

      I don't have the knowledge to do the software hacks, conversions, and such I have seen referenced here. Just want simple way to play old samples. Definitely do not want to have to map samples, no worries about old sequences, etc, just sound banks.

      Blessings,

      Wanda

      In a message dated 2/16/2014 4:36:50 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, esynthesist@yahoo.com writes:
          
        There's (almost) no work to be done when using Emax-1 banks in an Emax-2. 

        The main differences (besides possibility of larger banks in an Emax-2) are:
        - the Emax-1 uses compressed samples in 8 bits while the Emax-2 uses linear 16 bit samples. When loading an Emax-1 bank into the Emax-2, the Emax-2 sampler automatically converts the samples in the bank (takes a few seconds...). The difference in sample format is the main reason why most other samplers don't support Emax-1 banks.
        - the Emax-1 deals differently with stereo than the Emax-2. In some cases, after loading an Emax-1 bank into the Emax-2, you may have to correct the stereo voice/panning settings because the sound may only be heard on one channel (depending on the panning settings and dual voice settings on the Emax-1). In practice that's the only potential bit of work that you may have to do.


        FYI: as mentioned, EMXP can convert Emax-1 banks. One of the conversions supported is the same conversion to Emax-2 format as is being done by the Emax-2 sampler itself when loading Emax-1 banks. So if you convert them in this way and e.g burn the converted banks on an Emax-2 formatted cdrom, all samplers that support Emax-2 banks can read your banks...



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----- Original Message ----- 
From: _wandamusic@..._ (mailto:wandamusic@...)  
To: _emax@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:emax@yahoogroups.com)  
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 2:35  PM
Subject: Re: [emax] emax 1 disc  question



HI, Jammie,
 
Thanks, butI am just a little confused now. I  have never used  sound fount 
software. 
Are you saying that some SOFTWARE I could buy would read these discs?  

Or is that only if I do some other process first? Plus I do not have an  
old DD 3.5 drive.
 
My goal is to avoid doing a process with each disc, as I have countless  
old discs.
 
My hope is to find/buy something, where I can put any Emax 1 disc  in, then 
choose any preset.
 
I do not mind if the "whatever" I end up getting takes a little longer  to 
load the disc, because I can do something else while I wait. 
 
I just do not want to have to do a process for each disc.
 
It seems obvious that an old Emax 1 is best choice, but sounds like  Emax 2 
will also work easily. And I need to find a rack, due to space, which  
seems harder to find.
 
If I find an old Emax 2, will it boot with Emax 1 discs? Or do I need  to 
buy a boot disc if it comes with no disc?
 
 
Blessings,

Wanda

 
 
 
In a message dated 2/16/2014 6:58:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
jammie.emma@blueyonder.co.uk writes:

 
  
you dont have to map anything the conversion  does it for you to the format 
that is required by the host  sampler
 
even software samplers that can play sf2  instruments can be used
 
emax2 is not like an EII at all 
 
emulatorx1/2/3 all read sf2 and can convert  emax2 instruments
 
software wise its the closest thing to a  e4ultra and has the emu sound but 
the EII filters are great and the synth  engine is better on the EII as the 
emax playback rate is not as high as  the EII anbd when converting EII 
banks some reach the playback limit and  carry on playing the same tone after 
the playback rate is reached  

----- Original Message ----- 
From: _wandamusic@..._ (mailto:wandamusic@...)  
To: _emax@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:emax@yahoogroups.com)  
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014  9:43 AM
Subject: Re: [emax] emax 1 disc  question



Thanks, this is helpful.
 
So if I find an emax 2 I should be able to read my old discs,  then.
 
I had seen that elsewhere, but since I also saw that emax2 was like  
emulator (ll?) and they were readable by the oberheim but not the emax,  I wasn't 
sure.
 
My goal is to find something rack mount where I can read these  discs for 
not too much $$$.
 
I don't have the knowledge to do the software hacks,  conversions, and such 
I have seen referenced here. Just want simple  way to play old samples. 
Definitely do not want to have to map samples,  no worries about old sequences, 
etc, just sound banks.
 
 
Blessings,

Wanda

 
 
In a message dated 2/16/2014 4:36:50 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
esynthesist@... writes:

 
There's (almost) no work to be done when using Emax-1 banks in an  Emax-2.  
The main differences (besides possibility of larger banks in an  Emax-2) 
are:
- the Emax-1 uses compressed samples in 8 bits while the Emax-2  uses 
linear 16 bit samples. When loading an Emax-1 bank into the  Emax-2, the Emax-2 
sampler automatically converts the samples in the  bank (takes a few 
seconds...). The difference in sample format is the  main reason why most other 
samplers don't support Emax-1 banks.
- the Emax-1 deals differently with stereo than the Emax-2. In  some cases, 
after loading an Emax-1 bank into the Emax-2, you may have  to correct the 
stereo voice/panning settings because the sound may  only be heard on one 
channel (depending on the panning settings and  dual voice settings on the 
Emax-1). In practice that's the only  potential bit of work that you may have 
to do.


FYI: as mentioned, EMXP can convert Emax-1 banks. One of the  conversions 
supported is the same conversion to Emax-2 format as is  being done by the 
Emax-2 sampler itself when loading Emax-1 banks. So  if you convert them in 
this way and e.g burn the converted banks on an  Emax-2 formatted cdrom, all 
samplers that support Emax-2 banks can  read your banks...






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  From: wandamusic@... 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 4:53 PM
  Subject: Re: [emax] emax 1 disc question


    

  Thanks, but I don't have a drive on my computer that will read these.

  Maybe that is something I should look for. Anyone here done this easily?

  In a message dated 2/16/2014 11:49:46 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, jammie.emma@....uk writes:
      
     

    putting a disc in a computer is no different to putting it into a emu emax machine 

    takes the same amount of time

    when emxp creates a sf2 file it creates all presets as are in the emax file with the envelope and filter settings 
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: wandamusic@... 
      To: emax@...m 
      Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 2:35 PM
      Subject: Re: [emax] emax 1 disc question


        

      HI, Jammie,

      Thanks, butI am just a little confused now. I  have never used sound fount software. 
      Are you saying that some SOFTWARE I could buy would read these discs? 

      Or is that only if I do some other process first? Plus I do not have an old DD 3.5 drive.

      My goal is to avoid doing a process with each disc, as I have countless old discs.

      My hope is to find/buy something, where I can put any Emax 1 disc in, then choose any preset.

      I do not mind if the "whatever" I end up getting takes a little longer to load the disc, because I can do something else while I wait. 

      I just do not want to have to do a process for each disc.

      It seems obvious that an old Emax 1 is best choice, but sounds like Emax 2 will also work easily. And I need to find a rack, due to space, which seems harder to find.

      If I find an old Emax 2, will it boot with Emax 1 discs? Or do I need to buy a boot disc if it comes with no disc?

      Blessings,

      Wanda


      In a message dated 2/16/2014 6:58:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, jammie.emma@... writes:
          
         

        you dont have to map anything the conversion does it for you to the format that is required by the host sampler

        even software samplers that can play sf2 instruments can be used

        emax2 is not like an EII at all 

        emulatorx1/2/3 all read sf2 and can convert emax2 instruments

        software wise its the closest thing to a e4ultra and has the emu sound but the EII filters are great and the synth engine is better on the EII as the emax playback rate is not as high as the EII anbd when converting EII banks some reach the playback limit and carry on playing the same tone after the playback rate is reached 
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: wandamusic@... 
          To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
          Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 9:43 AM
          Subject: Re: [emax] emax 1 disc question


            

          Thanks, this is helpful.

          So if I find an emax 2 I should be able to read my old discs, then.

          I had seen that elsewhere, but since I also saw that emax2 was like emulator (ll?) and they were readable by the oberheim but not the emax, I wasn't sure.

          My goal is to find something rack mount where I can read these discs for not too much $$$.

          I don't have the knowledge to do the software hacks, conversions, and such I have seen referenced here. Just want simple way to play old samples. Definitely do not want to have to map samples, no worries about old sequences, etc, just sound banks.

          Blessings,

          Wanda

          In a message dated 2/16/2014 4:36:50 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, esynthesist@... writes:
              
            There's (almost) no work to be done when using Emax-1 banks in an Emax-2. 

            The main differences (besides possibility of larger banks in an Emax-2) are:
            - the Emax-1 uses compressed samples in 8 bits while the Emax-2 uses linear 16 bit samples. When loading an Emax-1 bank into the Emax-2, the Emax-2 sampler automatically converts the samples in the bank (takes a few seconds...). The difference in sample format is the main reason why most other samplers don't support Emax-1 banks.
            - the Emax-1 deals differently with stereo than the Emax-2. In some cases, after loading an Emax-1 bank into the Emax-2, you may have to correct the stereo voice/panning settings because the sound may only be heard on one channel (depending on the panning settings and dual voice settings on the Emax-1). In practice that's the only potential bit of work that you may have to do.


            FYI: as mentioned, EMXP can convert Emax-1 banks. One of the conversions supported is the same conversion to Emax-2 format as is being done by the Emax-2 sampler itself when loading Emax-1 banks. So if you convert them in this way and e.g burn the converted banks on an Emax-2 formatted cdrom, all samplers that support Emax-2 banks can read your banks...



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From: emax@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emax@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
wandamusic@...
Sent: February-16-14 9:29 AM
To: emax@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [emax] emax 1 disc question

 

  

In a message dated 2/16/2014 12:25:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
mpadilla@... writes:

I seem to recall that the Oberheim DPX-1 plays Emax I discs. 

 

The specs say no.

 

Does anyone have one?

 

And an Emax 1 disc? 

 

Blessings,

Wanda

From:  emax@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emax@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of  
wandamusic@...
Sent: February-16-14 9:29 AM
To:  emax@...m
Subject: Re: [emax] emax 1 disc  question

 
 
 
 
In a message  dated 2/16/2014 12:25:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
mpadilla@...  writes:

I seem to  recall that the Oberheim DPX-1 plays Emax I  discs. 
 

 
 
The specs say  no.
 

 
Does anyone  have one?
 

 
And an Emax 1  disc?  
 

 
Blessings,

Wanda

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Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 5:28 PM

Subject: Re: [emax] emax 1 disc question

In a message dated 2/16/2014 12:25:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mpadilla@... writes:

I seem to recall that the Oberheim DPX-1 plays Emax I discs.

The specs say no.

Does anyone have one?

And an Emax 1 disc?

Blessings,

Wanda

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----- Original Message -----

From: Lorne Hammond

To: emax@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 6:19 PM

Subject: RE: [emax] emax 1 disc question

yes. I just answered this on another list when we wondered if it would dump other emu products. There were two OS and the second one added akai and a few others, then they stopped.

However legacy software like sound designer converts I think. But that is a mac classic era product with a license disk with a physical notch in it to prevent copying.

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To: emax@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [emax] emax 1 disc question

In a message dated 2/16/2014 12:25:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mpadilla@... writes:

I seem to recall that the Oberheim DPX-1 plays Emax I discs.

The specs say no.

Does anyone have one?

And an Emax 1 disc?

Blessings,

Wanda

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From: emax@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emax@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wandamusic@...
Sent: February-16-14 10:25 AM
To: emax@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [emax] emax 1 disc question

 

  

You are saying that "some" of the Oberheim DPX-1 will play Emax I discs.(?) If so, how woud oI determine before buying that one did read these discs?

 

I don't understand what "dump other emu products" means. THis sounds like something involving computer and hardware sampler?

 

I have no Mac computers available.

 

And no older DOS ones, or a 3.5 dd drive.

 

I hope to solve my issues by buying one piece of equipment.

 

Thanks for all the tips, wish I had more knowledge in these matters.

 

;-(

 

 

In a message dated 2/16/2014 1:19:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, lhammond@... writes:

  

yes.  I just answered this on another list when we wondered if it would dump other emu products.  There were two OS and the second one added akai and a few others, then they stopped.

However legacy software like sound designer converts I think.  But that is a mac classic era product with a license disk with a physical notch in it to prevent copying.

From: emax@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emax@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wandamusic@...
Sent: February-16-14 9:29 AM
To: emax@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [emax] emax 1 disc question

  

In a message dated 2/16/2014 12:25:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mpadilla@... writes:

I seem to recall that the Oberheim DPX-1 plays Emax I discs. 

The specs say no.

Does anyone have one?

And an Emax 1 disc? 

Blessings,

Wanda

From:  emax@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emax@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of  
wandamusic@...
Sent: February-16-14 10:25 AM
To:  emax@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [emax] emax 1 disc  question

 
 
 
 
You are saying  that "some" of the Oberheim DPX-1 will play Emax I 
discs.(?) If so, how woud  oI determine before buying that one did read these  discs?
 

 
I don't  understand what "dump other emu products"  means. THis sounds like 
something involving computer and hardware  sampler?
 

 
I have no Mac computers  available.
 

 
And no older DOS ones, or a  3.5 dd drive.
 

 
I hope to solve my issues by  buying one piece of equipment.
 

 
Thanks for all the tips, wish  I had more knowledge in these matters.
 

 
;-(
 

 

 
 
In a message  dated 2/16/2014 1:19:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
lhammond@...  writes:

 
 
yes.   I just answered this on another list when we wondered if it would 
dump other  emu products.  There were two OS and the second one added akai and 
a  few others, then they stopped. 
However  legacy software like sound designer converts I think.  But that is 
a  mac classic era product with a license disk with a physical notch in it 
to  prevent copying. 
 
 
From: emax@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emax@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf  Of 
wandamusic@...
Sent: February-16-14 9:29  AM
To: emax@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [emax] emax 1  disc question

 
 
 
 
In a message  dated 2/16/2014 12:25:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
mpadilla@... writes:

I seem to  recall that the Oberheim DPX-1 plays Emax I discs. 
 
 
The specs say  no.
 
Does anyone  have one?
 
And an Emax 1  disc?  
 
Blessings,

Wanda

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: wandamusic@... 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 1:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [emax] emax 1 disc question


    

  I see.

  This is all way beyond me. Even if I understood all this, and get the stuff, this is way more time than I have to fiddle, and more computer skills than I have.

  Sounds like I just have to wait to find an old Emax 1.


  In a message dated 2/16/2014 4:19:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, lhammond@... writes:
      

    No, the DPX-1 reads Emulator II 5 1/4" disks,  a different emu machine than the Emax line though they share some hardware similarities such as the same filter chip. 

    It sounds like you might be best with some scii format zip disks.  Your modern computer will not have scsii, so that needs to be dealt with as well.


    Dump meaning a special very very slow (15 minutes per sound, which is not saved unless saved to disk)  transfer of samples down a midi cable.  It was an early attempt at making a universal format for moving samples over midi, and it failed because it was unbelievably slow.  But the DPX-1 it does not appear to do that anyway.  


    The modern emulation drives are pretending to be actual floppy disks that you format, and put a library in each fake disk.  It fools the machine into thinking it is dealing with a floppy

    and you page through teh floppies with a button.  But the only display you get when paging is the number of the disk, nothing shows you teh sounds names until you go to load.

    Its here: http://hxc2001.free.fr/floppy_drive_emulator/


    You need a hard disk/cd of the library, a program for moving and seeing the Emax 1 sounds on your computer, and for moving them.  Another program creates the fake drives on your usb stick inside the software the emulator drive uses.

    You replace your floppy with the emulator drive and get sort of a multi-disk floppy drive.  You could even load it with a camera sd card.


    Lorne  





    From: emax@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emax@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wandamusic@...
    Sent: February-16-14 10:25 AM
    To: emax@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [emax] emax 1 disc question


      

    You are saying that "some" of the Oberheim DPX-1 will play Emax I discs.(?) If so, how woud oI determine before buying that one did read these discs?


    I don't understand what "dump other emu products" means. THis sounds like something involving computer and hardware sampler?


    I have no Mac computers available.


    And no older DOS ones, or a 3.5 dd drive.


    I hope to solve my issues by buying one piece of equipment.


    Thanks for all the tips, wish I had more knowledge in these matters.


    ;-(



    In a message dated 2/16/2014 1:19:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, lhammond@... writes:

        

      yes.  I just answered this on another list when we wondered if it would dump other emu products.  There were two OS and the second one added akai and a few others, then they stopped.

      However legacy software like sound designer converts I think.  But that is a mac classic era product with a license disk with a physical notch in it to prevent copying.

      From: emax@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emax@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wandamusic@...
      Sent: February-16-14 9:29 AM
      To: emax@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [emax] emax 1 disc question

        

      In a message dated 2/16/2014 12:25:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mpadilla@centurylink.net writes:

        I seem to recall that the Oberheim DPX-1 plays Emax I discs. 

      The specs say no.

      Does anyone have one?

      And an Emax 1 disc? 

      Blessings,

      Wanda

----- Original Message ----- 
From: _wandamusic@..._ (mailto:wandamusic@...)  
To: _emax@...m_ (mailto:emax@yahoogroups.com)  
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 1:40  PM
Subject: Re: [emax] emax 1 disc  question



I see.
 
This is all way beyond me. Even if I understood all this, and get the  
stuff, this is way more time than I have to fiddle, and more computer skills  
than I have.
 
Sounds like I just have to wait to find an old Emax 1.
 
 
 
In a message dated 2/16/2014 4:19:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
_lhammond@..._ (mailto:lhammond@...)  writes:

 
 
No, the  DPX-1 reads Emulator II 5 1/4" disks,  a different emu machine 
than  the Emax line though they share some hardware similarities such as the  
same filter chip.  
It sounds  like you might be best with some scii format zip disks.  Your 
modern  computer will not have scsii, so that needs to be dealt with as  well. 
Dump  meaning a special very very slow (15 minutes per sound, which is not 
saved  unless saved to disk)  transfer of samples down a midi cable.   It 
was an early attempt at making a universal format for moving samples  over 
midi, and it failed because it was unbelievably slow.  But the  DPX-1 it does 
not appear to do that anyway.   
The  modern emulation drives are pretending to be actual floppy disks that 
you  format, and put a library in each fake disk.  It fools the machine  
into thinking it is dealing with a floppy 
and you  page through teh floppies with a button.  But the only display you 
 get when paging is the number of the disk, nothing shows you teh sounds  
names until you go to load. 
Its here:  http://hxc2001.free.fr/floppy_drive_emulator/ 
You need  a hard disk/cd of the library, a program for moving and seeing 
the Emax 1  sounds on your computer, and for moving them.  Another program  
creates the fake drives on your usb stick inside the software the emulator  
drive uses. 
You  replace your floppy with the emulator drive and get sort of a 
multi-disk  floppy drive.  You could even load it with a camera sd  card. 
Lorne   
 
 
From:  emax@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emax@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of  
wandamusic@...
Sent: February-16-14 10:25  AM
To: emax@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [emax] emax 1  disc question

 
 
 
 
You are  saying that "some" of the Oberheim DPX-1 will play Emax I 
discs.(?) If so,  how woud oI determine before buying that one did read these  discs?
 

 
I don't  understand what "dump other emu  products" means. THis sounds like 
something involving computer and  hardware sampler?
 

 
I have no Mac computers  available.
 

 
And no older DOS ones, or  a 3.5 dd drive.
 

 
I hope to solve my issues  by buying one piece of equipment.
 

 
Thanks for all the tips,  wish I had more knowledge in these matters.
 

 
;-(
 

 

 
 
In a  message dated 2/16/2014 1:19:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
lhammond@... writes:

 
 
yes.  I just answered this  on another list when we wondered if it would 
dump other emu  products.  There were two OS and the second one added akai and 
a  few others, then they stopped. 
However  legacy software like sound designer converts I think.  But that is 
 a mac classic era product with a license disk with a physical notch in  it 
to prevent copying. 
 
 
From: emax@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emax@yahoogroups.com] On  Behalf Of 
wandamusic@...
Sent: February-16-14 9:29  AM
To: emax@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [emax] emax  1 disc question

 
 
 
 
In a  message dated 2/16/2014 12:25:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
mpadilla@... writes:

I seem  to recall that the Oberheim DPX-1 plays Emax I  discs. 
 
 
The specs  say no.
 
Does  anyone have one?
 
And an  Emax 1 disc?  
 
Blessings,

Wanda