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static white noise sound on top of EMAX 1 RACKMOUNT samples

static white noise sound on top of EMAX 1 RACKMOUNT samples

2013-03-27 by Martin

Hi All can someone help me as my emax 1 rack is petty useless to me as is.  someone previously posted this on my behalf and i still have the same problem after calibration using the diagnostics sheet.
I cant seem to record or play samples without a high freq white noise/static/hiss sound on top of the samples!? other than the SE disk with sounds already on and any other factory disks(they play without noise and the machine works perfect.) 
It hasnt allways done this i used to be able to record without this noise on top and all of a sudden it started acting up.Iv tried pretty much everything calibrating,new os 1.1 3.2 and SE 1.1 on new disks made with EXMP,Checked filters, sample rate adrs etc.Copied the working SE disk to a formatted disk and then deleted the sounds then recording into it but still the bad sound!.
I may have changed the kettle lead whilst moving could this be the ploblem? Is there a specific spec for the emax power lead? or Is there a setting/effect in the machine that could be the cause of this hiss/static?  Note with the lp filter i can filter out the white noise. the previous owner told me the machine is not faulty if you can filter out the noise you may have corrupted the disk/samples?.

Theres allways a harsh ripping noise or click when i turn the machine on.Im thinking there may be something wrong with the power supply or lead?.
Or Could it be ive used a disk that has corrupted the machine/os?? or upgraded to the se twice and corrupted the machine?.
Once you have upgraded to SE can you use only disks with SE 1.1 on them? or can you use other disks as long as there a EMAX os? ie 1.1 3.2 etc.
would formatting the machine back to original settngs then i can re-upgrade to the se using a fresh disk help? Sorry for all the questions just trying to sort this problem out so i can use the emax to sample/record.
Any suggestion would be very helpful!

Re: [emax] static white noise sound on top of EMAX 1 RACKMOUNT samples

2013-03-27 by Ted Summers

reseat all the IC's on the audio board that are socketed.
you may have a bad connection to a chip.
you may also have a floating ground or voltage on the ground from a bad
wire / cable that you are using to sample in, or also a ground difference
level between your input device and the emax.

As stated before SE disk does not update anything else or make any other
changes.
the SE update disk only updates bits in an EEPROM IC that holds calibration
parameters and the like.
Not the system firmware EPROM.
 - the Emax has no circuit  / capability to update the main system firmware
EPROM, unlike newer video cards and pc motherboards that have that kind of
capability (flash update).

But again I don't think that the SE update is your issue.


I don't know what is meant by "kettle lead" ???....

If it plays fine with a previously sampled sound, it doesn't make any sense
to blame the power supply.
If the power supply were injecting something into the circuit, I would
expect you would hear it at other times, not just sampling but also
playback.
as to some harsh sound when you power up, you may have a bad solder causing
an arc on the power supply, it's connector, or power switch COULD be going
bad.

There is no way to know it without seeing the unit.

If you don't know electronics, you should have someone with electronics
repair knowledge look at it (Jammie is in the UK as I see you are also, per
your email address)

Suggest you contact him and have him take a look.

Regards,
Ted Summers
Emax Yahoo! Users Group Co-Moderator








On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Martin <martinantill@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Hi All can someone help me as my emax 1 rack is petty useless to me as is.
> someone previously posted this on my behalf and i still have the same
> problem after calibration using the diagnostics sheet.
> I cant seem to record or play samples without a high freq white
> noise/static/hiss sound on top of the samples!? other than the SE disk with
> sounds already on and any other factory disks(they play without noise and
> the machine works perfect.)
> It hasnt allways done this i used to be able to record without this noise
> on top and all of a sudden it started acting up.Iv tried pretty much
> everything calibrating,new os 1.1 3.2 and SE 1.1 on new disks made with
> EXMP,Checked filters, sample rate adrs etc.Copied the working SE disk to a
> formatted disk and then deleted the sounds then recording into it but still
> the bad sound!.
> I may have changed the kettle lead whilst moving could this be the
> ploblem? Is there a specific spec for the emax power lead? or Is there a
> setting/effect in the machine that could be the cause of this hiss/static?
> Note with the lp filter i can filter out the white noise. the previous
> owner told me the machine is not faulty if you can filter out the noise you
> may have corrupted the disk/samples?.
>
> Theres allways a harsh ripping noise or click when i turn the machine
> on.Im thinking there may be something wrong with the power supply or lead?.
> Or Could it be ive used a disk that has corrupted the machine/os?? or
> upgraded to the se twice and corrupted the machine?.
> Once you have upgraded to SE can you use only disks with SE 1.1 on them?
> or can you use other disks as long as there a EMAX os? ie 1.1 3.2 etc.
> would formatting the machine back to original settngs then i can
> re-upgrade to the se using a fresh disk help? Sorry for all the questions
> just trying to sort this problem out so i can use the emax to sample/record.
> Any suggestion would be very helpful!
>
>
>  
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: static white noise sound on top of EMAX 1 RACKMOUNT samples

2013-03-27 by Martin

Thanks for your swift reply Ted! I will check that over i think you right about the power lead aka kettle lead as found on a water kettle.
While playback the hiss occasionally gets louder or dissapears. ive checked leads etc and made sure there not crossing other power leads.
If it were a ground difference or my machine needs to grounded how would i go about doing this? Isnt a plug grounded allready? sorry for confusion.
Thanks

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, Ted Summers <djtbs1@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> reseat all the IC's on the audio board that are socketed.
> you may have a bad connection to a chip.
> you may also have a floating ground or voltage on the ground from a bad
> wire / cable that you are using to sample in, or also a ground difference
> level between your input device and the emax.
> 
> As stated before SE disk does not update anything else or make any other
> changes.
> the SE update disk only updates bits in an EEPROM IC that holds calibration
> parameters and the like.
> Not the system firmware EPROM.
>  - the Emax has no circuit  / capability to update the main system firmware
> EPROM, unlike newer video cards and pc motherboards that have that kind of
> capability (flash update).
> 
> But again I don't think that the SE update is your issue.
> 
> 
> I don't know what is meant by "kettle lead" ???....
> 
> If it plays fine with a previously sampled sound, it doesn't make any sense
> to blame the power supply.
> If the power supply were injecting something into the circuit, I would
> expect you would hear it at other times, not just sampling but also
> playback.
> as to some harsh sound when you power up, you may have a bad solder causing
> an arc on the power supply, it's connector, or power switch COULD be going
> bad.
> 
> There is no way to know it without seeing the unit.
> 
> If you don't know electronics, you should have someone with electronics
> repair knowledge look at it (Jammie is in the UK as I see you are also, per
> your email address)
> 
> Suggest you contact him and have him take a look.
> 
> Regards,
> Ted Summers
> Emax Yahoo! Users Group Co-Moderator
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Martin <martinantill@...> wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> > Hi All can someone help me as my emax 1 rack is petty useless to me as is.
> > someone previously posted this on my behalf and i still have the same
> > problem after calibration using the diagnostics sheet.
> > I cant seem to record or play samples without a high freq white
> > noise/static/hiss sound on top of the samples!? other than the SE disk with
> > sounds already on and any other factory disks(they play without noise and
> > the machine works perfect.)
> > It hasnt allways done this i used to be able to record without this noise
> > on top and all of a sudden it started acting up.Iv tried pretty much
> > everything calibrating,new os 1.1 3.2 and SE 1.1 on new disks made with
> > EXMP,Checked filters, sample rate adrs etc.Copied the working SE disk to a
> > formatted disk and then deleted the sounds then recording into it but still
> > the bad sound!.
> > I may have changed the kettle lead whilst moving could this be the
> > ploblem? Is there a specific spec for the emax power lead? or Is there a
> > setting/effect in the machine that could be the cause of this hiss/static?
> > Note with the lp filter i can filter out the white noise. the previous
> > owner told me the machine is not faulty if you can filter out the noise you
> > may have corrupted the disk/samples?.
> >
> > Theres allways a harsh ripping noise or click when i turn the machine
> > on.Im thinking there may be something wrong with the power supply or lead?.
> > Or Could it be ive used a disk that has corrupted the machine/os?? or
> > upgraded to the se twice and corrupted the machine?.
> > Once you have upgraded to SE can you use only disks with SE 1.1 on them?
> > or can you use other disks as long as there a EMAX os? ie 1.1 3.2 etc.
> > would formatting the machine back to original settngs then i can
> > re-upgrade to the se using a fresh disk help? Sorry for all the questions
> > just trying to sort this problem out so i can use the emax to sample/record.
> > Any suggestion would be very helpful!
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Re: [emax] Re: static white noise sound on top of EMAX 1 RACKMOUNT samples

2013-03-27 by Ted Summers

You can have a grounded 3 wire plug on a unit and one (or more) of the
following can also be true:
1) The ground lead is disconnected in the unit.
Should connect to metalwork / chassis, and also a tab on the power supply
itself.
This is the green wire inside the unit.


2) The ground in your wall actually isn't connected- you have to check this
with a unit that plugs into your wall outlet.
They usually have 3 lights to indicate any miswire / condition - typically
available at hardware stores / home improvement centers.
If this is the case you now have a "floating ground" - no true ground at
all.
Many homes may have this on a couple of outlets, and people may not even be
aware of it....

3) Ground reference issues- use a "ground loop isolator" which plugs into
the line level inputs / outputs.
These remove hum, etc.

-T


On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Martin <martinantill@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Thanks for your swift reply Ted! I will check that over i think you right
> about the power lead aka kettle lead as found on a water kettle.
> While playback the hiss occasionally gets louder or dissapears. ive
> checked leads etc and made sure there not crossing other power leads.
> If it were a ground difference or my machine needs to grounded how would i
> go about doing this? Isnt a plug grounded allready? sorry for confusion.
> Thanks
>
>
> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, Ted Summers <djtbs1@...> wrote:
> >
> > reseat all the IC's on the audio board that are socketed.
> > you may have a bad connection to a chip.
> > you may also have a floating ground or voltage on the ground from a bad
> > wire / cable that you are using to sample in, or also a ground difference
> > level between your input device and the emax.
> >
> > As stated before SE disk does not update anything else or make any other
> > changes.
> > the SE update disk only updates bits in an EEPROM IC that holds
> calibration
> > parameters and the like.
> > Not the system firmware EPROM.
> > - the Emax has no circuit / capability to update the main system firmware
> > EPROM, unlike newer video cards and pc motherboards that have that kind
> of
> > capability (flash update).
> >
> > But again I don't think that the SE update is your issue.
> >
> >
> > I don't know what is meant by "kettle lead" ???....
> >
> > If it plays fine with a previously sampled sound, it doesn't make any
> sense
> > to blame the power supply.
> > If the power supply were injecting something into the circuit, I would
> > expect you would hear it at other times, not just sampling but also
> > playback.
> > as to some harsh sound when you power up, you may have a bad solder
> causing
> > an arc on the power supply, it's connector, or power switch COULD be
> going
> > bad.
> >
> > There is no way to know it without seeing the unit.
> >
> > If you don't know electronics, you should have someone with electronics
> > repair knowledge look at it (Jammie is in the UK as I see you are also,
> per
> > your email address)
> >
> > Suggest you contact him and have him take a look.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ted Summers
> > Emax Yahoo! Users Group Co-Moderator
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Martin <martinantill@...> wrote:
> >
> > > **
>
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi All can someone help me as my emax 1 rack is petty useless to me as
> is.
> > > someone previously posted this on my behalf and i still have the same
> > > problem after calibration using the diagnostics sheet.
> > > I cant seem to record or play samples without a high freq white
> > > noise/static/hiss sound on top of the samples!? other than the SE disk
> with
> > > sounds already on and any other factory disks(they play without noise
> and
> > > the machine works perfect.)
> > > It hasnt allways done this i used to be able to record without this
> noise
> > > on top and all of a sudden it started acting up.Iv tried pretty much
> > > everything calibrating,new os 1.1 3.2 and SE 1.1 on new disks made with
> > > EXMP,Checked filters, sample rate adrs etc.Copied the working SE disk
> to a
> > > formatted disk and then deleted the sounds then recording into it but
> still
> > > the bad sound!.
> > > I may have changed the kettle lead whilst moving could this be the
> > > ploblem? Is there a specific spec for the emax power lead? or Is there
> a
> > > setting/effect in the machine that could be the cause of this
> hiss/static?
> > > Note with the lp filter i can filter out the white noise. the previous
> > > owner told me the machine is not faulty if you can filter out the
> noise you
> > > may have corrupted the disk/samples?.
> > >
> > > Theres allways a harsh ripping noise or click when i turn the machine
> > > on.Im thinking there may be something wrong with the power supply or
> lead?.
> > > Or Could it be ive used a disk that has corrupted the machine/os?? or
> > > upgraded to the se twice and corrupted the machine?.
> > > Once you have upgraded to SE can you use only disks with SE 1.1 on
> them?
> > > or can you use other disks as long as there a EMAX os? ie 1.1 3.2 etc.
> > > would formatting the machine back to original settngs then i can
> > > re-upgrade to the se using a fresh disk help? Sorry for all the
> questions
> > > just trying to sort this problem out so i can use the emax to
> sample/record.
> > > Any suggestion would be very helpful!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>  
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: static white noise sound on top of EMAX 1 RACKMOUNT samples

2013-03-28 by Martin

Thanks for the clarification i will look into it. 

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, Ted Summers <djtbs1@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> You can have a grounded 3 wire plug on a unit and one (or more) of the
> following can also be true:
> 1) The ground lead is disconnected in the unit.
> Should connect to metalwork / chassis, and also a tab on the power supply
> itself.
> This is the green wire inside the unit.
> 
> 
> 2) The ground in your wall actually isn't connected- you have to check this
> with a unit that plugs into your wall outlet.
> They usually have 3 lights to indicate any miswire / condition - typically
> available at hardware stores / home improvement centers.
> If this is the case you now have a "floating ground" - no true ground at
> all.
> Many homes may have this on a couple of outlets, and people may not even be
> aware of it....
> 
> 3) Ground reference issues- use a "ground loop isolator" which plugs into
> the line level inputs / outputs.
> These remove hum, etc.
> 
> -T
> 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Martin <martinantill@...> wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> > Thanks for your swift reply Ted! I will check that over i think you right
> > about the power lead aka kettle lead as found on a water kettle.
> > While playback the hiss occasionally gets louder or dissapears. ive
> > checked leads etc and made sure there not crossing other power leads.
> > If it were a ground difference or my machine needs to grounded how would i
> > go about doing this? Isnt a plug grounded allready? sorry for confusion.
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, Ted Summers <djtbs1@> wrote:
> > >
> > > reseat all the IC's on the audio board that are socketed.
> > > you may have a bad connection to a chip.
> > > you may also have a floating ground or voltage on the ground from a bad
> > > wire / cable that you are using to sample in, or also a ground difference
> > > level between your input device and the emax.
> > >
> > > As stated before SE disk does not update anything else or make any other
> > > changes.
> > > the SE update disk only updates bits in an EEPROM IC that holds
> > calibration
> > > parameters and the like.
> > > Not the system firmware EPROM.
> > > - the Emax has no circuit / capability to update the main system firmware
> > > EPROM, unlike newer video cards and pc motherboards that have that kind
> > of
> > > capability (flash update).
> > >
> > > But again I don't think that the SE update is your issue.
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't know what is meant by "kettle lead" ???....
> > >
> > > If it plays fine with a previously sampled sound, it doesn't make any
> > sense
> > > to blame the power supply.
> > > If the power supply were injecting something into the circuit, I would
> > > expect you would hear it at other times, not just sampling but also
> > > playback.
> > > as to some harsh sound when you power up, you may have a bad solder
> > causing
> > > an arc on the power supply, it's connector, or power switch COULD be
> > going
> > > bad.
> > >
> > > There is no way to know it without seeing the unit.
> > >
> > > If you don't know electronics, you should have someone with electronics
> > > repair knowledge look at it (Jammie is in the UK as I see you are also,
> > per
> > > your email address)
> > >
> > > Suggest you contact him and have him take a look.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Ted Summers
> > > Emax Yahoo! Users Group Co-Moderator
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Martin <martinantill@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > **
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi All can someone help me as my emax 1 rack is petty useless to me as
> > is.
> > > > someone previously posted this on my behalf and i still have the same
> > > > problem after calibration using the diagnostics sheet.
> > > > I cant seem to record or play samples without a high freq white
> > > > noise/static/hiss sound on top of the samples!? other than the SE disk
> > with
> > > > sounds already on and any other factory disks(they play without noise
> > and
> > > > the machine works perfect.)
> > > > It hasnt allways done this i used to be able to record without this
> > noise
> > > > on top and all of a sudden it started acting up.Iv tried pretty much
> > > > everything calibrating,new os 1.1 3.2 and SE 1.1 on new disks made with
> > > > EXMP,Checked filters, sample rate adrs etc.Copied the working SE disk
> > to a
> > > > formatted disk and then deleted the sounds then recording into it but
> > still
> > > > the bad sound!.
> > > > I may have changed the kettle lead whilst moving could this be the
> > > > ploblem? Is there a specific spec for the emax power lead? or Is there
> > a
> > > > setting/effect in the machine that could be the cause of this
> > hiss/static?
> > > > Note with the lp filter i can filter out the white noise. the previous
> > > > owner told me the machine is not faulty if you can filter out the
> > noise you
> > > > may have corrupted the disk/samples?.
> > > >
> > > > Theres allways a harsh ripping noise or click when i turn the machine
> > > > on.Im thinking there may be something wrong with the power supply or
> > lead?.
> > > > Or Could it be ive used a disk that has corrupted the machine/os?? or
> > > > upgraded to the se twice and corrupted the machine?.
> > > > Once you have upgraded to SE can you use only disks with SE 1.1 on
> > them?
> > > > or can you use other disks as long as there a EMAX os? ie 1.1 3.2 etc.
> > > > would formatting the machine back to original settngs then i can
> > > > re-upgrade to the se using a fresh disk help? Sorry for all the
> > questions
> > > > just trying to sort this problem out so i can use the emax to
> > sample/record.
> > > > Any suggestion would be very helpful!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Re: static white noise sound on top of EMAX 1 RACKMOUNT samples

2014-11-26 by cbutera23@...

I have the same problem in my EMAX, when I trigger samples there is static white-noise digital garbed mess that plays over the sample intermittently. It doesn't do it all the time, but I noticed the more samples I am triggering the more it happens. Also it is pre filter in the signal chain, so it is on the osc level. At first I thought it was just recording that mess instead of the source material when I sampled, but then as it became intermittent, I noticed the source material was fine. Have you discovered the cause or been able to eliminate it by re-seating all the chips?

Re: [emax] Re: static white noise sound on top of EMAX 1 RACKMOUNT samples

2014-11-26 by emma

Caused by bad 12 bit dac

First remove dacs and clean with deoxit and a fibre glass brush then reset if it still does it

Defeat the voices until you find the voice that is problematic

Once found try a known good chip and see if the problem goes away if it does then its a bad dac

Thats the easiest way if you dont have a scope and logic analyzer


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-------- Original message --------
From: "cbutera23@yahoo.com [emax]" <emax@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 26/11/2014 04:46 (GMT+00:00)
To: emax@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [emax] Re: static white noise sound on top of EMAX 1 RACKMOUNT samples


I have the same problem in my EMAX, when I trigger samples there is static white-noise digital garbed mess that plays over the sample intermittently. It doesn't do it all the time, but I noticed the more samples I am triggering the more it happens. Also it is pre filter in the signal chain, so it is on the osc level. At first I thought it was just recording that mess instead of the source material when I sampled, but then as it became intermittent, I noticed the source material was fine. Have you discovered the cause or been able to eliminate it by re-seating all the chips?

Re: [emax] Re: static white noise sound on top of EMAX 1 RACKMOUNT samples

2014-11-26 by emma

Amd 12bit dac 20 pin

I have spares as I have had to replace some on various machines I have serviced this year where do you live


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-------- Original message --------
From: "cbutera23@yahoo.com [emax]" <emax@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 26/11/2014 13:41 (GMT+00:00)
To: emax@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [emax] Re: static white noise sound on top of EMAX 1 RACKMOUNT samples


Thank you very much. Do you know what chip # it is if I have to replace?

Re: [emax] Re: static white noise sound on top of EMAX 1 RACKMOUNT samples

2014-11-26 by JAMIE logan

only the later versions of the emax had thud protection

this is a relay only on the stereo outs

if your only getting it on the input of the samples then it could be the 12bit dac but there is also a dbx that corp blackmere vca and an antialising filter chip before the dac

if the vca becomes faulty you can get static the chip is no longer made but the new version can be installed with a resistor change on the feedback

ill get the chips involved for the input section you can swap out the dac with one of the voice dacs as it is the same chip and see if this cures the problem being the dacs fault

if that dont work your going to need a scope and logic analyzer to see whats going on visually and cross referenced with the ic data sheet to see if its signals are with in spec

a member nick had the same problem and he could never get it quiet i had to do a cap change and replace 4 dacs but because i got a cache we just changed all of them for good measure with newer date codes

and it was quiet then but i did need the scope and logic analyzer for this to see what was happening as just changing parts is counter productive as the part might be ok and the problem is else where
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On 26 November 2014 at 14:58, emma <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
Amd 12bit dac 20 pin

I have spares as I have had to replace some on various machines I have serviced this year where do you live


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Amd 12bit dac 20 pin

I have spares as I have had to replace some on various machines I have serviced this year where do you live


Sent from Samsung Mobile


-------- Original message --------
From: "cbutera23@... [emax]" <emax@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 26/11/2014 13:41 (GMT+00:00)
To: emax@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [emax] Re: static white noise sound on top of EMAX 1 RACKMOUNT samples


Thank you very much. Do you know what chip # it is if I have to replace?


Thank you very much. Do you know what chip # it is if I have to replace?



Re: [emax] Re: static white noise sound on top of EMAX 1 RACKMOUNT samples

2014-11-27 by cbutera23@...

Are they on the motherboard, or the board with the analog outputs? I have an Emax Rack HD that wouldn't power up, so I switched the D/A Board with my Emax SE keyboard that was having the static, and now the static is worse. At first it was 7 of the 8 voices playing with static, and only one of the 8 playing the sample clean. After a few minutes it went back to the same noise on every 3rd or 4th voice. I guess the DAC's would have to be on the mainboard then right?

Re: [emax] Re: static white noise sound on top of EMAX 1 RACKMOUNT samples

2014-11-29 by JAMIE logan

thats normal from the separate outs as each one is from a voice of the echip

so it needs to have 8 presses between each note press unless
you defeat channels to the actual channel

if its only on the stereo channel the stereo channel has left and right channel from each voice chip its the filter voice chip has a 4 pole filter and 3 vca

one vca is for the vca contour the other 2 are panning vca and the direct out is before the panning vca which is all incorporated inside the filter voice chip

after the voice chip the left right signal go to a resistor summing network and the to a ne5532 opamp if the single outputs are ok then it could be the cv 8bit dac that is at fault i have had several voiceboards with bad cv dacs

and only the sound was coming out of one channel and was noisy

i have also had to change the ne5532 opamp

again i used a logic analyzer and a scope to find these problems
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On 28 November 2014 at 03:06, cbutera23@... [emax] <emax@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I isolated the problem to only the stereo outs. I I can assign sounds to the other outputs, but there still must be dead voice chips too, because when I assign sound to some of the outputs I have to hit the key a few times before the sample will play.


Re: [emax] Re: static white noise sound on top of EMAX 1 RACKMOUNT samples

2014-12-02 by cbutera23@...

Do you do repairs on Emax's? I was wrong about everything I said. The sound is reoocoring no matter what I do, and the Emax is useless to me without professional help at this point... I also have the Emax rack that won't power up even after replacing the power supply. I would like to get both of them working if possible.

Re: [emax] Re: static white noise sound on top of EMAX 1 RACKMOUNT samples

2014-12-02 by JAMIE logan

i live in the uk i can repair them but it could be costly for postage ted summers lives in usa and might be a cheaper option but i can repair them at component level and sort your problems out i also keep stock inventory


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On 2 December 2014 at 14:55, cbutera23@... [emax] <emax@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Do you do repairs on Emax's? I was wrong about everything I said. The sound is reoocoring no matter what I do, and the Emax is useless to me without professional help at this point... I also have the Emax rack that won't power up even after replacing the power supply. I would like to get both of them working if possible.


Slim floppy and cf card reader?

2014-12-03 by J

Is there anyone currently willing to sell a slimline floppy and cf card reader that works with the Emax?
Sent from my iPhone
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> On Dec 2, 2014, at 9:01 AM, "JAMIE logan jammie.emma@... [emax]" <emax@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> i live in the uk i can repair them but it could be costly for postage ted summers lives in usa and might be a cheaper option but i can repair them at component level and sort your problems out i also keep stock inventory 
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>> On 2 December 2014 at 14:55, cbutera23@... [emax] <emax@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>> Do you do repairs on Emax's? I was wrong about everything I said. The sound is reoocoring no matter what I do, and the Emax is useless to me without professional help at this point... I also have the Emax rack that won't power up even after replacing the power supply. I would like to get both of them working if possible.
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Re: Slim floppy and cf card reader?

2014-12-03 by duncanmalashock@...

Hi there,

I have a PCD-50B card reader, a TEAC FD05 floppy drive and a

JM215A adapter that I'd be willing to sell you. Contact me at duncanmalashock@gmail.com.


Best,

Duncan

Re: static white noise sound on top of EMAX 1 RACKMOUNT samples

2015-01-04 by nick@...

Hi All. I am getting distortion on voice 7. With Dynamic Allocation on if I go to Master > Special > Disable Channels and disable 7 my problem goes away. Does the Emax have a memory battery to store its settings? Until I fix this problem I have to go in each time I turn it on and disable voice 7. But I don't see a coin type batter on the PCBs.

Which board is the audio board? I see CPU PCB and Analog PCB (probably this one since it has the audio outs?)

I don't want to try an reset all of them since the rest of the voice are good. Does anyone know which IC go to which voices?

If it is the Analog PBC it looks like each voice has 1 pair of ICs since there are 16 of them. The top row is labeled IC 30 through IC 37. Bottom row is labeled IC 30 through 37.

If it is the CPU PCB these are labeled IC 34 through IC 53.


Re: [emax] Re: static white noise sound on top of EMAX 1 RACKMOUNT samples

2015-01-04 by Ted Summers

You should be looking at Analog PCB.

It can be a bad connection on the ICs or a bad chip.


IC 25 (6012 DAC) and IC 36 (SSM 2047) would be relevant.

Move them to another pair and see:
- does the problem go away? --- likely bad connection on the IC pins
- does the problem move to other channel where you moved it? - bad IC(s).

Regards,
Ted


On Jan 3, 2015, at 4:06 PM, nick@... [emax] wrote:


Hi All. I am getting distortion on voice 7. With Dynamic Allocation on if I go to Master > Special > Disable Channels and disable 7 my problem goes away. Does the Emax have a memory battery to store its settings? Until I fix this problem I have to go in each time I turn it on and disable voice 7. But I don't see a coin type batter on the PCBs.

Which board is the audio board? I see CPU PCB and Analog PCB (probably this one since it has the audio outs?)

I don't want to try an reset all of them since the rest of the voice are good. ;Does anyone know which IC go to which voices?

If it is the Analog PBC it looks like each voice has 1 pair of ICs since there are 16 of them. The top row is labeled IC 30 through IC 37. Bottom row is labeled IC 30 through 37.

If it is the CPU PCB these are labeled IC 34 through IC 53.




Re: [emax] Re: static white noise sound on top of EMAX 1 RACKMOUNT samples

2015-01-04 by nick@...

Thanks Ted! Re-seating those two ICs worked!

For future reference can you let me know which voices correspond to which ICs? Is there a page in the service manual that I can refer to?


---In emax@yahoogroups.com, <djtbs1@...> wrote :

You should be looking at Analog PCB.

It can be a bad connection on the ICs or a bad chip.


IC 25 (6012 DAC) and IC 36 (SSM 2047) would be relevant.

Move them to another pair and see:
- does the problem go away? --- likely bad connection on the IC pins
- does the problem move to other channel where you moved it? - bad IC(s).

Regards,
Ted


On Jan 3, 2015, at 4:06 PM, nick@... [emax] wrote:


Hi All. I am getting distortion on voice 7. With Dynamic Allocation on if I go to Master > Special > Disable Channels and disable 7 my problem goes away. Does the Emax have a memory battery to store its settings? Until I fix this problem I have to go in each time I turn it on and disable voice 7. But I don't see a coin type batter on the PCBs.

Which board is the audio board? I see CPU PCB and Analog PCB (probably this one since it has the audio outs?)

I don't want to try an reset all of them since the rest of the voice are good. Does anyone know which IC go to which voices?

If it is the Analog PBC it looks like each voice has 1 pair of ICs since there are 16 of them. The top row is labeled IC 30 through IC 37. Bottom row is labeled IC 20 through 27.

If it is the CPU PCB these are labeled IC 34 through IC 53.




Re: [emax] static white noise sound on top of EMAX 1 RACKMOUNT samples

2015-01-05 by Ted Summers

Each output channel has a different page in the schematics manual.
Though the circuits are the same.

There's a mistake in the manual I see now… The manual shows IC 25 for Channel 6 and 7… Obviously that's wrong… correct listing below.

Channel 1 IC 20, 30
Channel 2 IC 21, 31
Channel 3 IC 22, 32
Channel 4 IC 23, 33
Channel 5 IC 24, 34
Channel 6 IC 25, 35
Channel 7 IC 26, 36
Channel 8 IC 27, 37

So reseating 36 is likely what fixed it for you.

-T









On Jan 4, 2015, at 2:40 PM, nick@... [emax] wrote:

Thanks Ted! Re-seating those two ICs worked!


For future reference can you let me know which voices correspond to which ICs? Is there a page in the service manual that I can refer to?


---In emax@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

You should be looking at Analog PCB.

It can be a bad connection on the ICs or a bad chip.


IC 25 (6012 DAC) and IC 36 (SSM 2047) would be relevant.

Move them to another pair and see:
- does the problem go away? --- likely bad connection on the IC pins
- does the problem move to other channel where you moved it? - bad IC(s).

Regards,
Ted


On Jan 3, 2015, at 4:06 PM, nick@... [emax] wrote:


Hi All. I am getting distortion on voice 7. With Dynamic Allocation on if I go to Master > Special >; Disable Channels and disable 7 my problem goes away. Does the Emax have a memory battery to store its settings? Until I fix this problem I have to go in each time I turn it on and disable voice 7. But I don't see a coin type batter on the PCBs.

Which board is the audio board? I see CPU PCB and Analog PCB (probably this one since it has the audio outs?)

I don't want to try an reset all of them since the rest of the voice are good. Does anyone know which IC go to which voices?

If it is the Analog PBC it looks like each voice has 1 pair of ICs since there are 16 of them. The top row is labeled IC 30 through IC 37. Bottom row is labeled IC 20 through 27.

If it is the CPU PCB these are labeled IC 34 through IC 53.






Re: [emax] static white noise sound on top of EMAX 1 RACKMOUNT samples

2015-01-09 by JAMIE logan

bad dac replace the 12bit dac i have spares i just got back from holiday

so if you need one i can get one to you


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On 5 January 2015 at 06:38, Ted Summers djtbs1@... [emax] <emax@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Each output channel has a different page in the schematics manual.

Though the circuits are the same.

There's a mistake in the manual I see now… The manual shows IC 25 for Channel 6 and 7… Obviously that's wrong… correct listing below.

Channel 1 IC 20, 30
Channel 2 IC 21, 31
Channel 3 IC 22, 32
Channel 4 IC 23, 33
Channel 5 IC 24, 34
Channel 6 IC 25, 35
Channel 7 IC 26, 36
Channel 8 IC 27, 37

So reseating 36 is likely what fixed it for you.

-T









On Jan 4, 2015, at 2:40 PM, nick@... [emax] wrote:

Thanks Ted! Re-seating those two ICs worked!


For future reference can you let me know which voices correspond to which ICs? Is there a page in the service manual that I can refer to?


---In emax@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

You should be looking at Analog PCB.

It can be a bad connection on the ICs or a bad chip.


IC 25 (6012 DAC) and IC 36 (SSM 2047) would be relevant.

Move them to another pair and see:
- does the problem go away? --- likely bad connection on the IC pins
- does the problem move to other channel where you moved it? - bad IC(s).

Regards,
Ted


On Jan 3, 2015, at 4:06 PM, nick@... [emax] wrote:


Hi All. I am getting distortion on voice 7. With Dynamic Allocation on if I go to Master > Special > Disable Channels and disable 7 my problem goes away. Does the Emax have a memory battery to store its settings? Until I fix this problem I have to go in each time I turn it on and disable voice 7. But I don't see a coin type batter on the PCBs.

Which board is the audio board? I see CPU PCB and Analog PCB (probably this one since it has the audio outs?)

I don't want to try an reset all of them since the rest of the voice are good. Does anyone know which IC go to which voices?

If it is the Analog PBC it looks like each voice has 1 pair of ICs since there are 16 of them. The top row is labeled IC 30 through IC 37. Bottom row is labeled IC 20 through 27.

If it is the CPU PCB these are labeled IC 34 through IC 53.







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