EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Hiya, 

   I imagine this may have been discussed before but I cant find it
searching on Yahoo. My EXS sample patches have always taken 4-5 secs
to load up on selection and I'd always put it down to the fact that 
my old B&W G3 wasnt that quick. Ive just moved tto a new Dual 867
now however and the speeds the same!?!? After a lot of swearing and
experimentation, I've found that its because I move the aiff files
for the CD's I've converted to a different location to where they
were put during the conversion. (I always put the samples with the
instrument files so I can archive each *converted* CD to CDR so I 
dont have to go through the conversion again on reinstall) 

  Does anyone know if I can force EXS to 'learn' all the new 
locations to get back the faster loading times? It seems a very high
price to pay for not leaving samples in the default location... :-(
Having all the samples all in a mess in one folder is not very
appealing to me...

Ta,

~Pev

Thoughts from the mind of no_such_user, 21-08-2002:

>   Does anyone know if I can force EXS to 'learn' all the new
>locations to get back the faster loading times? It seems a very high
>price to pay for not leaving samples in the default location... :-(
>Having all the samples all in a mess in one folder is not very
>appealing to me...

A tip I got from Sascha some time back: set up a midi command for 
"next instrument", in the EXS preferences.  In the EXS load the 1st 
instrument in your instrument list.  In Logic create a short sequence 
that contains the 'next instr' command just once and assign the track 
to an EXS instance.  Set the sequence to loop (or enable cycle), and 
press play -- and go and have a long, long coffee break.
The EXS will load all instruments in turn, updating the .exs files 
(re: location of the samples) in the process.  Can take a few hours 
though, if you have many instrument, so you might wwant to do this 
overnight, or while watching a movie or so.

-- 
Hendrik Jan Veenstra  <h@...>
Omega Art: http://www.ision.nl/users/h/index.html

--- Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...> wrote: 
> (re: location of the samples) in the process.  Can take a few hours 
> though, if you have many instrument, so you might wwant to do this 
> overnight, or while watching a movie or so.
Hey, thanks thats a good tip - I didnt realise it updated after 
loading the instrument. However I sometimes get converted samples 
with multiple AIFF files (argh!) of the same name where it requests
a manual selection prior to loading up. I assume this will shaft
the whole procedure?

Oh well, another one for the FAQ....

Ta,

~Pev

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Thoughts from the mind of Pev, 21-08-2002:

>--- Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...> wrote:
>>  (re: location of the samples) in the process.  Can take a few hours
>>  though, if you have many instrument, so you might wwant to do this
>>  overnight, or while watching a movie or so.
>Hey, thanks thats a good tip - I didnt realise it updated after
>loading the instrument. However I sometimes get converted samples
>with multiple AIFF files (argh!) of the same name where it requests
>a manual selection prior to loading up. I assume this will shaft
>the whole procedure?

Yeah, that's a problem indeed.  While watching the movie and having 
your coffee, you have to cast a glance at your monitor from time to 
time to see if there's a dialog up, asking for input...

If you know which folder of instruments will run into this problem, 
you could start out by removing that folder from the exs-instr 
folder, do the suggested trick, and then re-add the folder.  Then 
pick the 1st instr from this folder, do the suggested trick once 
more, but this time stay at the computer to catch any dialogs that 
will pop up.  Stop Logic's cycling-command as soon as the newly added 
folder has been processed.

-- 
Hendrik Jan Veenstra  <h@...>
Omega Art: http://www.ision.nl/users/h/index.html

Pev wrote:

>However I sometimes get converted samples
> with multiple AIFF files (argh!) of the same name where it requests
> a manual selection prior to loading up. I assume this will shaft
> the whole procedure?

Yes and no.
Get yourself some tool to find duplicate files. On Windows there's Clonespy,
it's free, I bet there must be something similar for Macs as well. The good
(no, even required) thing is that it doesn't only look for names but for
filesizes too (exactly what the EXS does). Clonespy offers an option to move
all doubled files to a folder of your choice - so in the end you don't risk
loosing anything. On Windows you can also move them to your recycle bin, do
the EXS job and after that say "restore" to the samples in your trash.

Apart from that, it's allways a good idea to find doubled samples - very
often you may not need them.

Regards,
Sascha

I have been using a Proteus/2 for orchestral sounds for years, mainly
strings. But I am thinking I could probably do better with some ESX24
collections (and the benefit of staying in Logic to work!)

I would like to hear the listers opinions on the best orchestral
collections: mainly strings, but woodwinds as well. Expense is a
concern...ideally I could buy what I need by selling the Proteus/2.
Thanks!


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