EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Hi all,
Is the transition from logic 5 to Logic 6 a fairly smooth one.  I'm in 
the middle of a CD project....to I'm hesitant to jump...but the newer 
version offers some features that could be very useful for the 
project...

My setup is fairly simple....I use the EXS heavily and a couple of 
hardware samplers to pick up the overflow...I'm on a G4 laptop with 
1Ghz processor and a gig of ram....a VX pocket for audio.

Thanks for any input...

julie

At 07:26 PM 07/15/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>Is the transition from logic 5 to Logic 6 a fairly smooth one.  I'm in
>the middle of a CD project....to I'm hesitant to jump...but the newer
>version offers some features that could be very useful for the
>project...
>
>My setup is fairly simple....I use the EXS heavily and a couple of
>hardware samplers to pick up the overflow...I'm on a G4 laptop with
>1Ghz processor and a gig of ram....a VX pocket for audio.
>
>Thanks for any input...


Julie-

I just finished it tonight, and with the exception of the Emagic website 
not recognizing my type B activation code (I mailed in the card instead), 
all went smooth as silk. I haven't had time to torture test it yet, but the 
basic install to 6.0 and 6.1 went quickly, and my autoload song opens with 
all the proper settings, EXS and VST instruments in place. You have to move 
or copy all your critical folders to the new Logic 6 folder, of course. 
And, as always, your previous installation remains untouched so you can go 
back if you have any problems.

Sean McCoy
Oregon Sound Recording

Hi Julie, I was in the exact same position and reluctant to switch versions 
in mid project...however, my itchy fingers got the best of me and after a 
few initial hassles(make sure to rebuild desktop after installing the new 
version) I couldn't be happier w the 6.1 - the freeze function is way cool 
when you've got just a couple too many exs:es taxing the cpu etc., the 
groups are great... that's my two bits worth...I''m on a G4/667MHz until my 
G5 Dual 2GIG arrives shortly.best,micke
p.s. are you on the 17" laptop? happy with its performance?

>Hi all,
>Is the transition from logic 5 to Logic 6 a fairly smooth one.  I'm in
>the middle of a CD project....to I'm hesitant to jump...but the newer
>version offers some features that could be very useful for the
>project...
>
>My setup is fairly simple....I use the EXS heavily and a couple of
>hardware samplers to pick up the overflow...I'm on a G4 laptop with
>1Ghz processor and a gig of ram....a VX pocket for audio.
>
>Thanks for any input...
>
>julie
>

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On a fine day, 15-07-2003, Julie Larson wrote:

>Is the transition from logic 5 to Logic 6 a fairly smooth one.  I'm in
>the middle of a CD project....to I'm hesitant to jump...but the newer
>version offers some features that could be very useful for the
>project...

No problem at all.  The only thing that always bothers me is the 
Plug-In settings folder.  I have quite a few settings in them, and am 
reluctant to replace the new install with my own (old install) folder 
-- I always scan each folder, 1 by 1, to make sure the new install 
doesn't contain any new stuff I wouldn't want to miss.  Actually, the 
v6 install contains a lot of new presets for the free built-in 
instruments (ES M/P/E), so simply overwriting the new folder with the 
old one probably isn't such a good idea.  For the rest: going from 5 
to 6 has been absolutely problem free.  No crash yet.

>My setup is fairly simple....I use the EXS heavily and a couple of
>hardware samplers to pick up the overflow...

You're gonna love the Channel EQ and the (overflow...) Freeze 
function -- 2 features that each are worth the price of the upgrade 
alone.

-- 
Hendrik Jan Veenstra   h @ k n o w a r e . n l
Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/

> Hi all,
> Is the transition from logic 5 to Logic 6 a fairly smooth one.  I'm in
> the middle of a CD project....to I'm hesitant to jump...but the newer
> version offers some features that could be very useful for the
> project...
> 
> My setup is fairly simple....I use the EXS heavily and a couple of
> hardware samplers to pick up the overflow...I'm on a G4 laptop with
> 1Ghz processor and a gig of ram....a VX pocket for audio.
> 
> Thanks for any input...
> 
> julie

in your setup you didn't mention if you are on os x or 9.

if on 9. keep in mind that emagic broke a few things with v6. and i would
not recommend moving towards 6 if in the middle of a project.

especially if on a powerbook with limited screen you will find that the
"minimize-window" funkion of os 9 is broken which makes v6 useless, for me
at least.

emagic does not seem fix this as it is a way to push people towards x fast.

Thanks everyone,
I guess I'll make the leap then.  Micke, I'm on a 15" laptop and it 
works amazingly well.

thanks again
julie



On Wednesday, July 16, 2003, at 01:20  AM, Micke Nilsson wrote:

> Hi Julie, I was in the exact same position and reluctant to switch 
> versions
> in mid project...however, my itchy fingers got the best of me and 
> after a
> few initial hassles(make sure to rebuild desktop after installing the 
> new
> version) I couldn't be happier w the 6.1 - the freeze function is way 
> cool
> when you've got just a couple too many exs:es taxing the cpu etc., the
> groups are great... that's my two bits worth...I''m on a G4/667MHz 
> until my
> G5 Dual 2GIG arrives shortly.best,micke
> p.s. are you on the 17" laptop? happy with its performance?
>
> >Hi all,
> >Is the transition from logic 5 to Logic 6 a fairly smooth one.  I'm in
> >the middle of a CD project....to I'm hesitant to jump...but the newer
> >version offers some features that could be very useful for the
> >project...
> >
> >My setup is fairly simple....I use the EXS heavily and a couple of
> >hardware samplers to pick up the overflow...I'm on a G4 laptop with
> >1Ghz processor and a gig of ram....a VX pocket for audio.
> >
> >Thanks for any input...
> >
> >julie
> >
>
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On a fine day, 16-07-2003, uswitalski@... wrote:

>  > Hi all,
>>  Is the transition from logic 5 to Logic 6 a fairly smooth one.  I'm in
>>  the middle of a CD project....to I'm hesitant to jump...but the newer
>>  version offers some features that could be very useful for the
>>  project...
>>
>>  My setup is fairly simple....I use the EXS heavily and a couple of
>>  hardware samplers to pick up the overflow...I'm on a G4 laptop with
>>  1Ghz processor and a gig of ram....a VX pocket for audio.
>>
>>  Thanks for any input...
>>
>>  julie
>
>in your setup you didn't mention if you are on os x or 9.
>
>if on 9. keep in mind that emagic broke a few things with v6. and i would
>not recommend moving towards 6 if in the middle of a project.
>
>especially if on a powerbook with limited screen you will find that the
>"minimize-window" funkion of os 9 is broken which makes v6 useless, for me
>at least.

Uhm, of course you're entitled to your opinion, but isn't it going a 
bit far to discard an otherwise wonderful upgrade because of a 
cosmetic problem?  It's not as if the audio engine is broken or 
anything, right?  And of course the window-issue is stupid and should 
be fixed, but I can't imagine it being a real show-stopper.  After 
all, you can always use screensets instead of minimizing windows, 
can't you?

>emagic does not seem fix this as it is a way to push people towards x fast.

Is this knowledge or speculation?

-- 
Hendrik Jan Veenstra   h @ k n o w a r e . n l
Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/

>especially if on a powerbook with limited screen you will find that the
>"minimize-window" funkion of os 9 is broken which makes v6 useless, for me
>at least.

Um, could someone tell me what this minimize-window problem is? Maybe 
I just got back from Venus or Mars, but I haven't noticed any 
problems in v6 that would make me want to go back.

Just a word of caution: it's worth spending a day to allow the 
Project manager to do its thing. It takes hours to scan all your 
drives, if if you have exclude certain paths, but there is a 
tremendous benefit in that you get way faster loading times for EXS24 
instruments, etc.

Regards - Colin

> Uhm, of course you're entitled to your opinion, but isn't it going a
> bit far to discard an otherwise wonderful upgrade because of a
> cosmetic problem?

user interface things are far behond "cosmetic" imho. they are the actual
link between you and your music, _in_ the computer.

> It's not as if the audio engine is broken or
> anything, right?  And of course the window-issue is stupid and should
> be fixed, but I can't imagine it being a real show-stopper.

not show stopper, but workflow stopper which is just as heavy from my
perspective.

> After 
> all, you can always use screensets instead of minimizing windows,
> can't you?

well, i might be missing it but whats your actions to edit an exs patch for
example?

for me its doubleclick on the exs insert which is opening the exs mainwindow
and then clickin on edit which is opening the instrument editor _behind_ the
exs window. next _has_ to be double click on the exs main window to acually
make use of the instrument editor.
please, if i am missing a keykommand or such to avoid doing this let me
know.

>> emagic does not seem fix this as it is a way to push people towards x fast.
> 
> Is this knowledge or speculation?

knowledge of buisiness plans. so you might say it's speculation.

;)

its the feeling of an app (for the user). and logics feeling (for the user,
hardcore-user that is), changed with v6 to "i am not supposed to be here
anymore" ... ;)

all of the above is not meant rant-wise, its just my perspective, a strong
one however.
cheers,

ulf.

On a fine day, 16-07-2003, uswitalski@... wrote:

>  > Uhm, of course you're entitled to your opinion, but isn't it going a
>>  bit far to discard an otherwise wonderful upgrade because of a
>>  cosmetic problem?
>
>user interface things are far behond "cosmetic" imho. they are the actual
>link between you and your music, _in_ the computer.

Agreed, up to a point. Still there's a difference between cosmetic 
and core-functionality imo.

>well, i might be missing it but whats your actions to edit an exs patch for
>example?

Double-click EXS insert, click 'edit', close EXS.  Cumbersome indeed. 
Or double-click EXS, click edit, drag edit window to 2nd monitor... 
But that's no option on a laptop of course.

>next _has_ to be double click on the exs main window to acually make 
>use of the instrument editor.

Or close the main EXS window...

>all of the above is not meant rant-wise, its just my perspective, a strong
>one however.

Yes, that much is clear :-).

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Hendrik Jan Veenstra   h @ k n o w a r e . n l
Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/

Thanks for the heads up on the project manager.  I'm already in 
installation mode... good time to do it

julie


On Wednesday, July 16, 2003, at 10:49  AM, Colin Shapiro wrote:

> >especially if on a powerbook with limited screen you will find that 
> the
> >"minimize-window" funkion of os 9 is broken which makes v6 useless, 
> for me
> >at least.
>
> Um, could someone tell me what this minimize-window problem is? Maybe
> I just got back from Venus or Mars, but I haven't noticed any
> problems in v6 that would make me want to go back.
>
> Just a word of caution: it's worth spending a day to allow the
> Project manager to do its thing. It takes hours to scan all your
> drives, if if you have exclude certain paths, but there is a
> tremendous benefit in that you get way faster loading times for EXS24
> instruments, etc.
>
> Regards - Colin
>
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Not that interesting, but the quickest way to reach those that tend 
to mail me in private: I'll be gone for a holiday until somwhere 
mid-August, so anyone sending me private mail will have to wait for a 
reply until then.  To all of you: have fun, don't fight, and TTY when 
I'm back.

Hendrik Jan

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Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/

the transition is pretty straight forward although I wouldn't use the 
project manager until you have some time between projects as it can 
slow down your work flow initially. Also go straight to 6.1 and not 6
Regards Rupert
www.logictoolbox.c