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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re:Tiny2313

2007-02-14 by David VanHorn

On 2/14/07, Mark Weston wrote: > > Thank you everyone for your responses. As it happens I have a 10mhz > crystal across 4 and 5 on the PCB already, with attendant 18pf caps to > GND. I'm going to remove the crystal and try the AVRDUDE command line fix, > that looks like the best

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Re:Tiny2313

2007-02-14 by Mark Weston

Thank you everyone for your responses. As it happens I have a 10mhz crystal across 4 and 5 on the PCB already, with attendant 18pf caps to GND. I'm going to remove the crystal and try the AVRDUDE command line fix, that looks like the best at this point. If that doesn't work, I'll

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Tiny2313

2007-02-14 by Kathy Quinlan

John Samperi wrote: > At 04:55 PM 14/02/2007, you wrote: >> You can solder 1 - 4MHz crystal to pins 4 and 5 and >> try to set the fuses back again. > > Cannot do that if the fuses are set for external oscillator, > only if external CRYSTAL oscillator has been selected. > > Regard

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Tiny2313

2007-02-14 by John Samperi

At 04:55 PM 14/02/2007, you wrote: >You can solder 1 - 4MHz crystal to pins 4 and 5 and >try to set the fuses back again. Cannot do that if the fuses are set for external oscillator, only if external CRYSTAL oscillator has been selected. Regards John Samperi *********************

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Tiny2313

2007-02-14 by Ori Y

Hi You can solder 1 - 4MHz crystal to pins 4 and 5 and try to set the fuses back again. then remove the crystal. good luck Ori --- weston54 wrote: > I have a Tiny2313 in an SOIC package soldered to a > PCB I made, along > with a 6 pin programming connector for my ISP MKII. > Ever

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Tiny2313

2007-02-14 by dlc

This nice link was passed to me on this topic: http://www.evilmadscientist.com/article.php/avrclockbits enjoy, DLC weston54 wrote: > I have a Tiny2313 in an SOIC package soldered to a PCB I made, along > with a 6 pin programming connector for my ISP MKII. Everything was > great u

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Tiny2313

2007-02-14 by AVR Development

I had to comment. That is a totally cool question and yeah, it made me wonder. I don't know, I've never done this but yeah, if there is no other route to solution then I would somehow inject a signal at the xtal intput. Hopefully, you can just inject the signal via a probe. You m

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Tiny2313

2007-02-14 by John Samperi

At 01:12 PM 14/02/2007, you wrote: >I accidentally set the fuse for an external oscillator. >Is there some way I can reset this? Ack!! You are not the first to do this :) Feed a 1MHz clock to X1 to give the chip a clock. The clock can be <> than 1MHz but make sure the you have th

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Tiny2313

2007-02-14 by weston54

I have a Tiny2313 in an SOIC package soldered to a PCB I made, along with a 6 pin programming connector for my ISP MKII. Everything was great until I accidentally set the fuse for an external oscillator. Now I get a failure 100% of the time with AVR Studio. Is there some way I ca

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Help Help :) AVR Dragon

2007-02-13 by David VanHorn

> > Yeah, I saw that you got it fixed. For some reason, it took 6 days for my > message to go through the list: My bad. Hadn't checked pending messages. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Help Help :) AVR Dragon

2007-02-12 by Kevin Rosenberg

AVR Development wrote: > Fixed days ago just like an hour or so after I posted. But yes, a common > mistake. I assumed the prototype area was wired in but it wasn't. I *love* > my AVR Dragon. I only wish it worked to 64K or better yet ideally for me to > 128K. Worx good. Yeah, I

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Help Help :) AVR Dragon

2007-02-12 by AVR Development

Kevin, Fixed days ago just like an hour or so after I posted. But yes, a common mistake. I assumed the prototype area was wired in but it wasn't. I *love* my AVR Dragon. I only wish it worked to 64K or better yet ideally for me to 128K. Worx good. Thanks. Barry -----Original Mess

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Re: [AVR-Chat] IBIS fiel help

2007-02-11 by Jim Wagner

Don't know of any. Jim On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:30:30 -0600 Thomas Keller wrote: > Thanks, Jim. Any pointers to open source packages that > could make use > of IBIS files? > > tom > > Jim Wagner wrote: > > > > As far as I know, IBIS is for a system-level > simulation: > > > > http:

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Re: [AVR-Chat] IBIS fiel help

2007-02-11 by Thomas Keller

Thanks, Jim. Any pointers to open source packages that could make use of IBIS files? tom Jim Wagner wrote: > > As far as I know, IBIS is for a system-level simulation: > > http://download.micron.com/pdf/technotes/TN0007.pdf > > > It is SPICE-like but includes circuits with very c

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Re: [AVR-Chat] IBIS fiel help

2007-02-11 by mohammad akbari

i figered it out but coudnt find out how can prevent app. from deleting files(including hex file). i thought if might be possible to write it directly into atmega16 ic but i think my programmer is corrupted and therefore didnt result. could u please perform it with the attached s

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Re: [AVR-Chat] IBIS fiel help

2007-02-11 by mohammad akbari

i figered it out but coudnt find out how can prevent app. from deleting files(including hex file). i thought if might be possible to write it directly into atmega16 ic but i think my programmer is corrupted and therefore didnt result. could u please perform it and if done success

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Re: [AVR-Chat] IBIS fiel help

2007-02-10 by Jim Wagner

As far as I know, IBIS is for a system-level simulation: http://download.micron.com/pdf/technotes/TN0007.pdf It is SPICE-like but includes circuits with very complex logic devices such as micros, CPLD, etc. You can describe the internal functionality of a device (the "code" it ru

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Re: [AVR-Chat] IBIS fiel help

2007-02-10 by Thomas Keller

OK, what is thr IBIS fiel for, then? tom Jim Wagner wrote: > > What do you propose to do with the IBIS file? I don't > think it will help in any way for programming. > >

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Re: Zigbee modules etc, etc

2007-02-10 by stevech11

ZigBee - I am guilty of assuming that Maxstream moved out of beta with Zigbee since it's "certified" now. I see they haven't. They have a huge number of beta testers. So a request may well be accepted. --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, dlc@... wrote: > > According to Maxtream thei

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: Zigbee modules etc, etc

2007-02-10 by dlc@frii.com

According to Maxtream their XBee modules are not true mesh, they have some beta mesh software that implements routers that aren't the coordinator as the mesh spec says, but it is beta. The shipping code does not support true mesh networking...Yet. DLC > re below... > ZigBee 1.0 i

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Re: Zigbee modules etc, etc

2007-02-09 by stevech11

re below... ZigBee 1.0 is a mesh by my definition: Nodes are configured with a network name. At power-up, every node seeks out its neighbors. A message from node A to node X may be relayed by zero or more nodes, mesh-like. ZigBee defines a "coordinator" node. This node manages ne

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Re: Zigbee modules etc, etc

2007-02-09 by stevech11

not sure why, at $19 for a module w/Zigbee you'd want to, you can roll your own meshed network. You can start with the public domain code from UCSB as I recall - part of the TinyOS work based on YEAH! AVRs. Some vendors (I won't name names) that are not in the ZigBee camp are ada

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Re: Zigbee modules etc, etc

2007-02-09 by stevech11

be sure to keep ZigBee separate from IEEE 802.15.4 which is the MAC/PHY spec to which the chips/modules are built. ZigBee is, so far, downloadable firmware as an option for the network layer. Some end-item manufacturers are using the '15.4 chips but their own network layer. ZigBe

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Re: [AVR-Chat] IBIS fiel help

2007-02-09 by Jim Wagner

What do you propose to do with the IBIS file? I don't think it will help in any way for programming. Jim Wagner On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 15:21:42 -0600 Thomas Keller wrote: > I downloaded the IBIS file for thr ATtiny25, but I > cannot figure out > where it shou;ld be place d in my fil

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: Zigbee modules etc, etc

2007-02-09 by Kathy Quinlan

Mark Nowell wrote: > I apologise that this has drifted way OT but I (very naively) thought > there might be an AVR-based answer to my question - now I'm beginning to > wonder if I've got to wait 6 months to a year for _any_ real mesh > networking solution. > > Mark This is not re

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IBIS fiel help

2007-02-09 by Thomas Keller

I downloaded the IBIS file for thr ATtiny25, but I cannot figure out where it shou;ld be place d in my filesystem. presumably somewhere under AVR Studio, but where? tom

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: Zigbee modules etc, etc

2007-02-09 by Thomas Keller

Well, according to the Zigbee Alliance, 4 vendors have qualified at the Gold level for interoperability and complete Zigbee implementation. TI/Chip conis one. You'll have to consult with Zigbee Alliance as to who the other three are. The Zigbee Alliance has an email newsletter/an

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Re: [AVR club] how can create a hex file from its assembly?

2007-02-09 by Zack Widup

On Fri, 9 Feb 2007, mohammad akbari wrote: > Hi, dear friend > I am an engineer and working on atmega series with > stk200/300 programer, do u know how to convert an > assembly file 2 its hex file? > > thanks and hope durable cooperation with u > If you go to Atmel's website and

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: Problems with TWI

2007-02-09 by John Samperi

At 09:59 PM 9/02/2007, you wrote: >but I havn't a JTAG, Then life becomes hard :) >is there another possibility than turning on some LED's? Hook up an RS232 interface chip to the USART and send some messages to the PC when certain events happen inside the slave. Not much differen

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: Zigbee modules etc, etc

2007-02-09 by larry barello

There is nothing stopping you from implementing your own "mesh" network - but it will be a ton of work... One of the Atmel Zigbee partners (in Russia) claims full mesh networking. They base their module off of a m128 + radio chip. The numbers are *very* good (makes the Xbee look

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: Zigbee modules etc, etc

2007-02-09 by Mark Nowell

Well I'm starting to think that Larry's "isn't quite ready for prime time" is about the only sensible explanation for all the evasion and mystery I'm encountering when trying to figure out which kit to use for Zigbee mesh-networking. We really need mesh networking if this is goin

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: Zigbee modules etc, etc

2007-02-09 by larry barello

The project I worked on doesn't say "Zigbee" in the documentation. We say "802.15.4" radio protocol. I just use the mac addressing in a star configuration with the end nodes sleeping most of the time. Mesh networking sound sexy but apparently isn't quite ready for prime time... U

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Freaks down?

2007-02-09 by Jim Wagner

Well, it looks like its back to what passes for "normal", hi hi. Jim On Fri, 9 Feb 2007 11:38:19 -0500 "David VanHorn" wrote: > On 2/9/07, Jim Wagner > wrote: > > > > When I try to connect, I get some message about > scheduled > > maintenance in August! > > > I get something that

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Freaks down?

2007-02-09 by Ranjit Puri

Freaks seems to be working fine for me ... On 2/9/07, Jim Wagner wrote: > > When I try to connect, I get some message about scheduled > maintenance in August! > > Jim > ---------------------------------------------------------- > The Think Different Store > http://www.thinkdiffer

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Freaks down?

2007-02-09 by David VanHorn

On 2/9/07, Jim Wagner wrote: > > When I try to connect, I get some message about scheduled > maintenance in August! I get something that looks like they forgot to pay for their domain name registration... Oh well, we're still here. [Non-text portions of this message have been rem

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Freaks down?

2007-02-09 by Jim Wagner

When I try to connect, I get some message about scheduled maintenance in August! Jim --------------------------------------------------------------- The Think Different Store http://www.thinkdifferentstore.com/ For All Your Mac Gear -----------------------------------------------

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: Zigbee modules etc, etc

2007-02-09 by dlc@frii.com

Now I'm confused. The manual specifically addresses sleep mode and indirect messaging in a non-beacon network. Is that then a custom XBee protocol that isn't Zigbee? In my conversations with Maxstream they don't even have mesh networking, only star networking since their Zigbee d

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Freaks down?

2007-02-09 by Leon

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Wagner" To: Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 4:21 PM Subject: [AVR-Chat] Freaks down? > When I try to connect, I get some message about scheduled > maintenance in August! They seem to have got the day of the month nearly right, though. The s

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: Zigbee modules etc, etc

2007-02-09 by Zack Widup

There are many antenna designs which "flatten" the pattern in the vertical direction in order to give more gain in the horizontal plane. They still have 360 degree coverage in the horizontal plane. The more you concentrate on this, the bigger they get, though. Zack On Thu, 8 Feb

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CodeWright 7.0

2007-02-09 by AVR Development

I understand that Borland has resurrected CodeWright 7. I really like CodeWright 7 and I'm going to do the $99 upgrade. How do you get CodeWright 7 to work as the default editor in AVR Studio? Also, you guys like CodeWright 7? Barry [Non-text portions of this message have been re

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: Zigbee modules etc, etc

2007-02-09 by Mark Nowell

I had a chat with MaxStream about the XBee modules (they were very helpful). To clarify the question of sleep mode: Me: I was looking at the XBee/Pro manual and it seems the Zigbee modules don't support sleep mode? MS: That is correct. The XBee's do not yet support a sleep mode w

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Re: Problems with TWI

2007-02-09 by andreaspaetsch

Thanks John, but I havn't a JTAG, is there another possibility than turning on some LED's? Andreas --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, John Samperi wrote: > > At 08:32 PM 8/02/2007, you wrote: > > But Error_write is "0" so I > >can't be shure, that the communikation is OK or not. >

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: Zigbee modules etc, etc

2007-02-09 by dlc

The blasted mating connector for the Maxstream XBee boards are 2mm pitch. Grr. If anyone has come up with graceful mating connectors for these I'd love to hear about it - Mine are all kludges. DLC Cat C wrote: > Thank you Steve, > > Is the mating connector something special, or i

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: Zigbee modules etc, etc

2007-02-09 by Cat C

>>>Antenna gain is easy to get, if you can stand the size. I don't know how I can get antenna gain without making it directional, and I can't have that. I don't care much about the vertical, but I need pretty much equal field all around it. Cat ___________________________________

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: Zigbee modules etc, etc

2007-02-09 by Cat C

Thank you Steve, Is the mating connector something special, or it could be made from IC sockets or headers? Just because I don't know where I would get the mating connectors... I'm not sure I understand the FW phrase: what comes on the module, and what would I need to load separa

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Re: Zigbee modules etc, etc

2007-02-09 by stevech11

yes, as said elsewhere in this thread, this is a 2mm pitch connector. The part number and suppliers for sockets are as I recall, in the XBee manuals/specs. I have some but a'int givin' 'em up! --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Cat C" wrote: > > Thank you Steve, > > Is the mating

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Re: Zigbee modules etc, etc

2007-02-09 by stevech11

You can purchase antennas that are omnidirectional on the horizontal but directional on the vertical. They have a pattern like a doughnut. The flatter the doughnut, the higher the gain. I have some that are 12dBi gain with 7 degree vertical beamwidth, but are omnidirectional on t

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Re: Zigbee modules etc, etc

2007-02-09 by stevech11

Re: Zigbee modules etc, etc I have the Maxstream Dev kit and a lot of modules (and some from other vendors too). The Maxstream dev kit gives you motherboards for the modules and these provide RS232 or USB plug and play. If you get the mating connector for the modules, you don't r

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updated stuff 4 sale..

2007-02-09 by timbomcnuckle

stuff 4 sale updated.... thanks to all who replied, I've made a deal on the CFkit and box(s) of IC's, the FPGA/image kits, the parallax kits, and the AT91 evalkit. Here is whats left... -Deihl Servomotor assembly- mid sized motor with geartrain, aluminum casing, steel gears, ball

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Re: Zigbee modules etc, etc

2007-02-09 by stevech11

Remember, use of the ZigBee network layer is optional in all these 802.15.4 modules. Without ZigBee it's like using Ethernet without IP - you can address packets by the MAC address. The current (about to change) ZigBee standard says that end-nodes (network leaf) can sleep. Router

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