Dave Smith Instruments SYNTHESIZERS

Hi, everyone.  Getting that first post out of the way.  I don't yet own 
an Evolver, but am considering getting one to use with my EWI4000S.  
Either an Evolver or a Blofeld - not sure which way I'll go.  Whichever 
is "wicked-er" I suppose.  I'll use the search function before asking a 
bunch of questions.

My synth background is ARP Odyssey, DW8000, Poly800, DX-11.  No soft 
synths - merely out of pure inexperience.  I am primarily a saxophone 
player, but I harbor no grudge against virtual instruments :)

Thanks for having me.  I promise I won't stink up the place.

- Ed

Hi there,

It depends on what your looking for... If you want 100% digital 
sound buy a Blofeld...if you want analogic and digital sound buy a 
Evolver. 

Im sure If you have a look at this picture 
http://www.hispasonic.com/noticias/tripas-digitales-waldorf-blofeld 
youll buy an Evolver :)

Regards!


--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Ed" <edzentera@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, everyone.  Getting that first post out of the way.  I don't 
yet own 
> an Evolver, but am considering getting one to use with my 
EWI4000S.  
> Either an Evolver or a Blofeld - not sure which way I'll go.  
Whichever 
> is "wicked-er" I suppose.  I'll use the search function before 
asking a 
> bunch of questions.
> 
> My synth background is ARP Odyssey, DW8000, Poly800, DX-11.  No 
soft 
> synths - merely out of pure inexperience.  I am primarily a 
saxophone 

> player, but I harbor no grudge against virtual instruments :)
> 
> Thanks for having me.  I promise I won't stink up the place.
> 
> - Ed
>

Hey Ed!

Being totally biased towards the evolver and never having used a
blofeld, I think the evolver would be a great choice to use with your
EWI. It's got a dedicated mod-slot for breath control as well as 4
other mod-slots in which you can have breath control as a modulation
source, so you wouldn't be lacking in expressive control. And if it's
'wickedness' you want, well, you really can't get much more wicked
than some of the sounds an evolver can make.

Anyhow, have fun in your research!

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Ed" <edzentera@...> wrote:

>
> Hi, everyone.  Getting that first post out of the way.  I don't yet own 
> an Evolver, but am considering getting one to use with my EWI4000S.  
> Either an Evolver or a Blofeld - not sure which way I'll go.  Whichever 
> is "wicked-er" I suppose.  I'll use the search function before asking a 
> bunch of questions.
> 
> My synth background is ARP Odyssey, DW8000, Poly800, DX-11.  No soft 
> synths - merely out of pure inexperience.  I am primarily a saxophone 
> player, but I harbor no grudge against virtual instruments :)
> 
> Thanks for having me.  I promise I won't stink up the place.
> 
> - Ed
>

Can a lower breath threshold be set for sustain/release - such that a 
fresh ADSR is triggered with actual articulation?

That's a bit unfair. Waldorf makes great synths. I had a uQ for a while, 
and loved it. And since the Blofeld can do tons more than a uQ, it will 
def be a killer synth! I'm hoping to be able to afford a Blofeld soon. I 
think it would compliment the dEVO nicely =o]



peter sedin wrote:

>
> blofeld compared to evolver is a toy.
>

I'm fairly certain Sustain isn't a destination in the modulation
slots, but Release is. So, not knowing exactly how EWIs work, I think
if you're not triggering any notes and lowering the breath amount,
then yes, you should be able to trigger a "fresh" envelope.

Also, VCA level is a modulation destination, so (again, I'm ignorant
about EWIs) theoretically you could control the amp envelope with
nothing but your breath amount! 

Back in high school I was a trumpet player, so there's definitely a
part of me that would love to use an EVI (or something that responds
to trumpet fingerings) with my evolver. 

And the comment about the Blofeld being a toy is nonsense. As long as
it has breath control as a mod source (and I'd assume it does), either
one of the synths you mentioned will give you tons of possibilities
and good sounds. 


--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Ed" <edzentera@...> wrote:

>
> Can a lower breath threshold be set for sustain/release - such that a 
> fresh ADSR is triggered with actual articulation?
>

Based on the Waldorf demos I've heard, there's a strong likelihood I'll 
eventually get one of those too. I can afford one but not both at the 
moment :)

Seems both allow for considerable editing and tweakage - I just want to 
be sure I get something that interfaces well with an EWI for the time 
being.

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, Computer Controlled <acidted@...> 
wrote:
>
> That's a bit unfair. Waldorf makes great synths. I had a uQ for a 
while, 
> and loved it. And since the Blofeld can do tons more than a uQ, it 
will 
> def be a killer synth! I'm hoping to be able to afford a Blofeld 
soon. I 

> think it would compliment the dEVO nicely =o]
> 
> 
> 
> peter sedin wrote:
> >
> > blofeld compared to evolver is a toy.
> >
>

Let me just say that I ve had the Evolver since it came out. And I ve recently purchased a blofeld. The blofeld is certainly no toy. It has some sick sick

> > peter sedin wrote:
> > >
> > > blofeld compared to evolver is a toy.
> > >
> >
The only part of the Blofeld that resembles a toy compared to the
eVOLver is the power supply.

I've had an MED for three months and a Blofeld for one week.  What the
Delay + Feedback is to the eVOLver, the Resonance + Drive is the
Blofeld.  If you like messing with filters, the Blofeld will keep you
entertained for years.

On second thought then, maybe the Blofeld is a toy ... a seriously
deep one.  Having both an eVOLver and a Blofeld is twice the fun.

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, peter sedin <midihooker@...> wrote:
>
> the only resamblance between a evolver and a blofeld is the size.
evovler sound is fat and analoge and you could use a midi-sax with
breath controller for controlling parameters on the evovler.
> also it has a powerful yet simple event/note sequenser
> blofeld compared to evolver is a toy.
> peace out and welcome to the list!
> peter
> 
>
I own both and I wouldn't quite classify the Blofeld as a toy.

Breath control is a modulation source on the Blofeld. The arpeggiator
is a bit more flexible than the Evolvers note sequencer, but the
Evolver has the edge because of the ability to have four sequences to
control any parameter.

I find the Evolver to be a lot simpler to edit but that viewpoint
might change once I learn where all the parameters are because the LCD
screen on the Blofeld provides a lot more information the the Evolvers
screen ever could.

Both synths have the ability produce sound that can make your jaw
drop. Support wise I would probably give the nod to the Evolver.
You can probably find an evolver a lot quicker than you can find a
Blofeld at this point.

> an Evolver, but am considering getting one to use with my EWI4000S.  
> Either an Evolver or a Blofeld - not sure which way I'll go.  Whichever 
> is "wicked-er" I suppose.  I'll use the search function before asking 

I already answered your questions on the other (EWI) list but in
further defense of the Evolver I've posted a recording of me playing a
Telemann Sonata on my EWI4000s with a crazy Evolver sound.  This is
directly out of the Mono Evolver Desktop (the "hi-fi" version is from
Evolver's stereo output).

http://soundclick.com/share?songid=6428176

(None of the other songs there use the EWI or Evolver.)

Rik

WHERE'S THE BEEF?!?!?!?

Insightful picture!

Thanks!

- Ed


--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "cesarmartinvilches" 
<cesarmartinvilches@...> wrote:

>
>  
> Im sure If you have a look at this picture 
> http://www.hispasonic.com/noticias/tripas-digitales-waldorf-blofeld 
> youll buy an Evolver :)
> 
> Regards!
>