Dave Smith Instruments SYNTHESIZERS

I would love to have my MEK Mod ed with pots. As it is the rotary encoders are fine for the studio but not so great live. That's been the one reason I rarely gig with it, not precise enough on the stage without looking at the screen and sometimes they jump all over. Would it be possible to do the mod to a MEK?

I use the MEK on all my tracks check em out. www.fairtilizer.com/users/nisus 

Thanks Everyone. D

Ask DSI. They are normaly very helpful and have alerady the kit for the P08.
If you do it, pls also ask for a Mopho Kit with two pots like the Tetra. I would like to have that ;)

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "djnisus" <nisusthemovement@...> wrote:

>
> I would love to have my MEK Mod ed with pots. As it is the rotary encoders are fine for the studio but not so great live. That's been the one reason I rarely gig with it, not precise enough on the stage without looking at the screen and sometimes they jump all over. Would it be possible to do the mod to a MEK?
> 
> I use the MEK on all my tracks check em out. www.fairtilizer.com/users/nisus 
> 
> Thanks Everyone. D
>

Hi,
I am also interested in such a mod. If DSI responds would you please tell the group?
Best,
Sven
 --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "tortug1000" <tortug1000@...> wrote:

>
> 
> Ask DSI. They are normaly very helpful and have alerady the kit for the P08.
> If you do it, pls also ask for a Mopho Kit with two pots like the Tetra. I would like to have that ;)
> 
> --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "djnisus" <nisusthemovement@> wrote:
> >
> > I would love to have my MEK Mod ed with pots. As it is the rotary encoders are fine for the studio but not so great live. That's been the one reason I rarely gig with it, not precise enough on the stage without looking at the screen and sometimes they jump all over. Would it be possible to do the mod to a MEK?
> > 
> > I use the MEK on all my tracks check em out. www.fairtilizer.com/users/nisus 
> > 
> > Thanks Everyone. D
> >
>

love to hear that too
but i doubt it will ever happen
if the jump all over, it bet its dexoit time

wish the mek could be used a controller (for most of the fucntions) for 
a mopho or tetra4, if that couldbe i love to get one of those.



>  
>
> Hi,
> I am also interested in such a mod. If DSI responds would you please 
> tell the group?
> Best,
> Sven
> --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:DSI_Evolver%40yahoogroups.com>, "tortug1000" <tortug1000@...> 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Ask DSI. They are normaly very helpful and have alerady the kit for 
> the P08.
> > If you do it, pls also ask for a Mopho Kit with two pots like the 
> Tetra. I would like to have that ;)
> >
> > --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:DSI_Evolver%40yahoogroups.com>, "djnisus" <nisusthemovement@> 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I would love to have my MEK Mod ed with pots. As it is the rotary 
> encoders are fine for the studio but not so great live. That's been 
> the one reason I rarely gig with it, not precise enough on the stage 
> without looking at the screen and sometimes they jump all over. Would 
> it be possible to do the mod to a MEK?
> > >
> > > I use the MEK on all my tracks check em out. 
> www.fairtilizer.com/users/nisus
> > >
> > > Thanks Everyone. D
> > >
> >
>
> 


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I asked DSI about a pot conversion for the PEK, and here is the response I received:


RE: Pot update for the PEK?‏

From:  Technical Support (support@...)   
Sent: Wed 8/12/09 11:25 AM 
To:  James Elliott (johans121@...) 
    
Hi Jim-
 
We are working on a conversion for the PEK, please check back in a month or two.
Many thanks,
 
 
Tracy
Dave Smith Instruments
 
 

________________________________
 From: James Elliott [johans121@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 9:39 PM
To: Technical Support
Subject: Pot update for the PEK?


is there going to be a pot conversion kit made available for the PEK????????????????????????????????????

Regards,
Jim

Great news, thank you!!


--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, James Elliott <johans121@...> wrote:

>
> I asked DSI about a pot conversion for the PEK, and here is the response I received:
> 
> 
> RE: Pot update for the PEK?‏
> From:  Technical Support (support@...)   
> Sent: Wed 8/12/09 11:25 AM 
> To:  James Elliott (johans121@...) 
>     
> Hi Jim-
>  
> We are working on a conversion for the PEK, please check back in a month or two.
> Many thanks,
>  
>  
> Tracy
> Dave Smith Instruments
>  
>  
> 
> ________________________________
>  From: James Elliott [johans121@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 9:39 PM
> To: Technical Support
> Subject: Pot update for the PEK?
> 
> 
> is there going to be a pot conversion kit made available for the PEK????????????????????????????????????
> 
> Regards,
> Jim
>

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Iain Bryden" <ibryden@...> wrote:
>
> Forgive my lack of understanding. Does the pot upgrade give knob turning a smoother transition than encoders? I'm trying to understand what this upgrade gives us.

You have visual indication of settings when editing (but not when calling up your stored patches) and the full control range is within one turn. That actually means less control resolution than the encoders in some cases.

With pots you have to choose how they operate: either as soon as you move the pot the parameter JUMPS to the new value (good when programming) or NO CHANGE happens until the pot reaches the current value (good when performing). 

I have used synths that work like this and I personally find it annoying. Many people do not which is why DSI is offering a choice between pots and encoders although at considerable extra expense to them. Hopefully it is translating into increased sales.

AWESOME!!!!!!

I'd like to have pots instead of encoders. Can't wait, I hope they  
make it happen.

-Mark

Pots will give us 3 things over encoders
1) Smoother operation
2) More accurate operation
3) Reliability

Personally, the 3 hundred bucks will be well spent on this conversion...

-Jim




________________________________

From: Iain Bryden <ibryden@...>
To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:01:19 AM
Subject: RE: [DSI Synths] Re: Pot upgrade for PEK!!!!!!!!

  
 
Forgive my lack of understanding. Does the pot 
upgrade give knob turning a smoother transition than encoders? I'm trying 
to understand what this upgrade gives us.


________________________________
 From: DSI_Evolver@ yahoogroups. com 
[mailto:DSI_ Evolver@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of sverga2000
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:47 AM
To: DSI_Evolver@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [DSI Synths] Re: Pot upgrade for 
PEK!!!!!!!!

  
Great news, thank you!!

--- In DSI_Evolver@ yahoogroups. com, 
James Elliott <johans121@. ..> wrote:
>
> I asked DSI 
about a pot conversion for the PEK, and here is the response I received:
> 
> 
> RE: Pot update for the PEK?â€
> From: Technical Support 
(support@... ) 
> Sent: Wed 8/12/09 11:25 AM 
> To: James 
Elliott (johans121@. ..) 
> 
> Hi Jim-
> 
> We are 
working on a conversion for the PEK, please check back in a month or 
two.
> Many thanks,
> 
> 
> Tracy
> Dave Smith 
Instruments
> 
> 
> 
> 
____________ _________ _________ __
> From: James Elliott 
[johans121@. ..]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 9:39 PM
> To: 
Technical Support
> Subject: Pot update for the PEK?
> 
> 
> is there going to be a pot conversion kit made available for the 
PEK????????? ????????? ????????? ?????????
> 
> 
Regards,
> Jim
>


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I personally like encoders....

1) one click gives one numerical increment
2) they have acceleration, spinning faster makes the numbers change faster
3) They don't get dead spots and never contribute to scratchy audio while turning
4) They never end ! (until you reach max value)

Now, these instruments could use higher resolution encoders (more pulsed per degree turned) and maybe better software programming to make encoder response customizable.....so everyone can be happy.....

Bob
El Segundo, CA

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Robert Krueger 
  To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 7:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [DSI Synths] Re: Pot upgrade for PEK!!!!!!!!


    ...not endless rotation either



  On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 9:45 PM, James Elliott <johans121@...> wrote:

      

    Pots will give us 3 things over encoders
    1) Smoother operation
    2) More accurate operation
    3) Reliability

    Personally, the 3 hundred bucks will be well spent on this conversion...

    -Jim




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    From: Iain Bryden <ibryden@...>
    To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:01:19 AM
    Subject: RE: [DSI Synths] Re: Pot upgrade for PEK!!!!!!!!

      
     

    Forgive my lack of understanding. Does the pot upgrade give knob turning a smoother transition than encoders? I'm trying to understand what this upgrade gives us.



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    From: DSI_Evolver@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:DSI_ Evolver@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of sverga2000
    Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:47 AM
    To: DSI_Evolver@ yahoogroups. com
    Subject: [DSI Synths] Re: Pot upgrade for PEK!!!!!!!!


      
    Great news, thank you!!

    --- In DSI_Evolver@ yahoogroups. com, James Elliott <johans121@. ..> wrote:
    >
    > I asked DSI about a pot conversion for the PEK, and here is the response I received:
    > 
    > 
    > RE: Pot update for the PEK?â€
    > From: Technical Support (support@... ) 
    > Sent: Wed 8/12/09 11:25 AM 
    > To: James Elliott (johans121@. ..) 
    > 
    > Hi Jim-
    > 
    > We are working on a conversion for the PEK, please check back in a month or two.
    > Many thanks,
    > 
    > 
    > Tracy
    > Dave Smith Instruments
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > ____________ _________ _________ __
    > From: James Elliott [johans121@. ..]
    > Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 9:39 PM
    > To: Technical Support
    > Subject: Pot update for the PEK?
    > 
    > 
    > is there going to be a pot conversion kit made available for the PEK????????? ????????? ????????? ?????????
    > 
    > Regards,
    > Jim
    >



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Hopefully this conversion will include a voice expansion from four to eight voices. it'd be great since the per is no longer available. having four voices is just a tease. if a pot mod w/ 4 more voices were available I'd ship mine in tomorrow and consider it money well spent.



-Bob 

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Krueger <robert.krueger@...>
To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, Aug 13, 2009 10:33 pm
Subject: Re: [DSI Synths] Re: Pot upgrade for PEK!!!!!!!!



 



...not endless rotation either



On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 9:45 PM, James Elliott <johans121@yahoo.com> wrote:


  






Pots will give us 3 things over encoders
1) Smoother operation
2) More accurate operation
3) Reliability

Personally, the 3 hundred bucks will be well spent on this conversion...

-Jim



From: Iain Bryden <ibryden@...>
To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:01:19 AM
Subject: RE: [DSI Synths] Re: Pot upgrade for PEK!!!!!!!!

  

 

Forgive my lack of understanding. Does the pot upgrade give knob turning a smoother transition than encoders? I'm trying to understand what this upgrade gives us.


From: DSI_Evolver@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:DSI_ Evolver@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of sverga2000
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:47 AM
To: DSI_Evolver@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [DSI Synths] Re: Pot upgrade for PEK!!!!!!!!




  

Great news, thank you!!

--- In DSI_Evolver@ yahoogroups. com, James Elliott <johans121@. ..> wrote:
>

> I asked DSI about a pot conversion for the PEK, and here is the response I received:
> 
> 
> RE: Pot update for the PEK?â€
> From: Technical Support (support@... ) 
> Sent: Wed 8/12/09 11:25 AM 
> To: James Elliott (johans121@. ..) 
> 
> Hi Jim-
> 
> We are working on a conversion for the PEK, please check back in a month or two.
> Many thanks,
> 
> 
> Tracy
> Dave Smith Instruments
> 
> 
> 
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: James Elliott [johans121@. ..]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 9:39 PM
> To: Technical Support
> Subject: Pot update for the PEK?
> 
> 
> is there going to be a pot conversion kit made available for the PEK????????? ????????? ????????? ?????????
> 
> Regards,
> Jim
>



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is it easier to dial in a specfic patch number  out of 128 with the pots?  less likely to overshoot , or is it just as hard to find a specific point out of 128 as with the normal knobs?   it is better to have the full range of possible amounts / patches  spread out over multiple knob turns?  i assume the pot has the whole range  limited to  a single knob turn. Are the pots less sensitive to getting 'touched' and changing the screen display?




________________________________
From: Robert Krueger <robert.krueger@...>
To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:33:27 PM
Subject: Re: [DSI Synths] Re: Pot upgrade for PEK!!!!!!!!

  
...not endless rotation either


On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 9:45 PM, James Elliott <johans121@yahoo. com> wrote:

  
>Pots will give us 3 things over encoders
>1) Smoother operation
>2) More accurate operation
>3) Reliability
>
>Personally, the 3 hundred bucks will be well spent on this conversion.. .
>
>-Jim
>
>
>
>
________________________________
From: Iain Bryden <ibryden@book. com>
>To: DSI_Evolver@ yahoogroups. com
>Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:01:19 AM
>Subject: RE: [DSI Synths] Re: Pot upgrade for PEK!!!!!!!!
>
>  
> 
>Forgive my lack of understanding. Does the pot upgrade give knob turning a smoother transition than encoders? I'm trying to understand what this upgrade gives us.
>
>
________________________________

From: DSI_Evolver@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:DSI_ Evolver@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of sverga2000
>Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:47 AM
>To: DSI_Evolver@ yahoogroups. com
>Subject: [DSI Synths] Re: Pot upgrade for PEK!!!!!!!!
>
>  
>Great news, thank you!!
>
>--- In DSI_Evolver@ yahoogroups. com, James Elliott <johans121@. ..> wrote:
>>
>> I asked DSI about a pot conversion for the PEK, and here is the response I received:
>> 
>> 
>> RE: Pot update for the PEK?â€
>> From: Technical Support (support@... ) 
>> Sent: Wed 8/12/09 11:25 AM 
>> To: James Elliott (johans121@. ..) 
>> 
>> Hi Jim-
>> 
>> We are working on a conversion for the PEK, please check back in a month or two.
>> Many thanks,
>> 
>> 
>> Tracy
>> Dave Smith Instruments
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ____________ _________ _________ __
>> From: James Elliott [johans121@. ..]
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 9:39 PM
>> To: Technical Support
>> Subject: Pot update for the PEK?
>> 
>> 
>> is there going to be a pot conversion kit made available for the PEK????????? ????????? ????????? ?????????
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Jim
>>
>
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>

The encoders on the PEK are crap. They skip all over the place when you turn them; sometimes they change values after a barely noticeable nudge; and quite frankly, endless rotaries are bothersome, especially when the encoder skips over values while you are turning and turning and turning and turning and turning and turning....

However, have to agree with Bob in that if the encoders were better quality and programmed differently, I wouldn't mind keeping them over pursuing the pot conversion....

-Jim




________________________________
From: steven pistrich <wasteking1@...>
To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 9:46:04 PM
Subject: Re: [DSI Synths] Re: Pot upgrade for PEK!!!!!!!!

  
is it easier to dial in a specfic patch number  out of 128 with the pots?  less likely to overshoot , or is it just as hard to find a specific point out of 128 as with the normal knobs?   it is better to have the full range of possible amounts / patches  spread out over multiple knob turns?  i assume the pot has the whole range  limited to  a single knob turn. Are the pots less sensitive to getting 'touched' and changing the screen display?




________________________________
 From: Robert Krueger <robert.krueger@ gmail.com>
To: DSI_Evolver@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:33:27 PM
Subject: Re: [DSI Synths] Re: Pot upgrade for PEK!!!!!!!!

  
...not endless rotation either


On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 9:45 PM, James Elliott <johans121@yahoo. com> wrote:

  
>Pots will give us 3 things over encoders
>1) Smoother operation
>2) More accurate operation
>3) Reliability
>
>Personally, the 3 hundred bucks will be well spent on this conversion.. .
>
>-Jim
>
>
>
>
________________________________
 From: Iain Bryden <ibryden@book. com>
>To: DSI_Evolver@ yahoogroups. com
>Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:01:19 AM
>Subject: RE: [DSI Synths] Re: Pot upgrade for PEK!!!!!!!!
>
>  
> 
>Forgive my lack of understanding. Does the pot upgrade give knob turning a smoother transition than encoders? I'm trying to understand what this upgrade gives us.
>
>
________________________________

 From: DSI_Evolver@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:DSI_ Evolver@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of sverga2000
>Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:47 AM
>To: DSI_Evolver@ yahoogroups. com
>Subject: [DSI Synths] Re: Pot upgrade for PEK!!!!!!!!
>
>  
>Great news, thank you!!
>
>--- In DSI_Evolver@ yahoogroups. com, James Elliott <johans121@. ..> wrote:
>>
>> I asked DSI about a pot conversion for the PEK, and here is the response I received:
>> 
>> 
>> RE: Pot update for the PEK?â€
>> From: Technical Support (support@... ) 
>> Sent: Wed 8/12/09 11:25 AM 
>> To: James Elliott (johans121@. ..) 
>> 
>> Hi Jim-
>> 
>> We are working on a conversion for the PEK, please check back in a month or two.
>> Many thanks,
>> 
>> 
>> Tracy
>> Dave Smith Instruments
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ____________ _________ _________ __
>> From: James Elliott [johans121@. ..]
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 9:39 PM
>> To: Technical Support
>> Subject: Pot update for the
> PEK?
>> 
>> 
>> is there going to be a pot conversion kit made available for the PEK????????? ????????? ????????? ?????????
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Jim
>>
>
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--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, RWKJ@... wrote:
> Hopefully this conversion will include a voice expansion from four to eight voices. it'd be great since the per is no longer available. 

8 voices won't happen. 

Curtis chips provide the analog circuitry and the Evolver is stereo...2 filters  and VCAs per voice. The Prophet is mono, that's how DSI was able to cram the 8 voices in.

When you consider that the PER is gone and the move back to pots, I think DSI is responding to a market that keeps begging for straight up analog rather than the forward-thinking hybridization of the Evolver.

It probably will be some sort of compromise like The P08 Kit

here the list form the P08:
(click 'click here' in http://www.davesmithinstruments.com/products/p8pe/#)

Parameter	Control Type
(E = encoder, P = potentiometer)
Oscillator 1 Frequency	P
Oscillator 1 Fine Tune	P
Oscillator 1 Shape/PW	P
Oscillator 1 Glide	P
Oscillator 2 Frequency	P
Oscillator 2 Fine Tune	P
Oscillator 2 Shape/PW	P
Oscillator 2 Glide	P
Oscillator Mix	P
Noise	P
Cutoff Frequency	P
Resonance	P
Filter Envelope Amount	P
Filter Velocity	P
Key Amount	P
Audio Modulation	P
Filter Delay	P
Filter Attack	P
Filter Decay	P
Filter Sustain	P
Filter Release	P
VCA Level	P
Amplifier Envelope Amount	P
Amplifier Velocity	P
Amplifier Delay	P
Amplifier Attack	P
Amplifier Decay	P
Amplifier Sustain	P
Amplifier Release	P
Pan Spread	P
Envelope 3 Destination	E
Envelope 3 Amount	P
Envelope 3 Velocity	P
Envelope 3 Delay	P
Envelope 3 Attack	P
Envelope 3 Decay	P
Envelope 3 Sustain	P
Envelope 3 Release	P
LFO Frequency	E
LFO Amount	E
LFO Shape	E
LFO Destination	E
Modulation Source	E
Modulation Destination	E
Modulation Amount	E
Misc Parameters Select	E
Misc Parameters Value	E
BPM	E
Clock Divide	E
Parameter 1	E
Parameter 2	E
Master Volume	P

I just want he two pots for the cutoff/resonance in the Mopho like they use them for the tetra ;)



--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, James Elliott <johans121@...> wrote:

>
> I asked DSI about a pot conversion for the PEK, and here is the response I received:
> 
> 
> RE: Pot update for the PEK?‏
> From:  Technical Support (support@...)   
> Sent: Wed 8/12/09 11:25 AM 
> To:  James Elliott (johans121@...) 
>     
> Hi Jim-
>  
> We are working on a conversion for the PEK, please check back in a month or two.
> Many thanks,
>  
>  
> Tracy
> Dave Smith Instruments
>  
>  
> 
> ________________________________
>  From: James Elliott [johans121@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 9:39 PM
> To: Technical Support
> Subject: Pot update for the PEK?
> 
> 
> is there going to be a pot conversion kit made available for the PEK????????????????????????????????????
> 
> Regards,
> Jim
>

sound like dexoit time! when they are skippin etc contact dsi and the 
send a small tube
i had it horrible(not reaction, skippen or reacting only in one way on a 
dozen knobs) on my mek and waited too long(it got worse), so more 
frustration, but since i dexoit them they work better than i got the mek 
new, if you haven't don it, do it it can help, dexoit is may more safe 
than contactspray. i have way less problem, frustration about the 
encoders now, only see pots handy for the filter and envelopes for the 
rest i don't see advantage above encoders.
>  
> The encoders on the PEK are crap. They skip all over the place when 
> you turn them; sometimes they change values after a barely noticeable 
> nudge; and quite frankly, endless rotaries are bothersome, especially 
> when the encoder skips over values while you are turning and turning 
> and turning and turning and turning and turning....
>
> However, have to agree with Bob in that if the encoders were better 
> quality and programmed differently, I wouldn't mind keeping them over 
> pursuing the pot conversion.. ..
>
> -Jim
>
> *From:* steven pistrich <wasteking1@yahoo. com>
> *To:* DSI_Evolver@ yahoogroups. com
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 13, 2009 9:46:04 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [DSI Synths] Re: Pot upgrade for PEK!!!!!!!!
>
>  
> is it easier to dial in a specfic patch number  out of 128 with the 
> pots?  less likely to overshoot , or is it just as hard to find a 
> specific point out of 128 as with the normal knobs?   it is better to 
> have the full range of possible amounts / patches  spread out over 
> multiple knob turns?  i assume the pot has the whole range  limited 
> to  a single knob turn. Are the pots less sensitive to getting 
> 'touched' and changing the screen display?
>
> *From:* Robert Krueger <robert.krueger@ gmail.com <http://gmail.com>>
> *To:* DSI_Evolver@ yahoogroups. com
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:33:27 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [DSI Synths] Re: Pot upgrade for PEK!!!!!!!!
>
>  
>
> ...not endless rotation either
>
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 9:45 PM, James Elliott <johans121@yahoo. com 
> <mailto:johans121@...>> wrote:
>
>      
>     Pots will give us 3 things over encoders
>     1) Smoother operation
>     2) More accurate operation
>     3) Reliability
>
>     Personally, the 3 hundred bucks will be well spent on this
>     conversion.. .
>
>     -Jim
>
>
>     *From:* Iain Bryden <ibryden@book. com <mailto:ibryden@...>>
>     *To:* DSI_Evolver@ yahoogroups. com
>     <mailto:DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com>
>     *Sent:* Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:01:19 AM
>     *Subject:* RE: [DSI Synths] Re: Pot upgrade for PEK!!!!!!!!
>
>      
>
>     \ufeff
>
>     Forgive my lack of understanding. Does the pot upgrade give knob
>     turning a smoother transition than encoders? I'm trying to
>     understand what this upgrade gives us.
>
>     *From:* DSI_Evolver@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:DSI_ <mailto:DSI_>
>     Evolver@yahoogro ups.com <http://ups.com/>] *On Behalf Of *sverga2000
>     *Sent:* Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:47 AM
>     *To:* DSI_Evolver@ yahoogroups. com
>     *Subject:* [DSI Synths] Re: Pot upgrade for PEK!!!!!!!!
>
>      
>
>     Great news, thank you!!
>
>     --- In DSI_Evolver@ yahoogroups. com
>     <mailto:DSI_Evolver%40yahoogroups.com>, James Elliott <johans121@.
>     ..> wrote:
>     >
>     > I asked DSI about a pot conversion for the PEK, and here is the
>     response I received:
>     >
>     >
>     > RE: Pot update for the PEK?�\u20ac
>     > From: Technical Support (support@... )
>     > Sent: Wed 8/12/09 11:25 AM
>     > To: James Elliott (johans121@. ..)
>     >
>     > Hi Jim-
>     >
>     > We are working on a conversion for the PEK, please check back in
>     a month or two.
>     > Many thanks,
>     >
>     >
>     > Tracy
>     > Dave Smith Instruments
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > ____________ _________ _________ __
>     > From: James Elliott [johans121@. ..]
>     > Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 9:39 PM
>     > To: Technical Support
>     > Subject: Pot update for the PEK?
>     >
>     >
>     > is there going to be a pot conversion kit made available for the
>     PEK????????? ????????? ????????? ?????????
>     >
>     > Regards,
>     > Jim
>     >
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Mine seem fine. I seen a few times they skip but overall, they work well.

Sealed pots like in MOTM ... now that I might be interested in...
Dust out there in my area, a killer.

dale

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: James Elliott 


  The encoders on the PEK are crap. They skip all over the place when you turn them; sometimes they change values after a barely noticeable nudge; and quite frankly, endless rotaries are bothersome, especially when the encoder skips over values while you are turning and turning and turning and turning and turning and turning....

  However, have to agree with Bob in that if the encoders were better quality and programmed differently, I wouldn't mind keeping them over pursuing the pot conversion....

  -Jim