RE: [Digital BW] Foveon color
2003-12-31 by Austin Franklin
Claude, ... All? Possible? That s simply not true. There are no gallium arsenide computer chips in %99.9999999 of modern computers, these chips (processor,
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Re: [Digital BW] Foveon color
2003-12-31 by Daniel Staver
For those of us who prefers actual real life samples to long winded arguments these pages are pretty interesting:
Re: [Digital BW] Epson 4000:8 ink slots,so why not...
2003-12-31 by Ernst Dinkla
... cartridges,the 4000. Wouldn´t it be possible to load 3 or 4 slots with blacks and gray dilutions,4 or 5 with color,and by writing a proper driver (what
Re: [Digital BW] Epson 4000:8 ink slots,so why not...
2003-12-31 by Ernst Dinkla
... seven heads to work with. Using Cone s Piezotone inks, I ve got two sets of gray inks (selenium and warm neutral in this case) which share a common
Re: [Digital BW] Foveon color
2003-12-31 by Anthony G. Atkielski
... Yes. Consumer video went through all of this long ago. Until 3-CCD consumer video cameras became available, lots of people offered all sorts of
Re[2]: [Digital BW] (unknown) to Val digital vs film
2003-12-31 by Anthony G. Atkielski
... That s true, but unless you know exactly how much an image will be enlarged and you re sure that you have all the information the eye will be able to see
Re[8]: [Digital BW] (unknown) to Val digital vs film
2003-12-31 by Anthony G. Atkielski
... The resolution of colors in space is spatial resolution. Spatial resolution in color is color resolution. ... True. Whereas, if you are using a sensor
Re: (unknown) to Val digital vs film
2003-12-31 by Jon
... What you have is the need to get involved with every digital vs film fight that happens on this list. What you don t have on your side is the fact that you
Foveon color
2003-12-31 by claudej1@aol.com
Ask any professional videographer whether or not they would prefer a 3-chip or single chip camera. They will look at funny for asking a question with an
Re: Epson 4000:8 ink slots,so why not...
2003-12-31 by Ranyart
I don t know, my tried and true Epson 1280 gives me nothing but clogged nozzle hell. Supposedly the 4000 will correct nozzle problems... ... you ... da ...
Re: [Digital BW] (unknown) to Val digital vs film
2003-12-31 by Mark Hahn
there is limit to this, you know? If the red dot is much smaller than what you can see with your naked eye on your enlarged print it doesn t matter. Also,
Re: [Digital BW] Epson 4000:8 ink slots,so why not...
2003-12-31 by Bob Michaels
How about two printers? Each being one of the old tried and true models costing way less than half of a new 4000. Of course, then you wouldn t be on that
Re: [Digital BW] (unknown) to Val digital vs film
2003-12-31 by Truman Prevatt
... I think there is some contradiction between the statement above and the one below. That is the exact point that has been made about information not
Re: [Digital BW] Oriental Graphica FB - more experience?
2003-12-31 by David Sinai
Cool. Thanks. David ... below ... printer ... together
Re: [Digital BW] Epson 4000:8 ink slots,so why not...
2003-12-31 by Andre Vallejo da Silva
Humm...that seems like a problem...maybe someone smarter then I can came up with a solution! ... hour or ... closed ... it is
Re: [Digital BW] Epson 4000:8 ink slots,so why not...
2003-12-31 by hogarth
... I speculate that the reason that Epson won t do this is because of the way their print heads work. That is, if you wave them around in the air and don t
Re: [Digital BW] Oriental Graphica FB - more experience?
2003-12-31 by Editor P.O.V. Image Service
... In PhotoShop. Simply download and print a 21 step wedge.. Note at what % the bronzing starts. Create a curve in Photoshop that limits the OUTPUT level to
RE: Re[6]: [Digital BW] (unknown) to Val digital vs film
2003-12-30 by Paul D. DeRocco
... Well, now we re back to spatial resolution. You said color resolution. Look, if an scene contains a red dot that happens to fall on a blue sensor element,
Epson 4000:8 ink slots,so why not...
2003-12-30 by André Vallejo
So now we´ll have an Epson where we can stick 8 ink cartridges,the 4000. Wouldn´t it be possible to load 3 or 4 slots with blacks and gray dilutions,4 or 5
Re[2]: [Digital BW] Creamy colors?
2003-12-30 by Anthony G. Atkielski
... Aliasing is far less of a problem when you have all three colors for every pixel. A Bayer filter will show aliasing of blue and red detail even at
Re[6]: [Digital BW] (unknown) to Val digital vs film
2003-12-30 by Anthony G. Atkielski
... Unless the original scene showed additional details in that gradient that cannot be simulated by any form of interpolation. ... In terms of chrominance,
Re[2]: [Digital BW] Creamy colors?
2003-12-30 by Anthony G. Atkielski
... Viewing conditions matter just as much, and what satisfies the eye under one set of conditions may be hopelessly inadequate under other conditions. ...
Re[2]: [Digital BW] Creamy colors?
2003-12-30 by Anthony G. Atkielski
... Sliding back towards the topic of the mailing list: A Foveon should provide far better black and white results than a typical sensor with a matrix filter.
Re[2]: [Digital BW] Creamy colors?
2003-12-30 by Anthony G. Atkielski
... Yes. The colors are smeared. ... No amount of smartness in algorithms can abridge the laws of information theory. ... That depends on what you mean by six
Re: [Digital BW] Multihead BO (theoretical more or less)
2003-12-30 by Ernst Dinkla
... From: Ernst Dinkla To: Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 11:32 AM Subject: Re:
Re: [Digital BW] Creamy colors?
2003-12-30 by Truman Prevatt
... I want the best possible sensor (be it film or a CCD) before I start. This is why I normally use a 4x5 or if I use a 35 mm I use a fine grain thin emulsion
RE: Re[4]: [Digital BW] (unknown) to Val digital vs film
2003-12-30 by Paul D. DeRocco
... If you can represent both color A and color B digitally, and you can render a gradient from A to B that shows no posterization to the eye, then you have
RE: [Digital BW] Creamy colors?
2003-12-30 by Paul D. DeRocco
... But the eye is all that matters. Your statement makes me wonder whether you re using your camera for art or for lab measurements. I know what constitutes a
Re: [Digital BW] Creamy colors?
2003-12-30 by Truman Prevatt
No matter what your eye tells you, information cannot be created. Given a fairly complex image, the interpolation looks okay, but take it to the bench for
RE: [Digital BW] Creamy colors?
2003-12-30 by Paul D. DeRocco
... Have you ever actually examined, at the pixel level, the results of the Bayer interpolation performed by a camera like a Canon 10D? You can talk all the
Re: [Digital BW] "Small" Work
2003-12-30 by Val Brunell
To Cort s point, I am most concerned with how the image looks when displayed. To me, that means somewhat close inspection with the naked eye. For my
Re: Small Work
2003-12-30 by Val Brunell
David...Thanks for sharing so much. You have given me a lot to think about...Val ... am, DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com ... notice ... about
Re: [Digital BW] "Small" Work
2003-12-30 by Cort Anderson
... Yes, everyone does different types of photography and what may be unacceptable for one person may be great for another, the only way you are going to
Re: [Digital BW] Creamy colors?
2003-12-30 by Truman Prevatt
There has been some modifications to the sensor that goes into the SD10. Maybe some of the issues have been addressed. I guess we will soon see. The color
OT: Monaco monitor calibrator
2003-12-30 by Steven Karafyllakis
I m looking for the older triangular Monaco monitor calibrator to replace a borrowed one I managed to fry... if anyone is looking to upgrade & wants to sell,
Re: Re: [Digital BW] Custom profile and IP???
2003-12-30 by Alan.Huntley@cox.net
Andre, Dither patterns, etc., are very different with the IP driver when compared to the standard Epson driver. Personally, I much prefer the IP driver. The
Re: [Digital BW] Custom profile and IP???
2003-12-30 by André Vallejo
Correct me if I m wrong,but if you have a custom profile,what will you want IP for? André Vallejo http://andrevallejo.net ... profiles ... 2200
Re: [Digital BW] Foveon chip
2003-12-30 by André Vallejo
BTW,the images produced by Sigma SD9 and 10 with the Foveon have the less amount of noise in the three channels,including blue I ve ever seen in a
Invitation to join the Mornington Peninsula Camera Club Online Group
2003-12-30 by Andrew Ammendola (Alexius DeZign)
Hello Recently, an online community group was created as an alternative resource for the Mornington Peninsula Camera Club (MPCC). There were two main reasons
Re: [Digital BW] Multihead BO (theoretical more or less)
2003-12-30 by Ernst Dinkla
... designed for dye-based inks.. The Black head has 192 nozzles... The color head has 480 nozzles (96 per color). I don t know haow many sizes of drops the
OT but interesting
2003-12-30 by georgegeorgakakos
Does anyone use portable storage, specificallythe units with LCD monitors. The big QUESTION is, Can these devices show our RAW (jpeg) files on these little
Re: Small Work
2003-12-30 by PhotoWorkshops Partnership
On 28/12/03 10:18 am, DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com ... Val My experiences for what they are worth - I find I am very dissatisfied with 400ISO
Re: [Digital BW] Multihead BO (theoretical more or less)
2003-12-30 by Ernst Dinkla
Roy, you wrote ... printing but it s hard to know for sure. If you had a printer that had inconsistent jets using more different jets might help in banding
Re: [Digital BW] "Small" Work
2003-12-30 by Mark Hahn
well, yes, interpolation reduces image sharpness and is only good as a last resort. I would suggest that you can easily get away with about 220ppi on larger
Re: [Digital BW] Creamy colors?
2003-12-30 by Anthony G. Atkielski
... Many sources say that it still needs work. I haven t tried it myself. Obviously, the fundamental idea of capturing all three primary colors at every
RE: [Digital BW] "Small" Work
2003-12-30 by Paul D. DeRocco
... If anything, explicit upsampling will give better results than relying upon the printer driver to do the upsampling. That s certainly true of the Epson
Re: [Digital BW] Oriental Graphica FB - more experience?
2003-12-30 by David Sinai
No. Is this done in PS or within the Epson software? ... printer ... together
RE: [Digital BW] Creamy colors?
2003-12-30 by Paul D. DeRocco
... Well, sure. It s an unavoidable trade-off: you can either have the extra sharpness, or you can smooth out the jaggies. Since the more popular digicams have
Re: [Digital BW] "Small" Work
2003-12-30 by David Sinai
Don, I received your sample prints that you created using this approach. I can honestly say that I could not detect much of a difference between the BO print
Re: [Digital BW] Creamy colors?
2003-12-30 by Truman Prevatt
You need to differentiate preference over technical performance. From the reviews I saw the SD9 had better resolution an any of the current crop of 6 meg