Re: [Digital BW] ART-what is it?
2001-10-24 by SKID Photography
... Sanford, Uh...Yeah. You should have been here 2 days ago when the quote was originally posted, and discussed (in full). Harvey Ferdschneider partner, SKID
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Re: [Digital BW] ART-what is it?
2001-10-24 by Sanford Barnes
I know it when I see it quote/reference originally related to an opinion of a supeme court justice when commenting on pornography. Can pornography also be
Re: [Digital BW] ART-what is it?
2001-10-24 by SKID Photography
... Oh yes...I used that quote. But it s not the art aspect that I was addressing, it was the revulsive rejection of the imagery (if you will). Harvey
RE: [Digital BW] ART-what is it?
2001-10-24 by Sanford Barnes
The abstract expressionists and others demonstrated that art may, in part, be accidental. Not all art is attractive. SCB From: Nij
Re: [Digital BW] ART-what is it?
2001-10-24 by Sanford Barnes
Madonna - one of the great femminists of our time. A modern Carmen (in the Bizet sense). I m not sure its making her happy - but hopefully she will continue
Re: [Digital BW] ART and LIFE
2001-10-24 by ternahan
Great questions! Great responce! Bravo! We need to keep an open mind and be receptive to new and different ideas/thoughts/concepts/expressions. Its all too
Re: on Originality...
2001-10-24 by Tyler Boley
... Well put Cleavis (and Fred) Tyler ... Sommer. ... they
Re: [Digital BW] ART-what is it?
2001-10-24 by Tyler Boley
... wrote: snip... The exhibit is not that ... broke into morgues and made detailed ... was put together. Harvey, I agree with everything you said in general.
Re: [Digital BW] ART-what is it?
2001-10-24 by SKID Photography
I guess it s time for me to step in and upset everyone (more than they already are), from the perspective of a jaded New Yorker. ;-) I have to disagree about
Re: [Digital BW] ART-what is it?
2001-10-24 by Sanford Barnes
JT: If one dosen t get it or understand, then the art may have failed to communicate to that individual; however, it does not automatically translate that
Re: [Digital BW] ART-what is it?
2001-10-24 by Sanford Barnes
mikeH: Right on!!!!! SCB From: mh@toomanyartists.com Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com To:
Re: [Digital BW] ART-what is it?
2001-10-24 by Sanford Barnes
Great questions! Great responce! Bravo! We need to keep an open mind and be receptive to new and different ideas/thoughts/concepts/expressions. Its all too
Re: [Digital BW] ART and LIFE
2001-10-24 by Carolyn Frayn
Beautiful Trish, thank you for sharing that... you are an amazing woman. Carolyn
Re: [Digital BW] ART and LIFE
2001-10-24 by Sanford Barnes
Life and art are much more than sweet talk or kind/altruist intent. SCB From: ternahan Reply-To:
on Originality...
2001-10-24 by lyonscox@mindspring.com
Originality is the very thing you can t give away, Frederick Sommer. One of the peculiar things in Fred s words is the duality of definitions. Originality
Re: [Digital BW] ART-what is it?
2001-10-24 by Carolyn Frayn
I ve not visited the links, I saw it on TV and had to turn it off. I m sorry, but I really believe this man has crossed a line somewhere. I know all the
Re: [Digital BW] ART-what is it?
2001-10-24 by Steadman Uhlich
I know what you mean. I wish I had not read that stuff. Steadman ... From: Tyler Boley To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October
Re: [Digital BW] ART-what is it?
2001-10-24 by Tyler Boley
... snip... ... I understand your reaction completely, I just don t want to look at it long enough or read about it enough to spend the rest of the evening
Re: [Digital BW] ART-what is it?
2001-10-24 by Tyler Boley
... snip... ... One of the best comments I ve heard, told me by an artist I highly respect- That something must be original is not a very original idea. Made
Re: [Digital BW] ART-what is it?
2001-10-24 by Steadman Uhlich
Life always has a fascination with death. We should not be ashamed of our bodies. Think of PT Barnum or others who exhibit the macabre to excite us. The good
Re: [Digital BW] ART-what is it?
2001-10-24 by Tyler Boley
... snip... ... what the hell is wrong with the Germans? From South Park, The Movie. My apologies to any Germans anywhere, you had to see the movie...
Re: [Digital BW] ART and LIFE
2001-10-24 by Steadman Uhlich
Very nicely put. I see that little flower and that little girl and that caring and sharing. Thanks for posting (sharing) a humane look at the art of life.
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Re: ART-what is it?
2001-10-24 by Steadman Uhlich
I was amazed that the SF MOMA had in their permanent holdings a collection of very large white on white on white and some plain old WHITE canvases
Re: [Digital BW] ART-what is it?
2001-10-24 by Johnny Deadman
... one of the most popular exhibits in German of recent years (I think I have this right) was some extraordinary peeled and preserved corpses of former human
Re: [Digital BW] ART-what is it?
2001-10-23 by ternahan
Awesome! t
ART and LIFE
2001-10-23 by ternahan
I would like to make a case for taking art out of the box as defined by galleries and museums and schools. Art can be practiced anywhere, anytime by anyone
Re: [Digital BW] ART-what is it?
2001-10-23 by Steadman Uhlich
I for one am proud to be a Prole.... and I like to polka too along with my kielbalsa. Steadman ... From: Steve Woolfenden To:
Re: [Digital BW] ART-what is it?
2001-10-23 by ternahan
Picasso did the same thing with a drawing of cow evolving in several steps (or devolving) into 3 triangles.
Re: [Digital BW] ART-what is it?
2001-10-23 by Jerry Olson
Anyone see the segmented cow exhibit? Some idiot froze a cow, and sawed it into thin slices, then encased them in acrylic and placed each of about a dozen or
Re: [Digital BW] ART-what is it?
2001-10-23 by Steadman Uhlich
Tyler, I am struck by what you wrote. (that is not bad) It got me thinking. I am thinking of the times when I saw conceptual artists (some good and some
Re: [Digital BW] ART-what is it?
2001-10-23 by SKID Photography
But what the below fails to account for is absolutely arbitrariness (read fashion) of art and art criticism. I go back to the example of the French Academy
Re: [Digital BW] Film poll
2001-10-23 by Martin Wesley
Alessandro, My personal film and developer choices are Ilford FP4+ and Kodak TMax 400 in 4x5, 120 and 35mm film. In 120 and 35mm I am also starting to
Re: [Digital BW] ART-what is it?
2001-10-23 by SKID Photography
... Julian, I was not saying you were, nor am I. I was just trying to point out the impossibility of taking a subjective field and trying to quantify it.
mixed lists
2001-10-23 by Tim Spragens
Hey folks, the discussion of B&W development is taking place on the fine art photo list, and the discussion of fine art is taking place on the B&W Printing
Re: Re: ART-what is it?
2001-10-23 by ncmphoto
Art is in the eye of the beholder (g) Nina
Re: [Digital BW] ART-what is it?
2001-10-23 by Julian Thomas
I m not denigrating academics - I used to lecture in aesthetics! - Julian ... From: SKID Photography To:
Re: [Digital BW] ART-what is it?
2001-10-23 by SKID Photography
... Look at it this way: Academics (those that write about and teach the history of art) fulfill a function and a demand form the less thoughtful. And that
Re: [Digital BW] ART-what is it?
2001-10-23 by SKID Photography
... So what you are saying is that the French Academy artists who literally ripped the early Impressionists paintings off the gallery walls were correct? I
Re: [Digital BW] ART-what is it?
2001-10-23 by Steve Woolfenden
We can only hope that there was someone knowledgeable in the field of art that influenced the original guy on his/her purchase. ....Ah , the taste police.
Re: [Digital BW] Re: ART-what is it?
2001-10-23 by Martin Wesley
... From: Dan Culbertson To: Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 9:20 PM Subject: [Digital
Re: [Digital BW]aesthetics 101 ART-what is it?
2001-10-23 by Julian Thomas
Any defintiion of art is a problem because you deal with aesthetics, the philosophy of the beautiful if you like, and this is a minefield. My concept of beauty
RE: [Digital BW] ART-what is it?
2001-10-23 by Nij
Chaps, You totally lose me with the references! But, can I suggest, or ask, that you each try to summarise in a few sentences where the art comes into the
Re: [Digital BW] ART-what is it?
2001-10-23 by Julian Thomas
. ... to ... I agree with you totally on this. I had a conversation with a friend recently who is a keen amateur painter of the representational school. He
Re: [Digital BW] ART-what is it?
2001-10-23 by Johnny Deadman
... think of what the word art actually means outside this context as in the artful dodger as in artifice as in artefact as in arts and crafts as in
Re: [Digital BW] ART-what is it?
2001-10-23 by Tyler Boley
... But if the only alternative to hallmark card nature scenes that manages to elbow it s way to the public s attention is art who s main purpose is to
Re: [Digital BW] ART-what is it?
2001-10-23 by Julian Thomas
... I suppose I should come clean really. I think one of prejudices against concept art is that I used to do it. At one time I was heavily into John Cage. I
Re: [Digital BW] ART-what is it?
2001-10-23 by Steadman Uhlich
Mike and Julian, Both of you have interesting points that are well articulated. Keep it up. It is enlightening and certainly adds some weight to this
Re: [Digital BW] ART-what is it?
2001-10-23 by Julian Thomas
... yes, i think that there has to be a work-object for the viewer to engage with. A lot of the stuff I saw at the yoko ono was therapy IMO draw a green
Re: [Digital BW] ART-what is it?
2001-10-23 by Steadman Uhlich
Well Said Julian! ... From: Julian Thomas To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 2:41 AM Subject: Re: [Digital BW]
Re: [Digital BW] ART-what is it?
2001-10-23 by mh@toomanyartists.com
So do you disagree with the notion that the concept alone can be the work? I think Hirst was pretty new with a lot of his stuff, in medium and concept. But as