RE: [Digital BW] Re: 8bit to 16 bit
2007-04-10 by Gary W. Weaver
My 2 cents, I sometimes increase the bit-depth. But, I m a superstitious fool for the most part. When I think I want more data, I up-sample one way or
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[Digital BW] Re: 8bit to 16 bit
2007-04-10 by Clayton Jones
Hello Amadou, ... Yes, the first time I tried it was after my trip to Death Valley NP two years ago. I had a number of nice images on my pocket digicam that
RE: [Digital BW] Re: 8bit to 16 bit
2007-04-10 by Paul Roark
... True. ... Perhaps in some technical sense, but if one starts with an 8 bit file and converts it to 16 bit, there is so much room to move data around within
Re: [Digital BW] Wilhelm Ratings for EEM
2007-04-10 by Richard Smallfield
... But a BW print that is on yellowing paper does warm greatly - I have prints on my bedroom wall that are pinned up on EEM paper that have gone a great deal
Re: [Digital BW] 8bit to 16 bit
2007-04-10 by jonathan wills
At 8:09 PM +0000 4/9/07, jnhugo wrote: Hi, I need some clarification on mode changing from 8 bit to 16 bit. It s my understanding that unless the file
Re: [Digital BW] Re: 8bit to 16 bit
2007-04-10 by BKPhoto@aol.com
C. Tobie wrote: ALL image editing loses data. I respectfully disagree. Image edits such as density/contrast changes, or color balancing redistribute data
Re: [Digital BW] Re: 8bit to 16 bit
2007-04-09 by amadou diallo
Clayton, Ignoring what the histogram looks like, are you saying that an 8bit file, converted to 16bit, with various adjustments applied yields a superior print
Re: [Digital BW] Re: 8bit to 16 bit
2007-04-09 by CDTobie@aol.com
... ALL image editing loses data. High bit format loses less data than low bit. Photoshop uses high bit formats for most of its adjustments, so most of the
Re: 8bit to 16 bit
2007-04-09 by jnhugo
... file ... Thanks for the replies, this list is great and I appreciate you all taking time to respond. So the bit depth on capture determines how detailed
RE: [Digital BW] Wilhelm Ratings for EEM
2007-04-09 by Eric Neilsen Photo
HI Clayton, I am neither happy nor angry with W. I too am behind the idea that those that rely on his data need to be careful of what it is indicating.
Re: 8bit to 16 bit
2007-04-09 by Clayton Jones
Hello Jack, ... I have found some benefit in doing this when using 8-bit jpgs from my pocket digicam. Because I m converting to grayscale and applying various
Re: [Digital BW] Wilhelm Ratings for EEM
2007-04-09 by Clayton Jones
Hello Eric, ... I don t have an answer to your questions, and I m not attempting to pass judgement on his methods. I accept W s reports for what they are: he
Re: [Digital BW] 8bit to 16 bit
2007-04-09 by CDTobie@aol.com
... It also gives you more places to spread it around... if you shift the gamma on a file that has been shifted from 8 to 16 bit, the side that needs extra
Re: [Digital BW] 8bit to 16 bit
2007-04-09 by amadou diallo
Changing a file from 8 bit t to 16 bit gives you nothing other than a larger file size. -- amadou diallo Author, Mastering Digital Black and White
Re: OT: Zeiss 50mm Sonnar lens stolen on eBay
2007-04-09 by Jane Waters
... notify me. ... Hi Dave, this is my third attempt at answering this. I thought I had joined this group a while back, but found I was still in lurking
8bit to 16 bit
2007-04-09 by jnhugo
Hi, I need some clarification on mode changing from 8 bit to 16 bit. It s my understanding that unless the file originated as a 16 bit file there is no
Re: [Digital BW] Wilhelm on "archival"
2007-04-09 by Richard Smallfield
A couple of years ago there was some talk of a web site that used daylight to test paper/ink combinations but I can t remember the name of the site. Can anyone
Re: [Digital BW] Wilhelm on "archival"
2007-04-09 by djon43
... Mark, those weren t my words, I quoted Wilhelm. When your customer asks how archival, what does she mean? Does she plan to do densitometry in the future?
RE: [Digital BW] OT: Zeiss 50mm Sonnar lens stolen on eBay
2007-04-09 by Gary W. Weaver
Hey Mark, Everything looks bogus. PayPal must be avoided - but everyone knows that. gar ... From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Re: [Digital BW] monitor calibration
2007-04-09 by amadou diallo
Thanks Mark. It s really nice to have only 1 full-time job again... ... -- amadou diallo Author, Mastering Digital Black and White
Re: [Digital BW] OT: Zeiss 50mm Sonnar lens stolen on eBay
2007-04-09 by Mark Savoia
Did you contact camera stores in recipients city? Can you supply some details on the transaction so we can watch out if we are selling anything it will not
Re: [Digital BW] monitor calibration
2007-04-09 by Mark Savoia
Its good to see you are done with the book so you can answer all our questions again ... Nice to have you back. Mark
OT: Zeiss 50mm Sonnar lens stolen on eBay
2007-04-09 by David Keenan
I had the following lens stolen in a fraudulent eBay transaction: Zeiss Ikon C-Sonnar 50mm f/1.5 lens (silver), serial number 15600688. If you see this lens
Re: [Digital BW] monitor calibration
2007-04-09 by amadou diallo
The choice of a 1.8 or 2.2 gamma in your monitor calibration is independent of the working spaces you define in Photoshop. For LCD monitor calibration you
Re: [Digital BW] monitor calibration
2007-04-09 by Mark Savoia
I think the poster corrected himself with a follow up post already. Mark
Re: [Digital BW] Wilhelm on "archival"
2007-04-09 by Mark Savoia
Maybe you don t, but most of the art world and all my customers do, they are obsessed with it. Second question is usually how archival are the prints? Mark
Wilhelm on "archival"
2007-04-09 by djon43
http://www.wilhelm-research.com/phototechniques/PhotoTechniques_WIR_2005_01.pdf Archival is a word we don t use anymore. Its original definition was usually
Re: [Digital BW] monitor calibration
2007-04-09 by CDTobie@aol.com
... 1.8 and 2.2 are gamma values, not whitepoint values. Which you use will depend on whether your images are in a gamma 1.8 space, or a gamma 2.2 space. C.
Re: [Digital BW] Prints on R2400
2007-04-09 by CDTobie@aol.com
... QTR and an EyeOne is not a $50 solution; its more expensive than the alternative you failed to mention... PFP2. C. David Tobie Product Technology Manager
Re: [Digital BW] Prints on R2400
2007-04-09 by CDTobie@aol.com
... There is no ICC-based color management with Epson s AWB (or any of the new B& W printer functions in the various brands). To get that type of control you
RE: [Digital BW] Wilhelm Ratings for EEM
2007-04-09 by Eric Neilsen
Clayton, The point that comes out of your analysis to me is simple. If you have an ink that you want tested, let W use EEM because we don t care about the
Re: Wilhelm Ratings for EEM
2007-04-09 by djon43
While Wilhelm s ratings may be honestly arrived-at, they are *allow* those numbers to be used for marketing purposes. This means they re being paid, one way or
Re: [Digital BW] Wilhelm Ratings for EEM
2007-04-09 by amadou diallo
That s a terrific point Clayton, and one that gets overlooked as people just skim over the Wilhelm data looking for years and not reading the extensive
Re: [Digital BW] Camera Raw 4.0??
2007-04-09 by amadou diallo
The version of ACR 4 referenced in the book will ship with CS3, due out later this month. ... -- amadou diallo Author, Mastering Digital Black and White
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Wilhelm Ratings for EEM
2007-04-09 by Brian Ellis
The term archival continues to have the larger meaning that it s long held with silver paper and Wilhelm barely relates. What meaning is that? ... From:
Camera Raw 4.0??
2007-04-09 by michaelrosensf
Reading the sample chapter in Amadou s book, I found a mention of a Recovery slider in Camera Raw, like the one in Lightroom. The graphic shows it s version
Wilhelm Ratings for Color and BW
2007-04-09 by Clayton Jones
Hello All, Several posts recently made reference to Wilhelm ratings for K3 ink on various papers, but the numbers they quoted were for color prints. The
Wilhelm Ratings for EEM
2007-04-09 by Clayton Jones
Hello All, Referring to the Wilhelm report on the 2400 in ABW mode (page 3 at this link http://www.wilhelm-research.com/epson/R2400.html ), someone asked me
Re: [Digital BW] monitor calibration
2007-04-09 by deandadin@aol.com
Hello Alan, I have the same computer. I decided to just let the Optix xr do the calibration for me. The profiling that comes with the computer is not
Re: [Digital BW] monitor calibration
2007-04-09 by alan_kearney@sbcglobal.net
Steve, I need more info in order to help you out here. I ve a PPC Dual 2.7 GHz G5, running OS 10.4.9 and I calibrate one monitor (Apple Cinema Display 20in)
monitor calibration
2007-04-09 by deandadin
I ment to say target gamma setting re the 1.8 and 2.2 setting. Thanks Steve
monitor calibration
2007-04-09 by deandadin
for a mac do I set the white point at 1.8 or 2.2. Thanks Steve
Re: [Digital BW] Prints on R2400
2007-04-09 by amadou diallo
Gary, Thanks for the interest. I m awaiting confirmation of a revised date from my publisher. I ll be posting both shipping and pre-order info at
RE: [Digital BW] Prints on R2400
2007-04-09 by gcwagner
Amadou, I followed your link to Amazon for your book but could not find it. When will it be released? Thanks, Gary W. Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Prints on R2400
[Digital BW] Re: Prints on R2400
2007-04-09 by Debbi
Thank you Tom and Amadou! That helped a lot!! Debbi
Re: Prints on R2400
2007-04-09 by Tom Husband
Hi Debbi, I don t know if you ve come across Clayton Jones s site: http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm Item #9 talks about the 2400 and ABW. It might be a
Re: [Digital BW] Prints on R2400
2007-04-09 by amadou diallo
With Epson s ABW driver you can convert an RGB color image to b/w right inside the driver. You can let ABW print it straight or add a warming or cooling
Prints on R2400
2007-04-08 by Debbi
I m new to B&W printing and I m looking forward to Amadou s book. In the meantime, I have an Epson R2400. When I use the ABW I get great B&W prints, but it s
Re: [Digital BW] good new book
2007-04-08 by amadou diallo
John, Thanks for providing that link to Amazon Canada. Funny thing is that s a cover and subtitle I ve never seen... But the ISBN numbers are correct so its
Recommendations for papers for use with HP Photosmart 8450 printer?
2007-04-08 by lawman20530
Dear Fellow List Members, Like a few other list members, I am reluctant to buy quantities of paper not knowing whether they will work well with my printer: a