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2002-05-28 by Julian Thomas
OK, matte and gloss papers, output dpi of 526 (tried changing this) , great head checks, and I'm getting visible microbanding ona number of files. Done the windex trick. Any ideas - or is it one of those where i switch off and wait?? I've had this before but changing the dpi (thanks Nij) helped Julian julian
2002-05-28 by Robert Morrison
The print head is on its way out...make sure you have its replacement ready. What epson would do is a 9:1 distilled water/clear household ammnoia flush with a tygon tube connected to the inkjet inlet. Put a couple of ml through each jet...with gentle syringe pressure. I just had two 1160's die this way in the last couple of weeks...these desktop machines are disposable printers...the flush didn't help...but perhaps they were already too far gone. Both printers had done several thousand prints. Robert
On 5/28/02 9:36 AM, "Julian Thomas" <julianthomas@...> wrote: > OK, matte and gloss papers, output dpi of 526 (tried changing this) , great > head checks, and I'm getting visible microbanding ona number of files. Done > the windex trick. Any ideas - or is it one of those where i switch off and > wait?? I've had this before but changing the dpi (thanks Nij) helped
2002-05-28 by Simon Lamb
I get microbanding on an 1160 that has only done about 100 prints. One day I see microbands, the next it prints fine. It is intermittent and I cannot find a solution other than try again another day, which isn't ideal. I hope the heads are not about to die as it is a relatively new printer. Simon Robert Morrison wrote: The print head is on its way out...make sure you have its replacement ready. What epson would do is a 9:1 distilled water/clear household ammnoia flush with a tygon tube connected to the inkjet inlet. Put a couple of ml through each jet...with gentle syringe pressure. I just had two 1160's die this way in the last couple of weeks...these desktop machines are disposable printers...the flush didn't help...but perhaps they were already too far gone. Both printers had done several thousand prints. Robert On 5/28/02 9:36 AM, "Julian Thomas" <julianthomas@...> wrote: > OK, matte and gloss papers, output dpi of 526 (tried changing this) , great > head checks, and I'm getting visible microbanding ona number of files. Done > the windex trick. Any ideas - or is it one of those where i switch off and > wait?? I've had this before but changing the dpi (thanks Nij) helped [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2002-05-28 by Robert Morrison
Have you tried this cleaning procedure? Apparently there is a fair bit of variability in the desktop printer heads. I've been lucky that I've had 5 printers that worked well so far...but they haven't lasted for ever. Its possible that the intermittent nature of your problem might be humidity related...you might want to get a gauge and track that. Robert
On 5/28/02 10:01 AM, "Simon Lamb" <simon@...> wrote: > I get microbanding on an 1160 that has only done about 100 prints. One day I > see microbands, the next it prints fine. It is intermittent and I cannot find > a solution other than try again another day, which isn't ideal. I hope the > heads are not about to die as it is a relatively new printer. > > Simon > Robert Morrison wrote: > > The print head is on its way out...make sure you have its replacement ready. > What epson would do is a 9:1 distilled water/clear household ammnoia flush > with a tygon tube connected to the inkjet inlet. Put a couple of ml through > each jet...with gentle syringe pressure. > > I just had two 1160's die this way in the last couple of weeks...these > desktop machines are disposable printers...the flush didn't help...but > perhaps they were already too far gone. Both printers had done several > thousand prints. > > Robert > > On 5/28/02 9:36 AM, "Julian Thomas" <julianthomas@...> wrote: > >> OK, matte and gloss papers, output dpi of 526 (tried changing this) , great >> head checks, and I'm getting visible microbanding ona number of files. Done >> the windex trick. Any ideas - or is it one of those where i switch off and >> wait?? I've had this before but changing the dpi (thanks Nij) helped > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other > resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > "flames." > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various > resources on the homepage. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >
2002-05-28 by Austin Franklin
> OK, matte and gloss papers, output dpi of 526 (tried changing > this) , great > head checks, and I'm getting visible microbanding ona number of > files. Done > the windex trick. Any ideas - or is it one of those where i switch off and > wait?? I've had this before but changing the dpi (thanks Nij) helped Hi Julian, Could be simply alignment. What printer is it? Regards, Austin
2002-05-28 by gschern
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Julian Thomas" <julianthomas@t...> wrote: > 1160 - I've got it properly aligned - tried both + and 0 settings. Just done > a flush image and it looks OK but, images are hell. I'm a bit suspicious > that head checks are good and I'm still getting this... > Julian ... could it be the paper advance mechanism and not the print head?
2002-05-28 by Julian Thomas
1160 - I've got it properly aligned - tried both + and 0 settings. Just done a flush image and it looks OK but, images are hell. I'm a bit suspicious that head checks are good and I'm still getting this... Julian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Austin Franklin" <darkroom@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 7:17 PM Subject: RE: [Digital BW] microbanding > > > OK, matte and gloss papers, output dpi of 526 (tried changing > > this) , great > > head checks, and I'm getting visible microbanding ona number of > > files. Done > > the windex trick. Any ideas - or is it one of those where i switch off and > > wait?? I've had this before but changing the dpi (thanks Nij) helped > > Hi Julian, > > Could be simply alignment. What printer is it? > > Regards, > > Austin > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or "flames." > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage.
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2002-05-28 by Julian Thomas
Hmmm, don't know. I guess if it was the advance I'd see something in the flsuh image... bugger! J ----- Original Message ----- From: "gschern" <gschern@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 8:06 PM Subject: Re: [Digital BW] microbanding > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Julian Thomas" > <julianthomas@t...> wrote: > > 1160 - I've got it properly aligned - tried both + and 0 settings. > Just done > > a flush image and it looks OK but, images are hell. I'm a bit > suspicious > > that head checks are good and I'm still getting this... > > Julian > > ... could it be the paper advance mechanism and not the print head? > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or "flames." > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage.
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2002-05-28 by Robert Morrison
Both of my printers that went out had perfect nozzle checks and perfect head alignment checks...but banded like heck with both Cone and MIS inks...with both the piezo and epson drivers. Robert
On 5/28/02 11:08 AM, "Julian Thomas" <julianthomas@...> wrote: > 1160 - I've got it properly aligned - tried both + and 0 settings. Just done > a flush image and it looks OK but, images are hell. I'm a bit suspicious > that head checks are good and I'm still getting this... > Julian > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Austin Franklin" <darkroom@...> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 7:17 PM > Subject: RE: [Digital BW] microbanding > > >> >>> OK, matte and gloss papers, output dpi of 526 (tried changing >>> this) , great >>> head checks, and I'm getting visible microbanding ona number of >>> files. Done >>> the windex trick. Any ideas - or is it one of those where i switch off > and >>> wait?? I've had this before but changing the dpi (thanks Nij) helped >> >> Hi Julian, >> >> Could be simply alignment. What printer is it? >> >> Regards, >> >> Austin >> >> >> >> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and > other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: >> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint >> >> Please follow these basic guidelines: >> - Include your full name with your message. >> - Include the address of your website, if you have one. >> - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. >> - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. >> - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > "flames." >> - Complete your Yahoo profile. >> - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various > resources on the homepage. >> >> >> >> >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >> >> >> > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other > resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > "flames." > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various > resources on the homepage. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >
2002-05-28 by Doug Fisher
The "high speed" setting in the print driver (if using Epson's) hasn't somehow been changed, has it? I find I need this always turned off. Doug
-----Original Message----- From: Julian Thomas [mailto:julianthomas@...] Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 2:09 PM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Digital BW] microbanding 1160 - I've got it properly aligned - tried both + and 0 settings. Just done a flush image and it looks OK but, images are hell. I'm a bit suspicious that head checks are good and I'm still getting this... Julian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Austin Franklin" <darkroom@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 7:17 PM Subject: RE: [Digital BW] microbanding > > > OK, matte and gloss papers, output dpi of 526 (tried changing > > this) , great > > head checks, and I'm getting visible microbanding ona number of > > files. Done > > the windex trick. Any ideas - or is it one of those where i switch off and > > wait?? I've had this before but changing the dpi (thanks Nij) helped > > Hi Julian, > > Could be simply alignment. What printer is it? > > Regards, > > Austin > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or "flames." > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint Please follow these basic guidelines: - Include your full name with your message. - Include the address of your website, if you have one. - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or "flames." - Complete your Yahoo profile. - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
2002-05-28 by Julian Thomas
I'm printing through a piezo driver so I think it over rides the epson. Julian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Fisher" <dougfisher@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 8:50 PM Subject: RE: [Digital BW] microbanding > The "high speed" setting in the print driver (if using Epson's) hasn't > somehow been changed, has it? I find I need this always turned off. > > Doug > > -----Original Message----- > From: Julian Thomas [mailto:julianthomas@...] > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 2:09 PM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] microbanding > > > 1160 - I've got it properly aligned - tried both + and 0 settings. Just done > a flush image and it looks OK but, images are hell. I'm a bit suspicious > that head checks are good and I'm still getting this... > Julian > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Austin Franklin" <darkroom@...> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 7:17 PM > Subject: RE: [Digital BW] microbanding > > > > > > > OK, matte and gloss papers, output dpi of 526 (tried changing > > > this) , great > > > head checks, and I'm getting visible microbanding ona number of > > > files. Done > > > the windex trick. Any ideas - or is it one of those where i switch off > and > > > wait?? I've had this before but changing the dpi (thanks Nij) helped > > > > Hi Julian, > > > > Could be simply alignment. What printer is it? > > > > Regards, > > > > Austin > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and > other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > > - Include your full name with your message. > > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > "flames." > > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various > resources on the homepage. > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and > other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > "flames." > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various > resources on the homepage. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or "flames." > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage.
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2002-05-28 by Simon Lamb
I haven¹t tried the cleaning procedure you outlines yet, basically because when I turn the printer on again the next day it works fine. It works fine 90% of the time and then I get microbanding which clears itself up. I might give it a preventative maintenance clean this weekend. Simon On 28/5/02 6:17 pm, "Robert Morrison" <rmorrison@...> wrote: > Have you tried this cleaning procedure? Apparently there is a fair bit of > variability in the desktop printer heads. I've been lucky that I've had 5 > printers that worked well so far...but they haven't lasted for ever. Its > possible that the intermittent nature of your problem might be humidity > related...you might want to get a gauge and track that. > > Robert > > On 5/28/02 10:01 AM, "Simon Lamb" <simon@...> wrote: > >> > I get microbanding on an 1160 that has only done about 100 prints. One day I >> > see microbands, the next it prints fine. It is intermittent and I cannot >> find >> > a solution other than try again another day, which isn't ideal. I hope the >> > heads are not about to die as it is a relatively new printer. >> > >> > Simon >> > Robert Morrison wrote: >> > >> > The print head is on its way out...make sure you have its replacement >> ready. >> > What epson would do is a 9:1 distilled water/clear household ammnoia flush >> > with a tygon tube connected to the inkjet inlet. Put a couple of ml >> through >> > each jet...with gentle syringe pressure. >> > >> > I just had two 1160's die this way in the last couple of weeks...these >> > desktop machines are disposable printers...the flush didn't help...but >> > perhaps they were already too far gone. Both printers had done several >> > thousand prints. >> > >> > Robert >> > >> > On 5/28/02 9:36 AM, "Julian Thomas" <julianthomas@...> wrote: >> > >>> >> OK, matte and gloss papers, output dpi of 526 (tried changing this) , >>> great >>> >> head checks, and I'm getting visible microbanding ona number of files. >>> Done >>> >> the windex trick. Any ideas - or is it one of those where i switch off >>> and >>> >> wait?? I've had this before but changing the dpi (thanks Nij) helped [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2002-05-28 by Austin Franklin
Hi Julian, The alignment you do with the driver maintenance is only one of many alignments. The other alignments are mechanical only (as opposed to controllable by software), and require a special testing program (or a damn lot of patience) to do, as well as access to the mechanical levers/screws that allow you to accomplish this alignment. If you want more information on the other alignments, ask and I'll try to get some time to write it up a bit...or find an old post that has the info in it for you. Regards, Austin
> 1160 - I've got it properly aligned - tried both + and 0 > settings. Just done > a flush image and it looks OK but, images are hell. I'm a bit suspicious > that head checks are good and I'm still getting this... > Julian > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Austin Franklin" <darkroom@...> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 7:17 PM > Subject: RE: [Digital BW] microbanding > > > > > > > OK, matte and gloss papers, output dpi of 526 (tried changing > > > this) , great > > > head checks, and I'm getting visible microbanding ona number of > > > files. Done > > > the windex trick. Any ideas - or is it one of those where i switch off > and > > > wait?? I've had this before but changing the dpi (thanks Nij) helped > > > > Hi Julian, > > > > Could be simply alignment. What printer is it? > > > > Regards, > > > > Austin
2002-05-29 by jimhayes361
Please see my recent post #14992 Jim H. --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Austin Franklin" <darkroom@i...> wrote: > > Hi Julian, > > The alignment you do with the driver maintenance is only one of many > alignments. The other alignments are mechanical only (as opposed to > controllable by software), and require a special testing program (or a damn > lot of patience) to do, as well as access to the mechanical levers/screws > that allow you to accomplish this alignment. > > If you want more information on the other alignments, ask and I'll try to > get some time to write it up a bit...or find an old post that has the info > in it for you. > > Regards, > > Austin > > > > 1160 - I've got it properly aligned - tried both + and 0 > > settings. Just done > > a flush image and it looks OK but, images are hell. I'm a bit suspicious > > that head checks are good and I'm still getting this... > > Julian > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Austin Franklin" <darkroom@i...> > > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 7:17 PM > > Subject: RE: [Digital BW] microbanding > > > > > > > > > > > OK, matte and gloss papers, output dpi of 526 (tried changing > > > > this) , great > > > > head checks, and I'm getting visible microbanding ona number of > > > > files. Done > > > > the windex trick. Any ideas - or is it one of those where i switch off > > and > > > > wait?? I've had this before but changing the dpi (thanks Nij) helped
> > > > > > Hi Julian, > > > > > > Could be simply alignment. What printer is it? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Austin
2002-05-29 by Austin Franklin
Jim, Thanks. There is possibly more to the alignment than your post indicates, depending on the printer. For the 1160 and the 3000, the alignments that the special alignment software prints patterns for are a "Black Head Angular Adjustment", "Head Linear Adjustment" and the "Color Head Angular Adjustment". All the software does is print a pattern (different for each of the three adjustments), and the operator adjusts the corresponding lever depending on the results of the pattern that was printed, until the printed pattern is correct. The order of the adjustments is very specific, as one relies on the previous one to be done correctly. BTW, I believe the Epson utility runs under DOS, not W98, unless there is a different version of it than I used. Regards, Austin
> Please see my recent post #14992 > Jim H. > > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Austin Franklin" > <darkroom@i...> wrote: > > > > Hi Julian, > > > > The alignment you do with the driver maintenance is only one of many > > alignments. The other alignments are mechanical only (as opposed to > > controllable by software), and require a special testing program (or > a damn > > lot of patience) to do, as well as access to the mechanical > levers/screws > > that allow you to accomplish this alignment. > > > > If you want more information on the other alignments, ask and I'll > try to > > get some time to write it up a bit...or find an old post that has > the info > > in it for you. > > > > Regards, > > > > Austin > > > > > > > 1160 - I've got it properly aligned - tried both + and 0 > > > settings. Just done > > > a flush image and it looks OK but, images are hell. I'm a bit > suspicious > > > that head checks are good and I'm still getting this... > > > Julian > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Austin Franklin" <darkroom@i...> > > > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 7:17 PM > > > Subject: RE: [Digital BW] microbanding > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OK, matte and gloss papers, output dpi of 526 (tried changing > > > > > this) , great > > > > > head checks, and I'm getting visible microbanding ona number > of > > > > > files. Done > > > > > the windex trick. Any ideas - or is it one of those where i > switch off > > > and > > > > > wait?? I've had this before but changing the dpi (thanks Nij) > helped > > > > > > > > Hi Julian, > > > > > > > > Could be simply alignment. What printer is it? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Austin
2002-05-29 by Julian Thomas
Austin, I'd very much like more info. I'm getting married in a couple of days so my PC time is really limited - but I'll contact you after i get back from Sicily (agreed not to take a camera so I'm just taking my Holgas!) Julian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Austin Franklin" <darkroom@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 1:43 AM Subject: RE: [Digital BW] microbanding > > Hi Julian, > > The alignment you do with the driver maintenance is only one of many > alignments. The other alignments are mechanical only (as opposed to > controllable by software), and require a special testing program (or a damn > lot of patience) to do, as well as access to the mechanical levers/screws > that allow you to accomplish this alignment. > > If you want more information on the other alignments, ask and I'll try to > get some time to write it up a bit...or find an old post that has the info > in it for you. > > Regards, > > Austin > > > > 1160 - I've got it properly aligned - tried both + and 0 > > settings. Just done > > a flush image and it looks OK but, images are hell. I'm a bit suspicious > > that head checks are good and I'm still getting this... > > Julian > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Austin Franklin" <darkroom@...> > > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 7:17 PM > > Subject: RE: [Digital BW] microbanding > > > > > > > > > > > OK, matte and gloss papers, output dpi of 526 (tried changing > > > > this) , great > > > > head checks, and I'm getting visible microbanding ona number of > > > > files. Done > > > > the windex trick. Any ideas - or is it one of those where i switch off > > and > > > > wait?? I've had this before but changing the dpi (thanks Nij) helped > > > > > > Hi Julian, > > > > > > Could be simply alignment. What printer is it? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Austin > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or "flames." > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage.
> > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >
2002-05-29 by Alessandro Pardi
Julian, congratulations! Looks like it's wedding time: for me it's June, 3, and I'm going from Italy to a spanish island (Lanzarote). By the way, back to your problem, have you tried printing with the epson driver rather than with piezo? Just to make sure it's a hardware issue. Alessandro
-----Original Message----- From: Julian Thomas [mailto:julianthomas@...] Sent: mercoledì 29 maggio 2002 10.24 To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Digital BW] microbanding Austin, I'd very much like more info. I'm getting married in a couple of days so my PC time is really limited - but I'll contact you after i get back from Sicily (agreed not to take a camera so I'm just taking my Holgas!) Julian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Austin Franklin" <darkroom@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 1:43 AM Subject: RE: [Digital BW] microbanding > > Hi Julian, > > The alignment you do with the driver maintenance is only one of many > alignments. The other alignments are mechanical only (as opposed to > controllable by software), and require a special testing program (or a damn > lot of patience) to do, as well as access to the mechanical levers/screws > that allow you to accomplish this alignment. > > If you want more information on the other alignments, ask and I'll try to > get some time to write it up a bit...or find an old post that has the info > in it for you. > > Regards, > > Austin > > > > 1160 - I've got it properly aligned - tried both + and 0 > > settings. Just done > > a flush image and it looks OK but, images are hell. I'm a bit suspicious > > that head checks are good and I'm still getting this... > > Julian > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Austin Franklin" <darkroom@...> > > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 7:17 PM > > Subject: RE: [Digital BW] microbanding > > > > > > > > > > > OK, matte and gloss papers, output dpi of 526 (tried changing > > > > this) , great > > > > head checks, and I'm getting visible microbanding ona number of > > > > files. Done > > > > the windex trick. Any ideas - or is it one of those where i switch off > > and > > > > wait?? I've had this before but changing the dpi (thanks Nij) helped > > > > > > Hi Julian, > > > > > > Could be simply alignment. What printer is it? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Austin > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint> > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or "flames." > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint> Please follow these basic guidelines: - Include your full name with your message. - Include the address of your website, if you have one. - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or "flames." - Complete your Yahoo profile. - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2002-05-29 by Julian Thomas
good point, no I haven;'t . As you can imagine, I'm starting to get serious grief for trying to solve this! Didn't help when in response to some serious talk about 'do you really need to do this now' I muttered that I could have bought an Imacon, a new pc and a 7000 for the price of this wedding and then I wouldn't need to spend time fixing a consumer PC!' Not my finest hour (sigh). Good luck on the 3rd! Julian
----- Original Message ----- From: "Alessandro Pardi" <alessandro.pardi@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 10:26 AM Subject: RE: [Digital BW] microbanding Julian, congratulations! Looks like it's wedding time: for me it's June, 3, and I'm going from Italy to a spanish island (Lanzarote). By the way, back to your problem, have you tried printing with the epson driver rather than with piezo? Just to make sure it's a hardware issue. Alessandro -----Original Message----- From: Julian Thomas [mailto:julianthomas@...] Sent: mercoled\ufffd 29 maggio 2002 10.24 To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Digital BW] microbanding Austin, I'd very much like more info. I'm getting married in a couple of days so my PC time is really limited - but I'll contact you after i get back from Sicily (agreed not to take a camera so I'm just taking my Holgas!) Julian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Austin Franklin" <darkroom@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 1:43 AM Subject: RE: [Digital BW] microbanding > > Hi Julian, > > The alignment you do with the driver maintenance is only one of many > alignments. The other alignments are mechanical only (as opposed to > controllable by software), and require a special testing program (or a damn > lot of patience) to do, as well as access to the mechanical levers/screws > that allow you to accomplish this alignment. > > If you want more information on the other alignments, ask and I'll try to > get some time to write it up a bit...or find an old post that has the info > in it for you. > > Regards, > > Austin > > > > 1160 - I've got it properly aligned - tried both + and 0 > > settings. Just done > > a flush image and it looks OK but, images are hell. I'm a bit suspicious > > that head checks are good and I'm still getting this... > > Julian > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Austin Franklin" <darkroom@...> > > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 7:17 PM > > Subject: RE: [Digital BW] microbanding > > > > > > > > > > > OK, matte and gloss papers, output dpi of 526 (tried changing > > > > this) , great > > > > head checks, and I'm getting visible microbanding ona number of > > > > files. Done > > > > the windex trick. Any ideas - or is it one of those where i switch off > > and > > > > wait?? I've had this before but changing the dpi (thanks Nij) helped > > > > > > Hi Julian, > > > > > > Could be simply alignment. What printer is it? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Austin > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint> > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or "flames." > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint> Please follow these basic guidelines: - Include your full name with your message. - Include the address of your website, if you have one. - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or "flames." - Complete your Yahoo profile. - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint Please follow these basic guidelines: - Include your full name with your message. - Include the address of your website, if you have one. - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or "flames." - Complete your Yahoo profile. - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
2002-05-29 by jimhayes361
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Austin Franklin" <darkroom@i...> wrote: > > Jim, > > Thanks. There is possibly more to the alignment than your post indicates, > depending on the printer. Could be, I'm parroting whats in the 760 manual. It shows a splash sceen drawing that implies one can align an 1160 with the software too, by selecting a radio button. For the 1160 and the 3000, the alignments that > the special alignment software prints patterns for are a "Black Head Angular > Adjustment", "Head Linear Adjustment" and the "Color Head Angular > Adjustment". Since the instructions were written for the 760, it is possible that the 1160 subroutine, when selected instead, might add the color head adjustment, etc. All the software does is print a pattern (different for each > of the three adjustments), and the operator adjusts the corresponding lever > depending on the results of the pattern that was printed, until the printed > pattern is correct. This is what the manual implies for the 760. It prints out a pattern for each alignment, and either a lever or screw is adjusted, as near as I can fathom. The order of the adjustments is very specific, as one > relies on the previous one to be done correctly. > > BTW, I believe the Epson utility runs under DOS, not W98, unless there is a > different version of it than I used. Interesting. It just says that you need Win98 and an LPT port. But that doesn't rule out that it WONT switch over to DOS when run. I think it was trying to stress that the alignments would reburn the EPROMS, which has to be done through the LPT port, AFAIK. It's imoprtant to remember that I am just repeating what I read in the shop manual for a similar but not duplicate printer, and that I read the procedure, but didn't follow it through myself, not having the software. Jim H. > > Regards, > > Austin > > > > Please see my recent post #14992 > > Jim H. > > > > > > > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Austin Franklin" > > <darkroom@i...> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Julian, > > > > > > The alignment you do with the driver maintenance is only one of many > > > alignments. The other alignments are mechanical only (as opposed to > > > controllable by software), and require a special testing program (or > > a damn > > > lot of patience) to do, as well as access to the mechanical > > levers/screws > > > that allow you to accomplish this alignment. > > > > > > If you want more information on the other alignments, ask and I'll > > try to > > > get some time to write it up a bit...or find an old post that has > > the info > > > in it for you. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Austin > > > > > > > > > > 1160 - I've got it properly aligned - tried both + and 0 > > > > settings. Just done > > > > a flush image and it looks OK but, images are hell. I'm a bit > > suspicious > > > > that head checks are good and I'm still getting this... > > > > Julian > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Austin Franklin" <darkroom@i...> > > > > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 7:17 PM > > > > Subject: RE: [Digital BW] microbanding > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OK, matte and gloss papers, output dpi of 526 (tried changing > > > > > > this) , great > > > > > > head checks, and I'm getting visible microbanding ona number > > of > > > > > > files. Done > > > > > > the windex trick. Any ideas - or is it one of those where i > > switch off > > > > and > > > > > > wait?? I've had this before but changing the dpi (thanks Nij)
> > helped > > > > > > > > > > Hi Julian, > > > > > > > > > > Could be simply alignment. What printer is it? > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Austin
2002-05-29 by Austin Franklin
Hi Jim, > I > think it was trying to stress that the alignments would reburn the > EPROMS, which has to be done through the LPT port, AFAIK. It's probably just a small NVRAM that's used for these parameters. Also, at least on the 3000, there is a way to reset things from the front panel, like the ink pad counter... Regards, Austin
2002-05-30 by antonisphoto
Julian, in case these ideas haven't occurred to you yet: - sometimes perfect nozzle checks are perfect because they don't require a sustained ink delivery of heavy loads over a stretch of time. So you can have a partial "obstruction" or not enough pressure in the lines that only shows up sometimes under heavy load demands. - The ammonia injection sounds good, but before that, have you tried cleaning under the heads? There are two levels to that (!!): One is the Windex- (or Fantastik-) soaked (lintless) kitchen paper towel neatly wrapped to fit in the channel under the heads. The heads are raised with the lever at + , then brought over the towel, lowered with the lever at - and manually moved back and forth to clean the underneath of the carriage. The "advanced" version is to use a pipe cleaner . Leave the heads at +, then extend the pipe cleaner wire under the heads so it comes out the other side. Using both hands (gently) move the cleaner back and forth. Remove and rinse as often as necessary. This has the added advantage of not wasting any consumables!! Of course, you can soak the cleaner in the cleaning liquid of your choice, too. Either way, expect to do several cleaning cycles afterwards to get rid of the junk left behind by either the towel or the pipe cleaner. The idea is they dislodge the hard stuff but leave soft fuzz behind which goes away after a few cycles. Good luck - and whatever you do with the printer, enjoy the wedding and your time in Sicily (and, come on now, aren't there other cameras besides the Holgas that would qualify as "not having a camera"? <g>). Cheers, Antonis --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Julian Thomas" <julianthomas@t...> wrote: > good point, no I haven;'t . As you can imagine, I'm starting to get serious > grief for trying to solve this!