Simply use the residual foam method. Keep drawing ink through the
bottom with a syringe. Eventually you will get solid ink everywhere.
Actually you need some air in the cart to act as an anti-siphon so the
ink won't all flow from the bottle into the printer.
You may have to draw a lot through. Keep emptying it back into the
bottle.
If it's working okay now fine. If you get nozzle skips in the future
then do this. No methanol.
Jim H.
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Bob_Michaels
<Bob@B...>" <Bob@B...> wrote:
> Well, I just put everything together the way it way. ran a few
> cleaning cycles, got good nozzle checks, then printed about five
purge
> test patterns. There is a lot of air in the lines but it seems to be
> printing OK. And, the ink is flowing through the tubes.
>
> The problem may be there there is too much air and not enough ink in
> the carts. Only time will tell. At least it's working now.
>
> I'll just see how this works. If it doesn't I'll get new carts and
> start over. This time I won't make the mistakes I did the first
time.
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Shilesh Jani
> <shilesh.jani@s...>" <shilesh.jani@s...> wrote:
> > Bob,
> >
> > I am afraid, once you have some ink and air in the cartridge,
there
> > is really no way to refill, unless you first remove all of the
> > residual foam. Otherwise you will get crappy nozzle checks. I
know
> > it sucks, but there is no point in rushing things. Re-prepping
(or a
> > new cartridge) is the only way to go. If you suck from the
bottom,
> > you are likely to suck the air into the cart, which will not help.
> > Give it a try - at most you will waste some ink/time.
> >
> > Good luck.
> >
> > Shilesh
> >
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Bob_Michaels
> > <Bob@B...>" <Bob@B...> wrote:
> > > Shilesh:
> > > Thanks again. Can't I accomplish the same thing by leaving the
feed
> > > line connected to the cart with the end of the feed line
inserted
> > down
> > > into the CFS ink bottle, then just suck ink through the cart
using
> > the
> > > bottom fill adapte? It seems that should fill the cart and line
with
> > > fresh ink and create some sort of vacumn inside the cart. I do
have
> > > some methanol but I'm afraid that will stay in the foam inside
the
> > > cart and dilute the ink. Or does that make a difference?
> > > Bob Michaels
> > >
> > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Shilesh
Jani
> > > <shilesh.jani@s...>" <shilesh.jani@s...> wrote:
> > > > Bob,
> > > >
> > > > In that case, take the feed line out of the cartridge. Then
find
> > a
> > > > way to seal that connector temporarily. Use the bottom feed
> > adapter
> > > > and a 60 cc syringe to suck out most of the inks already in
the
> > > > cartridge. You will have to do this many times, to extract as
> > much
> > > > of the inks as possible, including any of the foam. Then make
> > sure
> > > > you remove all of the breached tape seal from the exit port.
> > Reseal
> > > > this port using electrical tape. It is very important that
this
> > tape
> > > > seals the exit port completely (otherwise you will not be able
to
> > > > acheive vacuum). Re attach the feed tube, and follow the
vacuum
> > > > filling process. If inks comes out into the feed lines, at
this
> > > > stage you know that you did not remove all of the ink. You
don't
> > > > happen to have metahnol around do you? Or 100% alcohol (don't
> > waste
> > > > the 30 year single malt;-). If you have methanol, you might
be
> > able
> > > > to flush the cart, to help drive out more of the ink.
> > > >
> > > > Good luck.
> > > >
> > > > Shilesh
> > > >
> > > > --- In
> > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Bob_Michaels
> > > > <Bob@B...>" <Bob@B...> wrote:
> > > > > Shilesh:
> > > > > I have no idea how much ink went into the cart. I just know
> > that the
> > > > > black ink line is almost all air while the others are almost
> > all
> > > > ink.
> > > > > I tried starting over with the vacumn pump but that's
pulling
> > ink
> > > > out
> > > > > of the cart instead of air.
> > > > > I know if I can fix it, just want to do it tonight instead
of
> > > > waiting
> > > > > for MIS to send me a new black ink cart.
> > > > > I'll probably just try the bottom fill adapter. All I can do
is
> > get
> > > > > ink all over the place.
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Bob Michaels.--- In
> > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > "Shilesh Jani <shilesh.jani@s...>" <shilesh.jani@s...>
wrote:
> > > > > > Bob,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Don't panic ---yet;-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Did the black cartridge fill with ink? If the answer to
this
> > is
> > > > yes,
> > > > > > I would not worry too much about the air in the feed line.
> > Whne
> > > > you
> > > > > > install the cartridges in the printer, inks will begin to
be
> > > > sucked
> > > > > > in, and the little bit of air in the feed line will end up
on
> > top
> > > > of
> > > > > > ink in the cartridge. This is no problem at all.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If, however, little or no ink went in the cartridge, you
may
> > have
> > > > to
> > > > > > start the process over again (prefereably with a new empty
> > black
> > > > > > cartridge.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Good luck.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Shilesh
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In
> > > > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Bob_Michaels
> > > > > > <Bob@B...>" <Bob@B...> wrote:
> > > > > > > I'm currently installing a MIS CFS system in my 1280
for
> > the
> > > > first
> > > > > > > time. I just filled the carts using the vacumn pump.
> > Somehow I
> > > > must
> > > > > > > have gotten the black tube above the ink level while
> > filling it
> > > > > > > because I ended up with mostly air in the feed line
(the
> > other
> > > > are
> > > > > > > mostly ink).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Can I just use the supplied bottom fill adapter and suck
> > ink
> > > > out of
> > > > > > > the bottle into the line and cart? If so, do I have to
wait
> > a
> > > > few
> > > > > > > hours for the bubbles to go out of the ink in the cart
> > before I
> > > > > > > install it?
> > > > > > > Is it better to do this before or after I install the
cart
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> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > printer?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Any other thoughts?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bob Michaels