Digital BW, The Print

Has anyone one this vendor for 2400 empty carts? Are they reliable?

Thank you.

Shilesh

http://cgi.ebay.com/Refillable-Ink-Cartridges-Epson-R2400-T0591-
T0599_W0QQitemZ220164787773QQihZ012QQcategoryZ16200QQtcZphotoQQcmdZView
Item

I used this type cart in my 2400 and they leaked badly.  I think the  
fit is not that good and they didn't seal properly.  There are other  
suppliers on/off ebay selling the same carts, which I assume all come  
from China.  I don't think I bought them from this specific  
supplier.  My 2400 died last year and I now use an 1800 as a  
replacement.

Carl

On Nov 29, 2007, at 9:29 AM, Shilesh Jani wrote:

> Has anyone one this vendor for 2400 empty carts? Are they reliable?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Shilesh
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Refillable-Ink-Cartridges-Epson-R2400-T0591-
> T0599_W0QQitemZ220164787773QQihZ012QQcategoryZ16200QQtcZphotoQQcmdZVie 
> w
> Item
>

Carl,

>My 2400 died last year...

What happened to it?



Regards,
Clayton


Info on black and white digital printing at    
http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm

Carl

I gather that there are a number of suppliers in China - are you sure
that this is the same one as yours?  How recently was this?

I'm also in the market for some refillables for a 2400.  Are there any
online suppliers that people can positively recommend?

(I realise that a post like this may attract a number of warnings from
people who have had bad experiences.  I've read the warnings and on
this occasion would like to hear from those, if any, with positive
recommendations.)

F_P


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield
<list@...> wrote:
>
> I used this type cart in my 2400 and they leaked badly.  I think the  
> fit is not that good and they didn't seal properly.  There are other  
> suppliers on/off ebay selling the same carts, which I assume all come  
> from China.  I don't think I bought them from this specific  
> supplier.  My 2400 died last year and I now use an 1800 as a  
> replacement.
> 
> Carl
> 
> On Nov 29, 2007, at 9:29 AM, Shilesh Jani wrote:
> 
> > Has anyone one this vendor for 2400 empty carts? Are they reliable?
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Shilesh
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/Refillable-Ink-Cartridges-Epson-R2400-T0591-
> >
T0599_W0QQitemZ220164787773QQihZ012QQcategoryZ16200QQtcZphotoQQcmdZVie 

> > w
> > Item
> >
>

Not really sure Clayton.  I got the all lights flashing syndrome and  
warning that the printer needs to be serviced, but nothing specific.   
There are no simple key sequences (as with the older models like the  
1270) for re-setting and no Mac recovery software that I could find  
to get it going again.

Regards,
Carl

On Nov 30, 2007, at 10:59 PM, Clayton Jones wrote:

> Carl,
>
>> My 2400 died last year...
>
> What happened to it?
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Clayton
>
>
> Info on black and white digital printing at
> http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm
>

That is true and I don't know that this is the same cartridge - they  
just look the same.  This was last year that I purchased the carts.   
I use refillable carts from MIS for my 1800 that work fine.  I  
purchased some extras a couple of months ago, but I don't know if  
they are still selling them.

Carl

On Dec 1, 2007, at 5:01 AM, ferdinand_paris wrote:

> Carl
>
> I gather that there are a number of suppliers in China - are you sure
> that this is the same one as yours?  How recently was this?
>
> I'm also in the market for some refillables for a 2400.  Are there any
> online suppliers that people can positively recommend?
>
> (I realise that a post like this may attract a number of warnings from
> people who have had bad experiences.  I've read the warnings and on
> this occasion would like to hear from those, if any, with positive
> recommendations.)
>
> F_P
>
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield
> <list@...> wrote:
>>
>> I used this type cart in my 2400 and they leaked badly.  I think the
>> fit is not that good and they didn't seal properly.  There are other
>> suppliers on/off ebay selling the same carts, which I assume all come
>> from China.  I don't think I bought them from this specific
>> supplier.  My 2400 died last year and I now use an 1800 as a
>> replacement.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> On Nov 29, 2007, at 9:29 AM, Shilesh Jani wrote:
>>
>>> Has anyone one this vendor for 2400 empty carts? Are they reliable?
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Shilesh
>>>
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/Refillable-Ink-Cartridges-Epson-R2400-T0591-
>>>
> T0599_W0QQitemZ220164787773QQihZ012QQcategoryZ16200QQtcZphotoQQcmdZVie
>>> w
>>> Item
>>>

My understanding was that all these refillable carts come from China
(hence Epson using trade sanctions as a lever).  Thus it is something
of a lottery.  Even for MIS (as some of the complaints on this forum
indicate).  

And who knows if I buy from the same supplier as you, whether or not
the supplier sources from a different manufacturer?  Again a lottery
for all.  The advantage of buying yourself via ebay is that at least
they're cheap, and I can justify buying more to maximise my odds.

If that fails, I guess there is refilling OEM carts using these new
nipples from R-Jet Tek.

Re your dead R2400, my understanding is that it's fairly inexpensive
to buy a service manual online.  Might be a worthwhile investment to
diagnose the problem.

F_P


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield
<list@...> wrote:

>
> That is true and I don't know that this is the same cartridge - they  
> just look the same.  This was last year that I purchased the carts.   
> I use refillable carts from MIS for my 1800 that work fine.  I  
> purchased some extras a couple of months ago, but I don't know if  
> they are still selling them.
> 
> Carl
> 
> On Dec 1, 2007, at 5:01 AM, ferdinand_paris wrote:
> 
> > Carl
> >
> > I gather that there are a number of suppliers in China - are you sure
> > that this is the same one as yours?  How recently was this?
> >
> > I'm also in the market for some refillables for a 2400.  Are there any
> > online suppliers that people can positively recommend?
> >
> > (I realise that a post like this may attract a number of warnings from
> > people who have had bad experiences.  I've read the warnings and on
> > this occasion would like to hear from those, if any, with positive
> > recommendations.)
> >
> > F_P
> >
> >
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield
> > <list@> wrote:
> >>
> >> I used this type cart in my 2400 and they leaked badly.  I think the
> >> fit is not that good and they didn't seal properly.  There are other
> >> suppliers on/off ebay selling the same carts, which I assume all come
> >> from China.  I don't think I bought them from this specific
> >> supplier.  My 2400 died last year and I now use an 1800 as a
> >> replacement.
> >>
> >> Carl
> >>
> >> On Nov 29, 2007, at 9:29 AM, Shilesh Jani wrote:
> >>
> >>> Has anyone one this vendor for 2400 empty carts? Are they reliable?
> >>>
> >>> Thank you.
> >>>
> >>> Shilesh
> >>>
> >>> http://cgi.ebay.com/Refillable-Ink-Cartridges-Epson-R2400-T0591-
> >>>
> > T0599_W0QQitemZ220164787773QQihZ012QQcategoryZ16200QQtcZphotoQQcmdZVie
> >>> w
> >>> Item
> >>>
>

Or look into a CIS.  I just bought one from Ink Republic.  I'm not sure 
if the trade ruling effects the dampers they use. When I get it 
installed, I'll report back.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Peter De Smidt <pdesmidt@...> 
wrote:
>
> Or look into a CIS.  I just bought one from Ink Republic.  I'm not sure 
> if the trade ruling effects the dampers they use. When I get it 
> installed, I'll report back.
>

If you're looking at CIS as a possibility (I would considering the recent Epson/ITC ruling) a 
good choice is here: http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.362672/it.A/id.3077/.f

Regards

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield <list@...> wrote:
>
> Not really sure Clayton.  I got the all lights flashing syndrome and  
> warning that the printer needs to be serviced, but nothing specific.   

Carl, I just had an R220 go through that today.  Fortunately I've been through it before with 
another R220.  Very possibly could be waste pad registering as full--both red lights flashing, 
something on the order of Internal parts worn out--must be serviced.  

 I borrow a Windoze laptop, dowload the Russian utility (SSC) , load the printer driver onto 
the borrowed PC and use the Protection Counter Reset utility in SSC to reset the waste 
counter.  My experience has been that lots of cleaning cycles will set off the wastepad shut 
down long before it's necessary.  I looked at the wastepad on the printer that shut down 
today and I would say it was less than 1/4 full.  The utility reported 20k whatever cycles out 
of a maximum of 46k allowed. Borrowing the PC (and even worse, having to use it, was a 
pain but it does the trick;)  If you have an intel mac it might be worth a copy of windoze 98 
just to have the SSC utility around.

Thanks for the tip Robert.  I'll see if the 2400 can be revived with  
this technique.

Carl

On Dec 1, 2007, at 9:59 PM, robert49brake wrote:

> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield  
> <list@...> wrote:
>>
>> Not really sure Clayton.  I got the all lights flashing syndrome and
>> warning that the printer needs to be serviced, but nothing specific.
>
> Carl, I just had an R220 go through that today.  Fortunately I've  
> been through it before with
> another R220.  Very possibly could be waste pad registering as  
> full--both red lights flashing,
> something on the order of Internal parts worn out--must be serviced.
>
>  I borrow a Windoze laptop, dowload the Russian utility (SSC) ,  
> load the printer driver onto
> the borrowed PC and use the Protection Counter Reset utility in SSC  
> to reset the waste
> counter.  My experience has been that lots of cleaning cycles will  
> set off the wastepad shut
> down long before it's necessary.  I looked at the wastepad on the  
> printer that shut down
> today and I would say it was less than 1/4 full.  The utility  
> reported 20k whatever cycles out
> of a maximum of 46k allowed. Borrowing the PC (and even worse,  
> having to use it, was a
> pain but it does the trick;)  If you have an intel mac it might be  
> worth a copy of windoze 98
> just to have the SSC utility around.
>

Ok, I am new to this group, but for the life of me I can not understand that
if you want quality images from your better Epson printers, especially those
that take the K inks why anyone would want to save a few bucks buying
refillable inks if you expect quality images and no problems coming from
your Epson photo printers!!

There is no way I  would subject my r2400 or any other Epson printer for
that matter to 3rd party inks.

Richard


On 12/1/07 9:35 PM, "Carl Schofield" <list@...> wrote:

>  
>  
>  
> 
> Thanks for the tip Robert.  I'll see if the 2400 can be revived with
> this technique.
> 
> Carl
> On Dec 1, 2007, at 9:59 PM, robert49brake wrote:
> 
>> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>> <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> , Carl Schofield
>> > <list@...> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Not really sure Clayton.  I got the all lights flashing syndrome and
>>> >> warning that the printer needs to be serviced, but nothing specific.
>> >
>> > Carl, I just had an R220 go through that today.  Fortunately I've
>> > been through it before with
>> > another R220.  Very possibly could be waste pad registering as
>> > full--both red lights flashing,
>> > something on the order of Internal parts worn out--must be serviced.
>> >
>> >  I borrow a Windoze laptop, dowload the Russian utility (SSC) ,
>> > load the printer driver onto
>> > the borrowed PC and use the Protection Counter Reset utility in SSC
>> > to reset the waste
>> > counter.  My experience has been that lots of cleaning cycles will
>> > set off the wastepad shut
>> > down long before it's necessary.  I looked at the wastepad on the
>> > printer that shut down
>> > today and I would say it was less than 1/4 full.  The utility
>> > reported 20k whatever cycles out
>> > of a maximum of 46k allowed. Borrowing the PC (and even worse,
>> > having to use it, was a
>> > pain but it does the trick;)  If you have an intel mac it might be
>> > worth a copy of windoze 98
>> > just to have the SSC utility around.
>> >
>  
>     




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

If I may interject: the early versions of SSC required Win 98, but 
the current one runs just fine on XP-I recently re-set my R1800 that 
way. You can also use the R2400 Adjustment program,which you don't 
even have to install, it doesn't go through the Win registry.

Steve Karafyllakis


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield 
<list@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the tip Robert.  I'll see if the 2400 can be revived 
with  
> this technique.
> 
> Carl
> On Dec 1, 2007, at 9:59 PM, robert49brake wrote:
> 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl 
Schofield  
> > <list@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Not really sure Clayton.  I got the all lights flashing syndrome 
and
> >> warning that the printer needs to be serviced, but nothing 
specific.
> >
> > Carl, I just had an R220 go through that today.  Fortunately 
I've  
> > been through it before with
> > another R220.  Very possibly could be waste pad registering as  
> > full--both red lights flashing,
> > something on the order of Internal parts worn out--must be 
serviced.
> >
> >  I borrow a Windoze laptop, dowload the Russian utility (SSC) ,  
> > load the printer driver onto
> > the borrowed PC and use the Protection Counter Reset utility in 
SSC  
> > to reset the waste
> > counter.  My experience has been that lots of cleaning cycles 
will  
> > set off the wastepad shut
> > down long before it's necessary.  I looked at the wastepad on 
the  
> > printer that shut down
> > today and I would say it was less than 1/4 full.  The utility  
> > reported 20k whatever cycles out
> > of a maximum of 46k allowed. Borrowing the PC (and even worse,  
> > having to use it, was a
> > pain but it does the trick;)  If you have an intel mac it might 
be  

> > worth a copy of windoze 98
> > just to have the SSC utility around.
> >
>

Richard

In my first post in this thread, I said

"(I realise that a post like this may attract a number of warnings
from people who have had bad experiences. I've read the warnings and
on this occasion would like to hear from those, if any, with positive
recommendations.)"

I answer your question, though, because (i) if you do enough printing
it's not just "a few bucks", and (ii) It's my protest against Epson's
pricing, marketing and enforcement policies.

I remain interesting in hearing *positive* recommendations about
either (a) refillable cart sources (not CIS), and/or (b) 3rd party K3
(i.e. colour) replacement inks that people are happy with in the R2400.

There are enough threads here debating OEM vs 3rd party.  Please don't
crowd out my request for positive recommendations by turning this into
another one.

F_P



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Richard Siegel
<roustabout1066@...> wrote:
>
> Ok, I am new to this group, but for the life of me I can not
understand that
> if you want quality images from your better Epson printers,
especially those

> that take the K inks why anyone would want to save a few bucks buying
> refillable inks if you expect quality images and no problems coming from
> your Epson photo printers!!
> 
> There is no way I  would subject my r2400 or any other Epson printer for
> that matter to 3rd party inks.
> 
> Richard

Steve,

Where do you find the R2400 Adjustment program?

Thanks,
Carl

On Dec 2, 2007, at 12:07 AM, Steven Karafyllakis wrote:

> If I may interject: the early versions of SSC required Win 98, but
> the current one runs just fine on XP-I recently re-set my R1800 that
> way. You can also use the R2400 Adjustment program,which you don't
> even have to install, it doesn't go through the Win registry.
>
> Steve Karafyllakis
>
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield
> <list@...> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the tip Robert.  I'll see if the 2400 can be revived
> with
>> this technique.
>>
>> Carl
>> On Dec 1, 2007, at 9:59 PM, robert49brake wrote:
>>
>>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl
> Schofield
>>> <list@> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Not really sure Clayton.  I got the all lights flashing syndrome
> and
>>>> warning that the printer needs to be serviced, but nothing
> specific.
>>>
>>> Carl, I just had an R220 go through that today.  Fortunately
> I've
>>> been through it before with
>>> another R220.  Very possibly could be waste pad registering as
>>> full--both red lights flashing,
>>> something on the order of Internal parts worn out--must be
> serviced.
>>>
>>>  I borrow a Windoze laptop, dowload the Russian utility (SSC) ,
>>> load the printer driver onto
>>> the borrowed PC and use the Protection Counter Reset utility in
> SSC
>>> to reset the waste
>>> counter.  My experience has been that lots of cleaning cycles
> will
>>> set off the wastepad shut
>>> down long before it's necessary.  I looked at the wastepad on
> the
>>> printer that shut down
>>> today and I would say it was less than 1/4 full.  The utility
>>> reported 20k whatever cycles out
>>> of a maximum of 46k allowed. Borrowing the PC (and even worse,
>>> having to use it, was a
>>> pain but it does the trick;)  If you have an intel mac it might
> be
>>> worth a copy of windoze 98
>>> just to have the SSC utility around.
>>>
>>

Carl,

You can download a copy of SSC Service utility from:

http://www.ssclg.com/epsone.shtml

A reminder, this's a Windows program.

Hope this help.
John

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield 
<list@...> wrote:

>
> Steve,
> 
> Where do you find the R2400 Adjustment program?
> 
> Thanks,
> Carl
> 
> On Dec 2, 2007, at 12:07 AM, Steven Karafyllakis wrote:
> 
> > If I may interject: the early versions of SSC required Win 98, but
> > the current one runs just fine on XP-I recently re-set my R1800 that
> > way. You can also use the R2400 Adjustment program,which you don't
> > even have to install, it doesn't go through the Win registry.
> >
> > Steve Karafyllakis

On Dec 1, 2007, at 5:07 PM, kingdexter34 wrote:

> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Peter De Smidt  
> <pdesmidt@...>
> wrote:
>> Or look into a CIS.  I just bought one from Ink Republic. [snip]
>
> If you're looking at CIS as a possibility (I would considering the  
> recent Epson/ITC ruling) a
> good choice is here: <http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.362672/ 
> it.A/id.3077/.f> [snip]

Thanks, Dexter, for your recommendation of the new ConeColor ink and  
CIS system for the 2400.

I'm thinking about trying it and wondering about the re-filling  
details. Do you just pour from the four-ounce bottles into the  
respective Cone carts without relocating them? Or using a funnel? I'm  
a little worried about how I'd control the risk of spills or drips, etc.

I'd also like to hear preliminary reports on using Jon's new  
ConeColor ink and CIS system for the 2400 with specific software-and- 
paper combinations. And for color as well as B&W prints, which I  
sometimes use for note cards printed on both sides of two-sided papers.

Thanks.
--
Sam

Thanks John.

Carl

On Dec 2, 2007, at 11:56 AM, John wrote:

> Carl,
>
> You can download a copy of SSC Service utility from:
>
> http://www.ssclg.com/epsone.shtml
>
> A reminder, this's a Windows program.
>
> Hope this help.
> John
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield
> <list@...> wrote:
>>
>> Steve,
>>
>> Where do you find the R2400 Adjustment program?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Carl
>>
>> On Dec 2, 2007, at 12:07 AM, Steven Karafyllakis wrote:
>>
>>> If I may interject: the early versions of SSC required Win 98, but
>>> the current one runs just fine on XP-I recently re-set my R1800 that
>>> way. You can also use the R2400 Adjustment program,which you don't
>>> even have to install, it doesn't go through the Win registry.
>>>
>>> Steve Karafyllakis
>

Oops: instead of what I wrote below, I should have asked about how  
exactly users top up the Cone "reservoirs" (not its carts).

On Dec 2, 2007, at 9:10 AM, Sam McCandless wrote:

> On Dec 1, 2007, at 5:07 PM, kingdexter34 wrote:
>
>> [snip] If you're looking at CIS as a possibility (I would  
>> considering the
>> recent Epson/ITC ruling) a good choice is here:
>> <http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.362672/ it.A/id.3077/.f>
>> [snip]
>
> Thanks, Dexter, for your recommendation of the new ConeColor ink and
> CIS system for the 2400.
>
> I'm thinking about trying it and wondering about the re-filling
> details. Do you just pour from the four-ounce bottles into the
> respective Cone carts without relocating them? Or using a funnel? I'm
> a little worried about how I'd control the risk of spills or drips,  
> etc.
>
> I'd also like to hear preliminary reports on using Jon's new
> ConeColor ink and CIS system for the 2400 with specific software-and-
> paper combinations. And for color as well as B&W prints, which I
> sometimes use for note cards printed on both sides of two-sided  
> papers.
>
> Thanks.
> --
> Sam

Carl;

The adjustment program is available from 2manuals.com, costs about 
$10.00
The SSC is free-and covers a lot of printers-the only minor issue 
being having to install it-and give those annoying Russians your 
email address. 

Steve

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield 
<list@...> wrote:
>
> Steve,
> 
> Where do you find the R2400 Adjustment program?
> 
> Thanks,
> Carl
> 
> On Dec 2, 2007, at 12:07 AM, Steven Karafyllakis wrote:
> 
> > If I may interject: the early versions of SSC required Win 98, but
> > the current one runs just fine on XP-I recently re-set my R1800 
that
> > way. You can also use the R2400 Adjustment program,which you don't
> > even have to install, it doesn't go through the Win registry.
> >
> > Steve Karafyllakis
> >
> >
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl 
Schofield
> > <list@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks for the tip Robert.  I'll see if the 2400 can be revived
> > with
> >> this technique.
> >>
> >> Carl
> >> On Dec 1, 2007, at 9:59 PM, robert49brake wrote:
> >>
> >>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl
> > Schofield
> >>> <list@> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Not really sure Clayton.  I got the all lights flashing 
syndrome

> > and
> >>>> warning that the printer needs to be serviced, but nothing
> > specific.
> >>>
> >>> Carl, I just had an R220 go through that today.  Fortunately
> > I've
> >>> been through it before with
> >>> another R220.  Very possibly could be waste pad registering as
> >>> full--both red lights flashing,
> >>> something on the order of Internal parts worn out--must be
> > serviced.
> >>>
> >>>  I borrow a Windoze laptop, dowload the Russian utility (SSC) ,
> >>> load the printer driver onto
> >>> the borrowed PC and use the Protection Counter Reset utility in
> > SSC
> >>> to reset the waste
> >>> counter.  My experience has been that lots of cleaning cycles
> > will
> >>> set off the wastepad shut
> >>> down long before it's necessary.  I looked at the wastepad on
> > the
> >>> printer that shut down
> >>> today and I would say it was less than 1/4 full.  The utility
> >>> reported 20k whatever cycles out
> >>> of a maximum of 46k allowed. Borrowing the PC (and even worse,
> >>> having to use it, was a
> >>> pain but it does the trick;)  If you have an intel mac it might
> > be
> >>> worth a copy of windoze 98
> >>> just to have the SSC utility around.
> >>>
> >>
>

Thanks Steve.  I'll give this a try with son's PC and see if the 2400  
has any life in it.  If so I'll keep it as a backup for my 1800 which  
continues to perform very well (fingers crossed).

Carl

On Dec 2, 2007, at 1:03 PM, Steven Karafyllakis wrote:

> Carl;
>
> The adjustment program is available from 2manuals.com, costs about
> $10.00
> The SSC is free-and covers a lot of printers-the only minor issue
> being having to install it-and give those annoying Russians your
> email address.
>
> Steve
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield
> <list@...> wrote:
>>
>> Steve,
>>
>> Where do you find the R2400 Adjustment program?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Carl
>>
>> On Dec 2, 2007, at 12:07 AM, Steven Karafyllakis wrote:
>>
>>> If I may interject: the early versions of SSC required Win 98, but
>>> the current one runs just fine on XP-I recently re-set my R1800
> that
>>> way. You can also use the R2400 Adjustment program,which you don't
>>> even have to install, it doesn't go through the Win registry.
>>>
>>> Steve Karafyllakis
>>>
>>>
>>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl
> Schofield
>>> <list@> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the tip Robert.  I'll see if the 2400 can be revived
>>> with
>>>> this technique.
>>>>
>>>> Carl
>>>> On Dec 1, 2007, at 9:59 PM, robert49brake wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl
>>> Schofield
>>>>> <list@> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not really sure Clayton.  I got the all lights flashing
> syndrome
>>> and
>>>>>> warning that the printer needs to be serviced, but nothing
>>> specific.
>>>>>
>>>>> Carl, I just had an R220 go through that today.  Fortunately
>>> I've
>>>>> been through it before with
>>>>> another R220.  Very possibly could be waste pad registering as
>>>>> full--both red lights flashing,
>>>>> something on the order of Internal parts worn out--must be
>>> serviced.
>>>>>
>>>>>  I borrow a Windoze laptop, dowload the Russian utility (SSC) ,
>>>>> load the printer driver onto
>>>>> the borrowed PC and use the Protection Counter Reset utility in
>>> SSC
>>>>> to reset the waste
>>>>> counter.  My experience has been that lots of cleaning cycles
>>> will
>>>>> set off the wastepad shut
>>>>> down long before it's necessary.  I looked at the wastepad on
>>> the
>>>>> printer that shut down
>>>>> today and I would say it was less than 1/4 full.  The utility
>>>>> reported 20k whatever cycles out
>>>>> of a maximum of 46k allowed. Borrowing the PC (and even worse,
>>>>> having to use it, was a
>>>>> pain but it does the trick;)  If you have an intel mac it might
>>> be
>>>>> worth a copy of windoze 98
>>>>> just to have the SSC utility around.
>>>>>
>>>>

>the only minor issue
>being having to install it-and give those annoying Russians your
>email address.

You should worry more about giving your email address to Americans; most 
spam still comes from there I believe!

Bob Frost.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steven Karafyllakis" <stevekphoto@...>

I was going to order these, and then I noticed that they only supply 8
carts in a set.  I queried this with them, and was told that you can
use the T0598 cart for both photo and matte black.  

This causes me several concerns.  First, if you are going to use both
photo and matte black, you are going to need two black cartridges to
do the swap.  Certainly my set of refillable carts for the 2200 has
two empties for black.  What have other people been supplied with?

Second, how does the printer respond if you give it a cart with a
matte black chip but photo black ink?  Can you use the printer
preference settings to tell it that no, in fact it is the other black ink?

If not, this will surely affect your paper choice options.  I thought
that the amount of ink that the printer driver put down on the paper
was influenced by what paper / ink combination it thinks it has.  Am I
right about this?

Ferdinand


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Shilesh Jani"
<shileshjani@...> wrote:
>
> Has anyone one this vendor for 2400 empty carts? Are they reliable?
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Shilesh
> 
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/Refillable-Ink-Cartridges-Epson-R2400-T0591-T0599_W0QQitemZ220164787773QQihZ012QQcategoryZ16200QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem
>

Paul Butzi has an essay on his experience with HP support at: 
http://photomusings.wordpress.com/ You'll have to scroll down to HP 
Support woes. Make sure to read the follow-up in a more recent posting.

My reason for mentioning this is that we need to be careful about 
knee-jerk reactions to having an issue with a specific brand. I'm not a 
fan of Epson's recent strategy, but I expect that the others would do 
exactly the same thing if they could.