VFX Rack version
2010-05-04 by gonzinigonz
So was there a rack version of the VFX or something close ever made? I thought there might of been but having looked maybe not..
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VFX Rack version
Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] VFX Rack version
2010-05-04 by Jon Carroll
Closest would be the SQR... next closest the Fizmo Rack but those are rare as hen's teeth ----- Original Message -----
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From: "gonzinigonz" <gonzinigonz@...> To: <Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 10:17 AM Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] VFX Rack version > So was there a rack version of the VFX or something close ever made? > I thought there might of been but having looked maybe not.. > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
Re: VFX Rack version
2010-05-04 by gonzinigonz
That must of been what saw then, on ebay i think.. I sold my VFX sometime back but i did sample it fully so not all is lost. Amazing sounds out of that but it had some issues so best gone.. I have a memory cartridge if anyone's interested, think its the VPC-100? Cheers --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Carroll" <joncarroll@...> wrote:
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> > Closest would be the SQR... next closest the Fizmo Rack but those are rare > as hen's teeth > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "gonzinigonz" <gonzinigonz@...> > To: <Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 10:17 AM > Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] VFX Rack version > > > > So was there a rack version of the VFX or something close ever made? > > I thought there might of been but having looked maybe not.. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
Re: VFX Rack version
2010-05-04 by suppers_ready86
To hijack this topic a bit, is it possible to create a rack version of the VFX? I have a VFX lying around here. Usual keyboard problems and still an unreliable instrument because of that darn keyboard. So I was thinking, is it possible to create a "rack" version of it? I already tried to see if it works over midi without the keyboard connected but that doesn't seem to work. Does anyone know a workaround for this? --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "gonzinigonz" <gonzinigonz@...> wrote:
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> > So was there a rack version of the VFX or something close ever made? > I thought there might of been but having looked maybe not.. >
Re: VFX Rack version
2010-05-04 by todamoonmusic
--- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "gonzinigonz" <gonzinigonz@...> wrote: > > I have a memory cartridge if anyone's interested, think its the VPC-100? > Cheers > I'd be interested in the cartridge....There's one on ebay for $30 but I'm not paying that for the most popular cartridge of the bunch.....I'd like to make a copy of it and post it in the file section here....I've already uploaded all 101 to 105 so that would finish off the series of those.....moon
Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: VFX Rack version
2010-05-04 by Bob S.
All those VPC files are available on the internet, at least they were.....I think I have them all somewhere.....and the cartridges....
Bob
El Segundo, CA
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> I have a memory cartridge if anyone's interested,
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> Cheers
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I'd be interested in the cartridge... .There's one on
ebay for $30 but I'm not paying that for the most
popular cartridge of the bunch.....I' d like to make a
copy of it and post it in the file section here....I've
already uploaded all 101 to 105 so that would finish
off the series of those.....moon
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> I have a memory cartridge if anyone's interested,
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I'd be interested in the cartridge... .There's one on
ebay for $30 but I'm not paying that for the most
popular cartridge of the bunch.....I' d like to make a
copy of it and post it in the file section here....I've
already uploaded all 101 to 105 so that would finish
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Re: VFX Rack version
2010-05-04 by todamoonmusic
Yeah, The files section has all of them....The problem with the vpc-100 file though is it doesn't contain all the patches...I asked people to help get that file updated several months ago to no avail.....If I had the cartridge then I could load/save in the SD, then convert to the midi format to post an updated library that is complete in the files section....Thanks....moon
Re: VFX Rack version
2010-05-04 by gonzinigonz
Maybe you could leave the keyboard controller connected but just disconnect the actual keyboard or is this what you did? If that worked then you would have to recreate the front panel which might be interesting to do... Nice idea though! I think you will find that thats all that happens with the Access range of synths having repaired a few. --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "suppers_ready86" <wallsofsound@...> wrote:
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> > To hijack this topic a bit, is it possible to create a rack version of the VFX? I have a VFX lying around here. Usual keyboard problems and still an unreliable instrument because of that darn keyboard. > > So I was thinking, is it possible to create a "rack" version of it? I already tried to see if it works over midi without the keyboard connected but that doesn't seem to work. > > Does anyone know a workaround for this? > > --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "gonzinigonz" <gonzinigonz@> wrote: > > > > So was there a rack version of the VFX or something close ever made? > > I thought there might of been but having looked maybe not.. > > >
Re: VFX Rack version
2010-05-04 by gonzinigonz
I might have that as a sysex file complete, i would have to look back in the depths of a few hard drives to see. When i get a chance l'll have a look. If i have someone will have to check its all there as i have no means to now. --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "todamoonmusic" <todamoonmusic@...> wrote:
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> > > Yeah, The files section has all of them....The problem with the vpc-100 file though is it doesn't contain all the patches...I asked people to help get that file updated several months ago to no avail.....If I had the cartridge then I could load/save in the SD, then convert to the midi format to post an updated library that is complete in the files section....Thanks....moon >
Re: VFX Rack version
2010-05-04 by gonzinigonz
l'll check to see which cartridge it is, im sure its the 100.. I might already have it in a sysex file here somewhere as i mention in another post.. Will have look :o) --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "todamoonmusic" <todamoonmusic@...> wrote:
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> > > > --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "gonzinigonz" <gonzinigonz@> wrote: > > > > I have a memory cartridge if anyone's interested, think its the VPC-100? > > Cheers > > > > I'd be interested in the cartridge....There's one on ebay for $30 but I'm not paying that for the most popular cartridge of the bunch.....I'd like to make a copy of it and post it in the file section here....I've already uploaded all 101 to 105 so that would finish off the series of those.....moon >
Re: VFX Rack version
2010-05-05 by Claus
Hi!
I promised to post the VPC-100. Couldn't find it, but now I have. Including some other ones as well (1000 series, I think it is).
I have them on floppys, so I just have to play them into cubase, and export as SYSEX, and that should be it?
Best, Claus
AudioSaucer
I promised to post the VPC-100. Couldn't find it, but now I have. Including some other ones as well (1000 series, I think it is).
I have them on floppys, so I just have to play them into cubase, and export as SYSEX, and that should be it?
Best, Claus
AudioSaucer
Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: VFX Rack version
2010-05-05 by Bob S.
I just put up vpc-100. Someone can
try it out...
I have about 50 other cartridge sets
on sysex.
Bob
El Segundo, CA
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Hi!
I promised to post the VPC-100. Couldn't find it, but now I have. Including some other ones as well (1000 series, I think it is).
I have them on floppys, so I just have to play them into cubase, and export as SYSEX, and that should be it?
Best, Claus
AudioSaucer
Re: VFX Rack version
2010-05-05 by todamoonmusic
Hi Claus.....If you still have your SD/VFX and a copy of soundlib, you should be able to make a simple transfer from the keyboard to soundlib and save it....That's what I was going to try because everyone has that program....Double check the 1000 series to make sure I didn't already upload those....I uploaded 1000a-1000d, a bonus and some of the ipc series along w/ vpc101-105 to the files section some time ago......Ironically, the only one we are missing is the most popular one that was shipped with all the VFX's when it came out, VPC-100....I've been keeping an eye out for a cartidge to finish it off but I'm not paying alot to do it....If someone could post it, that would be great.....Thanks.....moon --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, Claus <clauzii@...> wrote:
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> > > > > Hi! > I promised to post the VPC-100. Couldn't find it, but now I have. Including some other ones as well (1000 series, I think it is). > I have them on floppys, so I just have to play them into cubase, and export as SYSEX, and that should be it? > > Best, Claus > AudioSaucer >
Re: VFX Rack version
2010-05-05 by todamoonmusic
That sounds great Bob!....Just downloaded and will give it a try.....Thanks!.....moon --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "Bob S." <tttsystems@...> wrote:
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> > I just put up vpc-100. Someone can try it out... > > I have about 50 other cartridge sets on sysex. > > Bob > El Segundo, CA > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Claus > To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 5:19 PM > Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: VFX Rack version > > > > > > > Hi! > I promised to post the VPC-100. Couldn't find it, but now I have. Including some other ones as well (1000 series, I think it is). > I have them on floppys, so I just have to play them into cubase, and export as SYSEX, and that should be it? > > Best, Claus > AudioSaucer >
Re: VFX Rack version
2010-05-05 by todamoonmusic
It loaded up just fine Bob.....Thanks so much!....I didn't think they even made 50 different cartridge sets!....That's pretty amazing....Thanks again.....moon --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "todamoonmusic" <todamoonmusic@...> wrote:
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> > That sounds great Bob!....Just downloaded and will give it a try.....Thanks!.....moon > > --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "Bob S." <tttsystems@> wrote: > > > > I just put up vpc-100. Someone can try it out... > > > > I have about 50 other cartridge sets on sysex. > > > > Bob > > El Segundo, CA > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Claus > > To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 5:19 PM > > Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: VFX Rack version > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi! > > I promised to post the VPC-100. Couldn't find it, but now I have. Including some other ones as well (1000 series, I think it is). > > I have them on floppys, so I just have to play them into cubase, and export as SYSEX, and that should be it? > > > > Best, Claus > > AudioSaucer > > >
Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: VFX Rack version
2010-05-05 by Bob S.
Back in the prime years of the VFX, there
were about a dozen companies or more that made either cartridges or floppies
with complete banks of sounds and each company made 2 to 5 different
banks in their product line....that adds up quickly.
Bob
El Segundo, CA
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----- Original Message -----From: todamoonmusicSent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 6:40 PMSubject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: VFX Rack versionIt loaded up just fine Bob.....Thanks so much!....I didn't think they even made 50 different cartridge sets!....That's pretty amazing....Thanks again.....moon
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> That sounds great Bob!....Just downloaded and will give it a try.....Thanks!.....moon
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> --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "Bob S." > wrote:
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> > I just put up vpc-100. Someone can try it out...
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> > I have about 50 other cartridge sets on sysex.
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> > Bob
> > El Segundo, CA
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Claus
> > To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 5:19 PM
> > Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: VFX Rack version
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> >
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> > Hi!
> > I promised to post the VPC-100. Couldn't find it, but now I have. Including some other ones as well (1000 series, I think it is).
> > I have them on floppys, so I just have to play them into cubase, and export as SYSEX, and that should be it?
> >
> > Best, Claus
> > AudioSaucer
> >
>
Re: VFX Rack version
2010-05-05 by suppers_ready86
Well I disconnected everything (so the keybed and its circuit boards. Leaving the ribbon cable unused). The idea for the rack version is to work around the problems the keyboard circuitboard gives. If there is no keyboard and circuit to generate problems, then the VFX will work hassle free. However, the VFX seems to need a keyboard to actually work. Otherwise it will keep failing the keyboard callibration (with no keyboard attached) and won't load further. --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "gonzinigonz" <gonzinigonz@...> wrote:
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> > Maybe you could leave the keyboard controller connected but just disconnect the actual keyboard or is this what you did? > If that worked then you would have to recreate the front panel which might be interesting to do... > Nice idea though! I think you will find that thats all that happens with the Access range of synths having repaired a few. > > --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "suppers_ready86" <wallsofsound@> wrote: > > > > To hijack this topic a bit, is it possible to create a rack version of the VFX? I have a VFX lying around here. Usual keyboard problems and still an unreliable instrument because of that darn keyboard. > > > > So I was thinking, is it possible to create a "rack" version of it? I already tried to see if it works over midi without the keyboard connected but that doesn't seem to work. > > > > Does anyone know a workaround for this? > > > > --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "gonzinigonz" <gonzinigonz@> wrote: > > > > > > So was there a rack version of the VFX or something close ever made? > > > I thought there might of been but having looked maybe not.. > > > > > >
Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: VFX Rack version
2010-05-05 by Christian Brunschen
On 5 May 2010, at 02:16, todamoonmusic wrote: > Hi Claus.....If you still have your SD/VFX and a copy of soundlib, > you should be able to make a simple transfer from the keyboard to > soundlib and save it....That's what I was going to try because > everyone has that program Please post any files in a neutral format, rather than a format specific to any particular program - I, for instance, don't have "soundlib"; I don't use Windows. Best wishes, // Christian Brunschen
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> ....Double check the 1000 series to make sure I didn't already > upload those....I uploaded 1000a-1000d, a bonus and some of the ipc > series along w/ vpc101-105 to the files section some time > ago......Ironically, the only one we are missing is the most popular > one that was shipped with all the VFX's when it came out, > VPC-100....I've been keeping an eye out for a cartidge to finish it > off but I'm not paying alot to do it....If someone could post it, > that would be great.....Thanks.....moon > > --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, Claus <clauzii@...> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Hi! >> I promised to post the VPC-100. Couldn't find it, but now I have. >> Including some other ones as well (1000 series, I think it is). >> I have them on floppys, so I just have to play them into cubase, >> and export as SYSEX, and that should be it? >> >> Best, Claus >> AudioSaucer >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
Re: VFX Rack version
2010-05-05 by gonzinigonz
So if i recall correctly there is a small board that deals with the keyboard. I guess if you still remove the actual keyboard from that board it will still throw the calibration error.. Sure there would be some kind of work around. Sorting out the front panel so it would fit in a 1U or 2U space would still be a bit of hard work though. --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "suppers_ready86" <wallsofsound@...> wrote:
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> > Well I disconnected everything (so the keybed and its circuit boards. Leaving the ribbon cable unused). > > The idea for the rack version is to work around the problems the keyboard circuitboard gives. If there is no keyboard and circuit to generate problems, then the VFX will work hassle free. > > However, the VFX seems to need a keyboard to actually work. Otherwise it will keep failing the keyboard callibration (with no keyboard attached) and won't load further. > > > > --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "gonzinigonz" <gonzinigonz@> wrote: > > > > Maybe you could leave the keyboard controller connected but just disconnect the actual keyboard or is this what you did? > > If that worked then you would have to recreate the front panel which might be interesting to do... > > Nice idea though! I think you will find that thats all that happens with the Access range of synths having repaired a few. > > > > --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "suppers_ready86" <wallsofsound@> wrote: > > > > > > To hijack this topic a bit, is it possible to create a rack version of the VFX? I have a VFX lying around here. Usual keyboard problems and still an unreliable instrument because of that darn keyboard. > > > > > > So I was thinking, is it possible to create a "rack" version of it? I already tried to see if it works over midi without the keyboard connected but that doesn't seem to work. > > > > > > Does anyone know a workaround for this? > > > > > > --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "gonzinigonz" <gonzinigonz@> wrote: > > > > > > > > So was there a rack version of the VFX or something close ever made? > > > > I thought there might of been but having looked maybe not.. > > > > > > > > > >
Re: VFX Rack version
2010-05-05 by todamoonmusic
Hello Christian...FYI...I *THINK* the Soundlib files ARE sys ex files so you should be able to take those files into whatever you use to send sys ex files and they should work....Definitely try it out because I think it would work....moon --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, Christian Brunschen <cb@...> wrote:
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> Please post any files in a neutral format, rather than a format > specific to any particular program - I, for instance, don't have > "soundlib"; I don't use Windows. > > Best wishes, > > // Christian Brunschen >
Re: VFX Rack version
2010-05-06 by suppers_ready86
Well a design like the Yamaha TX7 could be possible. The large display can be in the sloped side. In fact, that makes it more like a desktop version which is also fine for me (but heck, just the original case with keybed removed is also fine for me as is a simple casing). Desktop version could be mounted on a rackrail plate. But having it work over only Midi without a keyboard seems more difficult I think. Any ideas for some kind of workaround for the keyboard? --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "gonzinigonz" <gonzinigonz@...> wrote:
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> > So if i recall correctly there is a small board that deals with the keyboard. > I guess if you still remove the actual keyboard from that board it will still throw the calibration error.. > Sure there would be some kind of work around. > Sorting out the front panel so it would fit in a 1U or 2U space would still be a bit of hard work though. > > > > --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "suppers_ready86" <wallsofsound@> wrote: > > > > Well I disconnected everything (so the keybed and its circuit boards. Leaving the ribbon cable unused). > > > > The idea for the rack version is to work around the problems the keyboard circuitboard gives. If there is no keyboard and circuit to generate problems, then the VFX will work hassle free. > > > > However, the VFX seems to need a keyboard to actually work. Otherwise it will keep failing the keyboard callibration (with no keyboard attached) and won't load further. > > > > > > > > --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "gonzinigonz" <gonzinigonz@> wrote: > > > > > > Maybe you could leave the keyboard controller connected but just disconnect the actual keyboard or is this what you did? > > > If that worked then you would have to recreate the front panel which might be interesting to do... > > > Nice idea though! I think you will find that thats all that happens with the Access range of synths having repaired a few. > > > > > > --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "suppers_ready86" <wallsofsound@> wrote: > > > > > > > > To hijack this topic a bit, is it possible to create a rack version of the VFX? I have a VFX lying around here. Usual keyboard problems and still an unreliable instrument because of that darn keyboard. > > > > > > > > So I was thinking, is it possible to create a "rack" version of it? I already tried to see if it works over midi without the keyboard connected but that doesn't seem to work. > > > > > > > > Does anyone know a workaround for this? > > > > > > > > --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "gonzinigonz" <gonzinigonz@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > So was there a rack version of the VFX or something close ever made? > > > > > I thought there might of been but having looked maybe not.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: VFX Rack version
2010-05-06 by Claus
Hi!
Regarding Rackmounting the VFX:
The Keybord electronics (the little board under the keybed), will need to be attached all the time.
The keys hemselves cannot be removed, without changing the capacitance on the PCB-coils.
The solution COULD be to measure this capacitance for a key (the coil), and then replacing the coil with
a capacitor of the same value. This should be possible somehow.
Another (more bold) solution would be to cut up the keybord, and mount it inside the Rack-case,
which would then need to be quite big(!).
I would say it isn't impossible to rackmount the VFX(SD et all), but since the keyboard is Polyphonic Aftertouch
capable, and very few new synthesizers are that, it would be crippling the whole machine.
Another solution would be to buffer the connection between the keybed PCB and the little computer seated under it,
keeping the key-computer in the rack, and making some kind of connection for the keyboard to that rackbox.
I've been thinking of doing that, but everytime I consider it, IF it failed and destroyed the VFX, I stay away from doing it.
Seems I love it too much, to dvelve into 'experiments in that direction. But it might happen someday, who knows.
Best, Claus
AudioSaucer, DK
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Well a design like the Yamaha TX7 could be possible. The large display can be in the sloped side.
In fact, that makes it more like a desktop version which is also fine for me (but heck, just the original case with keybed removed is also fine for me as is a simple casing). Desktop version could be mounted on a rackrail plate.
But having it work over only Midi without a keyboard seems more difficult I think.
Any ideas for some kind of workaround for the keyboard?
--- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "gonzinigonz" <gonzinigonz@...> wrote:Show quoted textHide quoted text
> > So if i recall correctly there is a small board that deals with the keyboard. > I guess if you still remove the actual keyboard from that board it will still throw the calibration error.. > Sure there would be some kind of work around. > Sorting out the front panel so it would fit in a 1U or 2U space would still be a bit of hard work though. > > > > --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "suppers_ready86" <wallsofsound@> wrote: > > > > Well I disconnected everything (so the keybed and its circuit boards. Leaving the ribbon cable unused). > > > > The idea for the rack version is to work around the problems the keyboard circuitboard gives. If there is no keyboard and circuit to generate problems, then the VFX will work hassle free. > > > > However, the VFX seems to need a keyboard to actually work. Otherwise it will keep failing the keyboard callibration (with no keyboard attached) and won't load further. > > > > > > > > --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "gonzinigonz" <gonzinigonz@> wrote: > > > > > > Maybe you could leave the keyboard controller connected but just disconnect the actual keyboard or is this what you did? > > > If that worked then you would have to recreate the front panel which might be interesting to do... > > > Nice idea though! I think you will find that thats all that happens with the Access range of synths having repaired a few. > > > > > > --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "suppers_ready86" <wallsofsound@> wrote: > > > > > > > > To hijack this topic a bit, is it possible to create a rack version of the VFX? I have a VFX lying around here. Usual keyboard problems and still an unreliable instrument because of that darn keyboard. > > > > > > > > So I was thinking, is it possible to create a "rack" version of it? I already tried to see if it works over midi without the keyboard connected but that doesn't seem to work. > > > > > > > > Does anyone know a workaround for this? > > > > > > > > --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "gonzinigonz" <gonzinigonz@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > So was there a rack version of the VFX or something close ever made? > > > > > I thought there might of been but having looked maybe not.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: VFX Rack version
2010-05-07 by jammie
get an kpc board from an eps16+ rack this is what is used when testing the mother board to see if the keyboard is functioning properly or the the mother board is functioning properly it has the scanner rom and cpu and instead of the coil boards its switches are done direct from the midi input and will except poly pressure signal from other keyboards but you wont find many with poly pressure as it is an ensoniq product and all thow you can buy replacement keybeds from fatar they only have mono pressure aftertouch
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Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: VFX Rack version
Hi!
Regarding Rackmounting the VFX:
The Keybord electronics (the little board under the keybed), will need to be attached all the time.
The keys hemselves cannot be removed, without changing the capacitance on the PCB-coils.
The solution COULD be to measure this capacitance for a key (the coil), and then replacing the coil with
a capacitor of the same value. This should be possible somehow.
Another (more bold) solution would be to cut up the keybord, and mount it inside the Rack-case,
which would then need to be quite big(!).
I would say it isn't impossible to rackmount the VFX(SD et all), but since the keyboard is Polyphonic Aftertouch
capable, and very few new synthesizers are that, it would be crippling the whole machine.
Another solution would be to buffer the connection between the keybed PCB and the little computer seated under it,
keeping the key-computer in the rack, and making some kind of connection for the keyboard to that rackbox.
I've been thinking of doing that, but everytime I consider it, IF it failed and destroyed the VFX, I stay away from doing it.
Seems I love it too much, to dvelve into 'experiments in that direction. But it might happen someday, who knows.
Best, Claus
AudioSaucer, DK
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From: suppers_ready86 <wallsofsound@...>
To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD <Ensoniq-VFX-SD@...m>
Sent: Thu, May 6, 2010 11:41 am
Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: VFX Rack version
Well a design like the Yamaha TX7 could be possible. The large display can be in the sloped side.
In fact, that makes it more like a desktop version which is also fine for me (but heck, just the original case with keybed removed is also fine for me as is a simple casing). Desktop version could be mounted on a rackrail plate.
But having it work over only Midi without a keyboard seems more difficult I think.
Any ideas for some kind of workaround for the keyboard?
--- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "gonzinigonz" <gonzinigonz@...> wrote:
>
> So if i recall correctly there is a small board that deals with the keyboard.
> I guess if you still remove the actual keyboard from that board it will still throw the calibration error..
> Sure there would be some kind of work around.
> Sorting out the front panel so it would fit in a 1U or 2U space would still be a bit of hard work though.
>
>
>
> --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "suppers_ready86" <wallsofsound@> wrote:
> >
> > Well I disconnected everything (so the keybed and its circuit boards. Leaving the ribbon cable unused).
> >
> > The idea for the rack version is to work around the problems the keyboard circuitboard gives. If there is no keyboard and circuit to generate problems, then the VFX will work hassle free.
> >
> > However, the VFX seems to need a keyboard to actually work. Otherwise it will keep failing the keyboard callibration (with no keyboard attached) and won't load further.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "gonzinigonz" <gonzinigonz@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Maybe you could leave the keyboard controller connected but just disconnect the actual keyboard or is this what you did?
> > > If that worked then you would have to recreate the front panel which might be interesting to do...
> > > Nice idea though! I think you will find that thats all that happens with the Access range of synths having repaired a few.
> > >
> > > --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "suppers_ready86" <wallsofsound@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > To hijack this topic a bit, is it possible to create a rack version of the VFX? I have a VFX lying around here. Usual keyboard problems and still an unreliable instrument because of that darn keyboard.
> > > >
> > > > So I was thinking, is it possible to create a "rack" version of it? I already tried to see if it works over midi without the keyboard connected but that doesn't seem to work.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone know a workaround for this?
> > > >
> > > > --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "gonzinigonz" <gonzinigonz@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > So was there a rack version of the VFX or something close ever made?
> > > > > I thought there might of been but having looked maybe not..
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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2010-05-07 by Claus
Hi! Or maybe a new EPROM for the KPC board in the VFX would be possible? That would be really nice actually. Best, Claus AudioSaucer, DK
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From: jammie <jammie.emma@...>
To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD <Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, May 7, 2010 9:08 pm
Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: VFX Rack version
get an kpc board from an eps16+ rack this is what is used when testing the mother board to see if the keyboard is functioning properly or the the mother board is functioning properly
it has the scanner rom and cpu and instead of the coil boards its switches are done direct from the midi input and will except poly pressure signal from other keyboards but you wont find many with poly pressure as it is an ensoniq product and all thow you can buy replacement keybeds from fatar they only have mono pressure aftertouch
----- Original Message -----
From: Claus
To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: VFX Rack version
Hi!
Regarding Rackmounting the VFX:
The Keybord electronics (the little board under the keybed), will need to be attached all the time.
The keys hemselves cannot be removed, without changing the capacitance on the PCB-coils.
The solution COULD be to measure this capacitance for a key (the coil), and then replacing the coil with
a capacitor of the same value. This should be possible somehow.
Another (more bold) solution would be to cut up the keybord, and mount it inside the Rack-case,
which would then need to be quite big(!).
I would say it isn't impossible to rackmount the VFX(SD et all), but since the keyboard is Polyphonic Aftertouch
capable, and very few new synthesizers are that, it would be crippling the whole machine.
Another solution would be to buffer the connection between the keybed PCB and the little computer seated under it,
keeping the key-computer in the rack, and making some kind of connection for the keyboard to that rackbox.
I've been thinking of doing that, but everytime I consider it, IF it failed and destroyed the VFX, I stay away from doing it.
Seems I love it too much, to dvelve into 'experiments in that direction. But it might happen someday, who knows.
Best, Claus
AudioSaucer, DK
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From: suppers_ready86 <wallsofsound@home.nl>
To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD <Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, May 6, 2010 11:41 am
Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: VFX Rack version
Well a design like the Yamaha TX7 could be possible. The large display can be in the sloped side.
In fact, that makes it more like a desktop version which is also fine for me (but heck, just the original case with keybed removed is also fine for me as is a simple casing). Desktop version could be mounted on a rackrail plate.
But having it work over only Midi without a keyboard seems more difficult I think.
Any ideas for some kind of workaround for the keyboard?
--- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "gonzinigonz" <gonzinigonz@...> wrote:
>
> So if i recall correctly there is a small board that deals with the keyboard.
> I guess if you still remove the actual keyboard from that board it will still throw the calibration error..
> Sure there would be some kind of work around.
> Sorting out the front panel so it would fit in a 1U or 2U space would still be a bit of hard work though.
>
>
>
> --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "suppers_ready86" <wallsofsound@> wrote:
> >
> > Well I disconnected everything (so the keybed and its circuit boards. Leaving the ribbon cable unused).
> >
> > The idea for the rack version is to work around the problems the keyboard circuitboard gives. If there is no keyboard and circuit to generate problems, then the VFX will work hassle free.
> >
> > However, the VFX seems to need a keyboard to actually work. Otherwise it will keep failing the keyboard callibration (with no keyboard attached) and won't load further.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "gonzinigonz" <gonzinigonz@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Maybe you could leave the keyboard controller connected but just disconnect the actual keyboard or is this what you did?
> > > If that worked then you would have to recreate the front panel which might be interesting to do...
> > > Nice idea though! I think you will find that thats all that happens with the Access range of synths having repaired a few.
> > >
> > > --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "suppers_ready86" <wallsofsound@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > To hijack this topic a bit, is it possible to create a rack version of the VFX? I have a VFX lying around here. Usual keyboard problems and still an unreliable instrument because of that darn keyboard.
> > > >
> > > > So I was thinking, is it possible to create a "rack" version of it? I already tried to see if it works over midi without the keyboard connected but that doesn't seem to work.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone know a workaround for this?
> > > >
> > > > --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "gonzinigonz" <gonzinigonz@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > So was there a rack version of the VFX or something close ever made?
> > > > > I thought there might of been but having looked maybe not..
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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2010-05-07 by jammie
eps16+ is the nearest rack version same engine same
effects but no rom easy fix with a all sound rom sampled thats what i did with
mine and to recreat the patches is easy with soundiver as all parameters are
visual you just put your samples in the same order as they are in the vfx/sd1
and add the layers the same
there are quite a few multi samples and a lot of
single samples as in the transwaves which use singkle cycle additive waves in a
100 string
but you can do more with the eps16+/asr10 as you
can make your own transwaves and being able to layer 8 voices you can do
wavesequencing with the looping envelopes
all paremetrs are the same so its easy to dial in
the data from lookig at the sound diver screen and adding the numbers to the
same associated parameter
the sqr is an synth on the cocept of the esq1 and
sq80 with only 3 layers per patch but you loose the am and sink and analog
filters
but the sqr is a great sounding synth and has most
of the sound set of the vfx with added transwaves that the vfx or ts10 dont have
but also looses a few that the vfx has if you get the sqr+32 it has the same
piano as the sd1 but it is only mono pressure and the effects are very limited
and cant be added as the eps16+/asr10/ts10
most patches can be converted to the sqr but any
vfx patches with more than 3 layers cant be made
the ts10 can do most sd1 and vfx patches but apart
from the transwaves as there are only 8 and 6 of the 8 are not even in the vfx
they are vocal type transwaves as in arhh uhh ahh ooh eii
the fizmo rack would be a nice synth but its not a
vfx/sd1 its a totally different beast made on the otto4 synth chip from the asrx
pro sampler drummachine and uses the esp chip of the asr10
the oto4 synth chip has more polyphony and has
resonat filters
the fizmo has all transwaves as its rom plus drum
samples and so is very hard to emulate a vfx with it
most of the transwaves are clipping type and not
resonat type as they are in the vfx becuase of the resonat digital filters which
the earlier ensoniq keyboards lacked unless you used the waveboy resonant disk
which can rewrite the esp dsp eprom but only in the samplers and ts10 not sure
if you can rewrite the effects chip in the sd1 ?
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Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: VFX Rack version
2010-05-07 by jammie
no chance where are you going to get the eeprom image from no a kpc emulator board is the way to go as this is what powers the racks any way syntaur have some for sale about $60
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From: Claus
To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: VFX Rack version
Hi!
Or maybe a new EPROM for the KPC board in the VFX would be possible?
That would be really nice actually.
Best,
Claus
AudioSaucer, DK
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From: jammie <jammie.emma@...>
To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD <Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, May 7, 2010 9:08 pm
Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: VFX Rack version
get an kpc board from an eps16+ rack this is what is used when testing the mother board to see if the keyboard is functioning properly or the the mother board is functioning properly
it has the scanner rom and cpu and instead of the coil boards its switches are done direct from the midi input and will except poly pressure signal from other keyboards but you wont find many with poly pressure as it is an ensoniq product and all thow you can buy replacement keybeds from fatar they only have mono pressure aftertouch
----- Original Message -----
From: Claus
To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: VFX Rack version
Hi!
Regarding Rackmounting the VFX:
The Keybord electronics (the little board under the keybed), will need to be attached all the time.
The keys hemselves cannot be removed, without changing the capacitance on the PCB-coils.
The solution COULD be to measure this capacitance for a key (the coil), and then replacing the coil with
a capacitor of the same value. This should be possible somehow.
Another (more bold) solution would be to cut up the keybord, and mount it inside the Rack-case,
which would then need to be quite big(!).
I would say it isn't impossible to rackmount the VFX(SD et all), but since the keyboard is Polyphonic Aftertouch
capable, and very few new synthesizers are that, it would be crippling the whole machine.
Another solution would be to buffer the connection between the keybed PCB and the little computer seated under it,
keeping the key-computer in the rack, and making some kind of connection for the keyboard to that rackbox.
I've been thinking of doing that, but everytime I consider it, IF it failed and destroyed the VFX, I stay away from doing it.
Seems I love it too much, to dvelve into 'experiments in that direction. But it might happen someday, who knows.
Best, Claus
AudioSaucer, DK
-----Original Message-----
From: suppers_ready86 <wallsofsound@home.nl>
To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD <Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, May 6, 2010 11:41 am
Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: VFX Rack version
Well a design like the Yamaha TX7 could be possible. The large display can be in the sloped side.
In fact, that makes it more like a desktop version which is also fine for me (but heck, just the original case with keybed removed is also fine for me as is a simple casing). Desktop version could be mounted on a rackrail plate.
But having it work over only Midi without a keyboard seems more difficult I think.
Any ideas for some kind of workaround for the keyboard?
--- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "gonzinigonz" <gonzinigonz@...> wrote:
>
> So if i recall correctly there is a small board that deals with the keyboard.
> I guess if you still remove the actual keyboard from that board it will still throw the calibration error..
> Sure there would be some kind of work around.
> Sorting out the front panel so it would fit in a 1U or 2U space would still be a bit of hard work though.
>
>
>
> --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "suppers_ready86" <wallsofsound@> wrote:
> >
> > Well I disconnected everything (so the keybed and its circuit boards. Leaving the ribbon cable unused).
> >
> > The idea for the rack version is to work around the problems the keyboard circuitboard gives. If there is no keyboard and circuit to generate problems, then the VFX will work hassle free.
> >
> > However, the VFX seems to need a keyboard to actually work. Otherwise it will keep failing the keyboard callibration (with no keyboard attached) and won't load further.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "gonzinigonz" <gonzinigonz@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Maybe you could leave the keyboard controller connected but just disconnect the actual keyboard or is this what you did?
> > > If that worked then you would have to recreate the front panel which might be interesting to do...
> > > Nice idea though! I think you will find that thats all that happens with the Access range of synths having repaired a few.
> > >
> > > --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "suppers_ready86" <wallsofsound@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > To hijack this topic a bit, is it possible to create a rack version of the VFX? I have a VFX lying around here. Usual keyboard problems and still an unreliable instrument because of that darn keyboard.
> > > >
> > > > So I was thinking, is it possible to create a "rack" version of it? I already tried to see if it works over midi without the keyboard connected but that doesn't seem to work.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone know a workaround for this?
> > > >
> > > > --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "gonzinigonz" <gonzinigonz@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > So was there a rack version of the VFX or something close ever made?
> > > > > I thought there might of been but having looked maybe not..
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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2010-05-08 by todamoonmusic
I've thought about this myself and the ultimate way I came up was to sample the basic patch with no effects and build it back up from scratch in my Yamaha Motif XS6....It has 1 gig RAM so plenty of sample room....The sound shaping capabilities are amazing AND it has poly after touch AND 2 assignable buttons.....It does 8 elements so you could even add more from the Yamaha sound engine.....Unfortunately this would take way more time than I have right now but that's what runs through my mind from time to time.......moon --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
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> > eps16+ is the nearest rack version same engine same effects but no rom easy fix with a all sound rom sampled thats what i did with mine and to recreat the patches is easy with soundiver as all parameters are visual you just put your samples in the same order as they are in the vfx/sd1 and add the layers the same > > there are quite a few multi samples and a lot of single samples as in the transwaves which use singkle cycle additive waves in a 100 string > > but you can do more with the eps16+/asr10 as you can make your own transwaves and being able to layer 8 voices you can do wavesequencing with the looping envelopes > > all paremetrs are the same so its easy to dial in the data from lookig at the sound diver screen and adding the numbers to the same associated parameter > > the sqr is an synth on the cocept of the esq1 and sq80 with only 3 layers per patch but you loose the am and sink and analog filters > > but the sqr is a great sounding synth and has most of the sound set of the vfx with added transwaves that the vfx or ts10 dont have but also looses a few that the vfx has if you get the sqr+32 it has the same piano as the sd1 but it is only mono pressure and the effects are very limited and cant be added as the eps16+/asr10/ts10 > > most patches can be converted to the sqr but any vfx patches with more than 3 layers cant be made > > the ts10 can do most sd1 and vfx patches but apart from the transwaves as there are only 8 and 6 of the 8 are not even in the vfx they are vocal type transwaves as in arhh uhh ahh ooh eii > > the fizmo rack would be a nice synth but its not a vfx/sd1 its a totally different beast made on the otto4 synth chip from the asrx pro sampler drummachine and uses the esp chip of the asr10 > > the oto4 synth chip has more polyphony and has resonat filters > > the fizmo has all transwaves as its rom plus drum samples and so is very hard to emulate a vfx with it > > most of the transwaves are clipping type and not resonat type as they are in the vfx becuase of the resonat digital filters which the earlier ensoniq keyboards lacked unless you used the waveboy resonant disk which can rewrite the esp dsp eprom but only in the samplers and ts10 not sure if you can rewrite the effects chip in the sd1 ? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: gonzinigonz > To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 6:17 PM > Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] VFX Rack version > > > > So was there a rack version of the VFX or something close ever made? > I thought there might of been but having looked maybe not.. > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Internal Virus Database is out of date. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2846 - Release Date: 04/30/10 18:27:00 >
Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: VFX Rack version
2010-05-08 by jammie
problem thre is it has no transwave modulation so
its impossible to do those wavetable type sounds the only machines that can are
the
ts10/12 but the 12 only has mono
pressure
eps16+ which is the sampler version of the
vfx/sd1
asr10
asrx pro
these are the only machines that do transwave
modultion are are synth compatible in its features as they have identicle synth
params
and with sampling just use the all wave sample
which is the hole of the sound rom and use a sample editor to chop up the
samples the transwave 1,s are a sigle sample not multisampled and have the
exactly the same size wave form for every one of its wave forms find the size of
the first wave form in samples and set the loop point to that
thats how i learnt how to make transwaves becuase
they are additive single cycle waves with variation over time
you dont get loop markers but you can do your own
if ensoniq could loop them then you can the looping tools in ensoniq samplers
are excellent and i have still to find a pc or mac program that can match
it
what i do is get the sample editor and look
for a repeating pattern that looks identical to the last patern then make my
loop markers there to the wav file usually in a pc you will get a blip i then
transfer the sample to the sampler and use the sampler tools of the ensoniq
samplers with the crossfades settings and i always get a good loop
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----- Original Message -----From: todamoonmusicSent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 3:02 AMSubject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: VFX Rack versionI've thought about this myself and the ultimate way I came up was to sample the basic patch with no effects and build it back up from scratch in my Yamaha Motif XS6....It has 1 gig RAM so plenty of sample room....The sound shaping capabilities are amazing AND it has poly after touch AND 2 assignable buttons.....It does 8 elements so you could even add more from the Yamaha sound engine.....Unfortunately this would take way more time than I have right now but that's what runs through my mind from time to time.......moon
--- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" ...> wrote:
>
> eps16+ is the nearest rack version same engine same effects but no rom easy fix with a all sound rom sampled thats what i did with mine and to recreat the patches is easy with soundiver as all parameters are visual you just put your samples in the same order as they are in the vfx/sd1 and add the layers the same
>
> there are quite a few multi samples and a lot of single samples as in the transwaves which use singkle cycle additive waves in a 100 string
>
> but you can do more with the eps16+/asr10 as you can make your own transwaves and being able to layer 8 voices you can do wavesequencing with the looping envelopes
>
> all paremetrs are the same so its easy to dial in the data from lookig at the sound diver screen and adding the numbers to the same associated parameter
>
> the sqr is an synth on the cocept of the esq1 and sq80 with only 3 layers per patch but you loose the am and sink and analog filters
>
> but the sqr is a great sounding synth and has most of the sound set of the vfx with added transwaves that the vfx or ts10 dont have but also looses a few that the vfx has if you get the sqr+32 it has the same piano as the sd1 but it is only mono pressure and the effects are very limited and cant be added as the eps16+/asr10/ts10
>
> most patches can be converted to the sqr but any vfx patches with more than 3 layers cant be made
>
> the ts10 can do most sd1 and vfx patches but apart from the transwaves as there are only 8 and 6 of the 8 are not even in the vfx they are vocal type transwaves as in arhh uhh ahh ooh eii
>
> the fizmo rack would be a nice synth but its not a vfx/sd1 its a totally different beast made on the otto4 synth chip from the asrx pro sampler drummachine and uses the esp chip of the asr10
>
> the oto4 synth chip has more polyphony and has resonat filters
>
> the fizmo has all transwaves as its rom plus drum samples and so is very hard to emulate a vfx with it
>
> most of the transwaves are clipping type and not resonat type as they are in the vfx becuase of the resonat digital filters which the earlier ensoniq keyboards lacked unless you used the waveboy resonant disk which can rewrite the esp dsp eprom but only in the samplers and ts10 not sure if you can rewrite the effects chip in the sd1 ?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: gonzinigonz
> To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 6:17 PM
> Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] VFX Rack version
>
>
>
> So was there a rack version of the VFX or something close ever made?
> I thought there might of been but having looked maybe not..
>
>
>
>
>
>
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