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2009-07-02 by tonylight222

Hi all 

I'm gonna to sell my p3 sequencer.
I'm not using it so much and it's a shame.
It's a kit build cpu number 2017.
I've replace the oled display with a lcd one.
Running v.4 software no memory expansion.

I'm located in italy and for more infos and photos you can contact me at: 

tonylight222@gmail.com

thankyou

Antonio

Today's Indulgence

2009-07-04 by Softroom

Heyup gang, another Youtube P3 doodle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ1D5rqvVLY


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RE: [analogue-sequencer] Today's Indulgence

2009-07-04 by Colin Fraser

I've uploaded some video too...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peCibFsZFbE
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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Today's Indulgence

2009-07-04 by Richard Scott

Looks very impressive Colin

very!

Richard

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Today's Indulgence

2009-07-04 by Softroom

Colin Fraser wrote:
> I've uploaded some video too...
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peCibFsZFbE

LOL! I consider myself upstaged. :)

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RE: [analogue-sequencer] Today's Indulgence

2009-07-04 by Ditton33

Well, it's hard not to get excited about that sneak-peek of the Cirklon.

But your vid is also awesome. Musically, and visually.

That blissed-out change at the 4 min mark is sublime.

You need to package all these together and release an album.

Or is that a bit "old hat" now? :)
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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Today's Indulgence

2009-07-04 by Softroom

Ditton33 wrote:
> Well, it's hard not to get excited about that sneak-peek of the Cirklon.

You said it bro.

> But your vid is also awesome. Musically, and visually.

Aw, ta.

> That blissed-out change at the 4 min mark is sublime.

I sorta play them different each time, hard to do one I'd call 
"definitive", except in performance I guess.

> You need to package all these together and release an album.
> 
> Or is that a bit "old hat" now? :)

It's a damn good question. Not sure. The pieces need proper arrangement, 
the kind of studio work I dunno if I can be bothered with anymore.
Thoughts: could do with a collaborator with Ableton, time and patience 
as well as the imagination to mercilesly hack this stuff into something 
half-decent.

Inertia is a powerful force but it has its drawbacks. :)

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RE: [analogue-sequencer] Today's Indulgence

2009-07-04 by Tom Adam

Aha, This looks very cool!
Is this the prototype? (got any spares?;-)
It looks small, I expected it bigger. Those rotary encoders look very
professional.  Maybe you could post a high res pic? 
Do you have a current "function' list?
And most important, when will it be available and at what price. (I'll start
saving now!)
Keep up the good work.
Cheers,
ToAd
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I've uploaded some video too...
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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Today's Indulgence

2009-07-04 by Richard Scott

I'd be interested to know something about the proposed CV functionality?

analog drum triggers and normal CV outs as standard? how many I wonder?

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RE: [analogue-sequencer] Today's Indulgence

2009-07-05 by Colin Fraser

> Is this the prototype? (got any spares?;-)

It is a prototype.
The step board is likely to be final, but I may decide to alter the layout
or number of keys on either side of the display.

> It looks small, I expected it bigger.

Guid gear gangs in sma bulk.

> Those rotary encoders look very
> professional.  Maybe you could post a high res pic?

I'll post some more once the case is complete.
It doesn't even have its tempo and A/B control knobs yet, or labels on the
upper UI area.
The step knobs are indeed encoders, 30-indent ALPS units, with centre push.

> Do you have a current "function' list?

At the moment, it is running a ported version of P3 OS v4.5, which is
essentially the same as v4.0, but with a free pool of patterns for each bank
instead of a fixed relationship between patterns and part/track locations.
The cirklon build also has a fundamental change in the way the tempo is
generated, which greatly increases the usable range, makes multiple
simultaneous tempi easy to do, and allows events to be scheduled based on
tempo or linear time references, or both. e.g. track offset in steps of ms,
step repeats in divisions of tempo, or units of time.
There is quite a list of further changes and additions still to be made.
Functions may come and go based on user testing, so I'd rather not give an
exhaustive list yet.
Hopefully it'll be a bit further on by the time I take it to Cambridge for
Synth DIY.

The main hardware platform is certainly final.
It's running on a ST Cortex-M3 processor by ARM, a 72MHz 32-bit
microcontroller, with multiple hardware UARTS (4 of which are usable), USB,
SD-card support, and all sorts of other nice things that make programming
for the MCS81 seem like a bad dream.

> And most important, when will it be available and at what 
> price. (I'll start
> saving now!)

At the moment I'm considering whether to do a small pre-production run, for
adventurous beta testing types.
The timescale to availability depends on when I decide I'm happy enough with
the OS to be able to sell production units as 'complete'.
OS testing and debugging goes a lot more quickly with other people
stress-testing things.
I don't want to be selling them on the basis of promised features, so a
pre-production run would be sold on the understanding that the OS wont be
feature complete, and there may be a fair amount of debugging to be done.
But of course, as a beta tester, you'd have a greater say in how the final
product might turn out.

Best regards,
Colin Fraser
Sequentix Music Systems Ltd
http://www.sequentix.com

RE: [analogue-sequencer] Today's Indulgence

2009-07-05 by Colin Fraser

> I'd be interested to know something about the proposed CV 
> functionality?
> 
> analog drum triggers and normal CV outs as standard? how many 
> I wonder?

At the moment, nothing is final except that there will be some native CV
output.
The CPU itself has a built-in 12 bit DAC, so it would be daft not to at
least have 2 channels of CV/gate.

A couple of years ago, I did some analysis on MIDI latency in relation to
triggering percussion sounds.
Cirklon will have 16 tracks, and the means to create dedicated percussion
patterns, x0x-style.
The outcome of that testing was that I decided I need at least 16 to 24
channels of accent/trigger outputs to drive percussion sounds where every
channel can be updated in less than 2ms and preferrably less than 1ms.
Internal generation of those triggers seems like a much better idea than
trying to arrange some way of sending data to a MIDI to CV convertor in
advance, to be clocked out at the right instant.
This sort of thing will most likely be available as an optional card. Not
everyone wants to stump up for the necessary extra circuitry.

Best regards,
Colin Fraser
Sequentix Music Systems Ltd
http://www.sequentix.com

Re: Today's Indulgence

2009-07-05 by Jim Combs

--- In analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com, Softroom <softroom@...> wrote:
> Heyup gang, another Youtube P3 doodle:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ1D5rqvVLY

One of my favorites so far! I especially like the mid part when you put the frosting on the cake using the V-Synth. Loverly!

I got a last minute gig for next Sunday playing at the wrap up party for MGFest09 (Motion Graphics Fest http://mgfest.com/09/Atlanta/ ) here in Atlanta. I'll be backed up by the VJ team Integrated Visions ( http://www.integratedvisions.net/ ). It's a bit longer set leading me to more, shorter pieces that will include a fair share of toe-tap-able tempos.

So I'm doing alot of "what would Paul do?" to inspire me here in the studio as I prep for the gig.

Thanks!

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Re: Today's Indulgence

2009-07-05 by Jim Combs

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> I've uploaded some video too...
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peCibFsZFbE

Sweet!

-Jim

Re: [analogue-sequencer] Re: Today's Indulgence

2009-07-05 by Paul Nagle

From: Jim Combs <jwcombs@bellsouth.net>

>One of my favorites so far! I especially like the mid part when you put the frosting on the cake using the V-Synth. Loverly!


Cheers. Not sure it's a definitive version but each time I play this one it's substantially different. 

>I got a last minute gig for next Sunday playing at the wrap up party for MGFest09 (Motion Graphics Fest http://mgfest.com/09/Atlanta/ ) here in Atlanta. I'll be >backed up by the VJ team Integrated Visions ( http://www.integratedvisions.net/ ). It's a bit longer set leading me to more, shorter pieces that will include a fair >share of toe-tap-able tempos.


That looks amazingly good fun, good luck!!

>So I'm doing alot of "what would Paul do?" to inspire me here in the studio as I prep for the gig.

Hey man, if you know that answer to that one, maybe I should give you a call. :)

Paul

Re: Today's Indulgence

2009-07-14 by em_dkj

> Hopefully it'll be a bit further on by the time I take it to Cambridge for
> Synth DIY.



What time do the doors open on Saturday?

Dave

Re: [analogue-sequencer] Re: Today's Indulgence

2009-07-15 by Andy Wilson

Hi Dave,

Probably from about 10:00 onwards. depends whenever Neil Johnson 
unlocks the door.

If you arrive earlier then check out the breakfast room in J8 of 
Robinson College. You'll find some bleary-eyed Synth geeks munching 
tea & toast.

See you there.

Andy

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> > Hopefully it'll be a bit further on by the time I take it to
> Cambridge for
> > Synth DIY.
> 
> 
> 
> What time do the doors open on Saturday?
> 
> Dave
> 
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Re: Today's Indulgence

2009-08-18 by ch.³l

hi Colin, 
I only just saw the Cirklon prototype vid.. nice work!

In one of your posts in this thread you mention a P3 OSv4.5, which leads me to ask (again) if and when a finalised, non-beta version of the v4 OS for the P3 will be available..
grtz, Chiel

RE: [analogue-sequencer] Re: Today's Indulgence

2009-08-19 by Colin Fraser

> In one of your posts in this thread you mention a P3 OSv4.5, 
> which leads me to ask (again) if and when a finalised, 
> non-beta version of the v4 OS for the P3 will be available..

We could just call the current v4.0 a release version.
Does that help ? ;-)
There is a 4.5 beta.
It's conceptually simpler than 4.0 in not having ghosting, but having only
numbers for a pool of patterns for all tracks can make it difficult when you
have lots of patterns. This also applies to the current build of Cirklon,
since it is largely based on v4.5 of P3.
Some of the things I've added or changed in Cirklon I've then added back to
P3.
Cirkon will have text names for patterns, but P3 doesn't have the mental
capacity for that.
I'm going to filter pattern selection based on the track a pattern was
created for in Cirklon, and roll that back into P3 v4.5
At which point I'll post it up.
v4.5 is more likely to become a release build than v4.0

Best regards,
Colin Fraser
Sequentix Music Systems Ltd
http://www.sequentix.com

MAQ 16/ 3

2009-08-22 by Hans Greuber

Hi Folks


I´m back for vacation to my studio, I got fixed my sequencer.


One Question, Would you keep the MAQ 16 / 3 if you got the Colin´s one?


It´s been like 7 years or so since I don´t get it on! ( Well, I´ve been out from music even more..)


I only enjoy playing Mini, ms 20, vcs3 and the TB


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MAQ 16/ 3

2009-08-22 by Hans Greuber

Hi Folks


I´m back for vacation to my studio, I got fixed my sequencer.


One Question, Would you keep the MAQ 16 / 3 if you got the Colin´s one?


It´s been like 7 years or so since I don´t get it on! ( Well, I´ve been out from music even more..)


I only enjoy playing Mini, ms 20, vcs3 and the TB


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NEW P3 User

2009-08-22 by Liese, HaJo

Hello friends,

 

recently I bought a P3 sequencer SNO 1066. I am happy to have one. 

 

Now I have the :

-          MAM SQ 16

-          Schrittmacher

-          P3

I use to have a MAQ 16 too, but this MAQ was way to complicate to handele
live

 

Greetings from Düsseldorf

 

 

Hajo

 

 

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Hi Folks

I´m back for vacation to my studio, I got fixed my sequencer.

One Question, Would you keep the MAQ 16 / 3 if you got the Colin´s one?

It´s been like 7 years or so since I don´t get it on! ( Well, I´ve been out
from music even more..)

I only enjoy playing Mini, ms 20, vcs3 and the TB

Hans










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RE: [analogue-sequencer] NEW P3 User

2009-08-22 by Hans Greuber

Hi
Welcome
What does the MAM  the P3 doesn´t have?
I´m thinking about get rid of the MAQ too.
Hans
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                  Hello friends,



recently I bought a P3 sequencer SNO 1066. I am happy to have one. 



Now I have the :



-          MAM SQ 16



-          Schrittmacher



-          P3



I use to have a MAQ 16 too, but this MAQ was way to complicate to handele

live



Greetings from Düsseldorf



Hajo



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Hi Folks



I´m back for vacation to my studio, I got fixed my sequencer.



One Question, Would you keep the MAQ 16 / 3 if you got the Colin´s one?



It´s been like 7 years or so since I don´t get it on! ( Well, I´ve been out

from music even more..)



I only enjoy playing Mini, ms 20, vcs3 and the TB



Hans



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AW: [analogue-sequencer] NEW P3 User

2009-08-22 by Liese, HaJo

Hello Hans,

 

the MAM SQ16 is quit difficult to use, I recommend to have the manual in
reach!

MAM, stopped producing the SQ16, because it was way to much work fort he MAM
hotline to answer all questions (so they told me)

 

I use the MAM for drum programming (like you could programm the old EKO
Rthim Computer from Italy (User: JMJ and ASHRA).

 

For me the MAQ 16 was very nice, but if you want to do some special events
like SKIP / REST it was not so easy as with the Schrittmacher.

 

I bought the P3 especially fort he „CHRIS FRANKE Thrill“, aou can not do
this with the SHRITTMACHER.

 

Cheers 

Hajo

 

 

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Hi
Welcome
What does the MAM the P3 doesn´t have?
I´m thinking about get rid of the MAQ too.
Hans
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Subject: [analogue-sequencer] NEW P3 User

Hello friends,

recently I bought a P3 sequencer SNO 1066. I am happy to have one. 

Now I have the :

- MAM SQ 16

- Schrittmacher

- P3

I use to have a MAQ 16 too, but this MAQ was way to complicate to handele

live

Greetings from Düsseldorf

Hajo

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Hi Folks

I´m back for vacation to my studio, I got fixed my sequencer.

One Question, Would you keep the MAQ 16 / 3 if you got the Colin´s one?

It´s been like 7 years or so since I don´t get it on! ( Well, I´ve been out

from music even more..)

I only enjoy playing Mini, ms 20, vcs3 and the TB

Hans

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] MAQ 16/ 3

2009-08-22 by Softroom

Hans Greuber wrote:

> One Question, Would you keep the MAQ 16 / 3 if you got the Colin´s one?

Why should it matter what I would do? Tell me your life and I'll issue 
complete instructions, starting with "buy a more eco-friendly car"... :)

Seriously, who can answer this question better than you yourself?

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RE: [analogue-sequencer] NEW P3 User

2009-08-22 by Ditton33

> >-----Original Message-----
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> >Sent: 22 August 2009 21:34
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> >Subject: AW: [analogue-sequencer] NEW P3 User
> >
> >Hello Hans,
> > 
> >
> >I bought the P3 especially fort he "CHRIS FRANKE Thrill", 
> >aou can not do this with the SHRITTMACHER.
> >


Chris Franke trill. :) Though thrill is good. :D

Also known as ratchet I believe.

Though did Chris Franke ratchet before the note, or after?

RE: [analogue-sequencer] NEW P3 User

2009-08-22 by Colin Fraser

> Chris Franke trill. :) Though thrill is good. :D
> 
> Also known as ratchet I believe.
> 
> Though did Chris Franke ratchet before the note, or after? 

What would be an example of a TD recording from which the answer could be
deduced ?
Or is it a purely philosophical question ?
Before one note is always after another.

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RE: [analogue-sequencer] MAQ 16/ 3

2009-08-23 by Hans Greuber

I  Like to know other people thoughts, that´s simple. Or perhaps I am not using them properly and can learn something.
F*ck with leftologist man, they are all a bunch of envious fascists that don´t let me drive  or  life with freedom.
I did, I drive now a more eco friendly, 8 liters less in urban cycle. Still a V8,  a Jag XKR Cabrio
Hans

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Re: MAQ 16/ 3

2009-08-24 by ferrograph632

>>One Question, Would you keep the MAQ 16 / 3 if you got the Colin´s one?<<

I have two p3s & three maqs, amongst other things. it's like having different sorts of pans in y'r kitchen, or a blender aswell as a hand-held food mixer.

the maq is better at some things, but absolutely crap at others. together (e.g. using the p3 to FTS the maq's output) they are great.

I can't use a midi controller on the p3 to change the length of three patterns at the same instant, while someone else changes the notes; sure, I can probably program the p3 to do this stuff on it's own, but I'm in a band & we do things collaboratively.

d.

Re: trill (was NEW P3 User)

2009-08-24 by ferrograph632

>>Though did Chris Franke ratchet before the note, or after? 
What would be an example of a TD recording from which the answer could be deduced ?
Or is it a purely philosophical question ?<<

oo.... I thought I'd responded to this but it got lost in cyberspace...

"stratosfear", the first track. I reckon it'd be a bit of an arse but perfectly possible to set up on a moog with enough modules. you'd use the gate output from the preceding stage of the 960 to one-shot another sequencer running at a higher tempo, & sum the triggers. 

a similar effect can be achieved on the maq, incidentally, but it's even more of an arse to set up. the octopus can do it in strum mode, but again it relies on the strum being attached to the preceding note, which is less flexible.

anyway, the trill is clearly anticipating the beat. it can't be done the same way on a p3 because even though you can add repeats to the note before with the right pitch, there's one too many.
I can try to explain with a little four note sequence:

1 (* * *) 1 (* 3 4) 1 (* * *) 1 (* * *)

is what you're trying to achieve. the trill is before the third "1".

with the p3, you can either do:

1 (* * *) 1 (2 3 4) 1 (* * *) 1 (* * *)

or 

1 (* * *) 1 (* * *) 1 (2 3 *) 1 (* * *)

note that the trill is either too "busy" or comes after the "1".

d.

RE: [analogue-sequencer] Re: trill (was NEW P3 User)

2009-08-24 by Colin Fraser

> anyway, the trill is clearly anticipating the beat. it can't 
> be done the same way on a p3 because even though you can add 
> repeats to the note before with the right pitch, there's one too many.
> I can try to explain with a little four note sequence:
> 
> 1 (* * *) 1 (* 3 4) 1 (* * *) 1 (* * *)
> 
> is what you're trying to achieve. the trill is before the third "1".
> 
> with the p3, you can either do:
> 
> 1 (* * *) 1 (2 3 4) 1 (* * *) 1 (* * *)
> 
> or 
> 
> 1 (* * *) 1 (* * *) 1 (2 3 *) 1 (* * *)
> 
> note that the trill is either too "busy" or comes after the "1".

I see.
Of course you could just use a tbase of 64, with a 4 bar pattern if needed,
and put the trill notes in the right places for the example sequence.

Best regards,
Colin Fraser
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Re: trill (was NEW P3 User)

2009-08-24 by ferrograph632

>>Of course you could just use a tbase of 64, with a 4 bar pattern if needed, and put the trill notes in the right places....<<

yes.... but.... then I'd have to program the whole thing ahead of time.
I used to do this very laboriously with my mmt8, having first recorded a pattern using the assign-mode of the arpeggiator in my beloved (& now defunct) prophet 2000 keyboard.
we persuaded the maq to do it the first day we had the thing ("scud", on the "diabolica" album. I think.) but it was so clunky to set up.

what I like about the repeat-aux on the p3 is that I can stab a pattern in quickly from the keyboard, while the sequencer is running & the tracks is audible (i.e. in front of people or during a recording), then arm the aux, try it in a few different places, switch it on & off a few times... vary the velocity or pitch too.... & anyway, no-one's ever mentioned that the p3 "post-trill" is in any way less effective than the TD version. did you manage to dig out the aforementioned's 1978 opus then?

d.

RE: [analogue-sequencer] Re: trill (was NEW P3 User)

2009-08-24 by Colin Fraser

> yes.... but.... then I'd have to program the whole thing 
> ahead of time.

Good point...
You'll be please to hear that Cirklon will have a much more extensive step
repeat functionality, including pre-repeats.

> what I like about the repeat-aux on the p3 is that I can stab 
> a pattern in quickly from the keyboard, while the sequencer 
> is running & the tracks is audible (i.e. in front of people 
> or during a recording), then arm the aux, try it in a few 
> different places, switch it on & off a few times... vary the 
> velocity or pitch too.... & anyway, no-one's ever mentioned 
> that the p3 "post-trill" is in any way less effective than 
> the TD version. did you manage to dig out the 
> aforementioned's 1978 opus then?

I'll have a listen to it again tonight.
I've had it on vinyl since I were a lad, but it had never occurred to me
before to wonder whether those repeats were before or after.

BTW because of the new way timebases are calculated, Cirklon will do be able
to do all sorts of negative time stuff, so pre-repeats will be a no-brainer.

Best regards,
Colin Fraser
Sequentix Music Systems Ltd
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Factory builkt P3 for sale

2009-10-20 by Richard Scott

Hi

I'm using CV and really not using midi sequencers anymore so this has 
been sitting unused for a long time.

Colin has just replaced the display with a new blue one (1 minutes use!)

Its factory built with factory fitted memX expansion, and blue/magenta 
leds as an extra, these are a little brighter and easier to see onstage 
- especially if you, like me, are a little red green colour blind. 
Sequentix box, wooden and metal side panels and a v3 manual.

I am UK based (manchester) but will post anywhere. Offers offlist please 
to richard AT chorlton.com.

It in excellent, near mint, condition.

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Re: Factory builkt P3 for sale

2009-10-20 by duncan

>>I am UK based (manchester) but will post anywhere. Offers offlist please to richard AT chorlton.com.<<

this IS getting weird..... another p3 in chorlton? :-)

I make that 4 now. colin, did you know about this?

d.

Re: Factory builkt P3 for sale

2009-10-20 by seanzoega

Just interested what analogue sequencers are you using...I like the Roland 104, just wondering what you use as I find the combimation of a 104 and Sequentix pretty much unbeatable...though I havent played with some of the more esoteric stuff....there is a system 700 sequencer on Vemia next month though

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> 
> Its factory built with factory fitted memX expansion, and blue/magenta 
> leds as an extra, these are a little brighter and easier to see onstage 
> - especially if you, like me, are a little red green colour blind. 
> Sequentix box, wooden and metal side panels and a v3 manual.
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RE: [analogue-sequencer] Re: Factory builkt P3 for sale

2009-10-20 by Colin f

> this IS getting weird..... another p3 in chorlton? :-)
> 
> I make that 4 now. colin, did you know about this?

I knew there were more than one.
You northern lads seem to like your step sequencers.

Cheers,
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RE: [analogue-sequencer] Re: Factory builkt P3 for sale

2009-10-20 by Ditton33

Another one here in Manchester.

Perhaps it's the P3 capital of the world!? :)

Add Paul's 3 (?) in Preston and it's almost a viral attack. :D 
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> >> I make that 4 now. colin, did you know about this?
> >
> >I knew there were more than one.
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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Re: Factory builkt P3 for sale

2009-10-20 by Jesse

This bloke has one more P3 in Manchester here...

Manchester, New Hampshire you silicon berks!
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    Another one here in Manchester.

  Perhaps it's the P3 capital of the world!? :)

  Add Paul's 3 (?) in Preston and it's almost a viral attack. :D 

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glamour

2010-02-18 by Richard Scott

Not sure if anyone posted this yet:

http://www.thebeast.co.uk/cnc/cirklon.jpg

tasty!

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RE: [analogue-sequencer] glamour

2010-02-18 by Colin Fraser

You've maybe not seen this either:
http://www.sequentix.com/cirklon.htm

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] glamour

2010-02-18 by Richard Scott

Slick, even if its just a mock up it looks very good - I wonder, did you 
think about those nice serge-style davis knobs? - they would stand a bit 
higher than the soft-grip ones and look cooler too.

As an interface it looks so much nicer than the P3, I'm hoping the 
workflow will be smoother too with not so many multifunction knobs and 
menu layers.

I sold my P3 and MPC4k and don't have a sequencer at all now - I'm more 
than ready for this!

Richard

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> You've maybe not seen this either:
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RE: [analogue-sequencer] glamour

2010-02-19 by Ditton33

Perhaps an optional add-on with lots more knobs and flashing lights to allow
concurrent direct access to multiple track manipulation? :) 

Perhaps they can be daisy-chained too? :D
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> >Nice! What's the I/O Expansion port for?
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> >> You've maybe not seen this either:
> >> http://www.sequentix.com/cirklon.htm
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Re: [analogue-sequencer] glamour

2010-02-19 by Rory Dow

Nice! What's the I/O Expansion port for?

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RE: [analogue-sequencer] glamour

2010-02-19 by Colin f

> Nice! What's the I/O Expansion port for?

The expansion port will provide either 2 pairs of CV and gate outputs, or a
9-pin D socket carrying a high-speed serial line (most likely SPI on LVDS
drivers).
The serial port will drive a multi-channel CV output (and possibly input)
box.
By a lucky coincidence, the CPU I'm using has a dual 12-bit DAC on board,
which shares the same set of pins as one of the SPI ports, so the same
header can be software configured for either I/O job.

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] glamour

2010-02-19 by Richard Scott

CV input??

Very interesting. The reason I stopped using the P3 was because I moved 
from midi to CV as the centre of my system.

I would certainly be interested in an option that gave multiple (i.e. 
more than two) CV gates and outputs and to have a couple of CV inputs 
too would be very sweet indeed. I could interact with my modular and my 
Andromeda at the same time and have the Cirklon at the centre of my 
studio... hmmm

Richard

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> 
> 
> 
>  > Nice! What's the I/O Expansion port for?
> 
> The expansion port will provide either 2 pairs of CV and gate outputs, or a
> 9-pin D socket carrying a high-speed serial line (most likely SPI on LVDS
> drivers).
> The serial port will drive a multi-channel CV output (and possibly input)
> box.
> By a lucky coincidence, the CPU I'm using has a dual 12-bit DAC on board,
> which shares the same set of pins as one of the SPI ports, so the same
> header can be software configured for either I/O job.
> 
> Best regards,
> Colin Fraser
> Sequentix Music Systems Ltd
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Re: glamour

2010-02-19 by Steven C

If there's s list forming...

I hope I'm on it Colin

:)

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cirklon

2010-02-19 by Steven C

VERY nice!

http://www.sequentix.com/cirklon.htm

I can imagine a HUGE demand starting... for the Cirklon... is there a
list forming to purchase?

Steve




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Re: glamour

2010-02-20 by THX1742

Arrrggghhhhh. That looks soooooo tasty. Sod's law that I should finally, after all sorts of delays, be nearing completion of my P3 build to have this come out, which of course is now top of the "wants" list. 

I apologise for the selfish nature of this post ;)

Peter.

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