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Gaming the System

2008-08-01 by Niall Munnelly

I think jamming on the Mono and MD would be loads more fun
if we had the means to rotate entire patterns, rather than
single tracks at a time.  Shifting your beat forward or
backward an eighth or quarter note against a Mono pattern
can extend the lifespan of your jam or yield some unexpected
musical ideas.  I'm not sure what the best keystroke
combination would be, and it seems that we're running out of
possibilities on that end, but maybe someone here has an
idea.

Anyway, I'm sure I'm not the only Elektron user who keeps a
list of bugs and feature requests, sent periodically to
Elektron.  If you like this idea, I'd be grateful for the
addition to your list.

Cheers.

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Yours,
Niall.
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Re: [elektron] Gaming the System

2008-08-01 by Patrik Rydberg

Yes, this is a feature I've been missing quite a bit. Rather often i  
create a rhythm, just to realise that the "natural one" is actually on  
beat two or something, then it would be REEEALLY handy.

Please... =)

\Patrik
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On 1 aug 2008, at 15.19, Niall Munnelly wrote:

> I think jamming on the Mono and MD would be loads more fun
> if we had the means to rotate entire patterns, rather than
> single tracks at a time. Shifting your beat forward or
> backward an eighth or quarter note against a Mono pattern
> can extend the lifespan of your jam or yield some unexpected
> musical ideas. I'm not sure what the best keystroke
> combination would be, and it seems that we're running out of
> possibilities on that end, but maybe someone here has an
> idea.
>
> Anyway, I'm sure I'm not the only Elektron user who keeps a
> list of bugs and feature requests, sent periodically to
> Elektron. If you like this idea, I'd be grateful for the
> addition to your list.
>
> Cheers.
>
> -- 
> Yours,
> Niall.
> .. . . . . . . . . .
> Aleph Null. A Simple Insinuation Around Silence.
> http://aleph-null.net
> .. .. gpg public key - http://aleph-null.net/niall.gpg .. ..
>
>

Re: [elektron] Gaming the System

2008-08-01 by Tarekith

Yes, that would definitely be nice, I was thinking this too the other day.


> On 1 aug 2008, at 15.19, Niall Munnelly wrote:
>
>> I think jamming on the Mono and MD would be loads more fun
>> if we had the means to rotate entire patterns, rather than
>> single tracks at a time. Shifting your beat forward or
>> backward an eighth or quarter note against a Mono pattern
>> can extend the lifespan of your jam or yield some unexpected
>> musical ideas. I'm not sure what the best keystroke
>> combination would be, and it seems that we're running out of
>> possibilities on that end, but maybe someone here has an
>> idea.
>>
>> Anyway, I'm sure I'm not the only Elektron user who keeps a
>> list of bugs and feature requests, sent periodically to
>> Elektron. If you like this idea, I'd be grateful for the
>> addition to your list.
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>> --
>> Yours,
>> Niall.
>
-- 
Tarekith
http://tarekith.com

Re: [elektron] Gaming the System

2008-08-01 by Nick Breinich

The ability to swap tracks would also be extremely helpful to me as a i prepare this live set.

-nick
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Subject: Re: [elektron] Gaming the System


Yes, that would definitely be nice, I was thinking this too the other day.

> On 1 aug 2008, at 15.19, Niall Munnelly wrote:
>
>> I think jamming on the Mono and MD would be loads more fun
>> if we had the means to rotate entire patterns, rather than
>> single tracks at a time. Shifting your beat forward or
>> backward an eighth or quarter note against a Mono pattern
>> can extend the lifespan of your jam or yield some unexpected
>> musical ideas. I'm not sure what the best keystroke
>> combination would be, and it seems that we're running out of
>> possibilities on that end, but maybe someone here has an
>> idea.
>>
>> Anyway, I'm sure I'm not the only Elektron user who keeps a
>> list of bugs and feature requests, sent periodically to
>> Elektron. If you like this idea, I'd be grateful for the
>> addition to your list.
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>> --
>> Yours,
>> Niall.
>
-- 
Tarekith
http://tarekith. com
    


      

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Re: [elektron] Gaming the System

2008-08-09 by Niall Munnelly

On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 11:07:16AM -0700, Nick Breinich wrote:
> The ability to swap tracks would also be extremely helpful to me as a i prepare this live set.

Woudl you please elaborate?  I don't know what you mean.

-- 
Yours,
Niall.
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Re: [elektron] Gaming the System

2008-08-09 by Nick Breinich

Sorry I should clarify that.  Say i have a pattern with a trxb2 on track1 (BD) and a e12-hh on track 2 (SD) with each track's respective notes and locks.  i would like to have a swap tracks function that allowed me to move the e12-hh machine, it's notes, and it's locks to track 1 while the trxb2, it's notes, and locks would be moved to track 2.

Since i tend to create the patterns very organically and without respect to the organization offered by elektron (BD on 1, SD on 2, HT on 3 and so on), I would like to ability to shuffle all tracks around without needing to have an empty track to act as a temporary storage.  dig?

-nick
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Sent: Saturday, August 9, 2008 1:40:01 PM
Subject: Re: [elektron] Gaming the System


On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 11:07:16AM -0700, Nick Breinich wrote:
> The ability to swap tracks would also be extremely helpful to me as a i prepare this live set.

Woudl you please elaborate?  I don't know what you mean.

-- 
Yours,
Niall.
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RAM to ROM on OS 1.3

2008-08-10 by Jeremy Hart

I've finally gotten around to figuring out the sample function on my machinedrum UW.  It's pretty cool, but it seems my OS 1.30 won't allow me to save it to a RAM slot.  I don't have a USB to MIDI dongle whatever either, so how do I update my OS?  Is there a work-around in the meantime to let me save my samples.  There's no way to preserve the factory samples once you start saving your own?

I'll probably be using the slots for mangled loops but there are a few good hits in there.

Thanks much.



      

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Machinedrum SPS-1UW RAM to ROM on OS 1.3

2008-08-12 by Jeremy Hart

I didn't get any replies to my email account.  Did anybody reply?  I meant to say I cannot move my samples from RAM to ROM.  My sample manager in 1.3 doesn't seem to have an import or save as function.

There are USB to MIDI dongles right?  How much would one set me back.  I think I really need to upgrade the OS on this beast.

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            I've finally gotten around to figuring out the sample function on my machinedrum UW.  It's pretty cool, but it seems my OS 1.30 won't allow me to save it to a RAM slot.  I don't have a USB to MIDI dongle whatever either, so how do I update my OS?  Is there a work-around in the meantime to let me save my samples.  There's no way to preserve the factory samples once you start saving your own?



I'll probably be using the slots for mangled loops but there are a few good hits in there.



Thanks much.



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Re: [elektron] Machinedrum SPS-1UW RAM to ROM on OS 1.3

2008-08-12 by Nick Breinich

Download the latest OS off the Elektron site and read the notes.  This is not even possible in 1.3.  You need 1.50F.
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Subject: [elektron] Machinedrum SPS-1UW RAM to ROM on OS 1.3


I didn't get any replies to my email account.  Did anybody reply?  I meant to say I cannot move my samples from RAM to ROM.  My sample manager in 1.3 doesn't seem to have an import or save as function.

There are USB to MIDI dongles right?  How much would one set me back.  I think I really need to upgrade the OS on this beast.

--- On Sun, 8/10/08, Jeremy Hart <jchart01@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: Jeremy Hart <jchart01@yahoo. com>
Subject: [elektron] RAM to ROM on OS 1.3
To: elektron-users@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 5:46 PM

I've finally gotten around to figuring out the sample function on my machinedrum UW.  It's pretty cool, but it seems my OS 1.30 won't allow me to save it to a RAM slot.  I don't have a USB to MIDI dongle whatever either, so how do I update my OS?  Is there a work-around in the meantime to let me save my samples.  There's no way to preserve the factory samples once you start saving your own?

I'll probably be using the slots for mangled loops but there are a few good hits in there.

Thanks much.

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Re: [elektron] Machinedrum SPS-1UW RAM to ROM on OS 1.3

2008-08-12 by Patrik Rydberg

I think you need os 1.5 to move samples from ram to rom, so, well, yes, 
getting a midi interface is a good idea... =)

Also, much more practical to use a computer for manipulating/trimming 
samples before uploading to the MD via SysEx.

/Patrik

Jeremy Hart wrote:
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> think I really need to upgrade the OS on this beast.
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> From: Jeremy Hart <jchart01@... <mailto:jchart01%40yahoo.com>>
> Subject: [elektron] RAM to ROM on OS 1.3
> To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com <mailto:elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 5:46 PM
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> either, so how do I update my OS?  Is there a work-around in the 
> meantime to let me save my samples.  There's no way to preserve the 
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Re: [elektron] Machinedrum SPS-1UW RAM to ROM on OS 1.3

2008-08-12 by michael e

Jeremy Hart skrev:
> I didn't get any replies to my email account.  Did anybody reply?  I meant to say I cannot move my samples from RAM to ROM.  My sample manager in 1.3 doesn't seem to have an import or save as function.
I guess you need to to update your OS. In 1.50 the RAM machines are 
listed in the sample manager. To move a sample from a RAM machine to ROM 
slot, simply use copy/paste.

 > There are USB to MIDI dongles right?  How much would one set me back.

200-300 SEK, I think..

Re: [elektron] Machinedrum SPS-1UW RAM to ROM on OS 1.3

2008-08-13 by Jeremy Hart

would this adapter work?

http://www.virtuavia.eu/shop/index.php?target=products&product_id=29883&sl=EN

i don't want to spend a hundreds of dollars on the Elektron Hypermidi interface.



      

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Re: [elektron] Machinedrum SPS-1UW RAM to ROM on OS 1.3

2008-08-13 by Patrik Rydberg

Guess so. Any midi interface should do the trick.

/Patrik

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upgrading my OS is... difficult

2008-08-28 by Jeremy Hart

So, I've been trying to upgrade my OS for the last two hours.  I'm not the most MIDI savvy, do I need an IN and OUT to upgrade my OS?  As it is now the USB to MIDI adapter I ordered doesn't work, it's recognized by my SYSEX programs and the drivers are supposed to be working but it won't transmit data.  

I've resorted to using my M-Audio Triggerfinger with its one MIDI OUT.  This seems to work a little bit, but still has yet to finish an install.  I had one fault message during an attempt, but most of the time the LEDs go through their series and then the machine seems to be frozen.  Sometimes my PC freezes too.

This is a pain in the A*S and I really want to be able to save my samples.  Can somebody help me out with this?

How long should it take to upgrade?  A half hour seems to be the longest I've waited.



      

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Re: upgrading my OS is... difficult

2008-08-28 by bowlfullahheap2000

You need to connect the Midi Out of your machine to the TM-1 and the
Midi In to the in (it has arrows indicating the flow) TM-1.

Then get the C6 software and download the new os.

You can open the OS (a sysex MIDI file) in the C6 tool and hit 'load'.

For more information, you should consult the manuals for the C6 and
the machine you're using...

It's all in there.



--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Jeremy Hart <jchart01@...> wrote:
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> So, I've been trying to upgrade my OS for the last two hours.  I'm
not the most MIDI savvy, do I need an IN and OUT to upgrade my OS?  As
it is now the USB to MIDI adapter I ordered doesn't work, it's
recognized by my SYSEX programs and the drivers are supposed to be
working but it won't transmit data.  
> 
> I've resorted to using my M-Audio Triggerfinger with its one MIDI
OUT.  This seems to work a little bit, but still has yet to finish an
install.  I had one fault message during an attempt, but most of the
time the LEDs go through their series and then the machine seems to be
frozen.  Sometimes my PC freezes too.
> 
> This is a pain in the A*S and I really want to be able to save my
samples.  Can somebody help me out with this?
> 
> How long should it take to upgrade?  A half hour seems to be the
longest I've waited.
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Re: upgrading my OS is... difficult

2008-08-28 by bowlfullahheap2000

by the way- 

it looks like you've started this thread by replying to an old one-
please post new threads instead when you're creating a new topic.

thanks,
b

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>
> So, I've been trying to upgrade my OS for the last two hours.  I'm
not the most MIDI savvy, do I need an IN and OUT to upgrade my OS?  As
it is now the USB to MIDI adapter I ordered doesn't work, it's
recognized by my SYSEX programs and the drivers are supposed to be
working but it won't transmit data.  
> 
> I've resorted to using my M-Audio Triggerfinger with its one MIDI
OUT.  This seems to work a little bit, but still has yet to finish an
install.  I had one fault message during an attempt, but most of the
time the LEDs go through their series and then the machine seems to be
frozen.  Sometimes my PC freezes too.
> 
> This is a pain in the A*S and I really want to be able to save my
samples.  Can somebody help me out with this?
> 
> How long should it take to upgrade?  A half hour seems to be the
longest I've waited.
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Re: [elektron] Re: upgrading my OS is... difficult

2008-08-31 by Don't t(h)read on my tentacles, Earthling

Le 28 août 08 à 21:09, bowlfullahheap2000 a écrit :

> You need to connect the Midi Out of your machine to the TM-1 and the
> Midi In to the in (it has arrows indicating the flow) TM-1.
>
> Then get the C6 software and download the new os.
>
> You can open the OS (a sysex MIDI file) in the C6 tool and hit 'load'.
>
> For more information, you should consult the manuals for the C6 and
> the machine you're using...
>
> It's all in there.

I may add (in general, pick accordingly):

- decent MIDI interface and cable (obvious)
- NO clock transmitted by the MIDI interface when you upgrade (so some  
interface will NEVER work, like some creamware card for example) (if  
there's a clock on, it won't, never, ever upgrade)
- hassle free main power (bad mains don't go fine with Elektron stuff,  
most MD freeze) If the mains are dirty, use a UPS or a main filter of  
some sort.

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Re: [elektron] Re: upgrading my OS is... difficult

2008-08-31 by Jeremy Hart

sorry... i know i am not supposed to be using this thread within a thread.

but...

i figured it out... the cheap Chinese USB MIDI interface i was using was labeled backwards... i swapped the out for the in and it worked like a charm

^_^



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Le 28 ao�t 08 � 21:09, bowlfullahheap2000 a �crit :



> You need to connect the Midi Out of your machine to the TM-1 and the

> Midi In to the in (it has arrows indicating the flow) TM-1.

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> Then get the C6 software and download the new os.

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> You can open the OS (a sysex MIDI file) in the C6 tool and hit 'load'.

>

> For more information, you should consult the manuals for the C6 and

> the machine you're using...

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> It's all in there.



I may add (in general, pick accordingly) :



- decent MIDI interface and cable (obvious)

- NO clock transmitted by the MIDI interface when you upgrade (so some  

interface will NEVER work, like some creamware card for example) (if  

there's a clock on, it won't, never, ever upgrade)

- hassle free main power (bad mains don't go fine with Elektron stuff,  

most MD freeze) If the mains are dirty, use a UPS or a main filter of  

some sort.



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Re: [elektron] Re: upgrading my OS is... difficult

2008-09-01 by j l

On Aug 31, 2008, at 4:34 AM, Don't t(h)read on my tentacles,  
Earthling! wrote:

> - hassle free main power (bad mains don't go fine with Elektron stuff,
> most MD freeze) If the mains are dirty, use a UPS or a main filter of
> some sort.


I had suspected this-  Tell me, are there any posts on this  
particular issue?
I'm also wondering if the Elektron machines have the same problem  
with *their* main power...  ?

Jeff

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Re: [elektron] Re: upgrading my OS is... difficult

2008-09-06 by Don't t(h)read on my tentacles, Earthling

Le 1 sept. 08 à 18:45, j l a écrit :
> On Aug 31, 2008, at 4:34 AM, Don't t(h)read on my tentacles,
> Earthling! wrote:
>> - hassle free main power (bad mains don't go fine with Elektron  
>> stuff,
>> most MD freeze) If the mains are dirty, use a UPS or a main filter of
>> some sort.
>
> I had suspected this-  Tell me, are there any posts on this
> particular issue?
> I'm also wondering if the Elektron machines have the same problem
> with *their* main power...  ?

There are, about the MD a looong time ago ;) (some years)

I've never red one about the issue concerning the monomachine so it  
must be limited to the couple adapter/MD AFAIK. I don't know for the UW.

I've encountered the issue with mine:
- on normal use at home, freeze when not on a UPS
- at a friend's house, the city near mine (in the Paris suburbs), I  
was lending him my MD some time, no issue at all… ^^
- when I sold the MD, freeze when I demoed to the guy at his house,  
over side of Paris.
Seemingly, something in the mains wasn't to its taste.

It happened to others on the list, now, some power conditioning solves  
the problem. I used my UPS (a big professional APC model, maybe it's  
not useful to go that far… ;) I have not tried simpler means of  
conditioning.

Note that When I tried to upgrade the OS when I sold it, I encountered  
the MIDI clock on issue (the evil creamware MIDI out). The bad mains  
did not interfere with the upgrade once we switched to the MIDI  
interface of his USB keyboard.

Note that if you have dirty mains, switching to some power  
conditioning will help improve the audio quality!

 From the worst to best (and the most expensive, of course):
- "small" main filters (anecdotical)
- studio main power conditioner in small racks 1U (should be  
sufficient most of the time)
- off line UPS (go on line, it's way better)
- On line UPS (best are APC pro line -all are on line- or Merlin Gerin  
on line models, there's tons of them on ebay…)
- high end conditioning (win the lottery first…)

Off line UPS use the mains thru conversion without using the batteries  
in the middle or double conversion, on line UPS use double conversion  
Main/DC/sinus with batteries relaying if needed. On line UPC are the  
best way to ensure the mains are really clean, Off line let pass some  
crap thru and are slower at switching to the batteries if needed.

If you want to know more about UPS and how they work, there's some  
good explanations at APC if I remember well. :)

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Re: [elektron] Re: upgrading my OS is... difficult

2008-09-06 by j l

I have to confess- I *also* had a friend over a while back and I was  
using my MD connected to the mains w/out conditioning/filtration.  It  
crashed and in the process erased all of the pattern data; all of the  
instruments.

I'm sure that part of the problem is the casing, but you would think  
that the power supply would do more cleanup than it does...  Maybe not.

I have since only used it (not for this reason tho!) w/ a furman  
power conditioner and have never experienced a problem since.

It would really be helpful if Elektron would research this a bit more  
in order to develop their power supply further.  For now, we have a  
solution, but that also means that 9/10 times you'll have to bring a  
power conditioner to a show.

jl

On Sep 6, 2008, at 11:35 AM, Don't t(h)read on my tentacles,  
Earthling! wrote:
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>  that if you have dirty mains, switching to some power
> conditioning will help improve the audio quality!
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>  From the worst to best (and the most expensive, of course):
> - "small" main filters (anecdotical)
> - studio main power conditioner in small racks 1U (should be
> sufficient most of the time)
> - off line UPS (go on line, it's way better)
> - On line UPS (best are APC pro line -all are on line- or Merlin Gerin
> on line models, there's tons of them on ebay…)
> - high end conditioning (win the lottery first…)

Re: [elektron] Re: upgrading my OS is... difficult

2008-09-12 by Don't t(h)read on my tentacles, Earthling

Le 6 sept. 08 à 21:05, j l a écrit :

> I have to confess- I *also* had a friend over a while back and I was
> using my MD connected to the mains w/out conditioning/filtration.  It
> crashed and in the process erased all of the pattern data; all of the
> instruments.

lucky you! :o) mine was locking, a real christmas tree… ^^

> I'm sure that part of the problem is the casing, but you would think
> that the power supply would do more cleanup than it does...  Maybe  
> not.

no, there's no clean up as the MD adapter sends AC to the MD instead  
of DC which would clean a little. The adapter is non standard (9v 2.5  
A AC if I remember well) but stand as a standard for a common  
development board. I've never understood why Elektron did not clean up  
its design to use the usual adapters. Theirs is of high quality but  
the powering design a a flaw unfortunately.

> I have since only used it (not for this reason tho!) w/ a furman
> power conditioner and have never experienced a problem since.

that's the (good) little studio solution I thought of, a good rack to  
own especially if you move around for live stuff.

> It would really be helpful if Elektron would research this a bit more
> in order to develop their power supply further.  For now, we have a
> solution, but that also means that 9/10 times you'll have to bring a
> power conditioner to a show.

yup :-/
Now it was their first product and everyone makes mistakes (on the  
designs I worked on, we also did mistakes), it's a non lethal one once  
you know.

Denis H]
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